RE: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner

Fibreglass eh? Sounds a bit out of my fabrication range =( Then again, i need a job before i can do anything in the first place!! Stupid economy.

> To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
> From: jhkohnen@...
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:29:33 -0700
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
>
> I think I recall hearing that the hulls for the boats were fiberglass, so
> maybe they made a mold.
>
> Wayne Tedder seems to be doing alright by himself at Port Townsend, but
> he's not using all the sails:
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Baby-1.jpg
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Baby-2.jpg
>
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:43:39 -0700, Raykun D wrote:
>
> >
> > Those are adorable!!! Are there plans online for them? Does anyone know
> > anything about sailing them? Looks like they require 2 man crew?
>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-1.jpg
> >>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-2.jpg
> >>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-3.jpg
> >>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-4.jpg
> >>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-5.jpg
> >>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-6.jpg
> >>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-7.jpg
> >>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-8.jpg
>
> --
> John (jkohnen@...)
> Heaven, as conventionally conceived, is a place so inane, so
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Fibreglass eh? Sounds a bit out of my fabrication range =( Then again, i need a job before i can do anything in the first place!! Stupid economy.

> To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
> From: jhkohnen@...
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:29:33 -0700
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
>
> I think I recall hearing that the hulls for the boats were fiberglass, so
> maybe they made a mold.
>
> Wayne Tedder seems to be doing alright by himself at Port Townsend, but
> he's not using all the sails:
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Baby-1.jpg
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Baby-2.jpg
>
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:43:39 -0700, Raykun D wrote:
>
> >
> > Those are adorable!!! Are there plans online for them? Does anyone know
> > anything about sailing them? Looks like they require 2 man crew?
>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-1.jpg
> >>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-2.jpg
> >>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-3.jpg
> >>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-4.jpg
> >>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-5.jpg
> >>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-6.jpg
> >>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-7.jpg
> >>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-8.jpg
>
> --
> John (jkohnen@...)
> Heaven, as conventionally conceived, is a place so inane, so
> dull, so useless, so miserable, that nobody has ever ventured to
> describe a whole day in heaven, though plenty of people have
> described a day at the seashore. (G. B. Shaw)
>
>
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I think I recall hearing that the hulls for the boats were fiberglass, so
maybe they made a mold.

Wayne Tedder seems to be doing alright by himself at Port Townsend, but
he's not using all the sails:

http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Baby-1.jpg

http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Baby-2.jpg

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:43:39 -0700, Raykun D wrote:

>
> Those are adorable!!! Are there plans online for them? Does anyone know
> anything about sailing them? Looks like they require 2 man crew?

>>http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-1.jpg
>>
>>http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-2.jpg
>>
>>http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-3.jpg
>>
>>http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-4.jpg
>>
>>http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-5.jpg
>>
>>http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-6.jpg
>>
>>http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-7.jpg
>>
>>http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-8.jpg

--
John (jkohnen@...)
Heaven, as conventionally conceived, is a place so inane, so
dull, so useless, so miserable, that nobody has ever ventured to
describe a whole day in heaven, though plenty of people have
described a day at the seashore. (G. B. Shaw)

yep and I have talked to Wayne Tedder about them but its been a few years

I think the boats in the links are built like small ships

last year I saw some he helped with that are made out of ply

the ply boats are just a 16 foot skiff with the lines of a tall ship dead simple to make

--- OnTue, 6/22/10, Raykun D<chikokishi@...>wrote:

From: Raykun D <chikokishi@...>
Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 3:40 PM

Please do. So youve seen them upclose? Are they like plywood built or more boat shaped, you know what im asking?

To: bolger@yahoogroups. com
From: daddy_green_ dragon@yahoo. com
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:36:50 -0700
Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner

I have all ways liked these boats I have sailed along with them a few times
I have some friends that know Wayne Tedder so I might be able to find about plans
--- OnTue, 6/22/10, Raykun D<chikokishi@hotmail. com>wrote:

From: Raykun D <chikokishi@hotmail. com>
Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
To: bolger@yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 2:43 PM

Those are adorable!!! Are there plans online for them? Does anyone know anything about sailing them? Looks like they require 2 man crew?

