Re: [bolger] Re: Topaz Repairs Again
A 3 pound sheepshead, that's a great dinner.
Rhett Davis wrote:
Rhett Davis wrote:
> Nels,[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> I was also amazed. I don't usually worry so much about fairing and
> finishing, going for watertight and not much else.
> I sanded back the bottom around 2 1/2 inches around the patch to the
> original epoxy and glass layer with a coarse sandpaper (80 grit). The
> fairing was achieved in three parts. First the fiberglass coth patch
> which
> was the same shape as the cut out only 2 inches bigger all around, and
> strips of 6 oz tape epoxied over that. The next day a layer of wood flour
> thickened epoxy was applied over that and a piece of thick plastic (some
> type of backing sheet material my wife had) was stapled over the patch
> and I
> smoothed the surface working out as many of the air bubbles under the
> plastic as possible. The next day after removing the sheet I filled
> whatever air bubbles still existing on the surface with a little epoxy
> paste
> and then painted over the whole thing with unthickened epoxy.
> Then I sanded and primed and painted. The plastic thing worked
> wonderfully.
> Any thick (1/16") plastic sheeting which flexes yet still springs back to
> it's original shape works wonders for fairing .
> The boat went back in the water yesterday and we took the grandson
> fishing.
> My wife caught a 3 lb sheephead and the rest of us caught nothing. It
> was a
>
>
>
>
Nels,
I was also amazed. I don't usually worry so much about fairing and
finishing, going for watertight and not much else.
I sanded back the bottom around 2 1/2 inches around the patch to the
original epoxy and glass layer with a coarse sandpaper (80 grit). The
fairing was achieved in three parts. First the fiberglass coth patch which
was the same shape as the cut out only 2 inches bigger all around, and
strips of 6 oz tape epoxied over that. The next day a layer of wood flour
thickened epoxy was applied over that and a piece of thick plastic (some
type of backing sheet material my wife had) was stapled over the patch and I
smoothed the surface working out as many of the air bubbles under the
plastic as possible. The next day after removing the sheet I filled
whatever air bubbles still existing on the surface with a little epoxy paste
and then painted over the whole thing with unthickened epoxy.
Then I sanded and primed and painted. The plastic thing worked wonderfully.
Any thick (1/16") plastic sheeting which flexes yet still springs back to
it's original shape works wonders for fairing .
The boat went back in the water yesterday and we took the grandson fishing.
My wife caught a 3 lb sheephead and the rest of us caught nothing. It was a
wonderful day for us. Upon return I noted only one tiny spot of peeling,
not near the patch at all, but where I had repainted another worn off area
caused by the bunks on the trailer. I will repaint there again.
We just couldn't wait for the paint to dry and cure properly, so we will pay
the price and have to touch the hull up a little bit.
I was also amazed. I don't usually worry so much about fairing and
finishing, going for watertight and not much else.
I sanded back the bottom around 2 1/2 inches around the patch to the
original epoxy and glass layer with a coarse sandpaper (80 grit). The
fairing was achieved in three parts. First the fiberglass coth patch which
was the same shape as the cut out only 2 inches bigger all around, and
strips of 6 oz tape epoxied over that. The next day a layer of wood flour
thickened epoxy was applied over that and a piece of thick plastic (some
type of backing sheet material my wife had) was stapled over the patch and I
smoothed the surface working out as many of the air bubbles under the
plastic as possible. The next day after removing the sheet I filled
whatever air bubbles still existing on the surface with a little epoxy paste
and then painted over the whole thing with unthickened epoxy.
Then I sanded and primed and painted. The plastic thing worked wonderfully.
Any thick (1/16") plastic sheeting which flexes yet still springs back to
it's original shape works wonders for fairing .
The boat went back in the water yesterday and we took the grandson fishing.
My wife caught a 3 lb sheephead and the rest of us caught nothing. It was a
wonderful day for us. Upon return I noted only one tiny spot of peeling,
not near the patch at all, but where I had repainted another worn off area
caused by the bunks on the trailer. I will repaint there again.
We just couldn't wait for the paint to dry and cure properly, so we will pay
the price and have to touch the hull up a little bit.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nels" <arvent@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:33 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Topaz Repairs Again
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "ravenouspi" <ravenous@...> wrote:
>>
>> I added a few new photos of the repair process at FLICKR
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/75097333@N00/sets/961420/
>> if anyone is interested.
>
> Amazed by the final results!
>
> I can't imagine how difficult it must have been to get at that area of
> the hull to work on it! How did you get the glass to stick to the hull
> and how did you get it faired in so nicely?
>
> Nels
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "ravenouspi" <ravenous@...> wrote:
I can't imagine how difficult it must have been to get at that area of
the hull to work on it! How did you get the glass to stick to the hull
and how did you get it faired in so nicely?
