RE: [bolger] Re: Idaho

Thank you all for your advice.
I´m building on a very low budget, using polyester resin. I was looking an
alternative. But I think I will use wood.
Thanks, regards, Máximo.

I'd think wooden skids with glass or a stronger fabric tape would be better.

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Maximo" <grupos@...> wrote:
>
> I start building Idaho, attached is a photo of the bottom.
>
> What do yo think of replacing wood on the skids, and use PVC pipes,
> fiberglassed to the botton?
>
> Regards, Máximo.
>

I agree.Wood is easier and less expensive in my area.Just something I saw someone else do.I think maybe they liked to add difficult modifications just to be able to say they did it that way and it worked.

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bill Howard <billh39@...> wrote:
>
> Why use PVC pipe, with all the additional work required ("split down
> the center, fill with expanding foam....") when wood is so easy to
> work with? I used wood for the skids on my June Bug, as specified.
> Glued and screwed to the bottom, then painted.
>
> Bill Howard
> Nellysford VA
> On Jul 14, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Ben wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I have seen that done before.They used 4 inch pvc pipe split down
> > the center,filled the halves with expanding foam,cut the ends at 70
> > degree angles,wrapped the foam cored pipe halves with fiberglass and
> > epoxy,then glassed them to the hull.I've also seen this done with
> > 1.25 pvc pipe to make rub rails and gunnel caps.Use pie cuts to help
> > making curves down the side or bottom of the boat.
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Maximo" <grupos@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I start building Idaho, attached is a photo of the bottom.
> > >
> > > What do yo think of replacing wood on the skids, and use PVC pipes,
> > > fiberglassed to the botton?
> > >
> > > Regards, Máximo.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

I have seen that done before.They used 4 inch pvc pipe split down the center,filled the halves with expanding foam,cut the ends at 70 degree angles,wrapped the foam cored pipe halves with fiberglass and epoxy,then glassed them to the hull.I've also seen this done with 1.25 pvc pipe to make rub rails and gunnel caps.Use pie cuts to help making curves down the side or bottom of the boat.

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Maximo" <grupos@...> wrote:
>
> I start building Idaho, attached is a photo of the bottom.
>
> What do yo think of replacing wood on the skids, and use PVC pipes,
> fiberglassed to the botton?
>
> Regards, Máximo.
>

Why use PVC pipe, with all the additional work required ("split down the center, fill with expanding foam....") when wood is so easy to work with?  I used wood for the skids on my June Bug, as specified.  Glued and screwed to the bottom, then painted.

I start building Idaho, attached is a photo of the bottom.

What do yo think of replacing wood on the skids, and use PVC pipes,
fiberglassed to the botton?

Regards, Máximo.

A few years ago I drew a quick sketch of a scaled-up Idaho. It would
have full headroom, but still not more than camping accommodation.
At 2 tons displacement it's not really all that much bigger than a
Tennessee, at about 1.2 tons I think. See:

http://www.geocities.com/howardstephenson/Idaho2.jpg

Howard

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "donschultz8275" <donschultz@...>
wrote:

>

A better idea for easier use of the boat for standing/walking

> users is a slot top house with a snap on canvas cover IE Bolger's
> Birdwatcher, Micro or Micalak's AF4. Same sleeping utility for

camp

> cruising as the designed hardtop.
>
> If you really want a more livable standing room cabin you should

also

> plan on a broader beam boat. Other designs are more appropriate,

IE

> Minnesota, Champlain, Windermere, etc.
>
> I also have a set of CSD Idaho plans. If I built one, it wouldn't
> have a cabin, but would be arranged as a "Super Sneakeasy" runabout
> with classic looks, and room for friends. I'd put a bimini on it

and

> a modest ob motor, perhaps a faux barrelback look to the stern, and
> brightworks finish decks.

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "chodges31711" <chodges@...> wrote:

> ............The 4'10" interior of the shelter house needs to be higher.
>

I used to think the same, and even sketched a much bigger house.

But the design was originally for a wheelchair bound user. In a light
camping cruiser, on the narrow beam, more high windage is not a good
idea. A better idea for easier use of the boat for standing/walking
users is a slot top house with a snap on canvas cover IE Bolger's
Birdwatcher, Micro or Micalak's AF4. Same sleeping utility for camp
cruising as the designed hardtop.

If you really want a more livable standing room cabin you should also
plan on a broader beam boat. Other designs are more appropriate, IE
Minnesota, Champlain, Windermere, etc.

I also have a set of CSD Idaho plans. If I built one, it wouldn't
have a cabin, but would be arranged as a "Super Sneakeasy" runabout
with classic looks, and room for friends. I'd put a bimini on it and
a modest ob motor, perhaps a faux barrelback look to the stern, and
brightworks finish decks. ;-D

Duckflats did a nice job on a number of boats that are like the Idaho. They would be the ones to talk to. I know there are a number of electric outboards you can get. There is one that uses a Kort style nozzle and for the same Amp draw it gives you about15 to 20% more push then a trolling motor and that's what you are after.

A side note the Eteck motor that Duckflats used is no longer being made. A real bummer too! If you go inboard use cleated belts not Vee belts for your reduction they take less power to drive. The number I have read is 500 watts per hour of use. 750 watts is one horsepower.

Blessings Krissie

squireg <squireg@...> wrote: I have the plans for building Bolger's Idaho and wondered if anyone
else has built one?
I plan to use electric rather than petrol power and would also
appreciate advice on appropriate motor/battery/solar panel combinations.
The boat will live on the very beautiful Lake Waikaremoana in Nerw
Zealand where 4lb trout are the norm.
Regards
Greg Squire






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howardstephenson@...> wrote:

> There's plenty of information about electric boats on the web. Google
> will help you find it. Many use an electric trolling motor, or
> sometimes two of them for larger boats.

You might also want to look at duckflat's Mundoo, which is an
evolution of the Tennessee. They have done several electric versions:

http://www.duckflatwoodenboats.com/mainpages/mundoo.php

You'll find some information about possibly the only Idaho built at:

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/00/DM2000/articles/bernie/index.htm

There's plenty of information about electric boats on the web. Google
will help you find it. Many use an electric trolling motor, or
sometimes two of them for larger boats.

Howard

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "squireg" <squireg@...> wrote:
>
> I have the plans for building Bolger's Idaho and wondered if anyone
> else has built one?
> I plan to use electric rather than petrol power and would also
> appreciate advice on appropriate motor/battery/solar panel
combinations.
> The boat will live on the very beautiful Lake Waikaremoana in Nerw
> Zealand where 4lb trout are the norm.

I have the plans for building Bolger's Idaho and wondered if anyone
else has built one?
I plan to use electric rather than petrol power and would also
appreciate advice on appropriate motor/battery/solar panel combinations.
The boat will live on the very beautiful Lake Waikaremoana in Nerw
Zealand where 4lb trout are the norm.
Regards
Greg Squire

this is just one, but there are many. this one gives the most specs so far.

http://www.common-sense-boats.com/boats/Power_Boats/idaho.htm

Aaron



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Hi, what are the specs of Idaho, any pictures on the web? j

Has anyone built an Idaho besides Bernie W. of CSD? It looks like it
would be a good "picnic boat" or day boat. Too narrow at 5' for a lot
of built-in stuff. The 4'10" interior of the shelter house needs to
be higher.

I would like to know if anyone could direct me to a web site with
construction details and pics of the Idaho.

Am interested in possibly building an Idaho. Would like any information
about there construction , cost, time to build, type of materials
used,where to get the plans,etc.hjoeh@...