Re: Superbrick modification? was Class IV Ostar Racer
Thanks Bruce. I faxed Phil this afternoon and asked for a
replacement page.
Paul H.
replacement page.
Paul H.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> > This is interesting, my copy of the plans ends with #57 on page
3 of
> > the key, apparently I am missing a page.
>
> Paraphrasing page 4 of the Key, (covers about 1/3 of the page)
>
> 57.cont.Stove recess to match stove. Drawers and cabinets to
taste...
> 58.Dresser with legroom...to be used as desk.
> 59.Motor, ...5 1/2 knots max. with 6 hp motor, low pitch 3 or 4
blade propeller.
> 60.Fuel tanks as convenient, strapped in place.
> 61.Ballast...at least 500lbs, bolted down.
>
> This is interesting, my copy of the plans ends with #57 on page 3 ofParaphrasing page 4 of the Key, (covers about 1/3 of the page)
> the key, apparently I am missing a page.
57.cont.Stove recess to match stove. Drawers and cabinets to taste...
58.Dresser with legroom...to be used as desk.
59.Motor, ...5 1/2 knots max. with 6 hp motor, low pitch 3 or 4 blade propeller.
60.Fuel tanks as convenient, strapped in place.
61.Ballast...at least 500lbs, bolted down.
One of the other ideas I had after seeing the shallow
CAD drawings was put a little diesel with a straight
shaft and gear in it, as just a slowpoke to beebop
around the sound. And with a 12 to 18 Hp diesel you
would really have to run her hard to burn more then
3/4 gallon an hour. Then again the hull speed is
something around 6.5 knots.
The other thing is where are you going to get the
weight to set her down in the water?
OK so you have a small powerbarge that you can put a
lot of people on and not sink it.
Hey building her out of steel wouldn't be a bad way to
go. But you may have more draft then you want to have.
Blessings Krissie
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CAD drawings was put a little diesel with a straight
shaft and gear in it, as just a slowpoke to beebop
around the sound. And with a 12 to 18 Hp diesel you
would really have to run her hard to burn more then
3/4 gallon an hour. Then again the hull speed is
something around 6.5 knots.
The other thing is where are you going to get the
weight to set her down in the water?
OK so you have a small powerbarge that you can put a
lot of people on and not sink it.
Hey building her out of steel wouldn't be a bad way to
go. But you may have more draft then you want to have.
Blessings Krissie
--- Howard Stephenson <howardstephenson@...>
wrote:
> Seeing Krissie's post and Bruce's idea of re-drawing____________________________________________________________________________________
> it to reduce
> displacement made me wonder whether the whole hull
> and deck could be
> built of steel.
>
> But, with so many dead-flat panels, the shape is not
> really suitable
> for steel and the displacement as drawn is only 3350
> lb. You'd need
> something like 40 sheets of plywood (3/8" ?) plus
> framing timber,
> paint, glue, fasteners and fittings, outboard and
> fuel, sailing rig,
> leeboard, water and tanks, soft furnishings,
> hatches, windows,
> ground tackle, boat handling gear, dinghy, crew plus
> personal
> effects, sink, Porta-potti, food, cooking utensils,
> crockery and
> cutlery etc.
>
> With all that and the ballast Bruce has told us
> about, there
> wouldn't be much change left out of 3350 lb.
>
> Howard
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and gas bottles.
Howard
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<howardstephenson@...> wrote:
and gas bottles.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stephenson"
<howardstephenson@...> wrote:
> displacement as drawn is only 3350 lb. You'd need
> something like 40 sheets of plywood (3/8" ?) plus framing timber,
> paint, glue, fasteners and fittings, outboard and fuel, sailing rig,
> leeboard, water and tanks, soft furnishings, hatches, windows,
> ground tackle, boat handling gear, dinghy, crew plus personal
> effects, sink, Porta-potti, food, cooking utensils, crockery and
> cutlery etc.
The bucks are only a bonus. I like the boat and mainly am building because
it looks like it will suit my needs. Meeting others in the group when they
come to see it will be more important than any dollars.
Paul
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Mark Albanese
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 3:47 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Superbrick modification? was Class IV Ostar Racer
Guess that's a draw, Bruce. 500 pounds ain't exactly "massive"; but
it is lead.
