Re: Three River Launched!

Always liked K/W - especially the food. My daughter graduated from WLU.

Any thoughts about the Kingston Messabout in September?

Bryant- north of Peterborough

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bh100014" <ben.ho@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks!
>
> Launched at the Conestogo Lake in Ontario. It's a small lake where
> we have a sailing club. That's where my boat(s) reside.
>
> Ben
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bryant Owen" <mariner@> wrote:
> >
> > Terrific job. Where did you launch?
> >
> > Bryant
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bh100014" <ben.ho@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The Chebcaao Three Rivers was launched last Sunday with much
> > > fanfare, under a beautiful sky with a moderate breeze. The local
> > > newspaper even sent a crew out to report on the story (building
> a 20
> > > footer in ones' garage, in landlocked Waterloo is newsworthy!).
> > > Everything went quite well. I was relieved that the trailer
> > > launching & recovery was fairly straight forward, as the boat
> ramp
> > > at our sailing club has a very shallow gradient limited by the
> shore
> > > line. I've posted some pictures on the Photos file under Ben's
> Three
> > > Rivers. Some points of interest:
> > > - I put the boat & trailer through the landfill weigh scale. It
> > > comes up to about 2200 lb. The trailer is a heavy duty one,
> > > including the spare tire is around 700 lb, so the boat weighs
> 1500
> > > lb. This seems about right, as I added 250 lb of
> battery/ballast,
> > > plus a heavy-duty cabin roof.
> > > - With a cross wind of about 5 knots, the boat takes a
> surprising
> > > amount of effort to hold on to at the bow/stern lines. My
> reference
> > > is my 17 ft Marsh Hen, which has a fairly high side for its
> length,
> > > and the Hen takes much less effort. I've mostly single handed
> the
> > > Hen for launch/sail/recover, and assumed I can do the same with
> the
> > > Chebacco; now I am not too sure...
> > > - The wind died (that was when the sailing photo was taken), and
> we
> > > puttered around with the electric motor, sometimes with a full
> load
> > > of spectators. I like the motor! Nice and quiet, just turn the
> > > handle and it goes. The rudder is pleasantly responsive with a
> very
> > > tight turning radius. (Does it begin to sound like a sport car?)
> > > - After a while the wind picked back up to 10 kts. She sailed
> well
> > > in this wind, and is extremely stable (again with my 17 ft Hen
> as
> > > reference). Response is slower than the Hen, which can be
> expected
> > > given two times the weight. Very sure-footed, comes about with
> no
> > > hesitation. At this wind there's a slight weather helm, just
> about
> > > right.
> > > - The mizzen doesn't seem to do much, but I think I have much to
> > > learn yet about trimming the mizzen.
> > > - The raising/lower of the gaff takes more effort than I
> thought.
> > > Also, the gaff jaw rubs hard against the mast such that several
> > > spots were stripped bare of varnish, even though the jaw is
> covered
> > > with leather. I think I need to sheath the mast section with a
> piece
> > > of SS sheet. Does anyone else have this problem??
> > > - A hundred other small things need to be worked on, such as
> where
> > > to hang the fenders so they don't destroy the rub rail....but
> > > overall I am quite happy so far.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> >
>

Thanks!

Launched at the Conestogo Lake in Ontario. It's a small lake where
we have a sailing club. That's where my boat(s) reside.

