Re: Micro 15 /19 owners
I'd like to see it done. Kinda Jesse Cooper/Sea Bird 86/Micro Nav,
or, if you like, an AS29'ed AS19 with ballast salient keel for
increased blue water ability and coral protection, yet able to dry
out upright (on legs?).
How about for short tacking having a "non-dipping" dipping lug sail -
similar to the fast and weatherly New Orleans luggers described by H
I Chapelle?
Would PCB&F have to be commissioned now do you think (a group?), or
if enough asked might they draw it then?
Graeme
or, if you like, an AS29'ed AS19 with ballast salient keel for
increased blue water ability and coral protection, yet able to dry
out upright (on legs?).
How about for short tacking having a "non-dipping" dipping lug sail -
similar to the fast and weatherly New Orleans luggers described by H
I Chapelle?
Would PCB&F have to be commissioned now do you think (a group?), or
if enough asked might they draw it then?
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@...> wrote:
>....She said what limits the micro... If i was interested in a
>bigger trip i should consider a LM navigator and said the
>conversion would be easy enough to do and they could do the
>drawings but no one had asked.
On 9/2/06, ANDREW AIREY <andyairey@...> wrote:
for *actually* building every boat I intend to build is a bit low, but
I take a lot of swings!)
>No. Though I have plans and intend to build one. (My batting average
> Has anyone built a 'Colonel Hassler' yet.
> cheers
> Andy Airey
for *actually* building every boat I intend to build is a bit low, but
I take a lot of swings!)
Has anyone built a 'Colonel Hassler' yet.
cheers
Andy Airey
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Greg,
AFIK, there are no Micros or Long Micros in the Portland area. I
vaguely recall one perhaps in the Seattle area. If you contact
RiversWest, they can put you in touch with the builder of a Jochem's
Schooner. Another member built a Light Schooner.
If you're interested in small boats & boating, you might also want to
chick out the Western Oregon Messabout Society. Their Yahoo Group
is "MessaboutW". Good luck.
David Graybeal
Portland, OR
"Moderation in all things, especially moderation"
**************
AFIK, there are no Micros or Long Micros in the Portland area. I
vaguely recall one perhaps in the Seattle area. If you contact
RiversWest, they can put you in touch with the builder of a Jochem's
Schooner. Another member built a Light Schooner.
If you're interested in small boats & boating, you might also want to
chick out the Western Oregon Messabout Society. Their Yahoo Group
is "MessaboutW". Good luck.
David Graybeal
Portland, OR
"Moderation in all things, especially moderation"
**************
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, greg marston <freedomseeker25@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone in the Portland Ore. area sailing or building a Micro 15 or
Long Micro. I am thinking of building a trailer sailer that could be
used for extended blue water as well.
>
> Greg
>
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> That about sums it up. Bruce? If you live in CA I think sheYes, I am certainly the builder of the Micro Navigator she mentioned.
> specifically mentioned your boat as being the first navigator
> relatively true to plans almost completed that they know of. She
> said she liked the way it looked but never did like it on paper
The Micro Navigator works exactly as billed and there are *lots* of
good things about her.
Only a very few negative things.
1) Some extra work if you are trailer sailing, due to setup.
2) I do not miss giving up a cockpit, except only when I need to do
the quick reaction 'boat hook' maneuvering when you hit the dock,
etc...
3) Running a gauntlet of looky-lou's every time you take her out in
public. <grin>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, greg marston <freedomseeker25@...>
wrote:
be used for extended blue water as well.
Here is an old post that may be of interest re: bluewater sailing in
a Micro or Long Micro. I would think that a Long Micro Navigator
would be my preference compared to a lot of others that often go off-
shore, for example the West Wight Potter that sailed to Hawaii and
Alaska.
I would encourage you to enquire for an update from PCB&F re: a LM
Navigator. When I last enquired they suggested Colonel Hasler in
plywood but had no immediate plans to draw either it or a LM Nav.
Too busy with other things. This was a couple years ago.
The only things I would like to know re: a LM Nav is how to extend
the helm into the pilothouse and how large the sails would be.
Personally, the LM is about the biggest I would like to trailer -
but not that much different as the regular Micro.
Nels
Here is the old post:
First off let me say i had a hard time translating her accent but
basically here is what i know.