Paul, if you're building this just to grab the prize money, guess you
can count on my 20 bucks.
Mark
it looks like it will suit my needs. Meeting others in the group when they
come to see it will be more important than any dollars.
Paul
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From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Mark Albanese
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 3:47 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Superbrick modification? was Class IV Ostar Racer
Guess that's a draw, Bruce. 500 pounds ain't exactly "massive"; but
it is lead.
Paul, if you're building this just to grab the prize money, guess you
can count on my 20 bucks.
Mark
On Mar 4, 2007, at 9:36 AM, Bruce Hallman wrote:
> On 3/4/07, Paul <p_hardy@hotmail. <mailto:p_hardy%40hotmail.com> com>
wrote:
>>
>> The plans do not specify lead but I had already figured that it will
>> need substantial ballast.
>
> Reading from the Superbrick (design#559) building key, note #61:
>
> "Ballast: There should be at least 500 pounds of ballast. It can be
> in lead slabs or bricks across the boat under the floorboards, most if
> not all in the bay just ahead of the 'C' bulkhead. A lead slab 1 1/4"
> thick, 12" wide (fore and aft), and 7'0" across the boat, or the
> equivalent in smaller pieces, will weight 516 pounds. STeel ballast
> could be fittee by filling more bays forward and aft. It should be
> possible at first to move it around to find the best trim as usually
> loaded (use live ballast to try the effect), but as soon as possible
> it should be bolted down to keep it from sliding around and, ideally,
> not to gall out if the boat should get bottom-up as could happen in a
> big breaking wave."
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
This is interesting, my copy of the plans ends with #57 on page 3 of
the key, apparently I am missing a page.
the key, apparently I am missing a page.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> On 3/4/07, Paul <p_hardy@...> wrote:
> >
> > The plans do not specify lead but I had already figured that it
will
> > need substantial ballast.
>
> Reading from the Superbrick (design#559) building key, note #61:
>
> "Ballast: There should be at least 500 pounds of ballast. It can
be
> in lead slabs or bricks across the boat under the floorboards,
most if
> not all in the bay just ahead of the 'C' bulkhead. A lead slab 1
1/4"
> thick, 12" wide (fore and aft), and 7'0" across the boat, or the
> equivalent in smaller pieces, will weight 516 pounds. STeel
ballast
> could be fittee by filling more bays forward and aft. It should be
> possible at first to move it around to find the best trim as
usually
> loaded (use live ballast to try the effect), but as soon as
possible
> it should be bolted down to keep it from sliding around and,
ideally,
> not to gall out if the boat should get bottom-up as could happen
in a
> big breaking wave."
>
Seeing Krissie's post and Bruce's idea of re-drawing it to reduce
displacement made me wonder whether the whole hull and deck could be
built of steel.
But, with so many dead-flat panels, the shape is not really suitable
for steel and the displacement as drawn is only 3350 lb. You'd need
something like 40 sheets of plywood (3/8" ?) plus framing timber,
paint, glue, fasteners and fittings, outboard and fuel, sailing rig,
leeboard, water and tanks, soft furnishings, hatches, windows,
ground tackle, boat handling gear, dinghy, crew plus personal
effects, sink, Porta-potti, food, cooking utensils, crockery and
cutlery etc.
With all that and the ballast Bruce has told us about, there
wouldn't be much change left out of 3350 lb.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Kristine Bennett <femmpaws@...>
wrote:
_______________
displacement made me wonder whether the whole hull and deck could be
built of steel.
But, with so many dead-flat panels, the shape is not really suitable
for steel and the displacement as drawn is only 3350 lb. You'd need
something like 40 sheets of plywood (3/8" ?) plus framing timber,
paint, glue, fasteners and fittings, outboard and fuel, sailing rig,
leeboard, water and tanks, soft furnishings, hatches, windows,
ground tackle, boat handling gear, dinghy, crew plus personal
effects, sink, Porta-potti, food, cooking utensils, crockery and
cutlery etc.
With all that and the ballast Bruce has told us about, there
wouldn't be much change left out of 3350 lb.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Kristine Bennett <femmpaws@...>
wrote:
>_____________________________________________________________________
> I was looking at the rendering of the Superbrick and
> think a sheet of steel formed to the hull would give
> you some of the ballast needed and it would also help
> with grounding.
