Re: [bolger] Re: Windsprint Rigging was:Thinking Micro...]
Ed:
Sincere thanks for responding to my inquiry.
I've got the 1999 Jamestown catalog, but cannot find what I
mean. The nice bronze gudgeons pictured on page 65 seem
suitable for transoms. The big hole is across the short axis
of the plate, with the smallest plates 3" x 5/8ths. The
face of a Windsprint sternpost is not so big. Bending them
over seemed an unlikely course, because the inner pair of
holes are right next to the pintle socket.
The "Payson eyebolts" do work well.
We two are not the only ones who thought the right thing
ought to be available. If anybody wants to make their first
million going into production with these and with the nice,
squarish, offset Bolger design oarlocks again, well, here's
the chance!
Mark
Ed Heins wrote:
Sincere thanks for responding to my inquiry.
I've got the 1999 Jamestown catalog, but cannot find what I
mean. The nice bronze gudgeons pictured on page 65 seem
suitable for transoms. The big hole is across the short axis
of the plate, with the smallest plates 3" x 5/8ths. The
face of a Windsprint sternpost is not so big. Bending them
over seemed an unlikely course, because the inner pair of
holes are right next to the pintle socket.
The "Payson eyebolts" do work well.
We two are not the only ones who thought the right thing
ought to be available. If anybody wants to make their first
million going into production with these and with the nice,
squarish, offset Bolger design oarlocks again, well, here's
the chance!
Mark
Ed Heins wrote:
>
> Pintles & Gudgeons: Jamestown Distributors carries them. Several different
> sizes.
Pintles & Gudgeons: Jamestown Distributors carries them. Several different
sizes.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Albanese <marka@...>
To:bolger@egroups.com<bolger@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 22, 2000 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Windsprint Rigging was:Thinking Micro...]
sizes.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Albanese <marka@...>
To:bolger@egroups.com<bolger@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 22, 2000 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Windsprint Rigging was:Thinking Micro...]
>David,
>
>If you or anyone knows where to find real pintles and
>gudgeons to fit a small doublender, please let me know.
>
>I was darned if I could find them locally or in any of the
>catalogs. They're all oriented so the gudgeon holes are
>wrong. Thinking that bending the tabs could make a mess, I
>reverted to Instant Boat plan with eyebolts, and instead of
>wood or metal rodding, just put in a couple of bolts at the
>water's edge. If I run across them the right size, a couple
>of sheer pins and keepers would be nice.
>
>If the eyebolts on the stock fit between those on the
>sternpost, the assembly won't go up or down.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
>
>
>David Jost wrote:
>>The only problem I could foresee with attaching the
>> sheet to the rudder is to have the rudder pop out of the gudgeons due to
>> the lack of a rudder stop to prevent this from happening.
>>
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David,
If you or anyone knows where to find real pintles and
gudgeons to fit a small doublender, please let me know.
I was darned if I could find them locally or in any of the
catalogs. They're all oriented so the gudgeon holes are
wrong. Thinking that bending the tabs could make a mess, I
reverted to Instant Boat plan with eyebolts, and instead of
wood or metal rodding, just put in a couple of bolts at the
water's edge. If I run across them the right size, a couple
of sheer pins and keepers would be nice.
If the eyebolts on the stock fit between those on the
sternpost, the assembly won't go up or down.
Thanks,
Mark
David Jost wrote:
If you or anyone knows where to find real pintles and
gudgeons to fit a small doublender, please let me know.
I was darned if I could find them locally or in any of the
catalogs. They're all oriented so the gudgeon holes are
wrong. Thinking that bending the tabs could make a mess, I
reverted to Instant Boat plan with eyebolts, and instead of
wood or metal rodding, just put in a couple of bolts at the
water's edge. If I run across them the right size, a couple
of sheer pins and keepers would be nice.
If the eyebolts on the stock fit between those on the
sternpost, the assembly won't go up or down.
Thanks,
Mark
David Jost wrote:
>The only problem I could foresee with attaching the
> sheet to the rudder is to have the rudder pop out of the gudgeons due to
> the lack of a rudder stop to prevent this from happening.
>
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With a little adrenalin, and some feature in the stern to tie to, and
something to tie with (even a shoelace), the boat can be steered with
an oar lashed to the boat in the middle (or maybe a little toward
the
inboard end). Doesn't work as well as a rudder, but works better than
nothing. This is how I tested our latest boat before we had the
hardware to install the gudgeons, tho I admit I didn't use a shoelace
and I did the lashing on shore. Stayed out for an hour with only a
little arm fatigue (and we have heavy weather helm).
Of course rowing with them is probably even better in many cases.
What, you're going out without oars?
something to tie with (even a shoelace), the boat can be steered with
an oar lashed to the boat in the middle (or maybe a little toward
the
inboard end). Doesn't work as well as a rudder, but works better than
nothing. This is how I tested our latest boat before we had the
hardware to install the gudgeons, tho I admit I didn't use a shoelace
and I did the lashing on shore. Stayed out for an hour with only a
little arm fatigue (and we have heavy weather helm).
Of course rowing with them is probably even better in many cases.
What, you're going out without oars?
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
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> Had the rudder popped while I was still on the sound, most likely
> foolish pride would have made me try to get it back in rather than
> start blowing my whistle at passing boats. She'd be at the bottom
of
> Block Island sound rather than in my driveway.
>
> snip
>Having the rudder pop out has been a (minor) problem for me in the rudderWhen I made my epic voyage around the point in my teal, I was lucky
>mounted sheet on Gypsy. Stops are the obvious solution but ont yet
>installed. BTW popping out only happens when really pinching a close reach
>in good winds.
enough to not have the rudder pop until I was in sheltered water.
With my weight in the teal's pinched stern, it's almost impossible to
get the rudder on from inside the boat without sinking it.
Had the rudder popped while I was still on the sound, most likely
foolish pride would have made me try to get it back in rather than
start blowing my whistle at passing boats. She'd be at the bottom of
Block Island sound rather than in my driveway.
Get your stops installed ;-)
YIBB,
David
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Having the rudder pop out has been a (minor) problem for me in the rudder
mounted sheet on Gypsy. Stops are the obvious solution but ont yet
installed. BTW popping out only happens when really pinching a close reach
in good winds.
mounted sheet on Gypsy. Stops are the obvious solution but ont yet
installed. BTW popping out only happens when really pinching a close reach
in good winds.
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 7:48 AM
> To:bolger@egroups.com
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Windsprint Rigging was:Thinking Micro...]
>
> Classic stern sheeting puts the leverage in a great location so that
> extra blocks etc... are not necessary. The Enterprise and a host of
> other racing dinghies have used this approach successfully. The Cape
> Cod Frosty has its sheet controlled off the rudder, but many sailors
> in
> the fleet have chosen to make a bridle on the stern deck so that they
> can control the point of trim more closely when racing (an 1/8 kt is
> an
> 1/8 knot!). The only problem I could foresee with attaching the
> sheet
> to the rudder is to have the rudder pop out of the gudgeons due to
> the
> lack of a rudder stop to prevent this from happening.
>
>
>
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