Re: bolger closest match to weekender
It's not a Bolger boat, but you might have a look at the "Great
Pelican" a 16-foot version of the San Francisco Pelican:
http://community-2.webtv.net/PelicanSailboat/SFPELICANSAILBOATS/
(Scroll down to the bottom of that page for a nice photo.)
The Great Pelican has good accommodations for her size, is a
relatively easy build, and is more capable than the Weekender. Some
years ago a fellow built a Great Pelican with a self-bailing cockpit
and shallow keel (in lieu of a centerboard), and sailed her from LA to
Hawaii.
Pelican" a 16-foot version of the San Francisco Pelican:
http://community-2.webtv.net/PelicanSailboat/SFPELICANSAILBOATS/
(Scroll down to the bottom of that page for a nice photo.)
The Great Pelican has good accommodations for her size, is a
relatively easy build, and is more capable than the Weekender. Some
years ago a fellow built a Great Pelican with a self-bailing cockpit
and shallow keel (in lieu of a centerboard), and sailed her from LA to
Hawaii.
My Weekender is a Veteran of the 2004 and 2006 BEER cruise.
In 2004, we rode out a tropical depression at anchor, and motored
through some pretty nasty confused stuff in the driving rain and
howling wind to get to a ramp.
You can read about 2004 here
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/04/s/gatherings/beercruise/index.cfm
It's a good little boat, but I have mostly day sailed it.
You don't cleat the main, and it must be "actively" sailed, but if
you have any experience at all in small unballasted craft, like the
sunfishe etc, the stability and feel of the weekender is "big boat"
by comparison.
The cruising limitation of the Weekender lies in it's limited
accomodations, but my son and I have done 2 multi day adventures now.
The other limitation is the lack of a self draining cockpit.. And I
have flooded mine with a 6 foot summation of 2 powerboat wakes..
that's right.. 2 feet above the sprit.. washed across the boat, and
left about 8 inches in the cockpit, which I quickly pumped out.
Fun boat though.. Mine is 9 years old now.
John
In 2004, we rode out a tropical depression at anchor, and motored
through some pretty nasty confused stuff in the driving rain and
howling wind to get to a ramp.
You can read about 2004 here
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/04/s/gatherings/beercruise/index.cfm
It's a good little boat, but I have mostly day sailed it.
You don't cleat the main, and it must be "actively" sailed, but if
you have any experience at all in small unballasted craft, like the
sunfishe etc, the stability and feel of the weekender is "big boat"
by comparison.
The cruising limitation of the Weekender lies in it's limited
accomodations, but my son and I have done 2 multi day adventures now.
The other limitation is the lack of a self draining cockpit.. And I
have flooded mine with a 6 foot summation of 2 powerboat wakes..
that's right.. 2 feet above the sprit.. washed across the boat, and
left about 8 inches in the cockpit, which I quickly pumped out.
Fun boat though.. Mine is 9 years old now.
John
> NOT 'Weekender' but 'Triad' . . .And not Bolger's Triad, either.
I suggest the Pirate Racer. Easy build, nice style, lateen rig...
I don't suggest - er, what was that name - Little Superior, or was it
a different boat by the builder of Little Superior, or am I out in
left field. Anyway, the hull shape was good, and the dipping lug rig
was effective, but the strip construction was very difficult.
NOT 'Weekender' but 'Triad' . . .
I'd 'collected' the 'Triad' plans several years ago. Either on a
'boatbuilding forum' or some article, I came across the mention of
'Amphora'. Only one copy in the state of Pennsylvania - got it via
Inter-Library Loan. Copied almost the entire book {at least 30 pages at
$0.10 per = $3.oo . . . cheap}.
While I don't have any children, it should make a an interesting
'conveyance' to my mooring. I'm in the process of finding some photo's
of small boats in the Mediterranean / Aegean area - for 'authentic'
color schemes.
Regards,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
I'd 'collected' the 'Triad' plans several years ago. Either on a
'boatbuilding forum' or some article, I came across the mention of
'Amphora'. Only one copy in the state of Pennsylvania - got it via
Inter-Library Loan. Copied almost the entire book {at least 30 pages at
$0.10 per = $3.oo . . . cheap}.
While I don't have any children, it should make a an interesting
'conveyance' to my mooring. I'm in the process of finding some photo's
of small boats in the Mediterranean / Aegean area - for 'authentic'
color schemes.
Regards,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
> 4d. Re: bolger closest match to weekenderSNIP
> Posted by: "The Peillet-Long Family"owlnmole@...owlnmole
> Date: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:38 am ((PDT))
>
> I am a big fan of the Weekender, and I have great little book
> called "Building Amphora" about one of Stevenson's sons buiding a
> little (10 foot?) boat with a decidedly Greek look, basically a
> miniature Weekender without a sail.
check out the microcruising group
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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:37 AM
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Subject: [bolger] Re: bolger closest match to weekender
I am a big fan of the Weekender, and I have great little book
called "Building Amphora" about one of Stevenson's sons buiding a
little (10 foot?) boat with a decidedly Greek look, basically a
miniature Weekender without a sail. Anybody interested in inspiring a
child to build a book should get a copy from a used bookstore -- I see
two used copies on Amazon for about $10 -- and just leave it lying
around where the kids will find it.
The Weekender and family are actually great little boats in terms of
getting traditional small boat looks from plywood, but I have always
been concerned about taking an unballasted, traditionally-proportioned
boat like Weekender out for any kind of serious cruising. I'd
appreciate hearing any comments from folks with experience that would
prove me wrong. Maybe some foam and some ballast is all I'd need to
allay my fears.
