Re: Tour of Windermere PCB and friends
The more I read of this posting, I have become convinced that Sir Peter
is actually a reincarnation of Joseph Conrad and is preceding with
Marlow's tale of his visit with the mysterious Mr. Kurtz, only with a
much different outcome.
Peter - I hope you take the time to write a short novella about Messing
About in Boats, it would be a pleasure to read more of your prose
addressed to this group of Bolger nuts.
David Jost...
who was wishing his Birdwatcher II would start to take shape, only time
needed now.
is actually a reincarnation of Joseph Conrad and is preceding with
Marlow's tale of his visit with the mysterious Mr. Kurtz, only with a
much different outcome.
Peter - I hope you take the time to write a short novella about Messing
About in Boats, it would be a pleasure to read more of your prose
addressed to this group of Bolger nuts.
David Jost...
who was wishing his Birdwatcher II would start to take shape, only time
needed now.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
Illuminating more likely as it shed some light on the nastier side
of the "design business" which,at that time,showed a designer of
repute literally peddling a Bolger design under another name.
Six years later, and they talked precisely about this case during
supper aboard the AS-39 ANEMONE. To say it pissed them off would be
one big understatment by me! :-)
This is/was but the tip of the iceberg in their discovering the
breadth of the problem/difficulties in protecting ones
property,intellectual or otherwise,from bold thieves. There was even
a guy up here,near Montreal, that was building Bolger CARTOPPERs,
calling them his own design and selling them at boat-shows and
his "boat-shop". At one time he even tried to sell the plans but the
obvious liquid-paper white outs visible on the photo-copies along
with the "english" script on the plans sorta gave him away(he is
French,as were his customers,no one could explain why some things
were in English!)
At any rate, I do not envy their difficulties in this area.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
wrote:
> "...Jeez, they are really out there!! One of these days we'll haveHi Graeme,
> it all together and will offer the chronological order of the work
> and its details.
>
> No, it's unlikely that Mr. Tanton's brokerage will get a
> freeby catalogue. On the other hand, one could really get to work
> with all sorts of improvements...
>
> Incidentally, only about half of our work has ever been published.
>
> There will be much time lost missing appointments with boat-buyers
> perusing Bolger's stuff....." PCB (SA more like) message #1627,
> January 12, 2000
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/message/1627
>
> Indicative. Soon the blow-ups, then the silences.
Illuminating more likely as it shed some light on the nastier side
of the "design business" which,at that time,showed a designer of
repute literally peddling a Bolger design under another name.
Six years later, and they talked precisely about this case during
supper aboard the AS-39 ANEMONE. To say it pissed them off would be
one big understatment by me! :-)
This is/was but the tip of the iceberg in their discovering the
breadth of the problem/difficulties in protecting ones
property,intellectual or otherwise,from bold thieves. There was even
a guy up here,near Montreal, that was building Bolger CARTOPPERs,
calling them his own design and selling them at boat-shows and
his "boat-shop". At one time he even tried to sell the plans but the
obvious liquid-paper white outs visible on the photo-copies along
with the "english" script on the plans sorta gave him away(he is
French,as were his customers,no one could explain why some things
were in English!)
At any rate, I do not envy their difficulties in this area.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Kristine Bennett <femmpaws@...> wrote:
The hull off-sets are found on the plans.Panel expansions(layout)
are also found on the plans. Want the same boat but smaller? Play
designer and reduce accordingly. Just don't blame Bolger if it don't
work as expected :-)
But how do you get
a) it doesn't get any "simpler" then the postal system(snailmail)
b)when you purchase plans,they ALWAYS come by mail
c) unless you have a signed contract to build this boat for a
particular customer by a very soon deadline or else,then several
days worth of waiting for your mailbox to be stuffed with a blue
tube,is,to be frank,timely.
Just think how many months(years) you will spend building it,if you
do buy the plans :-)
Happy Dreams!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
> My sweetie and I looked at the InletRunner and bothHi Kristine,
> like the hull shape and would think about building a
> boat based on that hull in about 18 feet. But how does
> one get the panal layout for the hull? Where do you
> find the hull offsets?