>
> Yes I know you would need a bunch of counter sunk
> holes to bolt it on. But you could also drill and tape
> them and on the outside plug weld the holes to seal
> them.
>
> Blessings all Krissie
>
> --- Paul <p_hardy@...> wrote:
>
> > The plans do not specify lead but I had already
> > figured that it will
> > need substantial ballast. Have been accumulating
> > large amounts of
> > wheel weights from a friend who runs a tire store
> > for several months
> > now. Both superbrick and my other boat project, a
> > Sam Devlin Winter
> > Wren started by Dave Lipsey will require a good bit
> > of it and I am
> > casting it into bricks that can be used in either
> > project. Devlin's
> > plans call for lead bricks and shot cast in epoxy
> > rather than
> > casting the entire keel and I will use this with
> > superbrick as well.
> >
> > BTW, the boat will be named Irresponsible, the name
> > taken from the
> > last paragraph in Bolger's article on it in BWAOM:
> >
> > "Irresponsible. A gratuitous mockery of
> > right-thinking boatmen and
> > other snobs."
> >
> > Being one who has always been a little different
> > that line was what
> > clenched the deal for me on building her and seemed
> > the perfect name.
> >
> > Paul H.
> >
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark Albanese
> > <marka@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Bruce, I'm looking at the Superbrick drawings but
> > cannot find the
> > > lead. It isn't needed. The DWL is only at 3350#.
> > Say a long ton
> > on
> > > the structure and a 1000 for a payload?
> > > I really liked you own drawing, but didn't expect
> > the step garvey
> > > when you wrote "easing the chines". Just slicing
> > them off be yet
> > > another way to do it.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > > snip
> > >
> > > > the massive volume of the hull requires massive
> > lead ballast to
> > > > get the hull to float down on waterline.
> > > >
> > > > By 'easing' the chine, you can set between
> > trailer wheels, plus
> > you
> > > > can reduce the amount of needed lead ballast.
> > > >
> > > > It has the problem that it complicates the
> > cabin, especially
> > impeding
> > > > on the standing headroom in the toilet.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>http://hallman.org/bolger/Superbrick/AlternateSuperbrickHull.gif
> > > >
> > > >http://hallman.org/bolger/Superbrick/althull.gif
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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Guess that's a draw, Bruce. 500 pounds ain't exactly "massive"; but
it is lead.
Paul, if you're building this just to grab the prize money, guess you
can count on my 20 bucks.
Mark
it is lead.
Paul, if you're building this just to grab the prize money, guess you
can count on my 20 bucks.
Mark
On Mar 4, 2007, at 9:36 AM, Bruce Hallman wrote:
> On 3/4/07, Paul <p_hardy@...> wrote:
>>
>> The plans do not specify lead but I had already figured that it will
>> need substantial ballast.
>
> Reading from the Superbrick (design#559) building key, note #61:
>
> "Ballast: There should be at least 500 pounds of ballast. It can be
> in lead slabs or bricks across the boat under the floorboards, most if
> not all in the bay just ahead of the 'C' bulkhead. A lead slab 1 1/4"
> thick, 12" wide (fore and aft), and 7'0" across the boat, or the
> equivalent in smaller pieces, will weight 516 pounds. STeel ballast
> could be fittee by filling more bays forward and aft. It should be
> possible at first to move it around to find the best trim as usually
> loaded (use live ballast to try the effect), but as soon as possible
> it should be bolted down to keep it from sliding around and, ideally,
> not to gall out if the boat should get bottom-up as could happen in a
> big breaking wave."
>
I was looking at the rendering of the Superbrick and
think a sheet of steel formed to the hull would give
you some of the ballast needed and it would also help
with grounding.
Yes I know you would need a bunch of counter sunk
holes to bolt it on. But you could also drill and tape
them and on the outside plug weld the holes to seal
them.
Blessings all Krissie
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think a sheet of steel formed to the hull would give
you some of the ballast needed and it would also help
with grounding.
Yes I know you would need a bunch of counter sunk
holes to bolt it on. But you could also drill and tape
them and on the outside plug weld the holes to seal
them.