> To: bolger@yahoogroups. com
> From: jhkohnen@boat- links.com
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:42:07 -0700
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
>
> Oops! I didn't notice that space in the directory name! Sorry about that.
> These should work:
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 1.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 2.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 3.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 4.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 5.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 6.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 7.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 8.jpg
>
>
> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:49:54 -0700, Raykun D wrote:
>
> >
> > None of these links work, i tried adding an underscore between short
> > ships... Try again?
> >
> >> To: bolger@yahoogroups. com
> >> From: jhkohnen@boat- links.com
> >> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:32:32 -0700
> >> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
> >>
> >> What's even more awesome is that they built several of them:
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/Short Ships/short- ship-1.jpg
> >> ...
>
>
> --
> John (jkohnen@boat- links.com)
> There is a custom, amounting almost to tradition, that true boat
> speeds are obscene and must never be mentioned except in a
> highly dressed up state. (Lindsay Lord)
>
>
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Please do. So youve seen them upclose? Are they like plywood built or more boat shaped, you know what im asking?

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: daddy_green_dragon@...
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:36:50 -0700
Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner

I have all ways liked these boats I have sailed along with them a few times

I have some friends that know Wayne Tedder so I might be able to find about plans

--- OnTue, 6/22/10, Raykun D<chikokishi@hotmail. com>wrote:

From: Raykun D <chikokishi@hotmail. com>
Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
To: bolger@yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 2:43 PM

Those are adorable!!! Are there plans online for them? Does anyone know anything about sailing them? Looks like they require 2 man crew?

> To: bolger@yahoogroups. com
> From: jhkohnen@boat- links.com
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:42:07 -0700
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
>
> Oops! I didn't notice that space in the directory name! Sorry about that.
> These should work:
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 1.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 2.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 3.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 4.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 5.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 6.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 7.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 8.jpg
>
>
> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:49:54 -0700, Raykun D wrote:
>
> >
> > None of these links work, i tried adding an underscore between short
> > ships... Try again?
> >
> >> To: bolger@yahoogroups. com
> >> From: jhkohnen@boat- links.com
> >> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:32:32 -0700
> >> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
> >>
> >> What's even more awesome is that they built several of them:
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/Short Ships/short- ship-1.jpg
> >> ...
>
>
> --
> John (jkohnen@boat- links.com)
> There is a custom, amounting almost to tradition, that true boat
> speeds are obscene and must never be mentioned except in a
> highly dressed up state. (Lindsay Lord)
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
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I have all ways liked these boats I have sailed along with them a few times

I have some friends that know Wayne Tedder so I might be able to find about plans

--- OnTue, 6/22/10, Raykun D<chikokishi@...>wrote:

From: Raykun D <chikokishi@...>
Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 2:43 PM

Those are adorable!!! Are there plans online for them? Does anyone know anything about sailing them? Looks like they require 2 man crew?

> To: bolger@yahoogroups. com
> From: jhkohnen@boat- links.com
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:42:07 -0700
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
>
> Oops! I didn't notice that space in the directory name! Sorry about that.
> These should work:
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 1.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 2.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 3.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 4.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 5.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 6.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 7.jpg
>
> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/ShortShip s/short-ship- 8.jpg
>
>
> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:49:54 -0700, Raykun D wrote:
>
> >
> > None of these links work, i tried adding an underscore between short
> > ships... Try again?
> >
> >> To: bolger@yahoogroups. com
> >> From: jhkohnen@boat- links.com
> >> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:32:32 -0700
> >> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
> >>
> >> What's even more awesome is that they built several of them:
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.boat- links.com/ images/Short Ships/short- ship-1.jpg
> >> ...
>
>
> --
> John (jkohnen@boat- links.com)
> There is a custom, amounting almost to tradition, that true boat
> speeds are obscene and must never be mentioned except in a
> highly dressed up state. (Lindsay Lord)
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please!
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Those are adorable!!! Are there plans online for them? Does anyone know anything about sailing them? Looks like they require 2 man crew?