I would second the vote for Micro as great and much more seaworthy
alternative -- see Chuck Merrell's site at
http://www.boatdesign.com/micro/-- and also suggest a look at Jim
Michalak's plans athttp://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/michalak.htm
for lots of similar boats with a cuddy cabin.
Happy boat shopping! As you all already, know I'm, pun intendended, in
the same boat myself!
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From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
The Peillet-Long Family
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:37 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: bolger closest match to weekender
I am a big fan of the Weekender, and I have great little book
called "Building Amphora" about one of Stevenson's sons buiding a
little (10 foot?) boat with a decidedly Greek look, basically a
miniature Weekender without a sail. Anybody interested in inspiring a
child to build a book should get a copy from a used bookstore -- I see
two used copies on Amazon for about $10 -- and just leave it lying
around where the kids will find it.
The Weekender and family are actually great little boats in terms of
getting traditional small boat looks from plywood, but I have always
been concerned about taking an unballasted, traditionally-proportioned
boat like Weekender out for any kind of serious cruising. I'd
appreciate hearing any comments from folks with experience that would
prove me wrong. Maybe some foam and some ballast is all I'd need to
allay my fears.
I would second the vote for Micro as great and much more seaworthy
alternative -- see Chuck Merrell's site at
http://www.boatdesign.com/micro/-- and also suggest a look at Jim
Michalak's plans athttp://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/michalak.htm
for lots of similar boats with a cuddy cabin.
Happy boat shopping! As you all already, know I'm, pun intendended, in
the same boat myself!
> Does bolger have a sailboat that would match the "Weekender" foraccomodations, buildability and looks?
Bolger rules!!!
- NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please!
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, respamming, or flogging dead
horses
- stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
- Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
- Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax:
(978) 282-1349
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I am a big fan of the Weekender, and I have great little book
called "Building Amphora" about one of Stevenson's sons buiding a
little (10 foot?) boat with a decidedly Greek look, basically a
miniature Weekender without a sail. Anybody interested in inspiring a
child to build a book should get a copy from a used bookstore -- I see
two used copies on Amazon for about $10 -- and just leave it lying
around where the kids will find it.
The Weekender and family are actually great little boats in terms of
getting traditional small boat looks from plywood, but I have always
been concerned about taking an unballasted, traditionally-proportioned
boat like Weekender out for any kind of serious cruising. I'd
appreciate hearing any comments from folks with experience that would
prove me wrong. Maybe some foam and some ballast is all I'd need to
allay my fears.
I would second the vote for Micro as great and much more seaworthy
alternative -- see Chuck Merrell's site at
http://www.boatdesign.com/micro/-- and also suggest a look at Jim
Michalak's plans athttp://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/michalak.htm
for lots of similar boats with a cuddy cabin.
Happy boat shopping! As you all already, know I'm, pun intendended, in
the same boat myself!
called "Building Amphora" about one of Stevenson's sons buiding a
little (10 foot?) boat with a decidedly Greek look, basically a
miniature Weekender without a sail. Anybody interested in inspiring a
child to build a book should get a copy from a used bookstore -- I see
two used copies on Amazon for about $10 -- and just leave it lying
around where the kids will find it.
The Weekender and family are actually great little boats in terms of
getting traditional small boat looks from plywood, but I have always
been concerned about taking an unballasted, traditionally-proportioned
boat like Weekender out for any kind of serious cruising. I'd
appreciate hearing any comments from folks with experience that would
prove me wrong. Maybe some foam and some ballast is all I'd need to
allay my fears.
I would second the vote for Micro as great and much more seaworthy
alternative -- see Chuck Merrell's site at
http://www.boatdesign.com/micro/-- and also suggest a look at Jim
Michalak's plans athttp://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/michalak.htm
for lots of similar boats with a cuddy cabin.
Happy boat shopping! As you all already, know I'm, pun intendended, in
the same boat myself!
> Does bolger have a sailboat that would match the "Weekender" foraccomodations, buildability and looks?
Looks are a matter of taste, but you have several options.
Birdwatcher, Camper, Otter II (which I think was recently
redesigned), Micro (although that might be a bit heavy), Wish II
(Okay, it's ugly), Cruising Canoe (a bit more work, but pretty),
Japanese Beach Cruiser (although that might be a bit small), Cynthia
J (also might be a bit small). . .
Gary Blankenship
Birdwatcher, Camper, Otter II (which I think was recently
redesigned), Micro (although that might be a bit heavy), Wish II
(Okay, it's ugly), Cruising Canoe (a bit more work, but pretty),
Japanese Beach Cruiser (although that might be a bit small), Cynthia
J (also might be a bit small). . .
Gary Blankenship
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, echo172@... wrote:
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> Does bolger have a sailboat that would match the "Weekender" for
accomodations, buildability and looks?
> In a few more days I should have the new Payson book, hoping
something was put there just for me. If bolger had a web site, it
would be so nice.
>
>
>
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>
The Chebacco is a bit bigger, has the looks, IMHO.
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To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:53 PM
Subject: [bolger] bolger closest match to weekender
> Does bolger have a sailboat that would match the "Weekender" for
> accomodations, buildability and looks?
> In a few more days I should have the new Payson book, hoping something was
> put there just for me. If bolger had a web site, it would be so nice.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, respamming, or flogging dead
> horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax:
> (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Does bolger have a sailboat that would match the "Weekender" for accomodations, buildability and looks?
In a few more days I should have the new Payson book, hoping something was put there just for me. If bolger had a web site, it would be so nice.
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In a few more days I should have the new Payson book, hoping something was put there just for me. If bolger had a web site, it would be so nice.
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