Re: [bolger] Re: sailmaking?...now Nels a micro junkie
Jason, if you left the house on it, you might, at the end of the summer,
interest somebody in it, as a motor cruiser, without the keel. You might
save the sail rig for your next adventure. Clyde
Jason Stancil wrote:
interest somebody in it, as a motor cruiser, without the keel. You might
save the sail rig for your next adventure. Clyde
Jason Stancil wrote:
> Have you navigatored the LM do you still have lestat?[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> > Holy Moses - don't even think about it! I still have photos on my
> HD of Multum in Parvo (Much in Little)- and I'm on my 3rd computer
> since I saved them.
> >
> > Why not make the pilothouse removable and sustitute a bimini in the
> > summer? Change the name to BIG OLD SHOE:-D
>
> The house will go this summer, it sails fine with it....long as i
> reef down above 15 knts.
>
> Not sure what i'll have to do at summers end, gawd forbid i think i
> have to move to the midwest come fall. My little wagon (not a
> beemer) cannot pull the little monster farther than a few miles to a
> ramp and back.
>
> Anyone need a Micro navigator with no keel?
>
> Jason
>
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Stancil" <jasonstancil@...> wrote:
navigatorizing Zephyr. Know anyone who might have an extra pilothouse
for sale?
LESTAT is in my garage at the new place I am moving to and requires
some refinishing. Know anyone who likes sanding brightwork?
Have you considered just removing the windows? You could then have
screens instead and internal roll-down closures to keep out water.
Of course you still would have the towing challenge.
Where in the dreaded midwest are you perhaps destined?
Nels, (From the dreaded great white north)
>As you may have read - I am still in the decision stage as to
> Have you navigatored the LM do you still have lestat?
>
navigatorizing Zephyr. Know anyone who might have an extra pilothouse
for sale?
LESTAT is in my garage at the new place I am moving to and requires
some refinishing. Know anyone who likes sanding brightwork?
Have you considered just removing the windows? You could then have
screens instead and internal roll-down closures to keep out water.
Of course you still would have the towing challenge.
Where in the dreaded midwest are you perhaps destined?
Nels, (From the dreaded great white north)
Have you navigatored the LM do you still have lestat?
since I saved them.
reef down above 15 knts.
Not sure what i'll have to do at summers end, gawd forbid i think i
have to move to the midwest come fall. My little wagon (not a
beemer) cannot pull the little monster farther than a few miles to a
ramp and back.
Anyone need a Micro navigator with no keel?
Jason
> Holy Moses - don't even think about it! I still have photos on myHD of Multum in Parvo (Much in Little)- and I'm on my 3rd computer
since I saved them.
>The house will go this summer, it sails fine with it....long as i
> Why not make the pilothouse removable and sustitute a bimini in the
> summer? Change the name to BIG OLD SHOE:-D
reef down above 15 knts.
Not sure what i'll have to do at summers end, gawd forbid i think i
have to move to the midwest come fall. My little wagon (not a
beemer) cannot pull the little monster farther than a few miles to a
ramp and back.
Anyone need a Micro navigator with no keel?
Jason
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Stancil" <jasonstancil@...> wrote:
of Multum in Parvo (Much in Little)- and I'm on my 3rd computer since
I saved them.
Why not make the pilothouse removable and sustitute a bimini in the
summer? Change the name to BIG OLD SHOE:-D
And you have about 3 sets of reef points so you might be able to tweak
the CE a bit. Do you have an end plate on the rudder?
Trade in your Beamer for an old Chevy half ton and you are all set for
anything.
Another option is to sell it to Bruce Hector on his way down to FL
next winter.
I bought Dan Gonneau's Long Micro the winter befor last.
Nels
>Holy Moses - don't even think about it! I still have photos on my HD
> Nels-
> See you're still the micro junkie.....have you started your LM
> yet....as far as the conversation went....something like that but
> that has been a few years since that conversation. Roger is my
> freekin' hero.