The hull off-sets are found on the plans.Panel expansions(layout)
are also found on the plans. Want the same boat but smaller? Play
designer and reduce accordingly. Just don't blame Bolger if it don't
work as expected :-)
But how do you get
> at the info needed other the snalemail or Fax? SeeingSomething to consider Kristine;
> how I don't have a fax I'm left with snalemail.
>
> There is so much Bolger info but how does one get
> access to it in a simple and timely manor?
a) it doesn't get any "simpler" then the postal system(snailmail)
b)when you purchase plans,they ALWAYS come by mail
c) unless you have a signed contract to build this boat for a
particular customer by a very soon deadline or else,then several
days worth of waiting for your mailbox to be stuffed with a blue
tube,is,to be frank,timely.
Just think how many months(years) you will spend building it,if you
do buy the plans :-)
Happy Dreams!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@...> wrote:
you might be able to supply us with a few
> more tidbits of what we might look forward to in the not too
distant
> future from our two heroes?
>
> Particularly these items:
>
> The current status of the I60?
Hi Nels,
There was no talk,at least while I was there,about specific
designs and their status.However, I did get the distinct impression
that their "big customer" certainly chewed up alot of their time and
that they were very eager to get crackin' on a considerable back-log
of commissions. Running side by side with this,they appeared rather
obsessed with attempts at offering cost effective fishing boats to
the commercial fishing fleet.Apparently, the commercial fisherman is
up against a rock and a hard place in having to deal with all sorts
of regulations(relative to boat size),ever increasing costs in
fuel,skyrocketing prices in replacement vessels,dwindling fish
stocks and the need to make a living. They have good(better),sound
and affordable designs to offer the industry and have been
attempting,through conferences etc.,to perhaps changes some of the
government regulations and industry dogma. In fact,later this month
Susanne is going out to the West coast for one of these sessions.
> Is there the possiblity of any more writings being made available
to
> the general public boat nut? I heard at one point a lot may be on
> archive to be published later on. I am wondering if I will still be
> alive to savour it? Or do we have to continue to scratch and dig
and
> speculate on how we can gain access to his historic fund of
information?
Keep your pick-axe and shovel handy.....just the volume of back-
logged commissions alone,not to mention constant "new" queries
pretty much prevents any serious work in the direction you suggest
above.Afterall,design work keeps food on the table while the not
inconsiderable task of gathering up reams of archived material and
making it presentable to the "general public boating nut" does not.
This is not to say it will never be done.They may suddenly decide to
do just that and surprise us all but that is not the impression I
recieved.
> I notice a whole new generation of folks are interested in learning
> more about his designs and phil-losophy but don't know where to
find
> out a whole lot. Just clues here and there and scattered all over
the
> place. Frustrating really in my opinion.
I may be wrong here Nels, but I suspect the "frustration" you sense
and I share too, is perhaps felt more by members of the congregation
then any neophyte exploring the mad,mad world of amateur buildable
boats. I say this in reflection of my own innocent beginings(baby-
steps). Happily I stumbled along in the pre-internet world just glad
to come across anything that was pointy in the front and square in
the back. The classified sections of boating magazines offered some
solace and a hint as to what may be out there. However, things took
a really evil turn very shortly after buying SMALL BOATS in the
early '70s. I did not fully appreciate at that time how very close I
was to the precipice.Only after buying DIFFERENT BOATS was I to
discover,too late, the gravity of it all. I was now a Bolger junky!
At first it was only friends and school mates that began to be
ignored but in amazingly short order, siblings,relatives....my
entire family!....all played second fiddle to Bolger! I soon found
myself seeking others like myself. Looking desperately into their
eyes I would gasp" Do you like small wooden boats?" or worse yet,"Do
you know designs by Bolger?" Most would hastily turn away, some
would scream and run.
It was a lonely existance.........and I was like a heroin freak with
Bolger my heroin and Payson my methadone.Fortunately other books
from Bolger came down the pipe to ease the pain that knows no name.
