Re: [bolger] Boat Camping
The one thing I should have said was the panels were
getting full sun all day long. On a boat I would use
at least a 25 or 30 watt panel or better yet two of
them. One on each side of the cabintop.
On a sailboat one would be in shade most of the time.
Blessings Kristine
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getting full sun all day long. On a boat I would use
at least a 25 or 30 watt panel or better yet two of
them. One on each side of the cabintop.
On a sailboat one would be in shade most of the time.
Blessings Kristine
--- Philip Ridenauer <akula151@...> wrote:
> Thanks for the tips, Kristine.__________________________________________________
> Philip
>
> Kristine Bennett <femmpaws@...> wrote:
> I know it's getting late in the season for
> boat
> camping but I found something that helps at night.
>
> Harbor Freight Tools now has a 12V DC LED work
> light,
> item number 93944. It puts out more light then my
> double bulb RV lights in my RV and draws about 1/2
> an
> amp. The only other utility light I have used is the
> Davis Mega-Lites and they work for seeing where
> stuff
> is but they lack in light output for reading or
> doing
> something where you need to see what you are doing,
> at
> least for me. But they work great for low level
> light
> in the cockpit or cabin/tent. Or camp night light.
>
> Two 5 watt solar panels with a controller had no
> problem keeping up with the load put on the battery.
> This was for over a week this summer.
>
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Thanks for the tips, Kristine.
Philip
Kristine Bennett <femmpaws@...> wrote:
I know it's getting late in the season for boat
camping but I found something that helps at night.
Harbor Freight Tools now has a 12V DC LED work light,
item number 93944. It puts out more light then my
double bulb RV lights in my RV and draws about 1/2 an
amp. The only other utility light I have used is the
Davis Mega-Lites and they work for seeing where stuff
is but they lack in light output for reading or doing
something where you need to see what you are doing, at
least for me. But they work great for low level light
in the cockpit or cabin/tent. Or camp night light.
Two 5 watt solar panels with a controller had no
problem keeping up with the load put on the battery.
This was for over a week this summer.
The load was a car radio, Cel phone charger, Two-way
radio chargers, and two of the work lights that were
on most of the night.
The battery is an 24 Amp/hour lead acid and it's the
same size as the battery in your riding mower. Only it
is a deep cycle battery.
I'm sure This system would work well for most of the
small boats that are out there and don't have a charge
system on the outboard to keep the battery up.
I think the whole system is about 30 to 40 lbs.
Blessings
Kristine
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Philip
Kristine Bennett <femmpaws@...> wrote:
I know it's getting late in the season for boat
camping but I found something that helps at night.
Harbor Freight Tools now has a 12V DC LED work light,
item number 93944. It puts out more light then my
double bulb RV lights in my RV and draws about 1/2 an
amp. The only other utility light I have used is the
Davis Mega-Lites and they work for seeing where stuff
is but they lack in light output for reading or doing
something where you need to see what you are doing, at
least for me. But they work great for low level light
in the cockpit or cabin/tent. Or camp night light.
Two 5 watt solar panels with a controller had no
problem keeping up with the load put on the battery.
This was for over a week this summer.
The load was a car radio, Cel phone charger, Two-way
radio chargers, and two of the work lights that were
on most of the night.
The battery is an 24 Amp/hour lead acid and it's the
same size as the battery in your riding mower. Only it
is a deep cycle battery.
I'm sure This system would work well for most of the
small boats that are out there and don't have a charge
system on the outboard to keep the battery up.
I think the whole system is about 30 to 40 lbs.
Blessings
Kristine
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I know it's getting late in the season for boat
camping but I found something that helps at night.
Harbor Freight Tools now has a 12V DC LED work light,
item number 93944. It puts out more light then my
double bulb RV lights in my RV and draws about 1/2 an
amp. The only other utility light I have used is the
Davis Mega-Lites and they work for seeing where stuff
is but they lack in light output for reading or doing
something where you need to see what you are doing, at
least for me. But they work great for low level light
in the cockpit or cabin/tent. Or camp night light.
Two 5 watt solar panels with a controller had no
problem keeping up with the load put on the battery.
This was for over a week this summer.
The load was a car radio, Cel phone charger, Two-way
radio chargers, and two of the work lights that were
on most of the night.
The battery is an 24 Amp/hour lead acid and it's the
same size as the battery in your riding mower. Only it
is a deep cycle battery.
I'm sure This system would work well for most of the
small boats that are out there and don't have a charge
system on the outboard to keep the battery up.
I think the whole system is about 30 to 40 lbs.
Blessings
Kristine
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camping but I found something that helps at night.
Harbor Freight Tools now has a 12V DC LED work light,
item number 93944. It puts out more light then my
double bulb RV lights in my RV and draws about 1/2 an
amp. The only other utility light I have used is the
Davis Mega-Lites and they work for seeing where stuff
is but they lack in light output for reading or doing
something where you need to see what you are doing, at
least for me. But they work great for low level light
in the cockpit or cabin/tent. Or camp night light.
