Re: [bolger] Re: Bonefish 20' X 7'9"
> > In the Philippines money is scarce so fishermenHi Nels,
> > nearly always use inboard engines. They are far
> > cheaper than outboards and much easier to repair
> > by the "backyard mechanic" or anyone with a basic
> > understanding of engines and a few common tools ...
> > or the local lawnmower shop.
>
> Do you thnk there might be an interest in a boat like Bonefish over
> there? PCB&F are apparently interested in helping the fishers
> (Polically correct term in Canada:-) with lower cost designs.
Do you think PCB&F might donate plans (or design a new boat) in an effort to
help the local fishermen in my area?
I think there is growing interest in boats like Bonefish as well as other
kinds of "modern" fishing boats over here, but they must be economical to
build and run because people don't have enough income to waste money on fancy
construction or lots of fuel here like they do in the USA and other developed
countries.
The Bonefish hull would certainly be interesting to the local fishermen if
it's as economical as it is reported to be, that's for sure. The local
fishermen can easily do without the toilet and cabin, but they would probably
appreciate a tarp stretched overhead so they can stay out of the sun.
What I think they might appreciate even more than the Bonefish design is a
longer and narrower boat powered by a similar engine. When they go out onto
the sea they usually go alone (or maybe in pairs) and all that unused deck
space on Bonefish might seem like a waste to haul back and forth unless it is
full of paying pasengers or cargo or something. Of course they can always
dream of huge fish catches to fill all that space, but for most of the small
fishermen over here a big catch is rather rare.
> The idea that Bolger claims it planes with low power I findThe box keel is underwater so it helps to lift the boat, thus unloading weight
> interesting as does the 15 amp alternator. That narrow stream-lined
> keel box may add to it's ability to plane with modest power?
off the planing portion of the hull. With less weight per square inch on the
planing portion of the hull, it should plane easier.
The submerged box keel that provides this "lifting effect" to the rest of the
hull adds drag of course, so this part of the hull must be streamlined in
order to insure that the overall effect is easier planing and not increased
drag -- but apparently PCB "got it right" when he created or adopted this
hull design because many of his other boats use a box keel as well.
> What type of fishing are we talking about?Some fishermen use individual lines to catch fish, others use nets, some even
go a long distance offshore for tuna. Basically they fish for anything that
lives in the ocean around here, and there are lots of different kinds of
fishes in these waters. That doesn't mean they catch a lot on average, but
they use all kinds of fishing methods here -- even "fish traps" similar to
crab and lobster traps in the USA. I had never heard of a fish trap until I
moved here.
> What kind of transmissionTransmission? What's a transmission? They just pull the starter cord and
> is used over there in the small inboards?
immediately begin moving forward!
:)
The bigger boats use surplus diesel engines that come out of used trucks,
transmission and all. But those are much bigger engines for much bigger
boats. The small boats do not have neutral or reverse, they just go when the
engine is running and stop when it's off. Direct drive.
But remember, these boats are beached every day so they do not have docks and
crowded marinas to deal with, thus they really do not need neutral or reverse
-- although in my personal experience neutral would make things a bit easier
sometimes.
I will install an idler pulley and belt drive in the next banka boat I build,
then I can use it as a manual clutch so I can have a "neutral" gear in my
boat. I cannot wait to see what the local fishermen think of it when they
see it, but I'm sure they will like it -- maybe as much as they seem to like
the innovative fiberglassed banka I introduced to them 5 years ago:
"Ooh, aah, fiberglass, ahh yes, very nice, very nice!"
Sincerely,
Kenneth Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
www.bagacayboatworks.com
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Grome <bagacayboatworks@...> wrote:
there? PCB&F are apparently interested in helping the fishers
(Polically correct term in Canada:-) with lower cost designs.
The idea that Bolger claims it planes with low power I find
interesting as does the 15 amp alternator. That narrow stream-lined
keel box may add to it's ability to plane with modest power?
There is another fellow on this list interested I believe.
What type of fishing are we talking about? What kind of transmission
is used over there in the small inboards?
Thanks,
Nels
> Hi Nels,inboard
>
> In the Philippines money is scarce so fishermen nearly always use
> engines. They are far cheaper than outboards and much easier torepair by
> the "backyard mechanic" or anyone with a basic understanding ofengines and a
> few common tools ... or the local lawnmower shop.Do you thnk there might be an interest in a boat like Bonefish over
there? PCB&F are apparently interested in helping the fishers
(Polically correct term in Canada:-) with lower cost designs.
The idea that Bolger claims it planes with low power I find
interesting as does the 15 amp alternator. That narrow stream-lined
keel box may add to it's ability to plane with modest power?
There is another fellow on this list interested I believe.
What type of fishing are we talking about? What kind of transmission
is used over there in the small inboards?
Thanks,
Nels
On Wednesday 08 November 2006 13:15, Nels wrote:
In the Philippines money is scarce so fishermen nearly always use inboard
engines. They are far cheaper than outboards and much easier to repair by
the "backyard mechanic" or anyone with a basic understanding of engines and a
few common tools ... or the local lawnmower shop.
Last week I started building a Tolman Skiff and already a local Filipino man
has asked me to adapt it to low-HP inboard power. Thus I find your post
about Bonefish to be timely and interesting ...
Phil Bolger sure likes his box cutwater keels, doesn't he? It seeme he uses
this feature on many of his boats. In the case of Bonefish it appears to
work well as a drive shaft housing and propeller protector.
I also like the sealed waterproof flush deck (a feature I hope to offer in
Tolman Skiffs) because it just "makes sense" when the boat is stored outside
and uncovered, a common practice in this country. What better way to insure
that rainwater is constantly drained out of the boat?
Sincerely,
Kenneth Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
www.bagacayboatworks.com
> I came across a write-up of a funky little Bolger inboard fishing boatHi Nels,
> also showing a guy sitting on the can. Looks like it draws about a
> foot and has a box cutwater. Posted it at Bolger 7
In the Philippines money is scarce so fishermen nearly always use inboard
engines. They are far cheaper than outboards and much easier to repair by
the "backyard mechanic" or anyone with a basic understanding of engines and a
few common tools ... or the local lawnmower shop.
Last week I started building a Tolman Skiff and already a local Filipino man
has asked me to adapt it to low-HP inboard power. Thus I find your post
about Bonefish to be timely and interesting ...
Phil Bolger sure likes his box cutwater keels, doesn't he? It seeme he uses
this feature on many of his boats. In the case of Bonefish it appears to
work well as a drive shaft housing and propeller protector.
I also like the sealed waterproof flush deck (a feature I hope to offer in
Tolman Skiffs) because it just "makes sense" when the boat is stored outside
and uncovered, a common practice in this country. What better way to insure
that rainwater is constantly drained out of the boat?
Sincerely,
Kenneth Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
www.bagacayboatworks.com
I came across a write-up of a funky little Bolger inboard fishing boat
also showing a guy sitting on the can.
Looks like it draws about a foot and has a box cutwater.
Posted it at Bolger 7
Nels
also showing a guy sitting on the can.
Looks like it draws about a foot and has a box cutwater.
Posted it at Bolger 7
Nels