After years worth of vain attempts at pickling my own brain, I can
now safely say that I'm over it. But God knows it wouldn't take much
to send me spiraling out of control again :-)
Now tell me, is this the sort of life you would wish to compel
others to enjoin? Would you want to carry this heavy burden to the
grave? Far better to let them explore and discover the wonders out
there of their own free will,says I, and should they ever become
hooked on Bolger......well......God bless their youthful hearts :-D
> Did he comment at all regarding his band of Bolgeristas at this
> location or does he just mainly ignore our situation?
Nope.Not to my knowledge.They are rather busy,afterall :-)
> Are they at some point considering making their information any
more
> accessible or is the fax machine the only form of contacting them
for
> the foreseeable future?
I believe the fax stays.
No catalogue of designs or website in the offing?
Don't know.
> Did they mention Jim Michalak at all and consider his efforts to
keep
> small simple designs available as filling the gap they have more or
> less abandoned?
Nope.
> Personally I feel they have been distanting themselves from folks
who
> believe small and simple is a most viable way for a lot of us to
think
> and build.
It is not so much a distancing but more simply depletion. As I
mentioned in a previous posting, He believes he has no more small
boats in Him.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
>One doesn't. He has 7 books out (not sure the novel counts for out
> There is so much Bolger info but how does one get
> access to it in a simple and timely manor?
>
> Blessings all
> Kristine
>
> >
purposes) and long associations with at least 3 magazines, as you
know. It takes some doing to scour the whole field. A lot of people
have taken to designing their own stuff since it is just about as
likely to work, and can be tailored to specific needs. The thing about
boats is that they really aren't timely. They take quite a bit of time
to build and maintain, not very virtual at all.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@...> wrote:
in accord with a PCB letter to the editor published in AABB #38 in
part:
"We have a complete and fairly orderly archive of five
hundred plus designs in chronology and detail (many of the 1950's
designs are lost). The archive is not useful to anyone but us until
we finish preparing it with comments and study plans, which we are
doing as fast as we can, which is not very fast on account of
interesting new designs and money to be made and the maddening
distractions like the SNAME licenseing plot." Message #17458
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/message/17458?threaded=1
Read the whole thread, and enjoy some great writing. (Onya Porky.)
Graeme
>..Is there the possiblity of any more writings being made availableAnother message worth noting with a transcribed PCB letter that is
>to the general public boat nut? Did he comment at all regarding his
>band of Bolgeristas at this location or does he just mainly ignore
>our situation?..
>
>..Are they at some point considering making their information any
>more accessible or is the fax machine the only form of contacting
>them for the foreseeable future? That that works best for them in
>their opinion? No catalogue of designs or website in the offing?..
in accord with a PCB letter to the editor published in AABB #38 in
part:
"We have a complete and fairly orderly archive of five
hundred plus designs in chronology and detail (many of the 1950's
designs are lost). The archive is not useful to anyone but us until
we finish preparing it with comments and study plans, which we are
doing as fast as we can, which is not very fast on account of
interesting new designs and money to be made and the maddening
distractions like the SNAME licenseing plot." Message #17458
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/message/17458?threaded=1
Read the whole thread, and enjoy some great writing. (Onya Porky.)
Graeme
"...Jeez, they are really out there!! One of these days we'll have
it all together and will offer the chronological order of the work
and its details.
No, it's unlikely that Mr. Tanton's brokerage will get a
freeby catalogue. On the other hand, one could really get to work
with all sorts of improvements...
Incidentally, only about half of our work has ever been published.
There will be much time lost missing appointments with boat-buyers
perusing Bolger's stuff....." PCB (SA more like) message #1627,
January 12, 2000
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/message/1627
Indicative. Soon the blow-ups, then the silences.
Graeme
it all together and will offer the chronological order of the work
and its details.
No, it's unlikely that Mr. Tanton's brokerage will get a
freeby catalogue. On the other hand, one could really get to work
with all sorts of improvements...
Incidentally, only about half of our work has ever been published.
There will be much time lost missing appointments with boat-buyers
perusing Bolger's stuff....." PCB (SA more like) message #1627,
January 12, 2000
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/message/1627
Indicative. Soon the blow-ups, then the silences.