Two 5 watt solar panels with a controller had no
problem keeping up with the load put on the battery.
This was for over a week this summer.
The load was a car radio, Cel phone charger, Two-way
radio chargers, and two of the work lights that were
on most of the night.
The battery is an 24 Amp/hour lead acid and it's the
same size as the battery in your riding mower. Only it
is a deep cycle battery.
I'm sure This system would work well for most of the
small boats that are out there and don't have a charge
system on the outboard to keep the battery up.
I think the whole system is about 30 to 40 lbs.
Blessings
Kristine
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Hi Graeme,
I was being sarchastic refering to them as training wheels. I should
probably have used one of those anoying little smiley faces or
something like that. I would expect the boat would behave much
differently. I will find out how differently when I finish the
windsprint and try her out. I would use the pontoons almost
exclusively in a situation where excessive heeling wasn't an option
(for example, as mentioned previously, if I brought my mother out
sailing).
Personally I have no problem getting wet and plan to sail her as a
monohul mainly, reefing in the sail, or switching to a smaller sail,
in heavy winds.
Steven
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
I was being sarchastic refering to them as training wheels. I should
probably have used one of those anoying little smiley faces or
something like that. I would expect the boat would behave much
differently. I will find out how differently when I finish the
windsprint and try her out. I would use the pontoons almost
exclusively in a situation where excessive heeling wasn't an option
(for example, as mentioned previously, if I brought my mother out
sailing).
Personally I have no problem getting wet and plan to sail her as a
monohul mainly, reefing in the sail, or switching to a smaller sail,
in heavy winds.
Steven
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Steven DAntonio" <sdantonio93@>
> wrote:
> > And yes, their not boaty looking enough for a lot of folks. I
> > actually have jokingly refer to then in conversation as training
> > wheels for the boat.
>
>
> Hi Steven,
>
> I wouldn't call them training wheels (for a monohull) as the boat
> performs and has a very different feel to the monohull. I guess some
> initial undersanding of how to set the sail rig could be gained
> though. To sail a dinghy well requires the boat to perform like one,
> so the crew can develop the feel and appropriate response (quick) to
> any heeling. When configured as a trimaran with outrigged hulls
> (akas - floats - pontoons) of sufficient size and spacing that's
> what you have, a trimaran. It will get along about the same as the
> fast dinghy, will only heel so far, the crew can relax as long as
> they don't pile on too much sail. Great for taking along your
> mother, camping and cooking aboard, having space to sprawl, fishing
> while standing, and sipping a glass of wine while sailing along.
>
> I don't want to get into the circular mono- vs multi-hull argument;
> there's horses for courses, and you makes your choices. Hiking out
> and playing the sheets on a mono is fun, or flying a hull on a
> catamaran. On another day, laid-back, fast, level trimaran cruising
> is fun.
>
> When I can (PC trouble!) I'll drop a line to Ryerson and ask if it's
> ok to post some of his Windsprint-Tri "Loon" photos in one of the
> Bolger groups. He said it performed very well, and they still raced
> it as a mono in the annual boat festival SWBANS Windsprint races.
>
> Graeme
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Steven DAntonio" <sdantonio93@...>
wrote:
I wouldn't call them training wheels (for a monohull) as the boat
performs and has a very different feel to the monohull. I guess some
initial undersanding of how to set the sail rig could be gained
though. To sail a dinghy well requires the boat to perform like one,
so the crew can develop the feel and appropriate response (quick) to
any heeling. When configured as a trimaran with outrigged hulls
(akas - floats - pontoons) of sufficient size and spacing that's
what you have, a trimaran. It will get along about the same as the
fast dinghy, will only heel so far, the crew can relax as long as
they don't pile on too much sail. Great for taking along your
mother, camping and cooking aboard, having space to sprawl, fishing
while standing, and sipping a glass of wine while sailing along.
I don't want to get into the circular mono- vs multi-hull argument;
there's horses for courses, and you makes your choices. Hiking out
and playing the sheets on a mono is fun, or flying a hull on a
catamaran. On another day, laid-back, fast, level trimaran cruising
is fun.
When I can (PC trouble!) I'll drop a line to Ryerson and ask if it's
ok to post some of his Windsprint-Tri "Loon" photos in one of the
Bolger groups. He said it performed very well, and they still raced
it as a mono in the annual boat festival SWBANS Windsprint races.
Graeme
wrote:
> And yes, their not boaty looking enough for a lot of folks. IHi Steven,
> actually have jokingly refer to then in conversation as training
> wheels for the boat.
