Re: [bolger] Rigging tautness question.
If the mast buckles you know you had the rigging a bit
to tight!!! Yes I have seen that happen twice onces
when they were rigging a boat in the yard and the
other time someone was out sailing in light wind and
down every thing came! We did stop to offer help and
lifted the mast and boom onto their deck with our
crane. We also asked if they needed some bolt cutters
when we got there.
When I was at Marine Service Center I helped rig and
step masts. It's up to each skipper as to how they
like the sails to fill. But seeing how you have no
spreaders I would just tighten them till the cables
are firm and not a lot of slop and then tune from
there.
Sorry I can't be of more help.
Blessings Krissie
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to tight!!! Yes I have seen that happen twice onces
when they were rigging a boat in the yard and the
other time someone was out sailing in light wind and
down every thing came! We did stop to offer help and
lifted the mast and boom onto their deck with our
crane. We also asked if they needed some bolt cutters
when we got there.
When I was at Marine Service Center I helped rig and
step masts. It's up to each skipper as to how they
like the sails to fill. But seeing how you have no
spreaders I would just tighten them till the cables
are firm and not a lot of slop and then tune from
there.
Sorry I can't be of more help.
Blessings Krissie
--- Sam Glasscock <glasscocklanding@...> wrote:
> Here is a question that will sound stupid to the____________________________________________________________________________________
> sailors out there, but has me puzzled. I am
> stepping
> a 20' mast into a 31' motorsailor. The rigging is
> very simple, forestay and two shrouds--no spreaders.
>
> The rig is adjusted with turnbuckes on each stay.
> The
> mast is stepped on the cabin top. There is a
> compression post from the step to the keel.
> Question--how tight should the stays be, and how
> will
> I know when they are properly tightened? I have
> never
> rigged anythig bigger than dinghy size, and any
> advice
> would be most appreciated. Thanks
>
>
>
>
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Nels and Bruce, thanks for the help. I only have a
jib for the boat, a big genoa, but I would like to add
a small steadying-sail main soon. The jib is a
downwind booster/get home insurance rig, it will not
do any windward work and so a tight forestay is not a
priority. I have rigged it for a running backstay for
downwind work, to take some strain off the shrouds.
I'll try her with the stays pretty soft. Thanks
again. Sam
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jib for the boat, a big genoa, but I would like to add
a small steadying-sail main soon. The jib is a
downwind booster/get home insurance rig, it will not
do any windward work and so a tight forestay is not a
priority. I have rigged it for a running backstay for
downwind work, to take some strain off the shrouds.
I'll try her with the stays pretty soft. Thanks
again. Sam
--- Nels <arvent@...> wrote:
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Sam Glasscock____________________________________________________________________________________
> <glasscocklanding@...> wrote:
> >
> > Here is a question that will sound stupid to the
> > sailors out there, but has me puzzled. I am
> stepping
> > a 20' mast into a 31' motorsailor. The rigging is
> > very simple, forestay and two shrouds--no
> spreaders.
> > The rig is adjusted with turnbuckes on each stay.
> The
> > mast is stepped on the cabin top. There is a
> > compression post from the step to the keel.
> > Question--how tight should the stays be, and how
> will
> > I know when they are properly tightened? I have
> never
> > rigged anythig bigger than dinghy size, and any
> advice
> > would be most appreciated. Thanks
>
> I find tuning it to middle C works best for me:-)
>
> Sorry, What I always have done is adjust the shrouds
> so the mast is
> totally straight and the shrouds still have a bit of
> flex to them.
> Then of course it also depends on how large the main
> and jib area is
> as keeping the headstay tight is the big challenge.
> (I have only had
> experience with wooden masts.)
>
> I have never had the "pleasure" of dealing with
> running backstays, but
> I think your rig is likely more for steadying the
> motion rather than
> outright performance eh?
>
>
>
>
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Free advice (is worth exactly what you pay for it) from me.
As I understand it, the only reason for tight stays is to hold the
leading edge of a jib from sagging. In every other instance, (like
yours), loose stays are fine. Indeed, tightening the stays puts the
mast in compression, and puts other static stresses on the boat (chain
plates, etc.). In other words, my advice is 'just snug', not taught.
