Re: [bolger] Low Power Semi-Planing Hulls
Nels isn't building it, Ken is-- in the Philippines. According to Ken
the Seabright Tolman has not been launched yet, he and Renn are
finishing up the first two. There are plans available as an addition to
Tolman's latest book. If you go down a bit on this link you will see it
mentioned.
http://www.fishyfish.com/tolmanskiff.html
Kristine you have a bad case of Bruce Halmanitus, you want to build
every Bolger boat you see. If you want to build a low power semi
planning hull then next winter you could whip out a Tennessee in 4
months, ( if you have a helper) good solution for the Puget sound area.
http://www.boatdesign.com/jumps/dixtenn/Page.html
HJ
Kristine Bennett wrote:
the Seabright Tolman has not been launched yet, he and Renn are
finishing up the first two. There are plans available as an addition to
Tolman's latest book. If you go down a bit on this link you will see it
mentioned.
http://www.fishyfish.com/tolmanskiff.html
Kristine you have a bad case of Bruce Halmanitus, you want to build
every Bolger boat you see. If you want to build a low power semi
planning hull then next winter you could whip out a Tennessee in 4
months, ( if you have a helper) good solution for the Puget sound area.
http://www.boatdesign.com/jumps/dixtenn/Page.html
HJ
Kristine Bennett wrote:
> I've see a few of the Tolman skiffs in Alaska over the
> years I was up there some were setup for power
> trolling.
>
>
>> Also Ken Grome is designing one that uses a small
>> air-cooled diesel
>> inboard I believe. You are probably also familiar
>> with the Tolman skiffs.
>>
>>
>
> I like to looks of the hull you are working on Nel. So
> is there a website I can go to so I can find out more
> about Tolman's Seabright Skiff? How big is the skiff
> you are building?
>
> Blessing Krissie
>
>
>
I've see a few of the Tolman skiffs in Alaska over the
years I was up there some were setup for power
trolling.
is there a website I can go to so I can find out more
about Tolman's Seabright Skiff? How big is the skiff
you are building?
Blessing Krissie
Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
years I was up there some were setup for power
trolling.
> Also Ken Grome is designing one that uses a smallI like to looks of the hull you are working on Nel. So
> air-cooled diesel
> inboard I believe. You are probably also familiar
> with the Tolman skiffs.
>
is there a website I can go to so I can find out more
about Tolman's Seabright Skiff? How big is the skiff
you are building?
Blessing Krissie
> I have some pictures online of the Tolman Seabrighthttp://www.bagacayboatworks.com/images/seabright02/index.php
> Skiff I am currently
> building as well. It is still upside down but that's
> a "good thing"
> because
> it clearly shows the aft bottom tunnel portion of
> the hull:
>
>
>____________________________________________________________________________________
>
>
Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
The more I look at the Bonefish the more I like the
little boat. Does anyone know if plans were ever drawn
up for it in plywood?
Also looking at the Bonefish it would not be that hard
to set it up for outboard use.
Blessings Krissie
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little boat. Does anyone know if plans were ever drawn
up for it in plywood?
Also looking at the Bonefish it would not be that hard
to set it up for outboard use.
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Grome <bagacayboatworks@...>
wrote:
Here is a link to some great photos of a model of Atkins'Rescue
Minor
http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Photos/RescueMinor/index.html
<http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Photos/RescueMinor/index.html>
The late Robb White build a modified version and writes:
"In case you have never read about the boat, I'll give youthe
specs: It is twenty feet long and 76" wide. It is strip built out of
tulippoplar and is powered by a three cylinder Kubota Diesel tractor
engine rated at20 hp. It will run 20 knots in six inches of water and
gets about 28.6 nauticalmiles per gallon of Diesel fuel running at its
most economical speed of 10.5 knots."
http://www.robbwhite.com/rescue.minor.html
<http://www.robbwhite.com/rescue.minor.html>
Those photos at Robb's site are very intriguing.