The navigator conversion was designed for a fellow that wanted to
singlehandedly circimnavigate the australian continent, not the
earth....this is where the lecture began. She carried on about
legal issues designing a boat and made sure i wasn't up to anything
too stupid.......very libertarian of her. She said it is a great
boat for shorter jaunts......specifically nova scotia and the
caribbean, but not the atlantic. She said what limits the micro the
most for larger crossings is the hull speed is so low you expose
yourself more. If i was interested in a bigger trip i should
consider a LM navigator and said the conversion would be easy enough
to do and they could do the drawings but no one had asked. She said
the key to safely cruising in a micro navigator is to rig it to spec
so you don't have to leave the safety of the pilot house, slow it
down(i'm guessing this means so it does'nt surf down wind in
following seas, as in dragging warps or a drogue not sure though i
just let her keep talking), the bottom needs to be SOLID and heavily
fastened to counter the pounding, have all the proper floatation
installed per plans and keep the hatches sealed, have a good
outboard and navigation equipment and lights. Specifically she
recommended a 5hp honda 4 stroke which has a small alternator, a
small solar panel on the cabin roof and LED navigation and interior
lighting powered by 2 6 volt batteries.
That about sums it up. Bruce? If you live in CA I think she
specifically mentioned your boat as being the first navigator
relatively true to plans almost completed that they know of. She
said she liked the way it looked but never did like it on paper
wrote:
>Long Micro. I am thinking of building a trailer sailer that could
> Anyone in the Portland Ore. area sailing or building a Micro 15 or
be used for extended blue water as well.
>Hi Greg,
> Greg
>
Here is an old post that may be of interest re: bluewater sailing in
a Micro or Long Micro. I would think that a Long Micro Navigator
would be my preference compared to a lot of others that often go off-
shore, for example the West Wight Potter that sailed to Hawaii and
Alaska.
I would encourage you to enquire for an update from PCB&F re: a LM
Navigator. When I last enquired they suggested Colonel Hasler in
plywood but had no immediate plans to draw either it or a LM Nav.
Too busy with other things. This was a couple years ago.
The only things I would like to know re: a LM Nav is how to extend
the helm into the pilothouse and how large the sails would be.
Personally, the LM is about the biggest I would like to trailer -
but not that much different as the regular Micro.
Nels
Here is the old post:
First off let me say i had a hard time translating her accent but
basically here is what i know.
The navigator conversion was designed for a fellow that wanted to
singlehandedly circimnavigate the australian continent, not the
earth....this is where the lecture began. She carried on about
legal issues designing a boat and made sure i wasn't up to anything
too stupid.......very libertarian of her. She said it is a great
boat for shorter jaunts......specifically nova scotia and the
caribbean, but not the atlantic. She said what limits the micro the
most for larger crossings is the hull speed is so low you expose
yourself more. If i was interested in a bigger trip i should
consider a LM navigator and said the conversion would be easy enough
to do and they could do the drawings but no one had asked. She said
the key to safely cruising in a micro navigator is to rig it to spec
so you don't have to leave the safety of the pilot house, slow it
down(i'm guessing this means so it does'nt surf down wind in
following seas, as in dragging warps or a drogue not sure though i
just let her keep talking), the bottom needs to be SOLID and heavily
fastened to counter the pounding, have all the proper floatation
installed per plans and keep the hatches sealed, have a good
outboard and navigation equipment and lights. Specifically she
recommended a 5hp honda 4 stroke which has a small alternator, a
small solar panel on the cabin roof and LED navigation and interior
lighting powered by 2 6 volt batteries.
That about sums it up. Bruce? If you live in CA I think she
specifically mentioned your boat as being the first navigator
relatively true to plans almost completed that they know of. She
said she liked the way it looked but never did like it on paper
On 9/1/06, greg marston <freedomseeker25@...> wrote:
mostly due to lack of cargo carrying capacity (and slow top hull speed
from short length).
The shortest blue water boat design they have is Col. HG Hassler, and
it relies heavily on a reverse osmotic watermaker to be feasible.
>PB&F are loud and clear that Micro is not a extended blue water boat,
> Anyone in the Portland Ore. area sailing or building a Micro 15 or Long Micro. I am thinking of building a trailer sailer that could be used for extended blue water as well.
>
> Greg
mostly due to lack of cargo carrying capacity (and slow top hull speed
from short length).
The shortest blue water boat design they have is Col. HG Hassler, and
it relies heavily on a reverse osmotic watermaker to be feasible.
Anyone in the Portland Ore. area sailing or building a Micro 15 or Long Micro. I am thinking of building a trailer sailer that could be used for extended blue water as well.
Greg
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