Nels
>Amazed by the final results!
> I added a few new photos of the repair process at FLICKR
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/75097333@N00/sets/961420/
> if anyone is interested.
I can't imagine how difficult it must have been to get at that area of
the hull to work on it! How did you get the glass to stick to the hull
and how did you get it faired in so nicely?
Nels
Wow, you do pretty work. I wonder if this whole
(hole?) problem doesn't relate back to my poking a
hole in the nose at about that spot getting her off
her original, unlamented trailer. Anyway, good
luck--I hope whatever breaks next is somewhere else.
Sam
--- ravenouspi <ravenous@...> wrote:
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(hole?) problem doesn't relate back to my poking a
hole in the nose at about that spot getting her off
her original, unlamented trailer. Anyway, good
luck--I hope whatever breaks next is somewhere else.
Sam
--- ravenouspi <ravenous@...> wrote:
> I added a few new photos of the repair process athttp://www.flickr.com/photos/75097333@N00/sets/961420/
> FLICKR
>
> if anyone is interested.____________________________________________________________________________________
>
> I didn't take a photo of every step--as usual get
> obsessively focused
> and forget to take pictures, eat, feed the dog, etc.
> I did sister an additional 1" (thick) by 16" (long)
> piece of hard pine
> to the back of the plywood frame for additional
> support and load
> spreading. I epoxy encapsulated both patch pieces.
> Because of the
> frame I could not join the patch pieces until after
> I inserted the
> larger butt patch above the cut-out. It was
> impossible to get it in
> there with the outside patch attached.
> I used a sheet of mylar like material from my wife's
> scrapbooking
> supplies to make the thickened fairing layer. It
> worked great!. I
> filled the screw holes carefully with thickened
> epoxy (I poked in each
> hole with a toothpick to get the filler up in the
> holes).
> The repair looks great. Another coat of paint or
> three (I put it on
> really thin, hoping to avoid the peeling, sheeting,
> or bubbling that
> latex is prone to), and I think I can get back in
> the water.
> I'll let you all know if the repair fails, but I
> hope I don't have to.
> Just because I don't always follow everyone's
> advice to the letter
> doesn't mean I don't appreciate it, respect it, and
> remember it for
> future reference. Thanks again for all the help.
>
>
TV dinner still cooling?
Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.
http://tv.yahoo.com/
I added a few new photos of the repair process at FLICKR
http://www.flickr.com/photos/75097333@N00/sets/961420/
if anyone is interested.
I didn't take a photo of every step--as usual get obsessively focused
and forget to take pictures, eat, feed the dog, etc.
I did sister an additional 1" (thick) by 16" (long) piece of hard pine
to the back of the plywood frame for additional support and load
spreading. I epoxy encapsulated both patch pieces. Because of the
frame I could not join the patch pieces until after I inserted the
larger butt patch above the cut-out. It was impossible to get it in
there with the outside patch attached.
I used a sheet of mylar like material from my wife's scrapbooking
supplies to make the thickened fairing layer. It worked great!. I
filled the screw holes carefully with thickened epoxy (I poked in each
hole with a toothpick to get the filler up in the holes).
The repair looks great. Another coat of paint or three (I put it on
really thin, hoping to avoid the peeling, sheeting, or bubbling that
latex is prone to), and I think I can get back in the water.
I'll let you all know if the repair fails, but I hope I don't have to.
Just because I don't always follow everyone's advice to the letter
doesn't mean I don't appreciate it, respect it, and remember it for
future reference. Thanks again for all the help.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/75097333@N00/sets/961420/
if anyone is interested.
I didn't take a photo of every step--as usual get obsessively focused
and forget to take pictures, eat, feed the dog, etc.
I did sister an additional 1" (thick) by 16" (long) piece of hard pine
to the back of the plywood frame for additional support and load
spreading. I epoxy encapsulated both patch pieces. Because of the
frame I could not join the patch pieces until after I inserted the
larger butt patch above the cut-out. It was impossible to get it in
there with the outside patch attached.
I used a sheet of mylar like material from my wife's scrapbooking
supplies to make the thickened fairing layer. It worked great!. I
filled the screw holes carefully with thickened epoxy (I poked in each
hole with a toothpick to get the filler up in the holes).
The repair looks great. Another coat of paint or three (I put it on
really thin, hoping to avoid the peeling, sheeting, or bubbling that
latex is prone to), and I think I can get back in the water.
I'll let you all know if the repair fails, but I hope I don't have to.
Just because I don't always follow everyone's advice to the letter
doesn't mean I don't appreciate it, respect it, and remember it for
future reference. Thanks again for all the help.