> To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
> From: jhkohnen@...
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:42:07 -0700
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
>
> Oops! I didn't notice that space in the directory name! Sorry about that.
> These should work:
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-1.jpg
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-2.jpg
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-3.jpg
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-4.jpg
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-5.jpg
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-6.jpg
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-7.jpg
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-8.jpg
>
>
> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:49:54 -0700, Raykun D wrote:
>
> >
> > None of these links work, i tried adding an underscore between short
> > ships... Try again?
> >
> >> To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
> >> From: jhkohnen@...
> >> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:32:32 -0700
> >> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
> >>
> >> What's even more awesome is that they built several of them:
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/images/Short Ships/short-ship-1.jpg
> >> ...
>
>
> --
> John (jkohnen@...)
> There is a custom, amounting almost to tradition, that true boat
> speeds are obscene and must never be mentioned except in a
> highly dressed up state. (Lindsay Lord)
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, respamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:49:54 -0700, Raykun D wrote:

>
> None of these links work, i tried adding an underscore between short
> ships... Try again?
>
>> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>> From:jhkohnen@...
>> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:32:32 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
>>
>> What's even more awesome is that they built several of them:
>>
>>
>>http://www.boat-links.com/images/ShortShips/short-ship-1.jpg
>> ...

--
John (jkohnen@...)
There is a custom, amounting almost to tradition, that true boat
speeds are obscene and must never be mentioned except in a
highly dressed up state. (Lindsay Lord)

None of these links work, i tried adding an underscore between short ships... Try again?

> To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
> From: jhkohnen@...
> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:32:32 -0700
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
>
> What's even more awesome is that they built several of them:
>
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/images/Short Ships/short-ship-1.jpg
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/images/Short Ships/short-ship-2.jpg
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/images/Short Ships/short-ship-3.jpg
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/images/Short Ships/short-ship-4.jpg
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/images/Short Ships/short-ship-5.jpg
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/images/Short Ships/short-ship-6.jpg
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/images/Short Ships/short-ship-7.jpg
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/images/Short Ships/short-ship-8.jpg
>
>
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:38:04 -0700, Raykun wrote:
>
> >
> > Hahaha that is awesome!
> >
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Baby-1.jpg
> >>
> >> http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Baby-2.jpg
> >>
> >> Designed and built by Wayne Tedder and Archie Malloy of Cathlamet
> >> (IIIRC),
> >> Washington.
> >>
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:38:04 -0700, Raykun wrote:

>
> Hahaha that is awesome!
>
>>http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Baby-1.jpg
>>
>>http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Baby-2.jpg
>>
>> Designed and built by Wayne Tedder and Archie Malloy of Cathlamet
>> (IIIRC),
>> Washington.
>>

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hijacking of morality by religion. (Arthur C. Clarke)

Really, you can always move a leeboard, and you really have to. It is quite and very far behind the sails' center of pressure.

It may seem like a lot of trouble, but you will be very happy with her performance after you move it forward at least a foot or a bit more.

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On Jun 16, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Raykun D wrote:

http://c2.ac- images.myspacecd n.com/images02/ 75/l_9f57b629d9a 24cd0b20d4ba9881 af795.jpg <-- Because of the construction of the boat, it makes it very difficult to put the keel anywhere else. I built it using a single sheet of plywood for the bulk of the boat. The transom is made out of thicker wood, thats about it.

To: bolger@yahoogroups. com
From: cecbell@comcast. net
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:42:34 +0000
Subject: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner

I wonder if some of the steering problem you mention is due to the
position of the leeboard. It seems too far aft in relation to the sails.
As far back as it appears, I'd expect it to tend to fall away from the
wind and be difficult, if not impossible, to tack. Would it be difficult
to experiment with moving it forward?

--- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, Raykun D <chikokishi@. ..> wrote:
>
>
>
> It is really fun, very very slow (maybe because the wind never gets
over 5mph at the lake) but you eventually get where your going. It can
hold two people I have a problem with the rudder, i am unable to steer
it properly because i have to sit right infront of it to balance the
boat. lol. So i usually put my hand in the water and move it manually
like that. I think the keel should be bigger too, it likes to drift
sideways. Im still trying to learn how to sail and such, Iv never been
able to tack (probably because im going so slow that i can barely turn
to start!) She is fun though... I think my friend and i have named her
'Sailboat!' because it made sense.
>
> I have always thought it would be really cool to have a full rigged
ship (like 10+ sails.. like the really big ships) that was only like 15
feet long. All the sails would have to be control lined to the cab, and
the sailor would look ridiculously huge compared to what the should
'should' carry. But i think that would be the most awesome little lake
boat ever.
> To: bolger@yahoogroups. com
> From: hallman@...
> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:53:26 -0700
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Raykun D chikokishi@. .. wrote:
>
> >
>
> > I really dont know much about sailing other than what little bit i
do in my homemade boat (
http://c1.ac- images.myspacecd n.com/images02/ 88/l_d7f240b3cca f4b45b40683d\
1f562c2e0.jpg ). Iv only seen the ocean once in my life, i do wish i
lived closer.
>
>
>
> That is a heck of a fun looking home made boat! If you are not near
>
> the ocean, you might also consider making model boats, and these can
>
> be sailed on lakes.
>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Kohnen" <jhkohnen@...> wrote:

>
>http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Baby-1.jpg
>
>http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Baby-2.jpg
>
> Designed and built by Wayne Tedder and Archie Malloy of Cathlamet (IIIRC),
> Washington.

You got to love that don`t you ?

Hahaha that is awesome!

> To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
> From: jhkohnen@...
> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:23:54 -0700
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Baby-1.jpg
>
> http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Baby-2.jpg
>
> Designed and built by Wayne Tedder and Archie Malloy of Cathlamet (IIIRC),
> Washington.
>
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:07:24 -0700, Raykun D wrote:
>
> > ...
> > I have always thought it would be really cool to have a full rigged ship
> > (like 10+ sails.. like the really big ships) that was only like 15 feet
> > long. All the sails would have to be control lined to the cab, and the
> > sailor would look ridiculously huge compared to what the should 'should'
> > carry. But i think that would be the most awesome little lake boat ever.
>
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Designed and built by Wayne Tedder and Archie Malloy of Cathlamet (IIIRC),
Washington.

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:07:24 -0700, Raykun D wrote:

> ...
> I have always thought it would be really cool to have a full rigged ship
> (like 10+ sails.. like the really big ships) that was only like 15 feet
> long. All the sails would have to be control lined to the cab, and the
> sailor would look ridiculously huge compared to what the should 'should'
> carry. But i think that would be the most awesome little lake boat ever.

--
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bryant O" <boatbuilder@...> wrote:

>
> I'm fairly sure I took that pic of Sue. There were several chase
> boats out there doing the photo shoot thing. Someplace I have
> several pics of Sue's boat including one or even two on her trailer.

I'm fairly sure that you did, too.

> As for handling I can tell you that passengers are pretty well
> ballast except for the odd moment when changing tack when it's
> easier for the "ballast" to bring the jib over. No doubt a club
> foot would resolve that. As I remember all the lines come back to
> the helm. And I'm fairly sure Sue trotted about getting the sails
> up on her own.

I wouldn't bother with the club foot; she tacks quite well with the jib sheets run aft to the main cockpit. I think she handles quite well in all winds except those light enough to tempt me to go Mouseboating rather than sailing... including standing up to surprisingly heavy weather for such a small boat, once you've reefed her down.

As for the weighted daggerboard, I've added an extra 50 pounds or so by filling the opening completely full of lead; the added stiffness really helps. I just lift with my legs, and don't have trouble, except early on when the fit in the slot opening was too tight and it tended to jam. The one adaptation that I plan to make for that weighted daggerboard is to reinforce the deck to either side of the slot with extra carlings; as it is, it has trouble supporting the weight of me plus the daggerboard, and I want it to be sturdier.

But for the most part, I treat her as a keelboat that disassembles for transport on a bunk trailer, rather than a centerboard boat that can venture into shallow water -- even if you do get the keel up, the rudder still draws just as much.

This is all very timely; I've just gotten my boat back to Toronto recently and am doing some much-needed maintenance to get her back in the water again. Or I would be, if it weren't raining all the time.

It looks like a fun little boat to sail. I would have had to try the bedsheet sail especially as the wind isn't very strong! I think a centerboard would be better than a leeboard in your case, they are really not that difficult to do once you get past the cutting a hole in the center of your boats bottom...

You can find all the pics (there are like.. 8?) on my myspace page: www.myspace.com/chikokishi Go to photos --> Sailboat. Some pics of me sailing it too. The mast is a 12' aluminum pole, the boom is just a piece of metal, i have since then taken it off because it didnt do much at all, i might put it back on and see if now that im a little better at sailing i can make it work better. The spars are also just pieced of aluminum i found at the scrap yard. There is a hole in the deck with a clamp insode to hold the mast up, i take it off to travel, i just throw it in the back of my 4runner.