>
> I still plan to cut the cabin off my navigtor as heat stroke is
> going to happen sooner or later down here with that damn pilot
> house. I don't care what bolger says about downdraft from the
> sail...it's HOT! Imagine a micro sized old shoe....oh yeah
>
> As you know i put a 200 sqft balacnced lug sail on mine that when
> coupled with the internal ballast has made for some impressive
> lessons in center of effort forces....that main up high enough to
> clear the cabin could lay her on her ear....but would fly back up
> from those angles, the little box boats have quite a bit of reserve
> bouyancy.....I'm talking about 25knt wints and no reefs the point
> where the rudder can't hang on. Neat little boats.
>
> Alas, I no longer own a vehicle capable of towing her so i need to
> sale her or gut her for bronze, lexan, lead and dacron and do the
> unimaginable with the chainsaw, figure she's worth more in parts
> than as a whole.
>
> Jason
of Multum in Parvo (Much in Little)- and I'm on my 3rd computer since
I saved them.
Why not make the pilothouse removable and sustitute a bimini in the
summer? Change the name to BIG OLD SHOE:-D
And you have about 3 sets of reef points so you might be able to tweak
the CE a bit. Do you have an end plate on the rudder?
Trade in your Beamer for an old Chevy half ton and you are all set for
anything.
Another option is to sell it to Bruce Hector on his way down to FL
next winter.
I bought Dan Gonneau's Long Micro the winter befor last.
Nels
Nels-
See you're still the micro junkie.....have you started your LM
yet....as far as the conversation went....something like that but
that has been a few years since that conversation. Roger is my
freekin' hero.
I still plan to cut the cabin off my navigtor as heat stroke is
going to happen sooner or later down here with that damn pilot
house. I don't care what bolger says about downdraft from the
sail...it's HOT! Imagine a micro sized old shoe....oh yeah
As you know i put a 200 sqft balacnced lug sail on mine that when
coupled with the internal ballast has made for some impressive
lessons in center of effort forces....that main up high enough to
clear the cabin could lay her on her ear....but would fly back up
from those angles, the little box boats have quite a bit of reserve
bouyancy.....I'm talking about 25knt wints and no reefs the point
where the rudder can't hang on. Neat little boats.
Alas, I no longer own a vehicle capable of towing her so i need to
sale her or gut her for bronze, lexan, lead and dacron and do the
unimaginable with the chainsaw, figure she's worth more in parts
than as a whole.
Jason
See you're still the micro junkie.....have you started your LM
yet....as far as the conversation went....something like that but
that has been a few years since that conversation. Roger is my
freekin' hero.
I still plan to cut the cabin off my navigtor as heat stroke is
going to happen sooner or later down here with that damn pilot
house. I don't care what bolger says about downdraft from the
sail...it's HOT! Imagine a micro sized old shoe....oh yeah
As you know i put a 200 sqft balacnced lug sail on mine that when
coupled with the internal ballast has made for some impressive
lessons in center of effort forces....that main up high enough to
clear the cabin could lay her on her ear....but would fly back up
from those angles, the little box boats have quite a bit of reserve
bouyancy.....I'm talking about 25knt wints and no reefs the point
where the rudder can't hang on. Neat little boats.
Alas, I no longer own a vehicle capable of towing her so i need to
sale her or gut her for bronze, lexan, lead and dacron and do the
unimaginable with the chainsaw, figure she's worth more in parts
than as a whole.
Jason
Silicon lubricant on the needle will certainly help. There are a couple of
other measures that will help also.
Don't use the tape unless it is necessary. Many, perhaps most, seams can be
made quite nicely without the tape. Of course, like anything else, practise
is useful here!
Use narrow tape so you can sew on either side of it, and not directly
through it.
There is one seam tape, called "Wonder Tape" that does not gum up the
needle.
Try also holding the seam together with plain old masking tape on the
outside, removing it as you come to it in the seam.
Of course it is true that you must not expect a five dollar sewing machine
to behave like a decent Pfaff with dual feed!
I do a lot of sewing on sailcloth--3/4 oz. spinnaker cloth primarily--in my
hobby of designing and building show kites. Trust me, you will get better at
this with practice.
By the way--check out some of our kites at the site shown below with my
signature.
--
John Freeman
Check us out at--
http://2oldkiters.smugmug.com/
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other measures that will help also.
