Re: [bolger] Bottom Paint
Had a fiberglass boat that lived on a trailer or in fresh water, no bottom
paint. In the fast river water weeds weren't a problem. Spent up to 4 wks
in Washington State's San Juans - cold salt water. Never felt the need to
bother with paint. Found that it's good but not necessary to wax the hull
before long salt water trips. Also found that it's a real, real good idea
to hose the boat off when you haul it out of salt water, before the light
coat of moss dries. Washes easily before drying, turns to concrete after
drying.
Larry
paint. In the fast river water weeds weren't a problem. Spent up to 4 wks
in Washington State's San Juans - cold salt water. Never felt the need to
bother with paint. Found that it's good but not necessary to wax the hull
before long salt water trips. Also found that it's a real, real good idea
to hose the boat off when you haul it out of salt water, before the light
coat of moss dries. Washes easily before drying, turns to concrete after
drying.
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: <dick@...>
To: <bolger@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:44 AM
Subject: [bolger] Bottom Paint
> If you were hauling a Chebacco onto a trailer most of the time; if
> you sailed in salt mostly but freshwater some of the time...would you
> say that it is still mandatory to paint the bottom with anti-fouling
> goop to keep barnacles and other bottom clingers away?
<snip>
> Dick
Dick wrote:
> > fouling paint wasn't needed...would you think that graphite-loaded
> > epoxy on the bottom might just boost the speed of the boat a bit and
> > be a sensible alternative?
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Chuck Leinweber wrote:
> On the subject of graphite, I doubt you would notice the increase in
> speed due to its application.
True. However, a graphite/epoxy bottom is very nice. I have one on my
Teal. I eases off the cartop nicely, and scoots over obstructions in the
water very nicely. We've put a 1.2hp motor on the Teal, and powered
around the lake. Since it's a man-made, there are still some branches to
run over, and we've been heeled over 15-20 degrees by unseen trees lurking
in the deep, and they leave nary a trace on the graphited bottom.
In addition, it's a nice, permanent black color, and thus needs no paint.
We keep the boat indoors, so we don't worry about UV. It looks good,
works well, and is really about as cheap as buying a quart of exterior
latex paint. I recommend it.
I would pass on the bottom paint if the boat is in the water less than two
weeks at a time. The graphite won't help enough to notice unless you are
racing (order of 1/10 knot at best).
Don Hodges
weeks at a time. The graphite won't help enough to notice unless you are
racing (order of 1/10 knot at best).
Don Hodges
----- Original Message -----
From: <dick@...>
To: <bolger@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 5:44 AM
Subject: [bolger] Bottom Paint
> If you were hauling a Chebacco onto a trailer most of the time; if
> you sailed in salt mostly but freshwater some of the time...would you
> say that it is still mandatory to paint the bottom with anti-fouling
> goop to keep barnacles and other bottom clingers away? If the anti-
> fouling paint wasn't needed...would you think that graphite-loaded
> epoxy on the bottom might just boost the speed of the boat a bit and
> be a sensible alternative?
>
> Dick
>
>
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VC-17/teflon is ideal for dry-sailed boats - if you feel like you need a
little anti-fouling for long weekends, etc.
Gregg Carlson
little anti-fouling for long weekends, etc.
Gregg Carlson
>Dick:
>
>In my opinion, no trailer boat needs antifouling paint. The mere act of
>drying out the boat will kill most marine growth. In addition, depending on
>the temperature of the water, it may take weeks or months for it to be a
>problem in the first place. Some captains use the method of taking their
>boats into fresh water to kill the growth that forms in salt water, or vice
>versa.
>
>On the subject of graphite, I doubt you would notice the increase in speed
>due to its application.
>
>Chuck
>
>> If you were hauling a Chebacco onto a trailer most of the time; if
>> you sailed in salt mostly but freshwater some of the time...would you
>> say that it is still mandatory to paint the bottom with anti-fouling
>> goop to keep barnacles and other bottom clingers away? If the anti-
>> fouling paint wasn't needed...would you think that graphite-loaded
>> epoxy on the bottom might just boost the speed of the boat a bit and
>> be a sensible alternative?
>>
>> Dick
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Dick -
If you want opinions, here's mine.
Depends on what "most of the time" means. If you mean the boat lives on the
trailer, except for the month of August, where it lives in salt water, then
you need anti-fouling. If you mean the boat lives on the trailer, except
for an occassional overnight, then you can pass on the goop.
Do not take freshwater fouling too lightly. If you let it dry on the hull
after you put the boat back on the trailer, you'll wish you hadn't.
I can't imagine that a slick bottom (assuming an otherwise un-fouled
surface) would make a measurable speed difference in a Chebacco, but it
would probably be easy to keep clean.
David
dick@...wrote:
If you want opinions, here's mine.
Depends on what "most of the time" means. If you mean the boat lives on the
trailer, except for the month of August, where it lives in salt water, then
you need anti-fouling. If you mean the boat lives on the trailer, except
for an occassional overnight, then you can pass on the goop.
Do not take freshwater fouling too lightly. If you let it dry on the hull
after you put the boat back on the trailer, you'll wish you hadn't.
I can't imagine that a slick bottom (assuming an otherwise un-fouled
surface) would make a measurable speed difference in a Chebacco, but it
would probably be easy to keep clean.
David
dick@...wrote:
> If you were hauling a Chebacco onto a trailer most of the time; if
> you sailed in salt mostly but freshwater some of the time...would you
> say that it is still mandatory to paint the bottom with anti-fouling
> goop to keep barnacles and other bottom clingers away? If the anti-
> fouling paint wasn't needed...would you think that graphite-loaded
> epoxy on the bottom might just boost the speed of the boat a bit and
> be a sensible alternative?
>
> Dick
>
Dick:
In my opinion, no trailer boat needs antifouling paint. The mere act of
drying out the boat will kill most marine growth. In addition, depending on
the temperature of the water, it may take weeks or months for it to be a
problem in the first place. Some captains use the method of taking their
boats into fresh water to kill the growth that forms in salt water, or vice
versa.
On the subject of graphite, I doubt you would notice the increase in speed
due to its application.
Chuck
In my opinion, no trailer boat needs antifouling paint. The mere act of
drying out the boat will kill most marine growth. In addition, depending on
the temperature of the water, it may take weeks or months for it to be a
problem in the first place. Some captains use the method of taking their
boats into fresh water to kill the growth that forms in salt water, or vice
versa.
On the subject of graphite, I doubt you would notice the increase in speed
due to its application.
Chuck
> If you were hauling a Chebacco onto a trailer most of the time; if
> you sailed in salt mostly but freshwater some of the time...would you
> say that it is still mandatory to paint the bottom with anti-fouling
> goop to keep barnacles and other bottom clingers away? If the anti-
> fouling paint wasn't needed...would you think that graphite-loaded
> epoxy on the bottom might just boost the speed of the boat a bit and
> be a sensible alternative?
>
> Dick
>
>
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