Nels
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wrote:
> Personally I like the Beta marine engine / transmission package, it isbased
> on a Kubota engine. Others claim that it costs a lot but it isprobably
> worth it, especially if the boat will be put to commercial use. Iwould
> prefer a diesel for any commercial use to tell the truth, they aresimply
> more reliable than gas engines .http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Utilities/RescueMinor.html
Here is a link to some great photos of a model of Atkins'Rescue
Minor
http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Photos/RescueMinor/index.html
<http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Photos/RescueMinor/index.html>
The late Robb White build a modified version and writes:
"In case you have never read about the boat, I'll give youthe
specs: It is twenty feet long and 76" wide. It is strip built out of
tulippoplar and is powered by a three cylinder Kubota Diesel tractor
engine rated at20 hp. It will run 20 knots in six inches of water and
gets about 28.6 nauticalmiles per gallon of Diesel fuel running at its
most economical speed of 10.5 knots."
http://www.robbwhite.com/rescue.minor.html
<http://www.robbwhite.com/rescue.minor.html>
Those photos at Robb's site are very intriguing.
Nels
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Ken
What are you going to use for power?
HJ
Kenneth Grome wrote:
What are you going to use for power?
HJ
Kenneth Grome wrote:
> Hi Harry,
>
> Renn Tolman just started selling plans for his Seabright model a couple weeks
> ago, so it's no wonder people don't know about it yet.
>
> I'm the first builder after Renn, and his prototype isn't even finished yet,
> so no one really know how it will handle if the truth be told. Hopefully it
> will work like he thinks it will ... :)
>
> Sincerely,
> Ken Grome
> Bagacay Boatworks
> www.bagacayboatworks.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Nels
>>
>> I hadn't realized that Tolman had designed a Sebright style skiff.
>>
>> I got confused there between the link and you. Are you the Nels that
>> lives in Juneau?
>>
>> HJ
>>
>> Nels wrote:
>>
>>> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nels
>>>>
>>>> Is that Tolman Seabright for inboard power?
>>>>
>>>> HJ
>>>>
>>> Yes, I will ask what size/weight/type of engine. I am sure it will be
>>> an air-cooled diesel, since that is mostly what is used where he is.
>>> (Phillipines.)
>>>
>>> He is also planning to install a protective shoe below the prop and
>>> rudder like the Atkinco Shoals Runner, from which I quote.
>>>
>>> "It will be noticed that the protecting shoe beneath the propeller
>>> extends from the bottom of the keel to a point about 9" up on the
>>> stern. The propeller and rudder are between the shoe and the bottom of
>>> the horn timber, and therefore exceptionally well protected whether
>>> the boat is going forward or astern. This is an ideal arrangement for
>>> keeping clear of underwater lines of all kinds, as well as dinghy
>>> painters, dock lines, etc."
>>>
>>> Nels
>>>
>
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> What are you going to use for power?Whatever the buyer wants me to use ... :)
Personally I like the Beta marine engine / transmission package, it is based
on a Kubota engine. Others claim that it costs a lot but it is probably
worth it, especially if the boat will be put to commercial use. I would
prefer a diesel for any commercial use to tell the truth, they are simply
more reliable than gas engines .
For pleasure use I've considered several options, one being twin 10 HP
industrial air-cooled diesel engines, each spinning its own shaft and
propeller. These engines are cheap and easy to fix and replace, so this
would be a great way to have total drive system redundancy if you're the type
who wants a backup engine "just in case".
I've also looked at gasonline engines from Kohler, Kawasaki, Rotax, Briggs and
Stratton, Honda, etc. and other diesels from Lombardini, Yanmar, etc. but
it's the transmission that's harder to get than the engine. The big question
is "Do you need reverse or not?" because not needing reverse makes the power
system cost a lot less since you don't need a transmission.
Robb White rigged up his own transmission based on a lawn tractor and at first
it had reverse but then when reverse broke he never bothered to fix it
because he said he never used it anyways. People who use their boats in
proximity to other boats or in tight spaces such as harbors and such might
have more use for reverse, but there's always the cheap and
ubiquitous "electric trolling motor" for reverse if it is actually that
important.
Sincerely,
Ken Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
www.bagacayboatworks.com
Nels
I hadn't realized that Tolman had designed a Sebright style skiff.
I got confused there between the link and you. Are you the Nels that
lives in Juneau?