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@...> wrote:
> Is there the possiblity of any more writings being made available
>to the general public boat nut? Or do we have to continue to
>scratch and dig and speculate on how we can gain access to his
>historic fund of information?
> I notice a whole new generation of folks are interested in learning
> more about his designs and phil-losophy but don't know where to
>find out a whole lot. Just clues here and there and scattered all
>over the place. Frustrating really in my opinion.Did he comment at
>all regarding his band of Bolgeristas at this location or does he
>just mainly ignore our situation?
>Are they at some point considering making their information any
>more accessible or is the fax machine the only form of contacting
>them for the foreseeable future? That that works best for them in
>their opinion? No catalogue of designs or website in the offing?
Nels does bring up a good point PCB&Fs have some great
stuff out there but it's hard to find it! We all know
PCB is getting up in the years and someday will not be
with us any longer. If it was not for Boats with a
Open Mind I would be clueless as to who he is! Or the
boats he has designed!
Yes he does do short blurps here and there. But how
does one find all the little tid bits that he has come
up with over the many long years?
My sweetie and I looked at the InletRunner and both
like the hull shape and would think about building a
boat based on that hull in about 18 feet. But how does
one get the panal layout for the hull? Where do you
find the hull offsets?
The bow of the IR looks to me to be a good bow for a
simple powercat. Yes the deadrise is going to make a
bit of wake but it looks to be a simple hullshape to
make. I showed it to a friend and he's thinking of
trying it for some aircraft flotes! But how do you get
at the info needed other the snalemail or Fax? Seeing
how I don't have a fax I'm left with snalemail.
There is so much Bolger info but how does one get
access to it in a simple and timely manor?
Blessings all
Kristine
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stuff out there but it's hard to find it! We all know
PCB is getting up in the years and someday will not be
with us any longer. If it was not for Boats with a
Open Mind I would be clueless as to who he is! Or the
boats he has designed!
Yes he does do short blurps here and there. But how
does one find all the little tid bits that he has come
up with over the many long years?
My sweetie and I looked at the InletRunner and both
like the hull shape and would think about building a
boat based on that hull in about 18 feet. But how does
one get the panal layout for the hull? Where do you
find the hull offsets?
The bow of the IR looks to me to be a good bow for a
simple powercat. Yes the deadrise is going to make a
bit of wake but it looks to be a simple hullshape to
make. I showed it to a friend and he's thinking of
trying it for some aircraft flotes! But how do you get
at the info needed other the snalemail or Fax? Seeing
how I don't have a fax I'm left with snalemail.
There is so much Bolger info but how does one get
access to it in a simple and timely manor?
Blessings all
Kristine
>____________________________________________________________________________________
> Hi Peter,
>
> Just wondering if - after having some time to
> reflect and perhaps
> recall some of the details - you might be able to
> supply us with a few
> more tidbits of what we might look forward to in the
> not too distant
> future from our two heroes?
>
> Particularly these items:
>
> The current status of the I60?
>
> Is there the possiblity of any more writings being
> made available to
> the general public boat nut? I heard at one point a
> lot may be on
> archive to be published later on. I am wondering if
> I will still be
> alive to savour it? Or do we have to continue to
> scratch and dig and
> speculate on how we can gain access to his historic
> fund of information?
>
> I notice a whole new generation of folks are
> interested in learning
> more about his designs and phil-losophy but don't
> know where to find
> out a whole lot. Just clues here and there and
> scattered all over the
> place. Frustrating really in my opinion.
>
> Did he comment at all regarding his band of
> Bolgeristas at this
> location or does he just mainly ignore our
> situation?
>
> Are they at some point considering making their
> information any more
> accessible or is the fax machine the only form of
> contacting them for
> the foreseeable future? That that works best for
> them in their
> opinion? No catalogue of designs or website in the
> offing?
>
> Did they mention Jim Michalak at all and consider
> his efforts to keep
> small simple designs available as filling the gap
> they have more or
> less abandoned?
>
> Personally I feel they have been distanting
> themselves from folks who
> believe small and simple is a most viable way for a
> lot of us to think
> and build.
