RE: [bolger] SHS
Scooner is the name of a specific boat. The design is in Payson's Build the
New Instant Boat as Light Schooner. It is 23.5 feet long and has a transom.
His and Her Schooners and Singlehander Schooner are the same, 19.5 feet long
and double ended. SHS is how Payson lists the plans on his site
Instantboats.com.
I want to apologize again for muddying the waters here. I think I must have
crossed the rig of WDJ with the hull of BirdwatcherII. As I implied before,
I should not rely on memory.
V/R
Chris
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From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Clyde Wisner
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:59 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] SHS
...I'm 3 hrs from my "BWOM" but it seems to me that the last time I looked
at His and Her,
there wasn't any mention of Single Handed. Now Susan mentions "Light
Schooner" which rings a bell. ...
New Instant Boat as Light Schooner. It is 23.5 feet long and has a transom.
His and Her Schooners and Singlehander Schooner are the same, 19.5 feet long
and double ended. SHS is how Payson lists the plans on his site
Instantboats.com.
I want to apologize again for muddying the waters here. I think I must have
crossed the rig of WDJ with the hull of BirdwatcherII. As I implied before,
I should not rely on memory.
V/R
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Clyde Wisner
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:59 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] SHS
...I'm 3 hrs from my "BWOM" but it seems to me that the last time I looked
at His and Her,
there wasn't any mention of Single Handed. Now Susan mentions "Light
Schooner" which rings a bell. ...
I'm confused. John is right, I went back and looked at Mike O'B's art on
"Scooner" and there's no mention of Single Handed. I'm 3 hrs from my
"BWOM" but it seems to me that the last time I looked at His and Her,
there wasn't any mention of Single Handed. Now Susan mentions "Light
Schooner" which rings a bell. I am familiar with Jochems because I'm
interested in the Halifax Explorer/ Delaware Trawler, optimistically,
several months away. In the mean time I'll stick to the schooners that
carry beer. Clyde
Bruce Hallman wrote:
"Scooner" and there's no mention of Single Handed. I'm 3 hrs from my
"BWOM" but it seems to me that the last time I looked at His and Her,
there wasn't any mention of Single Handed. Now Susan mentions "Light
Schooner" which rings a bell. I am familiar with Jochems because I'm
interested in the Halifax Explorer/ Delaware Trawler, optimistically,
several months away. In the mean time I'll stick to the schooners that
carry beer. Clyde
Bruce Hallman wrote:
> What are some of the highlights of what he has to say?[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
Clyde Wisner wrote:
and Hers Schooners" in BWAOM.
O'Brien's commentary also mentions the cat schooner modification of this
venerable design first built by Jon Kolb, a frequent correspondent to
this group.
> I just received my Nov/Dec issue of Woodenboat, and there before my eyesThe review is actually for the Light Schooner. The SHS is called "His
> was Mike O'Brien's review of the Single Handed Schooner. Clyde
>
>
>
and Hers Schooners" in BWAOM.
O'Brien's commentary also mentions the cat schooner modification of this
venerable design first built by Jon Kolb, a frequent correspondent to
this group.
What are some of the highlights of what he has to say?
I just received my Nov/Dec issue of Woodenboat, and there before my eyes
was Mike O'Brien's review of the Single Handed Schooner. Clyde
was Mike O'Brien's review of the Single Handed Schooner. Clyde
G'day Clyde,
same as in BWAOM here it is in SBJ, curtesy of Bruce.
http://hallman.org/sbj/57/
Graeme
same as in BWAOM here it is in SBJ, curtesy of Bruce.
http://hallman.org/sbj/57/
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "clydewis" <clydewis@...> wrote:
>
> Somebody put the Single Handed Schooner in Cartoons or Study Plans. I
> can't recollect the "bear" dagger board...Clyde
>
Clyde,
That would be a lot of weight off center. If it was canted to put the weight on the centerline, that might work but it would go way off center as it was pulled out. 110 pounds of lead on a guessing, 20 pound board on the edge of a 4 foot wide boat would need significant compensation to keep things level. If canted, to keep things lever at the point of withdrawl. Bolger knew what he was doing. And the earlier comment of having a helper around is how the boat was designed. To travel in pairs where two people could rig and derig each boat. So how in the devil am I going to do it by myself. My plan - the board will not be removed from the boat to put it on a trailer, it will be held in the up position, locked with fids in holes through the board. To raise and lower the board I plan to have a compound block and tackle rigged to a boom extending forward from the main mast. When the board is up, the forsail can not be easily tacked so it would be dropped when approaching
shallow water. It will sail on the main and jib. The rudder is a piece of cake to lift out compared to the board. When up, I guess I can steer with an oar, my aux power! And if this doesn't work out then something else will be done.
Somebody asked earlier... The forward hold is plenty roomy enough to sleep in. I've already spent a lot of time laying there working on the hold. Its a fine place for a passenger with much storage left over.
Sincerely,
Gene T.
"A house ashore is but a boat, so poorly
built it will not float ---- "
----- Original Message ----
From: clydewis <clydewis@...>
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:27:41 PM
Subject: [bolger] SHS
Somebody put the Single Handed Schooner in Cartoons or Study Plans. I
can't recollect the "bear" dagger board. It does seem to me that if
it's in the middle of the cockpit, one could move the dagger/center
board to one side of the cockpit. Clyde
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That would be a lot of weight off center. If it was canted to put the weight on the centerline, that might work but it would go way off center as it was pulled out. 110 pounds of lead on a guessing, 20 pound board on the edge of a 4 foot wide boat would need significant compensation to keep things level. If canted, to keep things lever at the point of withdrawl. Bolger knew what he was doing. And the earlier comment of having a helper around is how the boat was designed. To travel in pairs where two people could rig and derig each boat. So how in the devil am I going to do it by myself. My plan - the board will not be removed from the boat to put it on a trailer, it will be held in the up position, locked with fids in holes through the board. To raise and lower the board I plan to have a compound block and tackle rigged to a boom extending forward from the main mast. When the board is up, the forsail can not be easily tacked so it would be dropped when approaching
shallow water. It will sail on the main and jib. The rudder is a piece of cake to lift out compared to the board. When up, I guess I can steer with an oar, my aux power! And if this doesn't work out then something else will be done.
Somebody asked earlier... The forward hold is plenty roomy enough to sleep in. I've already spent a lot of time laying there working on the hold. Its a fine place for a passenger with much storage left over.
Sincerely,
Gene T.
"A house ashore is but a boat, so poorly
built it will not float ---- "
----- Original Message ----
From: clydewis <clydewis@...>
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:27:41 PM
Subject: [bolger] SHS
Somebody put the Single Handed Schooner in Cartoons or Study Plans. I
can't recollect the "bear" dagger board. It does seem to me that if
it's in the middle of the cockpit, one could move the dagger/center
board to one side of the cockpit. Clyde
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Somebody put the Single Handed Schooner in Cartoons or Study Plans. I
can't recollect the "bear" dagger board. It does seem to me that if
it's in the middle of the cockpit, one could move the dagger/center
board to one side of the cockpit. Clyde
can't recollect the "bear" dagger board. It does seem to me that if
it's in the middle of the cockpit, one could move the dagger/center
board to one side of the cockpit. Clyde