HJ
Nels wrote:
I hadn't realized that Tolman had designed a Sebright style skiff.
I got confused there between the link and you. Are you the Nels that
lives in Juneau?
HJ
Nels wrote:
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
>
>> Nels
>>
>> Is that Tolman Seabright for inboard power?
>>
>> HJ
>>
>
> Yes, I will ask what size/weight/type of engine. I am sure it will be
> an air-cooled diesel, since that is mostly what is used where he is.
> (Phillipines.)
>
> He is also planning to install a protective shoe below the prop and
> rudder like the Atkinco Shoals Runner, from which I quote.
>
> "It will be noticed that the protecting shoe beneath the propeller
> extends from the bottom of the keel to a point about 9" up on the
> stern. The propeller and rudder are between the shoe and the bottom of
> the horn timber, and therefore exceptionally well protected whether
> the boat is going forward or astern. This is an ideal arrangement for
> keeping clear of underwater lines of all kinds, as well as dinghy
> painters, dock lines, etc."
>
> Nels
>
>
>
>
Hi Harry,
Renn Tolman just started selling plans for his Seabright model a couple weeks
ago, so it's no wonder people don't know about it yet.
I'm the first builder after Renn, and his prototype isn't even finished yet,
so no one really know how it will handle if the truth be told. Hopefully it
will work like he thinks it will ... :)
Sincerely,
Ken Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
www.bagacayboatworks.com
Renn Tolman just started selling plans for his Seabright model a couple weeks
ago, so it's no wonder people don't know about it yet.
I'm the first builder after Renn, and his prototype isn't even finished yet,
so no one really know how it will handle if the truth be told. Hopefully it
will work like he thinks it will ... :)
Sincerely,
Ken Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
www.bagacayboatworks.com
> Nels
>
> I hadn't realized that Tolman had designed a Sebright style skiff.
>
> I got confused there between the link and you. Are you the Nels that
> lives in Juneau?
>
> HJ
>
> Nels wrote:
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
> >> Nels
> >>
> >> Is that Tolman Seabright for inboard power?
> >>
> >> HJ
> >
> > Yes, I will ask what size/weight/type of engine. I am sure it will be
> > an air-cooled diesel, since that is mostly what is used where he is.
> > (Phillipines.)
> >
> > He is also planning to install a protective shoe below the prop and
> > rudder like the Atkinco Shoals Runner, from which I quote.
> >
> > "It will be noticed that the protecting shoe beneath the propeller
> > extends from the bottom of the keel to a point about 9" up on the
> > stern. The propeller and rudder are between the shoe and the bottom of
> > the horn timber, and therefore exceptionally well protected whether
> > the boat is going forward or astern. This is an ideal arrangement for
> > keeping clear of underwater lines of all kinds, as well as dinghy
> > painters, dock lines, etc."
> >
> > Nels
Nels
Is that Tolman Seabright for inboard power?
HJ
Nels wrote:
Is that Tolman Seabright for inboard power?
HJ
Nels wrote:
> Hi Krissie,
>
> You are probably aware of these designs, but here are some links
> anyway that are included in a posting to dwforum
>
> Be sure to check out the articles on "Rescue Minor" at the late Robb
> White's website.
>
> Also Ken Grome is designing one that uses a small air-cooled diesel
> inboard I believe. You are probably also familiar with the Tolman skiffs.
>
> Re: [dwforum] Tunnel-stern Seabright skiff bottom
>
> Here are some from William and John Atkin:
>
>http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Utilities/Heron.html
>http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Utilities/Nibble.html
>http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Utilities/RescueMinor.html
>http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Utilities/Everhope.html
>http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Utilities/ShoalsRunner.html
>
>
> Then there's Robb White's web site where he discusses the features of
> the one
> he built, and has some pictures from just a few years ago:
>
>http://www.robbwhite.com/
>
>
> I have some pictures online of the Tolman Seabright Skiff I am currently
> building as well. It is still upside down but that's a "good thing"
> because
> it clearly shows the aft bottom tunnel portion of the hull:
>
>http://www.bagacayboatworks.com/images/seabright02/index.php
>
>
> Then there is always "google" for other sites with useful info on them:
>
>http://www.google.com.ph/search?hl=en&q=tunnel-stern+seabright+skiff&btnG=Google\
> +Search&meta=
>
> or tiny url:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2lzrv7
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Ken Grome
> Bagacay Boatworks
> www.bagacayboatworks.com
>
>
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
an air-cooled diesel, since that is mostly what is used where he is.