Don't use the tape unless it is necessary. Many, perhaps most, seams can be
made quite nicely without the tape. Of course, like anything else, practise
is useful here!
Use narrow tape so you can sew on either side of it, and not directly
through it.
There is one seam tape, called "Wonder Tape" that does not gum up the
needle.
Try also holding the seam together with plain old masking tape on the
outside, removing it as you come to it in the seam.
Of course it is true that you must not expect a five dollar sewing machine
to behave like a decent Pfaff with dual feed!
I do a lot of sewing on sailcloth--3/4 oz. spinnaker cloth primarily--in my
hobby of designing and building show kites. Trust me, you will get better at
this with practice.
By the way--check out some of our kites at the site shown below with my
signature.
--
John Freeman
Check us out at--
http://2oldkiters.smugmug.com/
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Jason,
The fact that your adhesive seems to be sensitive to heat makes me
wonder what kind of adhesive you are using These seaming tapes come in
a variety of adhesives. I worked for years in lofts in FL and USVI that
did not have air conditioning and the glue was not any more problem
than in air conditioning. It may just be your machine is sensitive to
the glue as many small machines are and you will just need to clean the
glue and spray with lubricant regularly. It may also be that a
different needle size may make it better depending on the material and
thread you are using.
Mark
The fact that your adhesive seems to be sensitive to heat makes me
wonder what kind of adhesive you are using These seaming tapes come in
a variety of adhesives. I worked for years in lofts in FL and USVI that
did not have air conditioning and the glue was not any more problem
than in air conditioning. It may just be your machine is sensitive to
the glue as many small machines are and you will just need to clean the
glue and spray with lubricant regularly. It may also be that a
different needle size may make it better depending on the material and
thread you are using.
Mark
On Jun 9, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Jason Stancil wrote:
> Thanks Mark and Kristine,
> I'll try the silcone on the hook and see if that helps also i may haul
> and old window unit into the attic and run it for a few hours before i
> start sewing again to try and solidify the goo.
> Thanks Again,
> Jason
>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Stancil" <jasonstancil@...> wrote:
in "sail loft":-D
Do you recall any of your conversation with Susanne Altenburger about
the suitability of MICRO NAV vs. LM NAV? Seems to me she felt the LM
was the better choice for longer ocean trips and the MICRO OK for
shorter jaunts, the main reason being the hull speed potential. But
can't recall if there were other reasons? Obviously room for more
stores in LM would be another.
I think she also warned about slowing down to avoid surfing and
potentially broaching. But sounds like Roger Keyes did some surfing in
Paloma but admitted it was kind of nerve wracking.
A full length keel on a short WL is more prone to getting knocked
sideways by a following sea from what I hear, compared to a
centerboarder where the board can be raised.
Nels
>I believe the correct "nautical term" is "loft" and not "attic" - as
> Thanks Mark and Kristine,
> I'll try the silcone on the hook and see if that helps also i may haul
> and old window unit into the attic and run it for a few hours before i
> start sewing again to try and solidify the goo.
> Thanks Again,
> Jason
>
in "sail loft":-D
Do you recall any of your conversation with Susanne Altenburger about
the suitability of MICRO NAV vs. LM NAV? Seems to me she felt the LM
was the better choice for longer ocean trips and the MICRO OK for
shorter jaunts, the main reason being the hull speed potential. But
can't recall if there were other reasons? Obviously room for more
stores in LM would be another.
I think she also warned about slowing down to avoid surfing and
potentially broaching. But sounds like Roger Keyes did some surfing in
Paloma but admitted it was kind of nerve wracking.
A full length keel on a short WL is more prone to getting knocked
sideways by a following sea from what I hear, compared to a
centerboarder where the board can be raised.
Nels
Thanks Mark and Kristine,
I'll try the silcone on the hook and see if that helps also i may haul
and old window unit into the attic and run it for a few hours before i
start sewing again to try and solidify the goo.
Thanks Again,
Jason
I'll try the silcone on the hook and see if that helps also i may haul
and old window unit into the attic and run it for a few hours before i
start sewing again to try and solidify the goo.
