Re: Staysail Schooner Rig
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, David Ryan <david@...> wrote:
Nels:-)
>Yeah - The idea of tanbark tyvek sails just seems *WRONG* somehow.
>
> On Jun 20, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Bruce Hallman wrote:
>
> >> I would consider using tyvek.
> >
> > But David has a point. Dumpster diving at the marina can easily find
> > plenty of perfectly good 'used' sails to be cut up and reused.
>
> The first suit of sails I had for my scooner were made in less than a
> day, each cut from places in larger sails that more or less had the
> shape I needed. Folded the edged over some fiberglass carpet tape,
> put some grommets in, laced 'em on and went sailing!
>
Nels:-)
On Jun 20, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Bruce Hallman wrote:
day, each cut from places in larger sails that more or less had the
shape I needed. Folded the edged over some fiberglass carpet tape,
put some grommets in, laced 'em on and went sailing!
>> I would consider using tyvek.The first suit of sails I had for my scooner were made in less than a
>
> But David has a point. Dumpster diving at the marina can easily find
> plenty of perfectly good 'used' sails to be cut up and reused.
day, each cut from places in larger sails that more or less had the
shape I needed. Folded the edged over some fiberglass carpet tape,
put some grommets in, laced 'em on and went sailing!
> I would consider using tyvek.But David has a point. Dumpster diving at the marina can easily find
plenty of perfectly good 'used' sails to be cut up and reused.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, David Ryan <david@...> wrote:
resistant colors now, but have not located a source.
Nels
> The obvious answer is to lengthen the sprit to get the jib out of theBed-sailing a topsail schooner:
> shadow, and then at a topsail to the mainmast to keep the rig balanced!
>
>http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger6/photos/browse/9448<Which reminds me of a poem I learned as a kid:-)
>http://www.lnstar.com/mall/literature/rls/LandofCounterpane.htm<I would consider using tyvek. It is supposed to be available in uv
resistant colors now, but have not located a source.
Nels
On Jun 20, 2007, at 2:02 PM, lordborrolan wrote:
the foremast will shadow the jib.
The obvious answer is to lengthen the sprit to get the jib out of the
shadow, and then at a topsail to the mainmast to keep the rig balanced!
> A square topsail sounds great, I'll certainly try it, as you say itMy guess is that any self respecting square sail on the lower part of
> needn't be an expensive venture, and who knows, I may find an
> obscure old fashioned rig that works fantastic for me, how about a
> brigantine, (all square on the foremast), no worrying gybes.
the foremast will shadow the jib.
The obvious answer is to lengthen the sprit to get the jib out of the
shadow, and then at a topsail to the mainmast to keep the rig balanced!
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, David Ryan <david@...> wrote:
needn't be an expensive venture, and who knows, I may find an
obscure old fashioned rig that works fantastic for me, how about a
brigantine, (all square on the foremast), no worrying gybes.
>effect
>
> On Jun 20, 2007, at 1:36 PM, Bruce Hallman wrote:
>
> > On 6/20/07, lordborrolan <lordborrolan@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Guy's, Can anyone tell me if a staysail rig on the Folding
> >> Schooner
> >> would make it more "single handed" friendly, and what sort of
> >> it may have on heeling, and performance, (more or less). Kevthe
> >
> > I don't see how adding even more sheets can help. I recall Phil
> > Bolger writing somewhere that the Folding Schooner can be single
> > handed, by using just a single sail, the mainsail.
>
> Don't listen to Bruce! I used to single hand my light scooner all
> time, and it has more sail and less carrying power than thefolding
> schooner.money.
>
> It's very very easy to get old sails, either cheap or for no
> Add carpet tape and a grommetting kit and there's no end to thefor a
> variety of rigs you can mount on those two masts! (My vote goes
> square topsail on the foremast!)A square topsail sounds great, I'll certainly try it, as you say it
>
> Try out your idea and tell us how it works!
>
needn't be an expensive venture, and who knows, I may find an
obscure old fashioned rig that works fantastic for me, how about a
brigantine, (all square on the foremast), no worrying gybes.
On Jun 20, 2007, at 1:36 PM, Bruce Hallman wrote:
time, and it has more sail and less carrying power than the folding
schooner.
It's very very easy to get old sails, either cheap or for no money.
Add carpet tape and a grommetting kit and there's no end to the
variety of rigs you can mount on those two masts! (My vote goes for a
square topsail on the foremast!)
Try out your idea and tell us how it works!
> On 6/20/07, lordborrolan <lordborrolan@...> wrote:Don't listen to Bruce! I used to single hand my light scooner all the
>>
>> Hi Guy's, Can anyone tell me if a staysail rig on the Folding
>> Schooner
>> would make it more "single handed" friendly, and what sort of effect
>> it may have on heeling, and performance, (more or less). Kev
>
> I don't see how adding even more sheets can help. I recall Phil
> Bolger writing somewhere that the Folding Schooner can be single
> handed, by using just a single sail, the mainsail.
time, and it has more sail and less carrying power than the folding
schooner.
It's very very easy to get old sails, either cheap or for no money.
Add carpet tape and a grommetting kit and there's no end to the
variety of rigs you can mount on those two masts! (My vote goes for a
square topsail on the foremast!)
Try out your idea and tell us how it works!
On 6/20/07, lordborrolan <lordborrolan@...> wrote:
Bolger writing somewhere that the Folding Schooner can be single
handed, by using just a single sail, the mainsail.
>I don't see how adding even more sheets can help. I recall Phil
> Hi Guy's, Can anyone tell me if a staysail rig on the Folding Schooner
> would make it more "single handed" friendly, and what sort of effect
> it may have on heeling, and performance, (more or less). Kev
Bolger writing somewhere that the Folding Schooner can be single
handed, by using just a single sail, the mainsail.
Hi Guy's, Can anyone tell me if a staysail rig on the Folding Schooner
would make it more "single handed" friendly, and what sort of effect
it may have on heeling, and performance, (more or less). Kev
would make it more "single handed" friendly, and what sort of effect
it may have on heeling, and performance, (more or less). Kev