Re: [bolger] Design 583, Power Yawlboat
>One of these days I hope to have the time to learn FreeShip so Ican play around
> with the .fbm files you've been posting lately ...You don't need to learn much to *view* them in Freeship. Just install
the 'free' program, and when you click on the link, you can open the
'.fbm' file and view (and rotate) the 3D rendering.
http://freeship.sourceforge.net/downloads.php
--- "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
shame on you! ... for hooking me up to yet another boat dream.
Cheeze, that has to be the max. boat that can be built indoors, i.e.
in the living room.
(Note: all following dimensions taken from your FREE!ship file)
Depth (keel to side benchs) somewhere between 30 and 31.5 inch (75 to
80 cm) should make it possible to move it through a door, when turned
onto her sides.
Keneth, the present widths are:
side floats: 14.5" (37 cm)
cockpit: 34" (86 cm)
box keel: 16" (40 cm)
I would widen her a bit, for a full 4 feet cockpit.
This would be enough for two people to sleep. And it should reduce the
draft when fully loaded with four people.
The total width would then be about 6.5' (2 Meter), still small enough
to get it through a door, and to trailer.
Heck, for rough weather I could even construct a hard top with full
standing height, screw it onto the side floats, and shape it in such a
way that I can mount it upside down to give a total transport depth of
5.5' (1.60 m). Enough to put it on a 1.6-Meter-wide van (on her sides).
And, with slight additional modifications, I could extend her
TIMS-like with another very simple extension (same profile, maybe
without the keel) to make a huge superbarge, the personal floating
hotel, built in the living room.
Ah, the 8-feet cockpit might allow to mount an original TIMS module,
or two WingNut modules (side by side) as an extension. Bruce Hector:
do you read?
I'd like to join the others who asked / requested:
Does anybody know whether this design has been built already? Photos?
Bruce, can you scan the article and host it at some place?
I'd love to see what Bolger writes about it, including his rendering
of the design. I tinkered with your file a bit. Looks like she needs 8
sheets.
Dreaming, dreaming, dreaming ...
Cheers,
Stefan
>Bruce,
> I like this Bolger design, #583
>
> Here is a link to a lines rendering of the hull
> and a freeship 'fbm' file.
shame on you! ... for hooking me up to yet another boat dream.
Cheeze, that has to be the max. boat that can be built indoors, i.e.
in the living room.
(Note: all following dimensions taken from your FREE!ship file)
Depth (keel to side benchs) somewhere between 30 and 31.5 inch (75 to
80 cm) should make it possible to move it through a door, when turned
onto her sides.
Keneth, the present widths are:
side floats: 14.5" (37 cm)
cockpit: 34" (86 cm)
box keel: 16" (40 cm)
I would widen her a bit, for a full 4 feet cockpit.
This would be enough for two people to sleep. And it should reduce the
draft when fully loaded with four people.
The total width would then be about 6.5' (2 Meter), still small enough
to get it through a door, and to trailer.
Heck, for rough weather I could even construct a hard top with full
standing height, screw it onto the side floats, and shape it in such a
way that I can mount it upside down to give a total transport depth of
5.5' (1.60 m). Enough to put it on a 1.6-Meter-wide van (on her sides).
And, with slight additional modifications, I could extend her
TIMS-like with another very simple extension (same profile, maybe
without the keel) to make a huge superbarge, the personal floating
hotel, built in the living room.
Ah, the 8-feet cockpit might allow to mount an original TIMS module,
or two WingNut modules (side by side) as an extension. Bruce Hector:
do you read?
I'd like to join the others who asked / requested:
Does anybody know whether this design has been built already? Photos?
Bruce, can you scan the article and host it at some place?
I'd love to see what Bolger writes about it, including his rendering
of the design. I tinkered with your file a bit. Looks like she needs 8
sheets.
Dreaming, dreaming, dreaming ...
Cheers,
Stefan
> I wonder if it was the type of yawlboat to originally be used onToday I found an index page online from MAIB that lists three different
> Double Eagle up in Alaska?
yawlboats by PCB&F:
#65 Double Eagle Yawlboat 12'2" x 6'3"
#583 Power Yawlboat 11'4" x 5'3"
Rowing/Outboard Motor Yawlboat 16'x4'5"
Apparently none of these are online on the MAIB website, but it looks like #65
is the boat originally designed for Fritz's Double Eagle, and #583 is a
slightly smaller one that Bruce just posted. I wonder how different they are
from each other?
> Fritz later decided to use two outboards on brackets instead and buildI remember when I first saw his site (a year or so ago I believe) and noted
> a Fastbrick (or two?) carried onboard his big Cat, "The Great Sea."
that he was going to power the catamaran with a separate boat that would push
the larger boat around from the rear.
I reviewed his site again today and learned that he decided to switch to twin
outboards on the catamaran itself. That sure is a nice looking BIG Bolger
boat, isn't it?
Sincerely,
Kenneth Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
www.bagacayboatworks.com
> 400lbs hull weight quickly built. It is more of a 'work boat' thanAssuming that the box keel cutwater (or whatever it is called) is wide enough,
> fastbrick, good pushboat, and with the recess for the outboard would make a
> handy towboat. It carries four people dry at high speed on plane too. Tight
> turning circle. Handles a 25hp motor.
it might be possible to put an inboard engine up there in the bow of the
boat, then run the drive shaft through the floor with the prop beneath the
center of the hull in the aft section.