Blessings all Krissie
--- Paul <p_hardy@...> wrote:
> The plans do not specify lead but I had alreadyhttp://hallman.org/bolger/Superbrick/AlternateSuperbrickHull.gif
> figured that it will
> need substantial ballast. Have been accumulating
> large amounts of
> wheel weights from a friend who runs a tire store
> for several months
> now. Both superbrick and my other boat project, a
> Sam Devlin Winter
> Wren started by Dave Lipsey will require a good bit
> of it and I am
> casting it into bricks that can be used in either
> project. Devlin's
> plans call for lead bricks and shot cast in epoxy
> rather than
> casting the entire keel and I will use this with
> superbrick as well.
>
> BTW, the boat will be named Irresponsible, the name
> taken from the
> last paragraph in Bolger's article on it in BWAOM:
>
> "Irresponsible. A gratuitous mockery of
> right-thinking boatmen and
> other snobs."
>
> Being one who has always been a little different
> that line was what
> clenched the deal for me on building her and seemed
> the perfect name.
>
> Paul H.
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark Albanese
> <marka@...> wrote:
> >
> > Bruce, I'm looking at the Superbrick drawings but
> cannot find the
> > lead. It isn't needed. The DWL is only at 3350#.
> Say a long ton
> on
> > the structure and a 1000 for a payload?
> > I really liked you own drawing, but didn't expect
> the step garvey
> > when you wrote "easing the chines". Just slicing
> them off be yet
> > another way to do it.
> >
> > Mark
> > > snip
> >
> > > the massive volume of the hull requires massive
> lead ballast to
> > > get the hull to float down on waterline.
> > >
> > > By 'easing' the chine, you can set between
> trailer wheels, plus
> you
> > > can reduce the amount of needed lead ballast.
> > >
> > > It has the problem that it complicates the
> cabin, especially
> impeding
> > > on the standing headroom in the toilet.
> > >
> > >
>
> > >____________________________________________________________________________________
> > >http://hallman.org/bolger/Superbrick/althull.gif
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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On 3/4/07, Paul <p_hardy@...> wrote:
"Ballast: There should be at least 500 pounds of ballast. It can be
in lead slabs or bricks across the boat under the floorboards, most if
not all in the bay just ahead of the 'C' bulkhead. A lead slab 1 1/4"
thick, 12" wide (fore and aft), and 7'0" across the boat, or the
equivalent in smaller pieces, will weight 516 pounds. STeel ballast
could be fittee by filling more bays forward and aft. It should be
possible at first to move it around to find the best trim as usually
loaded (use live ballast to try the effect), but as soon as possible
it should be bolted down to keep it from sliding around and, ideally,
not to gall out if the boat should get bottom-up as could happen in a
big breaking wave."
>Reading from the Superbrick (design#559) building key, note #61:
> The plans do not specify lead but I had already figured that it will
> need substantial ballast.
"Ballast: There should be at least 500 pounds of ballast. It can be
in lead slabs or bricks across the boat under the floorboards, most if
not all in the bay just ahead of the 'C' bulkhead. A lead slab 1 1/4"
thick, 12" wide (fore and aft), and 7'0" across the boat, or the
equivalent in smaller pieces, will weight 516 pounds. STeel ballast
could be fittee by filling more bays forward and aft. It should be
possible at first to move it around to find the best trim as usually
loaded (use live ballast to try the effect), but as soon as possible
it should be bolted down to keep it from sliding around and, ideally,
not to gall out if the boat should get bottom-up as could happen in a
big breaking wave."
The plans do not specify lead but I had already figured that it will
need substantial ballast. Have been accumulating large amounts of
wheel weights from a friend who runs a tire store for several months
now. Both superbrick and my other boat project, a Sam Devlin Winter
Wren started by Dave Lipsey will require a good bit of it and I am
casting it into bricks that can be used in either project. Devlin's
plans call for lead bricks and shot cast in epoxy rather than
casting the entire keel and I will use this with superbrick as well.
BTW, the boat will be named Irresponsible, the name taken from the
last paragraph in Bolger's article on it in BWAOM:
"Irresponsible. A gratuitous mockery of right-thinking boatmen and
other snobs."