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: Dreamzpainter@...
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 22:09:32 -0400
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner

WOW, it looks liek 2 totally diferent boats in those 2 pics! I can see what you mean about daggerboard placement in the 2nd pic... can you post the link for all your pics? What did you use for the mast, boom and spars ? ?

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To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: cecbell@...
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:42:34 +0000
Subject: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Raykun D <chikokishi@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> It is really fun, very very slow (maybe because the wind never gets
over 5mph at the lake) but you eventually get where your going. It can
hold two people I have a problem with the rudder, i am unable to steer
it properly because i have to sit right infront of it to balance the
boat. lol. So i usually put my hand in the water and move it manually
like that. I think the keel should be bigger too, it likes to drift
sideways. Im still trying to learn how to sail and such, Iv never been
able to tack (probably because im going so slow that i can barely turn
to start!) She is fun though... I think my friend and i have named her
'Sailboat!' because it made sense.
>
> I have always thought it would be really cool to have a full rigged
ship (like 10+ sails.. like the really big ships) that was only like 15
feet long. All the sails would have to be control lined to the cab, and
the sailor would look ridiculously huge compared to what the should
'should' carry. But i think that would be the most awesome little lake
boat ever.
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> From: hallman@...
> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:53:26 -0700
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Raykun D chikokishi@... wrote:
>
> >
>
> > I really dont know much about sailing other than what little bit i
do in my homemade boat (
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/88/l_d7f240b3ccaf4b45b40683d\
1f562c2e0.jpg). Iv only seen the ocean once in my life, i do wish i
lived closer.
>
>
>
> That is a heck of a fun looking home made boat! If you are not near
>
> the ocean, you might also consider making model boats, and these can
>
> be sailed on lakes.
>
>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Raykun D <chikokishi@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> It is really fun, very very slow (maybe because the wind never gets
over 5mph at the lake) but you eventually get where your going. It can
hold two people I have a problem with the rudder, i am unable to steer
it properly because i have to sit right infront of it to balance the
boat. lol. So i usually put my hand in the water and move it manually
like that. I think the keel should be bigger too, it likes to drift
sideways. Im still trying to learn how to sail and such, Iv never been
able to tack (probably because im going so slow that i can barely turn
to start!) She is fun though... I think my friend and i have named her
'Sailboat!' because it made sense.
>
> I have always thought it would be really cool to have a full rigged
ship (like 10+ sails.. like the really big ships) that was only like 15
feet long. All the sails would have to be control lined to the cab, and
the sailor would look ridiculously huge compared to what the should
'should' carry. But i think that would be the most awesome little lake
boat ever.
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> From: hallman@...
> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:53:26 -0700
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Raykun D chikokishi@... wrote:
>
> >
>
> > I really dont know much about sailing other than what little bit i
do in my homemade boat (
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/88/l_d7f240b3ccaf4b45b40683d\
1f562c2e0.jpg ). Iv only seen the ocean once in my life, i do wish i
lived closer.
>
>
>
> That is a heck of a fun looking home made boat! If you are not near
>
> the ocean, you might also consider making model boats, and these can
>
> be sailed on lakes.
>
>
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It is really fun, very very slow (maybe because the wind never gets over 5mph at the lake) but you eventually get where your going. It can hold two people I have a problem with the rudder, i am unable to steer it properly because i have to sit right infront of it to balance the boat. lol. So i usually put my hand in the water and move it manually like that. I think the keel should be bigger too, it likes to drift sideways. Im still trying to learn how to sail and such, Iv never been able to tack (probably because im going so slow that i can barely turn to start!) She is fun though... I think my friend and i have named her 'Sailboat!' because it made sense.

I have always thought it would be really cool to have a full rigged ship (like 10+ sails.. like the really big ships) that was only like 15 feet long. All the sails would have to be control lined to the cab, and the sailor would look ridiculously huge compared to what the should 'should' carry. But i think that would be the most awesome little lake boat ever.

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: hallman@...
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:53:26 -0700
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Raykun D <chikokishi@...> wrote:
>
> I really dont know much about sailing other than what little bit i do in my homemade boat (http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/88/l_d7f240b3ccaf4b45b40683d1f562c2e0.jpg). Iv only seen the ocean once in my life, i do wish i lived closer.