>
> Nels
>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <peterlenihan@...> wrote:
Just wondering if - after having some time to reflect and perhaps
recall some of the details - you might be able to supply us with a few
more tidbits of what we might look forward to in the not too distant
future from our two heroes?
Particularly these items:
The current status of the I60?
Is there the possiblity of any more writings being made available to
the general public boat nut? I heard at one point a lot may be on
archive to be published later on. I am wondering if I will still be
alive to savour it? Or do we have to continue to scratch and dig and
speculate on how we can gain access to his historic fund of information?
I notice a whole new generation of folks are interested in learning
more about his designs and phil-losophy but don't know where to find
out a whole lot. Just clues here and there and scattered all over the
place. Frustrating really in my opinion.
Did he comment at all regarding his band of Bolgeristas at this
location or does he just mainly ignore our situation?
Are they at some point considering making their information any more
accessible or is the fax machine the only form of contacting them for
the foreseeable future? That that works best for them in their
opinion? No catalogue of designs or website in the offing?
Did they mention Jim Michalak at all and consider his efforts to keep
small simple designs available as filling the gap they have more or
less abandoned?
Personally I feel they have been distanting themselves from folks who
believe small and simple is a most viable way for a lot of us to think
and build.
Nels
> I will say that none of his pronouncements were of earthHi Peter,
> shattering importance per say as he is remarkably low-profile and
> somewhat reserved.Two general comments that come readily to mind
> are: PCB&Fs sincere apologees to their many clients who have been
> ever so patient waiting for their own design briefs to be
> completed.
> The next comment also surprised me,just for its frankness, our Hero
> figures he has exhausted his small boat designs after exploring
> every angle.Who woulda thought?!
Just wondering if - after having some time to reflect and perhaps
recall some of the details - you might be able to supply us with a few
more tidbits of what we might look forward to in the not too distant
future from our two heroes?
Particularly these items:
The current status of the I60?
Is there the possiblity of any more writings being made available to
the general public boat nut? I heard at one point a lot may be on
archive to be published later on. I am wondering if I will still be
alive to savour it? Or do we have to continue to scratch and dig and
speculate on how we can gain access to his historic fund of information?
I notice a whole new generation of folks are interested in learning
more about his designs and phil-losophy but don't know where to find
out a whole lot. Just clues here and there and scattered all over the
place. Frustrating really in my opinion.
Did he comment at all regarding his band of Bolgeristas at this
location or does he just mainly ignore our situation?
Are they at some point considering making their information any more
accessible or is the fax machine the only form of contacting them for
the foreseeable future? That that works best for them in their
opinion? No catalogue of designs or website in the offing?
Did they mention Jim Michalak at all and consider his efforts to keep
small simple designs available as filling the gap they have more or
less abandoned?
Personally I feel they have been distanting themselves from folks who
believe small and simple is a most viable way for a lot of us to think
and build.
Nels
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dnjost" <davidjost@...> wrote:
No cut it out before speculation runs rampant!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,blissfully concious despite rumours to the
contrary........
>You're gettin' warm Sir David,very warm :-)
> Could this be the instant aircraft carrier, or perhaps a Birdwatcher
> that is all Lexan 1" thick!!! We could dub this the Stealth Assault
> Craft (SAC for short). Heck, you could even rig one for sail and use
> servos to control the rudder and sails for a completely crewless
> surveilance craft.
No cut it out before speculation runs rampant!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,blissfully concious despite rumours to the
contrary........
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@...> wrote:
Oh,and the only medication I'm on,which I NEVER miss, comes in
glorious sensuous dark bottles with natural corks......yumyum!
Sincerely,
Peter,the human pickle, Lenihan..........
>> Peter purports to work in an insane asylum but actually he just getsWhaddya mean "day passes"?! They even let me have the key too!! :-D
> out occasionally on day passes. So we try to humour him and go along
> with his level of "sanity".
>
> (He is totally harmless - so long as he doesn't miss his meds.)
Oh,and the only medication I'm on,which I NEVER miss, comes in
glorious sensuous dark bottles with natural corks......yumyum!
Sincerely,
Peter,the human pickle, Lenihan..........