Thanks Again,
Jason
Jason yes the heat does cause the basting tape to get
soft. You can clean up the needle and try some silcone
lube on it to keep the goo from sticking to if.
Also I think your last statement could also be part of
is as well! You get what you pay for.
Blessings Krissie
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soft. You can clean up the needle and try some silcone
lube on it to keep the goo from sticking to if.
Also I think your last statement could also be part of
is as well! You get what you pay for.
Blessings Krissie
--- Jason Stancil <jasonstancil@...> wrote:
> Hey folks i'm sewing a new sail for a june bug and____________________________________________________________________________________
> am having some
> problems.
>
> I'm sewing up in the attic where it's hot. I think
> the glue in the
> basting tape is getting soft and gooey from the heat
> putting drag on
> the bobbing and causing the needle thread to break.
> Went almost ok for
> the foot and broadseams but has since come to a
> hault...
>
> Anyone had something like this happen to them
> before?....suggestions?
>
> I've done the tyvek and the poly tarp thing in the
> past, but i find
> them foul looking. so i'm trying in traditonal
> canvas this time
> around. It's not as easy as some of the articles
> i've read make it
> sound.......then again i couldn't sew my way out of
> a paper sack and
> my machine is the spawn of satan (5 bucks at a
> yardsale).
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
>
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Jason,
Depending on what type of seam tape you are using and what type of
machine, it is often the case that small home machines gum up from the
seam tape adhesive. The needle gets sticky and the hook that rotates
around the bobbin gets sticky and the whole process stops. If this is
the case, you need to clean all the goo off the moving parts around the
needle and bobbin assembly. Some people have told me that then then
spray these parts with a release such as silicone lubricant to keep the
goo from building up too fast.
Mark
Depending on what type of seam tape you are using and what type of
machine, it is often the case that small home machines gum up from the
seam tape adhesive. The needle gets sticky and the hook that rotates
around the bobbin gets sticky and the whole process stops. If this is
the case, you need to clean all the goo off the moving parts around the
needle and bobbin assembly. Some people have told me that then then
spray these parts with a release such as silicone lubricant to keep the
goo from building up too fast.
Mark
On Jun 8, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Jason Stancil wrote:
> Hey folks i'm sewing a new sail for a june bug and am having some
> problems.
>
> I'm sewing up in the attic where it's hot. I think the glue in the
> basting tape is getting soft and gooey from the heat putting drag on
> the bobbing and causing the needle thread to break. Went almost ok for
> the foot and broadseams but has since come to a hault...
>
> Anyone had something like this happen to them before?....suggestions?
>
> I've done the tyvek and the poly tarp thing in the past, but i find
> them foul looking. so i'm trying in traditonal canvas this time
> around. It's not as easy as some of the articles i've read make it
> sound.......then again i couldn't sew my way out of a paper sack and
> my machine is the spawn of satan (5 bucks at a yardsale).
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
>
>
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Hey folks i'm sewing a new sail for a june bug and am having some
problems.
I'm sewing up in the attic where it's hot. I think the glue in the
basting tape is getting soft and gooey from the heat putting drag on
the bobbing and causing the needle thread to break. Went almost ok for
the foot and broadseams but has since come to a hault...
Anyone had something like this happen to them before?....suggestions?
I've done the tyvek and the poly tarp thing in the past, but i find
them foul looking. so i'm trying in traditonal canvas this time
around. It's not as easy as some of the articles i've read make it
sound.......then again i couldn't sew my way out of a paper sack and
my machine is the spawn of satan (5 bucks at a yardsale).
Thanks,
Jason
problems.
I'm sewing up in the attic where it's hot. I think the glue in the
basting tape is getting soft and gooey from the heat putting drag on
the bobbing and causing the needle thread to break. Went almost ok for
the foot and broadseams but has since come to a hault...
Anyone had something like this happen to them before?....suggestions?
I've done the tyvek and the poly tarp thing in the past, but i find
them foul looking. so i'm trying in traditonal canvas this time
around. It's not as easy as some of the articles i've read make it
sound.......then again i couldn't sew my way out of a paper sack and
my machine is the spawn of satan (5 bucks at a yardsale).
Thanks,
Jason