With seats on both sides of the hull (on top of those wide flat decks) and a
canopy overhead, it might be possible to turn this boat into a great little
SCUBA diving boat.
Just think, without an outboard on a transom it would be easy to enter/exit
the water through an open center aft section, or from a wide platform aft of
a half-height bulkhead.
With no outboard in the middle it may make sense to extend the center hull
bottom all the way aft to the ends of the hull sides for more interior room,
and use dual rudders to keep the aft transom/platform area clear for easier
boarding.
Or how about dual engines, one in each enclosed side hull? Now sure how wide
they are, but probably not wide enough since the entire boat is only 5'3"
wide. Then again, no one says you cannot widen the side hulls a bit where
the engines are located ... :)
Sincerely,
Kenneth Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
www.bagacayboatworks.com
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Grome <bagacayboatworks@...> wrote:
Double Eagle up in Alaska?
Fritz later decided to use two outboards on brackets instead and build
a Fastbrick (or two?) carried onboard his big Cat, "The Great Sea."
http://www.sailglacierbay.homestead.com/thegreatsea.html
Nels
>Bolger
> Hi Bruce,
>
> I always look forward to your posts because they often alert me to
> designs that are new to me. Does this one have any cartoons or otherI wonder if it was the type of yawlboat to originally be used on
> additional info posted online that you're aware of?
Double Eagle up in Alaska?
Fritz later decided to use two outboards on brackets instead and build
a Fastbrick (or two?) carried onboard his big Cat, "The Great Sea."
http://www.sailglacierbay.homestead.com/thegreatsea.html
Nels
Hey Bruce how big would that style of boat be to
handle a 55 HP outboard?
Blessings Kristine
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Blessings Kristine
--- Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
> I like this Bolger design, #583____________________________________________________________________________________
>
> Here is a link to a lines rendering of the hull and
> a freeship 'fbm' file.
>
> 400lbs hull weight quickly built. It is more of a
> 'work boat' than
> fastbrick, good pushboat, and with the recess for
> the outboard would make a
> handy towboat. It carries four people dry at high
> speed on plane too. Tight
> turning circle. Handles a 25hp motor.
>
> 11'4" x 5'3"
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/583/583PowerYawlboat.gif
>http://hallman.org/bolger/583/583PowerYawlBoat.fbm
>
>
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> removed]
>
>
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Hi Bruce,
I always look forward to your posts because they often alert me to Bolger
designs that are new to me. Does this one have any cartoons or other
additional info posted online that you're aware of?
I would also like to thank you for all you do to promote Bolger designs. One
of these days I hope to have the time to learn FreeShip so I can play around
with the .fbm files you've been posting lately ... but the best I can do
right now is to look at the image files and seek out other web pages that
might tell me more.
This Power Yawlboat seems like a good candidate for a small, fast, low powered
fishing boat. Maybe it could be used in similar service to that of Bonefish
-- although on somewhat more protected waters? What do you think?
Sincerely,
Kenneth Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
www.bagacayboatworks.com
I always look forward to your posts because they often alert me to Bolger
designs that are new to me. Does this one have any cartoons or other
additional info posted online that you're aware of?
I would also like to thank you for all you do to promote Bolger designs. One
of these days I hope to have the time to learn FreeShip so I can play around
with the .fbm files you've been posting lately ... but the best I can do
right now is to look at the image files and seek out other web pages that
might tell me more.
This Power Yawlboat seems like a good candidate for a small, fast, low powered
fishing boat. Maybe it could be used in similar service to that of Bonefish
-- although on somewhat more protected waters? What do you think?
Sincerely,
Kenneth Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
www.bagacayboatworks.com
On Thursday 16 November 2006 03:12, Bruce Hallman wrote:
> I like this Bolger design, #583
>
> Here is a link to a lines rendering of the hull and a freeship 'fbm' file.
>
> 400lbs hull weight quickly built. It is more of a 'work boat' than
> fastbrick, good pushboat, and with the recess for the outboard would make a
> handy towboat. It carries four people dry at high speed on plane too. Tight
> turning circle. Handles a 25hp motor.
>
> 11'4" x 5'3"
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/583/583PowerYawlboat.gif
>http://hallman.org/bolger/583/583PowerYawlBoat.fbm
I like this Bolger design, #583
Here is a link to a lines rendering of the hull and a freeship 'fbm' file.
400lbs hull weight quickly built. It is more of a 'work boat' than
fastbrick, good pushboat, and with the recess for the outboard would make a
handy towboat. It carries four people dry at high speed on plane too. Tight
turning circle. Handles a 25hp motor.
11'4" x 5'3"
http://hallman.org/bolger/583/583PowerYawlboat.gif
http://hallman.org/bolger/583/583PowerYawlBoat.fbm
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Here is a link to a lines rendering of the hull and a freeship 'fbm' file.
400lbs hull weight quickly built. It is more of a 'work boat' than
fastbrick, good pushboat, and with the recess for the outboard would make a
handy towboat. It carries four people dry at high speed on plane too. Tight
turning circle. Handles a 25hp motor.
11'4" x 5'3"
http://hallman.org/bolger/583/583PowerYawlboat.gif
http://hallman.org/bolger/583/583PowerYawlBoat.fbm
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