On 11/5/06, ira einsteen <einsteen@...> wrote:
> Enough with the Bolger as God talk. He's a boat designer....with more than his share of genius!
Ira seeing how I'm pagan, I take some of the things
said with a grain of salt. As for Phil Bolger being a
god, no I don't think so, BUT he is a Sage! He is
insightful and well learned and not from the testbook!
But he does have that too.
Like I have said before, it would be an enjoyable
evening to set and talk with him about most anything.
One should not take things said to heart to much.
Blessings All
Krissie
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said with a grain of salt. As for Phil Bolger being a
god, no I don't think so, BUT he is a Sage! He is
insightful and well learned and not from the testbook!
But he does have that too.
Like I have said before, it would be an enjoyable
evening to set and talk with him about most anything.
One should not take things said to heart to much.
Blessings All
Krissie
--- ira einsteen <einsteen@...> wrote:
> Enough with the Bolger as God talk. He's a boat____________________________________________________________________________________
> designer. Amongst the best and most innovative, for
> sure, but he's a boat designer! I don't know him,
> but from what I can glean from his writings he's a
> thoughtful, decent, intelligent person that must
> view the tenor of some of these posts as sickening.
> Please everyone; we all love his designs, but calm
> down!
>
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Could this be the instant aircraft carrier, or perhaps a Birdwatcher
that is all Lexan 1" thick!!! We could dub this the Stealth Assault
Craft (SAC for short). Heck, you could even rig one for sail and use
servos to control the rudder and sails for a completely crewless
surveilance craft.
Imagine the possibilities of being able to sneak up the shallows in an
almost bullet proof, ultra shallow draft sharpie. UNDER OARS!
Shades of Washington crossing the Delaware, I can almost see George W.
standing up in the middle grasping an American flag as his troops are
hunkered down below waiting to surprise the enemy with an amphibious
assault.
David Jost
that is all Lexan 1" thick!!! We could dub this the Stealth Assault
Craft (SAC for short). Heck, you could even rig one for sail and use
servos to control the rudder and sails for a completely crewless
surveilance craft.
Imagine the possibilities of being able to sneak up the shallows in an
almost bullet proof, ultra shallow draft sharpie. UNDER OARS!
Shades of Washington crossing the Delaware, I can almost see George W.
standing up in the middle grasping an American flag as his troops are
hunkered down below waiting to surprise the enemy with an amphibious
assault.
David Jost
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, ira einsteen <einsteen@...> wrote:
Peter purports to work in an insane asylum but actually he just gets
out occasionally on day passes. So we try to humour him and go along
with his level of "sanity".
(He is totally harmless - so long as he doesn't miss his meds.)
Nels:-)
>Perhaps a word of explanation will help.
> Enough with the Bolger as God talk.
Peter purports to work in an insane asylum but actually he just gets
out occasionally on day passes. So we try to humour him and go along
with his level of "sanity".
(He is totally harmless - so long as he doesn't miss his meds.)
Nels:-)
Enough with the Bolger as God talk. He's a boat designer. Amongst the best and most innovative, for sure, but he's a boat designer! I don't know him, but from what I can glean from his writings he's a thoughtful, decent, intelligent person that must view the tenor of some of these posts as sickening. Please everyone; we all love his designs, but calm down!
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Bell (smallboatdesigner)"
<smallboatdesigner@...> wrote:
But seriously John, rumours can be such wicked things to propagate and
often to no good effect.Evil wicked things they are,those nasty things
called rumours.Gentlemen never descend to such dark depths! So I ain't
tellin',no sirree,not I ,not moi,no,nay,never, no matter how juicy the
morsel may appear! ;-)
Sincerely,
Peter,sealed-lips,Lenihan.............
<smallboatdesigner@...> wrote:
> Rumor has it he's been working on something for the US Navy. Isuppose
> this is confirmation, then?O Mister Moon! The stories I could tell!
But seriously John, rumours can be such wicked things to propagate and
often to no good effect.Evil wicked things they are,those nasty things
called rumours.Gentlemen never descend to such dark depths! So I ain't
tellin',no sirree,not I ,not moi,no,nay,never, no matter how juicy the
morsel may appear! ;-)
Sincerely,
Peter,sealed-lips,Lenihan.............