As I understand it, the only reason for tight stays is to hold the
leading edge of a jib from sagging. In every other instance, (like
yours), loose stays are fine. Indeed, tightening the stays puts the
mast in compression, and puts other static stresses on the boat (chain
plates, etc.). In other words, my advice is 'just snug', not taught.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Sam Glasscock <glasscocklanding@...> wrote:
Sorry, What I always have done is adjust the shrouds so the mast is
totally straight and the shrouds still have a bit of flex to them.
Then of course it also depends on how large the main and jib area is
as keeping the headstay tight is the big challenge. (I have only had
experience with wooden masts.)
I have never had the "pleasure" of dealing with running backstays, but
I think your rig is likely more for steadying the motion rather than
outright performance eh?
>I find tuning it to middle C works best for me:-)
> Here is a question that will sound stupid to the
> sailors out there, but has me puzzled. I am stepping
> a 20' mast into a 31' motorsailor. The rigging is
> very simple, forestay and two shrouds--no spreaders.
> The rig is adjusted with turnbuckes on each stay. The
> mast is stepped on the cabin top. There is a
> compression post from the step to the keel.
> Question--how tight should the stays be, and how will
> I know when they are properly tightened? I have never
> rigged anythig bigger than dinghy size, and any advice
> would be most appreciated. Thanks
Sorry, What I always have done is adjust the shrouds so the mast is
totally straight and the shrouds still have a bit of flex to them.
Then of course it also depends on how large the main and jib area is
as keeping the headstay tight is the big challenge. (I have only had
experience with wooden masts.)
I have never had the "pleasure" of dealing with running backstays, but
I think your rig is likely more for steadying the motion rather than
outright performance eh?
Here is a question that will sound stupid to the
sailors out there, but has me puzzled. I am stepping
a 20' mast into a 31' motorsailor. The rigging is
very simple, forestay and two shrouds--no spreaders.
The rig is adjusted with turnbuckes on each stay. The
mast is stepped on the cabin top. There is a
compression post from the step to the keel.
Question--how tight should the stays be, and how will
I know when they are properly tightened? I have never
rigged anythig bigger than dinghy size, and any advice
would be most appreciated. Thanks
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sailors out there, but has me puzzled. I am stepping
a 20' mast into a 31' motorsailor. The rigging is
very simple, forestay and two shrouds--no spreaders.
The rig is adjusted with turnbuckes on each stay. The
mast is stepped on the cabin top. There is a
compression post from the step to the keel.
Question--how tight should the stays be, and how will
I know when they are properly tightened? I have never
rigged anythig bigger than dinghy size, and any advice
would be most appreciated. Thanks
____________________________________________________________________________________
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Having it realy welly faired befor glass and working the edges down
while glassing then being pritty good with a drywallers (sheet rocker)
brod knife filling helps. I faired the glass useing just epoxy and
fumed silaca 1/2 and 1/2 to make the bottom hard and scrach resistant.
A lot of sanding with a ROS going slow helps. 4 coats of Inter protect
below the waterline light sanding and 4 coats of bottom paint.
As far as the interior I have changed it 3 times so far and may make
changes yet the great part of a boat from scrach with a lot of room.
Jon
while glassing then being pritty good with a drywallers (sheet rocker)
brod knife filling helps. I faired the glass useing just epoxy and
fumed silaca 1/2 and 1/2 to make the bottom hard and scrach resistant.
A lot of sanding with a ROS going slow helps. 4 coats of Inter protect
below the waterline light sanding and 4 coats of bottom paint.
As far as the interior I have changed it 3 times so far and may make
changes yet the great part of a boat from scrach with a lot of room.
Jon
> Looking good and a great finish on the outside to boot!! You wouldn't
> happen to have a plan showing the expected profile and interior
> arrangements would you Jon?
> Continued success with the fun!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Peter Lenihan
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jon & Wanda(Tink)" <windyjon@...>
wrote:
happen to have a plan showing the expected profile and interior
arrangements would you Jon?
Continued success with the fun!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
wrote:
>Looking good and a great finish on the outside to boot!! You wouldn't
> Got the hull rolled (Tiped sounds like more fun) and the settings
> changed all can see all posted.
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/jons_boat_building/
>
> Jon
happen to have a plan showing the expected profile and interior
arrangements would you Jon?
Continued success with the fun!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
Got the hull rolled (Tiped sounds like more fun) and the settings
changed all can see all posted.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jons_boat_building/
Jon
changed all can see all posted.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jons_boat_building/
Jon