Re: AS-29 in Florida & Pilothouse

Jim,
I don't know if I will still be around when you are,
or in the same area of the Everglades, but if you see
a Bolger Bantam, bright yellow in color, give me a
hello, I'm hoping to be launched and messing around in
Pine Island Sound by this weekend, then into the Ten
Thousand Islands. After that I want to head to
Flamingo, but I want to check if the boat ramp is
open. Back in November they still listed it as
closed, although they showed the marina as having re
opened. If we don't bump into each other have a good
cruise. In case I happen to still be around
civilization when you come to pick up your boat, my
cell is 218-343-5887. Any others Bolgerites/messers in
Florida, I would love to meet! Will be in Southern
Florida until after the middle of Feb., then planning
on heading to Cedar Keys, Suwanne River, and the
rivers out of St Marks, Carabelle, etc (can't remember
how to spell them!).
I may or may not be able to get email, as I am finding
a lack of internet access here in Florida. Public,
that is. Up in MN there are a lot of internet cafes,
but haven't found any here!
Bob Slimak



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I concur with James. It's 4 feet from the cockpit to
the companionway. On quiet passages it is a nice place
to spread out and catch some rays, if you like that
sort of thing.

The way the companionway ladder is configured, a
dodger would mean literally crawling out of the cabin
instead of the current "stand up and walk"
arrangement. (The top step of the ladder is level with
the deck.)

While underway, we typically bring everything we need
(munchies, drinks, etc.) up to the cockpit before
setting out. This limits trip below to "head trips."
Underway, it's a long way from the cockpit to the
companionway.

I have considered putting a plexi shield from the
gallows to the front of the doghouse, but haven't
really found the need. Underway we leave the hatch
cover pulled closed, thus no water gets in. The bottom
of the walk-through in the aft end of the doghouse is
several inches above the deck, so even in rain or
spray little or no water enters the cabin if the hatch
cover is pulled.

Mike
--- James Hagan <hagan@...> wrote:

>
> >So I have a question;
> >
> >It would seem that you do not have a doger over the
> gangway/entrance to
> >the cabin. While I totally understand the covering
> on the cockpit, why
> >did you not cover the entrance to the cabin to
> prevent water leaking in?
> >On long voyages, dodgers can literlly pay for
> themselves in reference
> >to th convenience and the dryness factor in the
> cabin.....
> >
> >Bruce
> >
> I'm sure Mike will have his own reply but I'll take
> a stab at it as well.
>
> One of the many appealing features of the AS29 is
> its large bridgedeck; the cockpit is four feet from
> the hatch. Unlike most boats where you are stepping
> from cockpit level into the cabin, the entry is
> straight down from the bridge deck. The gangway
> ladder is also placed amidship and when you enter
> you stand very tall in the hatch. I don't think
> there is room for an effective dodger which the boom
> would clear.
>
> It would be possible to build the AS29 with a longer
> higher cabin with direct access from the cockpit and
> a dodger might work well then but it would interfere
> some with the luxurious stern cabin.
>
> I haven't found the amount of water which enters a
> serious concern but do admit I sometimes envy those
> with an effective dodger. I often use a shelter
> tent which spans the cockpit and cabin hatch when at
> anchor.
>
> Jim Hagan
>




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>So I have a question;
>
>It would seem that you do not have a doger over the gangway/entrance to
>the cabin. While I totally understand the covering on the cockpit, why
>did you not cover the entrance to the cabin to prevent water leaking in?
>On long voyages, dodgers can literlly pay for themselves in reference
>to th convenience and the dryness factor in the cabin.....
>
>Bruce
>
I'm sure Mike will have his own reply but I'll take a stab at it as well.

One of the many appealing features of the AS29 is its large bridgedeck; the cockpit is four feet from the hatch. Unlike most boats where you are stepping from cockpit level into the cabin, the entry is straight down from the bridge deck. The gangway ladder is also placed amidship and when you enter you stand very tall in the hatch. I don't think there is room for an effective dodger which the boom would clear.

It would be possible to build the AS29 with a longer higher cabin with direct access from the cockpit and a dodger might work well then but it would interfere some with the luxurious stern cabin.

I haven't found the amount of water which enters a serious concern but do admit I sometimes envy those with an effective dodger. I often use a shelter tent which spans the cockpit and cabin hatch when at anchor.

Jim Hagan
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "willers32" <willers32@...> wrote:
>
> For all the time I've owned, lived in and travelled aboard my AS-29,
> I've wondered how to provide some shelter in the cockpit. Then I saw
> "Pandora" and her split pilothouse and decided to copy it. I framed it
> with 1x2's, then covered the top with some 1/4" ply and fiberglass. I
> sewed up some canvas/eisneglass covers and there you have it - instant
> pilothouse.
>

So I have a question;

It would seem that you do not have a doger over the gangway/entrance to
the cabin. While I totally understand the covering on the cockpit, why
did you not cover the entrance to the cabin to prevent water leaking in?
On long voyages, dodgers can literlly pay for themselves in reference
to th convenience and the dryness factor in the cabin.....

Bruce
Yes, the panels can be rolled up separately. I'm not
that good at sewing so I didn't put in zippers. That
may be the next step as there are leaks around the
edges where I only have the panels snapped together.
Also, the top cover is made of a piece of hull liner I
had left over and may not prove strong enough. It's
holding for now, So I'll wait to see how it holds
before making the permanent cover out of sunbrella.

This week will be a real test as we are crossing the
Gulf Thurs or Fri.

We plan of being in the keys sometime in Feb.

Mike
--- James Hagan <hagan@...> wrote:

> Mike, The shelters look great. Thanks for taking the
> next step; I'll be waiting to hear how they work
> out. I plan much the same for next Summer. Are the
> panels separate; can you roll them up seperately?
>
> What's your Florida schedule? My Mark VanAbbema
> River Cruiser is parked in Loxahatchee waiting for
> my arrival sometime around the second week in
> February. I had planned to trailer it down to
> Flamingo and hang out for a week or two in the Keys
> and the Everglades. It would be great to meet and
> see your boat first hand.
>
> Jim Hagan
> >
>




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Mike, The shelters look great. Thanks for taking the next step; I'll be waiting to hear how they work out. I plan much the same for next Summer. Are the panels separate; can you roll them up seperately?

What's your Florida schedule? My Mark VanAbbema River Cruiser is parked in Loxahatchee waiting for my arrival sometime around the second week in February. I had planned to trailer it down to Flamingo and hang out for a week or two in the Keys and the Everglades. It would be great to meet and see your boat first hand.

Jim Hagan
>
For all the time I've owned, lived in and travelled aboard my AS-29,
I've wondered how to provide some shelter in the cockpit. Then I saw
"Pandora" and her split pilothouse and decided to copy it. I framed it
with 1x2's, then covered the top with some 1/4" ply and fiberglass. I
sewed up some canvas/eisneglass covers and there you have it - instant
pilothouse.

No more sitting out in the rain and spray, or bundling up like Artic
explorers to sit in the cockpit and steer.

For pictures of how it turned out go to the Photos section, AS-29
folder. I posted two pics there.

http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/photos/view/f196?b=23

Also, any Bolgeristas in the Florida Panhandle come on by Moorings
marina in Carrabelle between now and Thursday and visit with us. We're
here waiting for good weather to cross over to Steinhatchee.

It's amazing how many "big boat" owners, power and sail, are jealous
of our extreme shoal draft and folding masts.

Mike Wagner