Ben

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bryant Owen" <mariner@...> wrote:
>
> Terrific job. Where did you launch?
>
> Bryant
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bh100014" <ben.ho@> wrote:
> >
> > The Chebcaao Three Rivers was launched last Sunday with much
> > fanfare, under a beautiful sky with a moderate breeze. The local
> > newspaper even sent a crew out to report on the story (building
a 20
> > footer in ones' garage, in landlocked Waterloo is newsworthy!).
> > Everything went quite well. I was relieved that the trailer
> > launching & recovery was fairly straight forward, as the boat
ramp
> > at our sailing club has a very shallow gradient limited by the
shore
> > line. I've posted some pictures on the Photos file under Ben's
Three
> > Rivers. Some points of interest:
> > - I put the boat & trailer through the landfill weigh scale. It
> > comes up to about 2200 lb. The trailer is a heavy duty one,
> > including the spare tire is around 700 lb, so the boat weighs
1500
> > lb. This seems about right, as I added 250 lb of
battery/ballast,
> > plus a heavy-duty cabin roof.
> > - With a cross wind of about 5 knots, the boat takes a
surprising
> > amount of effort to hold on to at the bow/stern lines. My
reference
> > is my 17 ft Marsh Hen, which has a fairly high side for its
length,
> > and the Hen takes much less effort. I've mostly single handed
the
> > Hen for launch/sail/recover, and assumed I can do the same with
the
> > Chebacco; now I am not too sure...
> > - The wind died (that was when the sailing photo was taken), and
we
> > puttered around with the electric motor, sometimes with a full
load
> > of spectators. I like the motor! Nice and quiet, just turn the
> > handle and it goes. The rudder is pleasantly responsive with a
very
> > tight turning radius. (Does it begin to sound like a sport car?)
> > - After a while the wind picked back up to 10 kts. She sailed
well
> > in this wind, and is extremely stable (again with my 17 ft Hen
as
> > reference). Response is slower than the Hen, which can be
expected
> > given two times the weight. Very sure-footed, comes about with
no
> > hesitation. At this wind there's a slight weather helm, just
about
> > right.
> > - The mizzen doesn't seem to do much, but I think I have much to
> > learn yet about trimming the mizzen.
> > - The raising/lower of the gaff takes more effort than I
thought.
> > Also, the gaff jaw rubs hard against the mast such that several
> > spots were stripped bare of varnish, even though the jaw is
covered
> > with leather. I think I need to sheath the mast section with a
piece
> > of SS sheet. Does anyone else have this problem??
> > - A hundred other small things need to be worked on, such as
where
> > to hang the fenders so they don't destroy the rub rail....but
> > overall I am quite happy so far.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Ben
> >
>

Bruce wrote "...Q: Recently I experienced an occasion where I could not get
her to run downwind. What might have caused this?"

Intriguing. What actually happened? The boat wouldn't turn downwind from a
reach or would not make any progress downwind?What point of sail were you
on, how were the sails set? &c.Tides / currents? Sea state?

I celebrate your success! Congratulations.

> - The mizzen doesn't seem to do much, but I think I have much to
> learn yet about trimming the mizzen.

I too am learning the tricks of sailing a cat yawl, after decades of
sailing a sloop.

Trimming a mizzen is all about 'helm balance'. Sheet it tight when
you want to point up, and loose otherwise. This means quickly
sheeting tight and unsheeting during a tack.

> - The raising/lower of the gaff takes more effort than I thought.

Me too. I ended up double parting my gaff throat halyard because of
this. I also double parted the topping lifts.

> Also, the gaff jaw rubs hard against the mast

I decided, if I were to 'do over', my gaff jaws could and should have
been built wider open.

( I have a cat yawl question of my own...someone might answer...)

Q: Recently I experienced an occasion where I could not get her to run
downwind. What might have caused this?

Terrific job. Where did you launch?

Bryant

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bh100014" <ben.ho@...> wrote:
>
> The Chebcaao Three Rivers was launched last Sunday with much
> fanfare, under a beautiful sky with a moderate breeze. The local
> newspaper even sent a crew out to report on the story (building a 20
> footer in ones' garage, in landlocked Waterloo is newsworthy!).
> Everything went quite well. I was relieved that the trailer
> launching & recovery was fairly straight forward, as the boat ramp
> at our sailing club has a very shallow gradient limited by the shore
> line. I've posted some pictures on the Photos file under Ben's Three
> Rivers. Some points of interest:
> - I put the boat & trailer through the landfill weigh scale. It
> comes up to about 2200 lb. The trailer is a heavy duty one,
> including the spare tire is around 700 lb, so the boat weighs 1500
> lb. This seems about right, as I added 250 lb of battery/ballast,
> plus a heavy-duty cabin roof.
> - With a cross wind of about 5 knots, the boat takes a surprising
> amount of effort to hold on to at the bow/stern lines. My reference
> is my 17 ft Marsh Hen, which has a fairly high side for its length,
> and the Hen takes much less effort. I've mostly single handed the
> Hen for launch/sail/recover, and assumed I can do the same with the
> Chebacco; now I am not too sure...
> - The wind died (that was when the sailing photo was taken), and we
> puttered around with the electric motor, sometimes with a full load
> of spectators. I like the motor! Nice and quiet, just turn the
> handle and it goes. The rudder is pleasantly responsive with a very
> tight turning radius. (Does it begin to sound like a sport car?)
> - After a while the wind picked back up to 10 kts. She sailed well
> in this wind, and is extremely stable (again with my 17 ft Hen as
> reference). Response is slower than the Hen, which can be expected
> given two times the weight. Very sure-footed, comes about with no
> hesitation. At this wind there's a slight weather helm, just about
> right.
> - The mizzen doesn't seem to do much, but I think I have much to
> learn yet about trimming the mizzen.
> - The raising/lower of the gaff takes more effort than I thought.
> Also, the gaff jaw rubs hard against the mast such that several
> spots were stripped bare of varnish, even though the jaw is covered
> with leather. I think I need to sheath the mast section with a piece
> of SS sheet. Does anyone else have this problem??
> - A hundred other small things need to be worked on, such as where
> to hang the fenders so they don't destroy the rub rail....but
> overall I am quite happy so far.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ben
>