(Phillipines.)
He is also planning to install a protective shoe below the prop and
rudder like the Atkinco Shoals Runner, from which I quote.
"It will be noticed that the protecting shoe beneath the propeller
extends from the bottom of the keel to a point about 9" up on the
stern. The propeller and rudder are between the shoe and the bottom of
the horn timber, and therefore exceptionally well protected whether
the boat is going forward or astern. This is an ideal arrangement for
keeping clear of underwater lines of all kinds, as well as dinghy
painters, dock lines, etc."
Nels
>Yes, I will ask what size/weight/type of engine. I am sure it will be
> Nels
>
> Is that Tolman Seabright for inboard power?
>
> HJ
an air-cooled diesel, since that is mostly what is used where he is.
(Phillipines.)
He is also planning to install a protective shoe below the prop and
rudder like the Atkinco Shoals Runner, from which I quote.
"It will be noticed that the protecting shoe beneath the propeller
extends from the bottom of the keel to a point about 9" up on the
stern. The propeller and rudder are between the shoe and the bottom of
the horn timber, and therefore exceptionally well protected whether
the boat is going forward or astern. This is an ideal arrangement for
keeping clear of underwater lines of all kinds, as well as dinghy
painters, dock lines, etc."
Nels
Hi Krissie,
You are probably aware of these designs, but here are some links
anyway that are included in a posting to dwforum
Be sure to check out the articles on "Rescue Minor" at the late Robb
White's website.
Also Ken Grome is designing one that uses a small air-cooled diesel
inboard I believe. You are probably also familiar with the Tolman skiffs.
Re: [dwforum] Tunnel-stern Seabright skiff bottom
Here are some from William and John Atkin:
http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Utilities/Heron.html
http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Utilities/Nibble.html
http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Utilities/RescueMinor.html
http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Utilities/Everhope.html
http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Utilities/ShoalsRunner.html
Then there's Robb White's web site where he discusses the features of
the one
he built, and has some pictures from just a few years ago:
http://www.robbwhite.com/
I have some pictures online of the Tolman Seabright Skiff I am currently
building as well. It is still upside down but that's a "good thing"
because
it clearly shows the aft bottom tunnel portion of the hull:
http://www.bagacayboatworks.com/images/seabright02/index.php
Then there is always "google" for other sites with useful info on them:
http://www.google.com.ph/search?hl=en&q=tunnel-stern+seabright+skiff&btnG=Google\
+Search&meta=
or tiny url:
http://tinyurl.com/2lzrv7
Sincerely,
Ken Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
www.bagacayboatworks.com
You are probably aware of these designs, but here are some links
anyway that are included in a posting to dwforum
Be sure to check out the articles on "Rescue Minor" at the late Robb
White's website.
Also Ken Grome is designing one that uses a small air-cooled diesel
inboard I believe. You are probably also familiar with the Tolman skiffs.
Re: [dwforum] Tunnel-stern Seabright skiff bottom
Here are some from William and John Atkin:
http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Utilities/Heron.html
http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Utilities/Nibble.html
http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Utilities/RescueMinor.html
http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Utilities/Everhope.html
http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Utilities/ShoalsRunner.html
Then there's Robb White's web site where he discusses the features of
the one
he built, and has some pictures from just a few years ago:
http://www.robbwhite.com/
I have some pictures online of the Tolman Seabright Skiff I am currently
building as well. It is still upside down but that's a "good thing"
because
it clearly shows the aft bottom tunnel portion of the hull:
http://www.bagacayboatworks.com/images/seabright02/index.php
Then there is always "google" for other sites with useful info on them:
http://www.google.com.ph/search?hl=en&q=tunnel-stern+seabright+skiff&btnG=Google\
+Search&meta=
or tiny url:
http://tinyurl.com/2lzrv7
Sincerely,
Ken Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
www.bagacayboatworks.com