Being one who has always been a little different that line was what
clenched the deal for me on building her and seemed the perfect name.
Paul H.
need substantial ballast. Have been accumulating large amounts of
wheel weights from a friend who runs a tire store for several months
now. Both superbrick and my other boat project, a Sam Devlin Winter
Wren started by Dave Lipsey will require a good bit of it and I am
casting it into bricks that can be used in either project. Devlin's
plans call for lead bricks and shot cast in epoxy rather than
casting the entire keel and I will use this with superbrick as well.
BTW, the boat will be named Irresponsible, the name taken from the
last paragraph in Bolger's article on it in BWAOM:
"Irresponsible. A gratuitous mockery of right-thinking boatmen and
other snobs."
Being one who has always been a little different that line was what
clenched the deal for me on building her and seemed the perfect name.
Paul H.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark Albanese <marka@...> wrote:
>
> Bruce, I'm looking at the Superbrick drawings but cannot find the
> lead. It isn't needed. The DWL is only at 3350#. Say a long ton
on
> the structure and a 1000 for a payload?
> I really liked you own drawing, but didn't expect the step garvey
> when you wrote "easing the chines". Just slicing them off be yet
> another way to do it.
>
> Mark
> > snip
>
> > the massive volume of the hull requires massive lead ballast to
> > get the hull to float down on waterline.
> >
> > By 'easing' the chine, you can set between trailer wheels, plus
you
> > can reduce the amount of needed lead ballast.
> >
> > It has the problem that it complicates the cabin, especially
impeding
> > on the standing headroom in the toilet.
> >
> >http://hallman.org/bolger/Superbrick/AlternateSuperbrickHull.gif
> >
> >http://hallman.org/bolger/Superbrick/althull.gif
> >
> >
> >
>
According to Bruce Hector's post in duckworks
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/03/r/articles/superbrick/index.htm
To win the pledges the builder must;
A: Build a recognizable Bolger Superbrick from Phil Bolger & Friends
supplied plans (currently $200) that follows the spirit (as Phil
says, exercise creativity ONLY above the waterline!).
B: Sail or wallow (with or without the help of a motor, scull or
oars!) around a 1 mile triangular course with the sail up.
C: At the owners/builders convenience permit the pledgers to inspect
and/or ride in the said Superbrick. Since making friends is the best
part of owning a unique vessl (and a Superbrick will lead to MANY
dockside conversations, believe me!) this should not be too onerous.
Not too difficult a set of requirements and should lead to meeting
some of ya'll for a few beers on the boat.
Paul H.
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/03/r/articles/superbrick/index.htm
To win the pledges the builder must;
A: Build a recognizable Bolger Superbrick from Phil Bolger & Friends
supplied plans (currently $200) that follows the spirit (as Phil
says, exercise creativity ONLY above the waterline!).
B: Sail or wallow (with or without the help of a motor, scull or
oars!) around a 1 mile triangular course with the sail up.
C: At the owners/builders convenience permit the pledgers to inspect
and/or ride in the said Superbrick. Since making friends is the best
part of owning a unique vessl (and a Superbrick will lead to MANY
dockside conversations, believe me!) this should not be too onerous.
Not too difficult a set of requirements and should lead to meeting
some of ya'll for a few beers on the boat.
Paul H.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark Albanese <marka@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2007, at 10:31 PM, Harry James wrote:
>
> > This will be the prize winning first constructed Superbrick
correct?
> >
> > HJ
>
>
> Any rules beyond it must sail?
>
Yes, I had found out about the superbrick because of an article I
think on Duckworks that I found when researching Bolger designs and
had checked in with the group a while back when I first started to
find out if the challenge was still open.
Paul H.
think on Duckworks that I found when researching Bolger designs and
had checked in with the group a while back when I first started to
find out if the challenge was still open.
Paul H.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark Albanese <marka@...> wrote:
>
> Bruce's alternative has some very nice curves and would suit some
> requirements perfectly, but you're after the high volume barge.
> That trailer will certainly do it.
>
> Did you know there was a prize?