Peter Lenihan wrote:
this is confirmation, then?
> A considerable and VERY VERY VERY BIG client has kept themRumor has it he's been working on something for the US Navy. I suppose
> highly engaged. Happily this is about to end and "normal" work shall
> return again!.Oh,and did I mention it was a VERY VERY VERY BIG
> client? Trust me,it is impossible to find one bigger. It totally
> surprised me and reminded me once again how important/valued his
> genius is!
this is confirmation, then?
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Paul McLellan" <paulmclellan@...>
wrote:
I will be picking up my pictures tomorrow and should have them
scanned and posted really soon....like within a day!
It would,I suppose,be a real treat to relate every single
utterance from our Hero but so much of it would sound strange as the
context would be lost.Believe me when I say this, for it should be
understood too that there were two designers present;Phil and
Susanne."Boat talk" was virtually non-stop and rapid-fire, ranging
from present concerns about the inshore/offshore fishing boats,
insightful comments on a whole slew of His published designs,
reflections on historical sailing ships with thoughts on"improving"
some of them, off and on briefs on military history,particularly
battles,choice bits of prefered reading materials,the best deals on
tabacco and on,and,on and on.......!
Perhaps not the "end of the world" but add to this deluge a
river of wines and ports sprinkled generously with two
languages/conversations carrying on simultaneously and PRESTO! the
perfect recipe to think you will not forget a thing only to discover
it has all sunk into ones subconcious, like some water-logged
tree,apparently lost for good.However,as has been my experience in
these sorts of situations,we do indeed recall every word.....but
just lack the finesse to drag the right ones back up to the sufface
when most needed :-D
I will say that none of his pronouncements were of earth
shattering importance per say as he is remarkably low-profile and
somewhat reserved.Two general comments that come readily to mind
are: PCB&Fs sincere apologees to their many clients who have been
ever so patient waiting for their own design briefs to be
completed.A considerable and VERY VERY VERY BIG client has kept them
highly engaged. Happily this is about to end and "normal" work shall
return again!.Oh,and did I mention it was a VERY VERY VERY BIG
client? Trust me,it is impossible to find one bigger. It totally
surprised me and reminded me once again how important/valued his
genius is!
The next comment also surprised me,just for its frankness, our Hero
figures he has exhausted his small boat designs after exploring
every angle.Who woulda thought?!
At anyrate, they both are now passionately into bigger designs
with only occassional trips back into their archives for"up-grades"
to particular designs given enough $$$$ to make the trip
worthwhile,as these trips take time away for fresh ideas.
Jean and Gaby,of AS-39 ANEMONE ex Le Cabotin fame are the ones
who really should have kept a tape recorder going as PCB&Fs were
their guest while living aboard ANEMONE for three days! Apparently
this was the first time in over 6 years that our Hero has slept
aboard since moving out of his own RESOLUTION and the first time in
30 years that he has been to Canada!
(gotta git back ta work right now but will post again regarding
the sailing of ANEMEONE and our HERO stay tuned :-).........:-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan, who would like to suggest to Paul that he bring down
2 bottles of plonk as I fear all the talking will dry me wee throat
like a desert, from along the coolish shores of the St.lawrence
wrote:
> Nice to see you back here Peter. Please do tell us every detailof HIS
> visit and and also an account of the Anemone sail. Maybe ourmaster could
> install a water to wine machine. I could have come down and castpalm
> leaves on the gangplank as they entered your yacht. I would liketo visit
> after the 15th of Nov and am putting the raisins and turnip peelsin the
> next batch of plonk now.Houseboat #481,
>
> Paul---Almost ready to bolt the two stern sponsons on the
> but should have an icebreaker bow addition.Hi Paul(and Garth,and David),
I will be picking up my pictures tomorrow and should have them
scanned and posted really soon....like within a day!
