Re: Swinging leeboards for Surf?
Thanks to you guys who responded,
I'll do some research and make the Mickalak boards eventually. I
found a picture on the net of another Surf with swinging boards so
obviusly it can be done. My boat has the Gypsy pivoting rudder,
held down by a large wing nut and washers, which wasn't sufficient
to hold it down in the windy conditions the other day - my sailing
buddy is casting in some lead at the moment. I don't like modifying
Phils designs but I don't think he'd mind knowing that my sailing
area is fairly shallow.
By the way, after we swamped (forgot to mention that bit), she
still sat high in the water and we just kept on sailing, and not a
lot slower than when empty - when heeled the water comes in the
front and runs out the back - amazing really!
Another modification of sorts I've done is oar storage, which I
like to have with me at all times. It was never satisfactory to
carry them inside the boat when sailing with the watertight hatches
and framework getting in the way - I bought two piece oars and strap
the 4 pieces across the foward compartment with octopus straps
hooked onto cleats screwed to the gunwales. Looks a bit daggy but
its nice to have them with me and out of the way.
Col
Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Tribulato" <scsbmsjoe@...> wrote:
I'll do some research and make the Mickalak boards eventually. I
found a picture on the net of another Surf with swinging boards so
obviusly it can be done. My boat has the Gypsy pivoting rudder,
held down by a large wing nut and washers, which wasn't sufficient
to hold it down in the windy conditions the other day - my sailing
buddy is casting in some lead at the moment. I don't like modifying
Phils designs but I don't think he'd mind knowing that my sailing
area is fairly shallow.
By the way, after we swamped (forgot to mention that bit), she
still sat high in the water and we just kept on sailing, and not a
lot slower than when empty - when heeled the water comes in the
front and runs out the back - amazing really!
Another modification of sorts I've done is oar storage, which I
like to have with me at all times. It was never satisfactory to
carry them inside the boat when sailing with the watertight hatches
and framework getting in the way - I bought two piece oars and strap
the 4 pieces across the foward compartment with octopus straps
hooked onto cleats screwed to the gunwales. Looks a bit daggy but
its nice to have them with me and out of the way.
Col
Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Tribulato" <scsbmsjoe@...> wrote:
>just
> I put a pivoting leeboard on a Surf I built in 1998 and it worked
> fine. I think it is a significant improvement over the tounged oneI
> built for a Teal, which promptly broke the first time it hit a hardto
> bottom. I recomend the change. Jim Michalak's design is worth your
> attention. On mine I used a 3/8 carriage bolt an old doorknob and
> adjust the tension on the pivot.
>
> Joe T
>
I put a pivoting leeboard on a Surf I built in 1998 and it worked just
fine. I think it is a significant improvement over the tounged one I
built for a Teal, which promptly broke the first time it hit a hard
bottom. I recomend the change. Jim Michalak's design is worth your
attention. On mine I used a 3/8 carriage bolt an old doorknob and to
adjust the tension on the pivot.
Joe T
fine. I think it is a significant improvement over the tounged one I
built for a Teal, which promptly broke the first time it hit a hard
bottom. I recomend the change. Jim Michalak's design is worth your
attention. On mine I used a 3/8 carriage bolt an old doorknob and to
adjust the tension on the pivot.
Joe T
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "martha2001au" <cmoone11@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> After choosing valour(or stupidity) over discretion and sailing in 35
> knot winds in Surf yesterday I had my first experience of snapping one
> of the tongues on my fixed daggerboard(?) when I hit a shoal. Its not
> a lot of trouble to fix up, but is it feasible to put a lead weighted
> swinging board on each side? I can't remember any of Phils other
> small boats that has them, maybe because they need a moresolid
> attachment point?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Col
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "chrisbfeller" <chrisbfeller@...> wrote:
I queried almost this very same thing with Dynamite Payson several
years ago and he saw no problem in going that route with a Surf.
I asked about using two actually and he replied that if I wanted to do
the extra work to go for it:-)
Never did build a Surf though and still have the plans... I think it
is a great boat.
Nels
>I would agree with Chris that the Michilak board is the way to go.
> There are many examples of swinging lee boards on Jim Michalak's
> designs. He has a very nice version. It is not weighted and actually
> you only need one. Link for his plans below
>
>http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/michalak.htm
>
> Or you could get his book which has multiple plans as well as detailed
> information on how to build the boats including detail on the lee board.
>
>http://www.duckworksbbs.com/media/books/michalak/index.htm
>
> Chris Feller
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "martha2001au" <cmoone11@> wrote:
> >
> >
I queried almost this very same thing with Dynamite Payson several
years ago and he saw no problem in going that route with a Surf.
I asked about using two actually and he replied that if I wanted to do
the extra work to go for it:-)
Never did build a Surf though and still have the plans... I think it
is a great boat.
Nels
There are many examples of swinging lee boards on Jim Michalak's
designs. He has a very nice version. It is not weighted and actually
you only need one. Link for his plans below
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/michalak.htm
Or you could get his book which has multiple plans as well as detailed
information on how to build the boats including detail on the lee board.
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/media/books/michalak/index.htm
Chris Feller
designs. He has a very nice version. It is not weighted and actually
you only need one. Link for his plans below
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/michalak.htm
Or you could get his book which has multiple plans as well as detailed
information on how to build the boats including detail on the lee board.
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/media/books/michalak/index.htm
Chris Feller
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "martha2001au" <cmoone11@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> After choosing valour(or stupidity) over discretion and sailing in 35
> knot winds in Surf yesterday I had my first experience of snapping one
> of the tongues on my fixed daggerboard(?) when I hit a shoal. Its not
> a lot of trouble to fix up, but is it feasible to put a lead weighted
> swinging board on each side? I can't remember any of Phils other
> small boats that has them, maybe because they need a moresolid
> attachment point?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Col
>
After choosing valour(or stupidity) over discretion and sailing in 35
knot winds in Surf yesterday I had my first experience of snapping one
of the tongues on my fixed daggerboard(?) when I hit a shoal. Its not
a lot of trouble to fix up, but is it feasible to put a lead weighted
swinging board on each side? I can't remember any of Phils other
small boats that has them, maybe because they need a moresolid
attachment point?
Thanks,
Col
knot winds in Surf yesterday I had my first experience of snapping one
of the tongues on my fixed daggerboard(?) when I hit a shoal. Its not
a lot of trouble to fix up, but is it feasible to put a lead weighted
swinging board on each side? I can't remember any of Phils other
small boats that has them, maybe because they need a moresolid
attachment point?
Thanks,
Col