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2007, at 6:00 PM, Paul wrote:
>
> > Its an interesting change, though it also negates some of the
things
> > I like about the interior (such as the standup head) and
complicates
> > construction. The simplicity of the design is one of the things
> > that attracted me to it in the first place.
> >
> > My way of addressing the trailering issue is to use an old car
> > hauling trailer that is being extensively modified for
superbrick.
> > Rollers on the bed and the ramps will allow using the ramps and a
> > good winch to get her on and off the trailer. It still stands
> > taller than I would like but it won't be trailed often.
> >
> > The same trailer will be used as a construction platform. It is
> > currently being renovated while I complete the lower hull panels.
> > When the lower hull goes up (hopefully by the end of this month)
I
> > will be posting some pictures.
> >
> > Paul H.
> >
> >
>
That is my plan, though someone else had contacted me (maybe it was
a group post too) that they were looking at building one as well but
I haven't heard anymore from them and I'm not sure if they had even
bought the plans.
Its a boat that deserves a shot at reality.
Paul H.
a group post too) that they were looking at building one as well but
I haven't heard anymore from them and I'm not sure if they had even
bought the plans.
Its a boat that deserves a shot at reality.
Paul H.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
>
> This will be the prize winning first constructed Superbrick
correct?
>
> HJ
>
> Paul wrote:
> > Bruce,
> > What was your idea for a superbrick modification? I have been
building
> > bits of mine over the winter and hope to have the lower hull
assembled
> > by the end of March. Cold weather and an unheated work shop
slowed me
> > down over the winter but now I am trying to make up for lost
time.
> >
> > Paul H.
> >
> >
>
Bruce, I'm looking at the Superbrick drawings but cannot find the
lead. It isn't needed. The DWL is only at 3350#. Say a long ton on
the structure and a 1000 for a payload?
I really liked you own drawing, but didn't expect the step garvey
when you wrote "easing the chines". Just slicing them off be yet
another way to do it.
Mark
lead. It isn't needed. The DWL is only at 3350#. Say a long ton on
the structure and a 1000 for a payload?
I really liked you own drawing, but didn't expect the step garvey
when you wrote "easing the chines". Just slicing them off be yet
another way to do it.
Mark
> snip
> the massive volume of the hull requires massive lead ballast to
> get the hull to float down on waterline.
>
> By 'easing' the chine, you can set between trailer wheels, plus you
> can reduce the amount of needed lead ballast.
>
> It has the problem that it complicates the cabin, especially impeding
> on the standing headroom in the toilet.
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/Superbrick/AlternateSuperbrickHull.gif
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/Superbrick/althull.gif
>
>
>
On Mar 3, 2007, at 10:31 PM, Harry James wrote:
> This will be the prize winning first constructed Superbrick correct?Any rules beyond it must sail?
>
> HJ
Bruce's alternative has some very nice curves and would suit some
requirements perfectly, but you're after the high volume barge.
That trailer will certainly do it.
Did you know there was a prize?
Mark
requirements perfectly, but you're after the high volume barge.
That trailer will certainly do it.
Did you know there was a prize?
Mark
On Mar 3, 2007, at 6:00 PM, Paul wrote:
> Its an interesting change, though it also negates some of the things
> I like about the interior (such as the standup head) and complicates
> construction. The simplicity of the design is one of the things
> that attracted me to it in the first place.
>
> My way of addressing the trailering issue is to use an old car
> hauling trailer that is being extensively modified for superbrick.
> Rollers on the bed and the ramps will allow using the ramps and a
> good winch to get her on and off the trailer. It still stands
> taller than I would like but it won't be trailed often.
>
> The same trailer will be used as a construction platform. It is
> currently being renovated while I complete the lower hull panels.
> When the lower hull goes up (hopefully by the end of this month) I
> will be posting some pictures.
>
> Paul H.
>
>
This will be the prize winning first constructed Superbrick correct?
HJ
Paul wrote:
HJ
Paul wrote:
> Bruce,
> What was your idea for a superbrick modification? I have been building
> bits of mine over the winter and hope to have the lower hull assembled
> by the end of March. Cold weather and an unheated work shop slowed me
> down over the winter but now I am trying to make up for lost time.
>
> Paul H.
