Re: [bolger] 100 year old Tennessee ??

Thanks for posting. I keep coming back to this set of picts. This is
what I'd try to do with a Topaz hull. (and may if I live long enough) Clyde

gravelyrider wrote:

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> It may be my imagination, but this sure could pass for a Tennessee .
>
>http://www.trabatsakuten.nu/batbilder/storre_motorbatar/stor_mot_085.htm
> <http://www.trabatsakuten.nu/batbilder/storre_motorbatar/stor_mot_085.htm>
>
> what do ya' think ?? the canoe stern sure adds a nice touch.
>
>




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I finally got a "faster' dial up connection and got to see all the
pictures. Really pretty boat but I can't help seeing a slightly smaller
version on a Topaz hull. It's a sickness I guess. Clyde

gravelyrider wrote:

>
> It may be my imagination, but this sure could pass for a Tennessee .
>
>http://www.trabatsakuten.nu/batbilder/storre_motorbatar/stor_mot_085.htm
> <http://www.trabatsakuten.nu/batbilder/storre_motorbatar/stor_mot_085.htm>
>
> what do ya' think ?? the canoe stern sure adds a nice touch.
>
>




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Try this link -- I can't read the text, but there are reproductions
of old AC&F, Chris Craft and many more ads and brochures. The AC&F
reference for Tennessee is easier to see here.

<http://www.cmbweb.no/Kuriositeter.htm>

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stephenson"
<howardstephenson@...> wrote:
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> Bolger says in Different Boats that the styling reminds him of an
> old ACF (American Car & Foundry) cruiser. The only photo of an ACF
> cruiser I could find on the web can be seen by clicking on the link
> at this page:
>
>http://www.locomobilia.com/nautical_memorabilia_sale_literature.htm
>
> To me, this one doesn't look much like Tennessee. ELCO launches of
> the same period were similar to Tennessee in styling. See:
>
>http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h99000/h99880k.jpg
>
> Howard
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gravelyrider" <ddvorak@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > It may be my imagination, but this sure could pass for a
> Tennessee .
> >
> >
>
http://www.trabatsakuten.nu/batbilder/storre_motorbatar/stor_mot_085.
> htm
> >
> > what do ya' think ?? the canoe stern sure adds a nice touch.
>
Bolger says in Different Boats that the styling reminds him of an
old ACF (American Car & Foundry) cruiser. The only photo of an ACF
cruiser I could find on the web can be seen by clicking on the link
at this page:

http://www.locomobilia.com/nautical_memorabilia_sale_literature.htm

To me, this one doesn't look much like Tennessee. ELCO launches of
the same period were similar to Tennessee in styling. See:

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h99000/h99880k.jpg

Howard

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gravelyrider" <ddvorak@...> wrote:
>
>
> It may be my imagination, but this sure could pass for a
Tennessee .
>
>
http://www.trabatsakuten.nu/batbilder/storre_motorbatar/stor_mot_085.
htm
>
> what do ya' think ?? the canoe stern sure adds a nice touch.
I found an article on Hickman and after the flat bottom he added vertical
panels that extended down from the hull sides, this eventually became the
sea sled concept.



Starting in the autumn of 1908, Hickman and Munsie began their research
with the similar, but better finished, VIPER II. They realized that the
boat's flat bottom was forcing out spray and a considerable wake. In his
engineer's mind, Hickman saw it as energy that was being wasted. To prevent
this, side plates that looked like straight bronze sled runners were added
at the chines and proved effective in trapping air and redirecting spray
back underneath the boat. The end result was increased lift and speed from
the same power. To Hickman, it was becoming obvious that "the principle of
confining air beneath the hull might be of the utmost importance in the
development of boats that are to be run at speed".



Full article at:



http://members.fortunecity.com/invertedvboats/Hickman_Bio.html



Caloosarat





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From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
pvanderwaart
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:16 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: 100 year old Tennessee ??



> Albert Hickman used the long shape with a flat bottom and developed
it into
> a planning hull that eventually became the SeaSled hull series.

Not to be too pedantic, I would say Hickman yes, SeaSled no. Hickman
did both but the SeaSled was a different idea, not a development of
the flat bottom.





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> Albert Hickman used the long shape with a flat bottom and developed
it into
> a planning hull that eventually became the SeaSled hull series.

Not to be too pedantic, I would say Hickman yes, SeaSled no. Hickman
did both but the SeaSled was a different idea, not a development of
the flat bottom.
Without the books in front of me there may be some error in the following;
Tennessee was a spin off of a update of a design that was intended to allow
steam to compete with the new gasoline engines, about 100 years ago.
Albert Hickman used the long shape with a flat bottom and developed it into
a planning hull that eventually became the SeaSled hull series. PCB credits
Mr Hickman in the article that he wrote on Ester Mae in MAIB.



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From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
The Peillet-Long Family
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:17 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: 100 year old Tennessee ??



As I remember, Tennessee was inspired by 1920s motor cruisers, so it's not
far off.
Beautiful, beautiful boat.





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As I remember, Tennessee was inspired by 1920s motor cruisers, so it's not far off.
Beautiful, beautiful boat.
It may be my imagination, but this sure could pass for a Tennessee .

http://www.trabatsakuten.nu/batbilder/storre_motorbatar/stor_mot_085.htm

what do ya' think ?? the canoe stern sure adds a nice touch.