I wouldn't call them training wheels (for a monohull) as the boat
performs and has a very different feel to the monohull. I guess some
initial undersanding of how to set the sail rig could be gained
though. To sail a dinghy well requires the boat to perform like one,
so the crew can develop the feel and appropriate response (quick) to
any heeling. When configured as a trimaran with outrigged hulls
(akas - floats - pontoons) of sufficient size and spacing that's
what you have, a trimaran. It will get along about the same as the
fast dinghy, will only heel so far, the crew can relax as long as
they don't pile on too much sail. Great for taking along your
mother, camping and cooking aboard, having space to sprawl, fishing
while standing, and sipping a glass of wine while sailing along.
I don't want to get into the circular mono- vs multi-hull argument;
there's horses for courses, and you makes your choices. Hiking out
and playing the sheets on a mono is fun, or flying a hull on a
catamaran. On another day, laid-back, fast, level trimaran cruising
is fun.
When I can (PC trouble!) I'll drop a line to Ryerson and ask if it's
ok to post some of his Windsprint-Tri "Loon" photos in one of the
Bolger groups. He said it performed very well, and they still raced
it as a mono in the annual boat festival SWBANS Windsprint races.
Graeme
I'm currently reading through 2 of PCB's books (Boats with an open
mind and the folding schooner book)and he has several designes where
the boat can be made as a single hull or optional 3 hull (trimaran)
for increased stablity.
My first PCB boat, which I haven't completed yet (actually I'm still
in the asking a lot of questions stage) will be a windsprint and I
will also make 2 additional pontoons to attach for increased
stability. I can see they would be useful if I want to fish from the
boat (standing up to cast and stuff like that) or if I want to bring
my mother out for a day of sailing.
And yes, their not boaty looking enough for a lot of folks. I
actually have jokingly refer to then in conversation as training
wheels for the boat.
Steven
mind and the folding schooner book)and he has several designes where
the boat can be made as a single hull or optional 3 hull (trimaran)
for increased stablity.
My first PCB boat, which I haven't completed yet (actually I'm still
in the asking a lot of questions stage) will be a windsprint and I
will also make 2 additional pontoons to attach for increased
stability. I can see they would be useful if I want to fish from the
boat (standing up to cast and stuff like that) or if I want to bring
my mother out for a day of sailing.
And yes, their not boaty looking enough for a lot of folks. I
actually have jokingly refer to then in conversation as training
wheels for the boat.
Steven
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Waldo F. Odonahue" <waldofo@...> wrote:
>
> Any reason why simple pontoons (aluminum or other material) are not
used more often - rather than relying on a "standard" hull to cope
with the fact that a boat has to move through water? Although
Catamarans have proven themselves (some say) - is this all about
pontoons not being "boaty looking enough"?
Any reason why simple pontoons (aluminum or other material) are not used more often - rather than relying on a "standard" hull to cope with the fact that a boat has to move through water? Although Catamarans have proven themselves (some say) - is this all about pontoons not being "boaty looking enough"?
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--- "Mike" <mikeboatman@...> wrote:
I included e.g. a "displacement hull speed" calculation.
However, as long as a program is still in active development, this is
an endless game, since each time there is a new version, I had to do
the same again.
First, I am not sure whether what you need is really a new feature, or
it is there already, but you couldn't figure out how to do it.
Second, if it is really a new feature, I suggest that you send your
proposal to Martijn, the developer. Martin is very open to suggestions
and implements them as it is possible and he has time. A major new
release should be out soon....
HTH,
Stefan
> Freeship is, from reading the licence, changable.I compiled FREE!ship a few times, some versions ago.
> Any programers might like to have a go.
I included e.g. a "displacement hull speed" calculation.
However, as long as a program is still in active development, this is
an endless game, since each time there is a new version, I had to do
the same again.
First, I am not sure whether what you need is really a new feature, or
it is there already, but you couldn't figure out how to do it.
Second, if it is really a new feature, I suggest that you send your
proposal to Martijn, the developer. Martin is very open to suggestions
and implements them as it is possible and he has time. A major new
release should be out soon....
HTH,
Stefan
Thanks for replies to my posting re software.
I have tried Freeship, Plyboats and Unfold, but I have gone back to hulls. The latter two seem to me to be a bit old/crude. Freeship is good, but I dont understand why, if I enter Bill Garden's offsets, I then have to fair the boat.
I feel Freeship could do with an offsets table like hulls but with more bulkheads. Also, the waterline, diagonals should be catered for. Perhaps we should suggest to Woodenboat that they hold a design software competition. Freeship is, from reading the licence, changable. Any programers might like to have a go.
Mike
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I have tried Freeship, Plyboats and Unfold, but I have gone back to hulls. The latter two seem to me to be a bit old/crude. Freeship is good, but I dont understand why, if I enter Bill Garden's offsets, I then have to fair the boat.
I feel Freeship could do with an offsets table like hulls but with more bulkheads. Also, the waterline, diagonals should be catered for. Perhaps we should suggest to Woodenboat that they hold a design software competition. Freeship is, from reading the licence, changable. Any programers might like to have a go.
Mike
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