>
>
Its an interesting change, though it also negates some of the things
I like about the interior (such as the standup head) and complicates
construction. The simplicity of the design is one of the things
that attracted me to it in the first place.
My way of addressing the trailering issue is to use an old car
hauling trailer that is being extensively modified for superbrick.
Rollers on the bed and the ramps will allow using the ramps and a
good winch to get her on and off the trailer. It still stands
taller than I would like but it won't be trailed often.
The same trailer will be used as a construction platform. It is
currently being renovated while I complete the lower hull panels.
When the lower hull goes up (hopefully by the end of this month) I
will be posting some pictures.
Paul H.
I like about the interior (such as the standup head) and complicates
construction. The simplicity of the design is one of the things
that attracted me to it in the first place.
My way of addressing the trailering issue is to use an old car
hauling trailer that is being extensively modified for superbrick.
Rollers on the bed and the ramps will allow using the ramps and a
good winch to get her on and off the trailer. It still stands
taller than I would like but it won't be trailed often.
The same trailer will be used as a construction platform. It is
currently being renovated while I complete the lower hull panels.
When the lower hull goes up (hopefully by the end of this month) I
will be posting some pictures.
Paul H.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > Bruce,
> > What was your idea for a superbrick modification?
>
> The Superbrick doesn't settle nicely between two wheels of a
trailer,
> plus the massive volume of the hull requires massive lead ballast
to
> get the hull to float down on waterline.
>
> By 'easing' the chine, you can set between trailer wheels, plus you
> can reduce the amount of needed lead ballast.
>
> It has the problem that it complicates the cabin, especially
impeding
> on the standing headroom in the toilet.
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/Superbrick/AlternateSuperbrickHull.gif
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/Superbrick/althull.gif
>
>The Superbrick doesn't settle nicely between two wheels of a trailer,
> Bruce,
> What was your idea for a superbrick modification?
plus the massive volume of the hull requires massive lead ballast to
get the hull to float down on waterline.
By 'easing' the chine, you can set between trailer wheels, plus you
can reduce the amount of needed lead ballast.
It has the problem that it complicates the cabin, especially impeding
on the standing headroom in the toilet.
http://hallman.org/bolger/Superbrick/AlternateSuperbrickHull.gif
http://hallman.org/bolger/Superbrick/althull.gif
Bruce,
What was your idea for a superbrick modification? I have been building
bits of mine over the winter and hope to have the lower hull assembled
by the end of March. Cold weather and an unheated work shop slowed me
down over the winter but now I am trying to make up for lost time.
Paul H.
What was your idea for a superbrick modification? I have been building
bits of mine over the winter and hope to have the lower hull assembled
by the end of March. Cold weather and an unheated work shop slowed me
down over the winter but now I am trying to make up for lost time.
Paul H.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> > Do you share your renderings with PCB?
>
> Generally I don't print them out and mail them to PCB, not wanting to
> pester him. I have sent a couple. One he ignored, and the other, (my
> Superbrick modification), he wrote back saying more thought is needed
> but it might be an improvement.
>
> Mostly, I am doing those models to allow myself, personally, to better
> visualize his designs. I find the process of modeling to be quite
> helpful towards understanding his design philosophy and values.
>
> Do you share your renderings with PCB?Generally I don't print them out and mail them to PCB, not wanting to
pester him. I have sent a couple. One he ignored, and the other, (my
Superbrick modification), he wrote back saying more thought is needed
but it might be an improvement.
Mostly, I am doing those models to allow myself, personally, to better
visualize his designs. I find the process of modeling to be quite
helpful towards understanding his design philosophy and values.
> Every so often people remember that Phil Bolger designed an "AdvancedGreat work. Do you share your renderings with PCB?
> Sharpie" Class IV Ostar Racer, 29'-6" x 7'-6" x 6'6"/3'6"
>
> Here are some 3D renderings.
Every so often people remember that Phil Bolger designed an "Advanced
Sharpie" Class IV Ostar Racer, 29'-6" x 7'-6" x 6'6"/3'6"
Here are some 3D renderings.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hallman/tags/ostar/
Sharpie" Class IV Ostar Racer, 29'-6" x 7'-6" x 6'6"/3'6"
Here are some 3D renderings.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hallman/tags/ostar/