Ben,

Looks like you did a beautiful job. Chebacco is a shapely boat, and
you have really maximized that asset with your paint job. Now begins
the task of Keeping It looking that beautiful <G>

Cheers,
David Graybeal
Portland, OR

"Order is the shape upon which beauty depends" -- Pearl S. Buck

***************

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bh100014" <ben.ho@...> wrote:
>
> The Chebcaao Three Rivers was launched last Sunday with much
> fanfare, under a beautiful sky with a moderate breeze. The local
> newspaper even sent a crew out to report on the story (building a 20
> footer in ones' garage, in landlocked Waterloo is newsworthy!).
> Everything went quite well. I was relieved that the trailer
> launching & recovery was fairly straight forward, as the boat ramp
> at our sailing club has a very shallow gradient limited by the shore
> line. I've posted some pictures on the Photos file under Ben's Three
> Rivers. Some points of interest:
> - I put the boat & trailer through the landfill weigh scale. It
> comes up to about 2200 lb. The trailer is a heavy duty one,
> including the spare tire is around 700 lb, so the boat weighs 1500
> lb. This seems about right, as I added 250 lb of battery/ballast,
> plus a heavy-duty cabin roof.
> - With a cross wind of about 5 knots, the boat takes a surprising
> amount of effort to hold on to at the bow/stern lines. My reference
> is my 17 ft Marsh Hen, which has a fairly high side for its length,
> and the Hen takes much less effort. I've mostly single handed the
> Hen for launch/sail/recover, and assumed I can do the same with the
> Chebacco; now I am not too sure...
> - The wind died (that was when the sailing photo was taken), and we
> puttered around with the electric motor, sometimes with a full load
> of spectators. I like the motor! Nice and quiet, just turn the
> handle and it goes. The rudder is pleasantly responsive with a very
> tight turning radius. (Does it begin to sound like a sport car?)
> - After a while the wind picked back up to 10 kts. She sailed well
> in this wind, and is extremely stable (again with my 17 ft Hen as
> reference). Response is slower than the Hen, which can be expected
> given two times the weight. Very sure-footed, comes about with no
> hesitation. At this wind there's a slight weather helm, just about
> right.
> - The mizzen doesn't seem to do much, but I think I have much to
> learn yet about trimming the mizzen.
> - The raising/lower of the gaff takes more effort than I thought.
> Also, the gaff jaw rubs hard against the mast such that several
> spots were stripped bare of varnish, even though the jaw is covered
> with leather. I think I need to sheath the mast section with a piece
> of SS sheet. Does anyone else have this problem??
> - A hundred other small things need to be worked on, such as where
> to hang the fenders so they don't destroy the rub rail....but
> overall I am quite happy so far.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ben
>

--
Congratulatons Ben! Beautiful boat. Wishing you many years of
enjoyment ahead.

Fairwinds and smooth seas!