It would,I suppose,be a real treat to relate every single
utterance from our Hero but so much of it would sound strange as the
context would be lost.Believe me when I say this, for it should be
understood too that there were two designers present;Phil and
Susanne."Boat talk" was virtually non-stop and rapid-fire, ranging
from present concerns about the inshore/offshore fishing boats,
insightful comments on a whole slew of His published designs,
reflections on historical sailing ships with thoughts on"improving"
some of them, off and on briefs on military history,particularly
battles,choice bits of prefered reading materials,the best deals on
tabacco and on,and,on and on.......!
Perhaps not the "end of the world" but add to this deluge a
river of wines and ports sprinkled generously with two
languages/conversations carrying on simultaneously and PRESTO! the
perfect recipe to think you will not forget a thing only to discover
it has all sunk into ones subconcious, like some water-logged
tree,apparently lost for good.However,as has been my experience in
these sorts of situations,we do indeed recall every word.....but
just lack the finesse to drag the right ones back up to the sufface
when most needed :-D
I will say that none of his pronouncements were of earth
shattering importance per say as he is remarkably low-profile and
somewhat reserved.Two general comments that come readily to mind
are: PCB&Fs sincere apologees to their many clients who have been
ever so patient waiting for their own design briefs to be
completed.A considerable and VERY VERY VERY BIG client has kept them
highly engaged. Happily this is about to end and "normal" work shall
return again!.Oh,and did I mention it was a VERY VERY VERY BIG
client? Trust me,it is impossible to find one bigger. It totally
surprised me and reminded me once again how important/valued his
genius is!
The next comment also surprised me,just for its frankness, our Hero
figures he has exhausted his small boat designs after exploring
every angle.Who woulda thought?!
At anyrate, they both are now passionately into bigger designs
with only occassional trips back into their archives for"up-grades"
to particular designs given enough $$$$ to make the trip
worthwhile,as these trips take time away for fresh ideas.
Jean and Gaby,of AS-39 ANEMONE ex Le Cabotin fame are the ones
who really should have kept a tape recorder going as PCB&Fs were
their guest while living aboard ANEMONE for three days! Apparently
this was the first time in over 6 years that our Hero has slept
aboard since moving out of his own RESOLUTION and the first time in
30 years that he has been to Canada!
(gotta git back ta work right now but will post again regarding
the sailing of ANEMEONE and our HERO stay tuned :-).........:-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan, who would like to suggest to Paul that he bring down
2 bottles of plonk as I fear all the talking will dry me wee throat
like a desert, from along the coolish shores of the St.lawrence
'''''Peter Lenihan, recovering nicely after three blessed days enjoying
the company of PCB&F's which included a delicious supper on board the AS-
39-Anemone(ex Le Cabotin),the following day spent sailing her with
the master on board, another long,well watered and fed evening at a
friends home with our Hero(God) sitting right at the head of the
table and Susanne(The Prophet) at his side and culminating the next day
with a wonderfully enlightening afternoon visit to my humble boat shop
for a full-no-holds-barred tour of Windermere""
Nice to see you back here Peter. Please do tell us every detail of HIS
visit and and also an account of the Anemone sail. Maybe our master could
install a water to wine machine. I could have come down and cast palm
leaves on the gangplank as they entered your yacht. I would like to visit
after the 15th of Nov and am putting the raisins and turnip peels in the
next batch of plonk now.
Paul---Almost ready to bolt the two stern sponsons on the Houseboat #481,
but should have an icebreaker bow addition.
the company of PCB&F's which included a delicious supper on board the AS-
39-Anemone(ex Le Cabotin),the following day spent sailing her with
the master on board, another long,well watered and fed evening at a
friends home with our Hero(God) sitting right at the head of the
table and Susanne(The Prophet) at his side and culminating the next day
with a wonderfully enlightening afternoon visit to my humble boat shop
for a full-no-holds-barred tour of Windermere""
Nice to see you back here Peter. Please do tell us every detail of HIS
visit and and also an account of the Anemone sail. Maybe our master could
install a water to wine machine. I could have come down and cast palm
leaves on the gangplank as they entered your yacht. I would like to visit
after the 15th of Nov and am putting the raisins and turnip peels in the
next batch of plonk now.
Paul---Almost ready to bolt the two stern sponsons on the Houseboat #481,
but should have an icebreaker bow addition.