Regards,

Dennis Lancaster
Old Shoe building in Bellingham, WA



- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bh100014" <ben.ho@...> wrote:

>
> The Chebcaao Three Rivers was launched last Sunday with much
> fanfare, under a beautiful sky with a moderate breeze. The local
> newspaper even sent a crew out to report on the story (building a

20

> footer in ones' garage, in landlocked Waterloo is newsworthy!).
> Everything went quite well. I was relieved that the trailer
> launching & recovery was fairly straight forward, as the boat ramp
> at our sailing club has a very shallow gradient limited by the

shore

> line. I've posted some pictures on the Photos file under Ben's

Three

> Rivers. Some points of interest:
> - I put the boat & trailer through the landfill weigh scale. It
> comes up to about 2200 lb. The trailer is a heavy duty one,
> including the spare tire is around 700 lb, so the boat weighs 1500
> lb. This seems about right, as I added 250 lb of battery/ballast,
> plus a heavy-duty cabin roof.
> - With a cross wind of about 5 knots, the boat takes a surprising
> amount of effort to hold on to at the bow/stern lines. My reference
> is my 17 ft Marsh Hen, which has a fairly high side for its length,
> and the Hen takes much less effort. I've mostly single handed the
> Hen for launch/sail/recover, and assumed I can do the same with the
> Chebacco; now I am not too sure...
> - The wind died (that was when the sailing photo was taken), and we
> puttered around with the electric motor, sometimes with a full load
> of spectators. I like the motor! Nice and quiet, just turn the
> handle and it goes. The rudder is pleasantly responsive with a very
> tight turning radius. (Does it begin to sound like a sport car?)
> - After a while the wind picked back up to 10 kts. She sailed well
> in this wind, and is extremely stable (again with my 17 ft Hen as
> reference). Response is slower than the Hen, which can be expected
> given two times the weight. Very sure-footed, comes about with no
> hesitation. At this wind there's a slight weather helm, just about
> right.
> - The mizzen doesn't seem to do much, but I think I have much to
> learn yet about trimming the mizzen.
> - The raising/lower of the gaff takes more effort than I thought.
> Also, the gaff jaw rubs hard against the mast such that several
> spots were stripped bare of varnish, even though the jaw is covered
> with leather. I think I need to sheath the mast section with a

piece

> of SS sheet. Does anyone else have this problem??
> - A hundred other small things need to be worked on, such as where
> to hang the fenders so they don't destroy the rub rail....but
> overall I am quite happy so far.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ben
>

The Chebcaao Three Rivers was launched last Sunday with much
fanfare, under a beautiful sky with a moderate breeze. The local
newspaper even sent a crew out to report on the story (building a 20
footer in ones' garage, in landlocked Waterloo is newsworthy!).
Everything went quite well. I was relieved that the trailer
launching & recovery was fairly straight forward, as the boat ramp
at our sailing club has a very shallow gradient limited by the shore
line. I've posted some pictures on the Photos file under Ben's Three
Rivers. Some points of interest:
- I put the boat & trailer through the landfill weigh scale. It
comes up to about 2200 lb. The trailer is a heavy duty one,
including the spare tire is around 700 lb, so the boat weighs 1500
lb. This seems about right, as I added 250 lb of battery/ballast,
plus a heavy-duty cabin roof.
- With a cross wind of about 5 knots, the boat takes a surprising
amount of effort to hold on to at the bow/stern lines. My reference
is my 17 ft Marsh Hen, which has a fairly high side for its length,
and the Hen takes much less effort. I've mostly single handed the
Hen for launch/sail/recover, and assumed I can do the same with the
Chebacco; now I am not too sure...
- The wind died (that was when the sailing photo was taken), and we
puttered around with the electric motor, sometimes with a full load
of spectators. I like the motor! Nice and quiet, just turn the
handle and it goes. The rudder is pleasantly responsive with a very
tight turning radius. (Does it begin to sound like a sport car?)
- After a while the wind picked back up to 10 kts. She sailed well
in this wind, and is extremely stable (again with my 17 ft Hen as
reference). Response is slower than the Hen, which can be expected
given two times the weight. Very sure-footed, comes about with no
hesitation. At this wind there's a slight weather helm, just about
right.
- The mizzen doesn't seem to do much, but I think I have much to
learn yet about trimming the mizzen.
- The raising/lower of the gaff takes more effort than I thought.
Also, the gaff jaw rubs hard against the mast such that several
spots were stripped bare of varnish, even though the jaw is covered
with leather. I think I need to sheath the mast section with a piece
of SS sheet. Does anyone else have this problem??
- A hundred other small things need to be worked on, such as where
to hang the fenders so they don't destroy the rub rail....but
overall I am quite happy so far.

Cheers

Ben