That is a heck of a fun looking home made boat! If you are not near
the ocean, you might also consider making model boats, and these can
be sailed on lakes.

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On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Raykun D <chikokishi@...> wrote:

>
> I really dont know much about sailing other than what little bit i do in my homemade boat (http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/88/l_d7f240b3ccaf4b45b40683d1f562c2e0.jpg). Iv only seen the ocean once in my life, i do wish i lived closer.

That is a heck of a fun looking home made boat! If you are not near
the ocean, you might also consider making model boats, and these can
be sailed on lakes.

I really dont know much about sailing other than what little bit i do in my homemade boat ( http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/88/l_d7f240b3ccaf4b45b40683d1f562c2e0.jpg ). Iv only seen the ocean once in my life, i do wish i lived closer.

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: pvanderwaart@...
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:17:26 +0000
Subject: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner

> I suspect I would be better with a Light Schooner.

That's one way to go, but there are others. It depends on what construction you are willing to take on, how far out to sea you want to go, how many crew you want to take with you, and how skilled they are.

And do you want a schooner just because it's a schooner.

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One way to wrestle the daggerboard up or down might be to cut notches in the back to mate to a screw jack mechanism.

JohnT

From:bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto: bolger@yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf OfBruce Hallman
Sent:Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:24 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject:Re: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner

> The heavy, essentially permanently mounted steel plate would necessitate beefing up

> the structure ...

One way to beef up the structural strength might be to bolt a steel
plate on to the bottom! <grin>

I wonder if there might be a way to configure the ballasted dagger
board with a key, or latches, into two pieces for easier lifting.

Another might be to take half of the ballast out of the dagger board
and have that piece be a simple lead casting that set on the inside
bottom (kind of like Eeeek!)

I think the board is as long as it is so that the righting moment is sufficient to keep the boat standing without shifting crew as ballast.

To get the same leverage on a shorter lever requires proportionally more weight. For example, in order to get the moment of 100 pounds at 5 feet from a 1 foot radius would require 500 pounds. If, however, the center of mass of the board is at 2 feet, the weight can be 250 pounds. This would be approximately 5 square feet of 3/4" plate (IIRC 1 sq foot of 1" plate is 64lbs).

V/R
Chris

On 6/16/2010 10:23 AM, Bruce Hallman wrote:

Another might be to take half of the ballast out of the dagger board
and have that piece be a simple lead casting that set on the inside
bottom (kind of like Eeeek!)

> The heavy, essentially permanently mounted steel plate would necessitate beefing up
> the structure ...

> I suspect I would be better with a Light Schooner.

In my idle moments, which SWMBO will assert are many, I sometimes ponder
what could be done to fit this hull for shoat draft regions like the
upper Chesapeake Bay. I think that to maintain the righting moment with
less draft it would require a pivoting steel centerboard that weighs
substantially more than the dagger board of the current configuration.
A kick back rudder would also be useful

The ripple effect would be pretty profound, I expect. The heavy,
essentially permanently mounted steel plate would necessitate beefing up
the structure so that it doesn't beat the hull apart while trailering.
The trunk would require more space in the hull, possibly at cost of
forward cockpit. Helm response and leeway would change, possibly
requiring relocation of the masts.

I recall reading in one of PCB books a discussion of such an exercise
and its ultimate result. I suspect I would be better with a Light Schooner.

V/R
Chris

On 6/16/2010 5:14 AM, Joe T wrote:
> The dagger board, or more like a drop keel, is a heavy beast. Tony Groves, who commissioned and built the prototype, had trouble with it and rigged some kind of tackle to handle it. She is a beauty though and I enjoyed seeing her sail off the coast of southern California in the 90's. Not handy in the shallows with that weighty keel.
>
>

The dagger board, or more like a drop keel, is a heavy beast. Tony Groves, who commissioned and built the prototype, had trouble with it and rigged some kind of tackle to handle it. She is a beauty though and I enjoyed seeing her sail off the coast of southern California in the 90's. Not handy in the shallows with that weighty keel.

Joe T

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Raykun D <chikokishi@...> wrote:
>
>
> I think this is such a beautiful little boat, i love the dual mast, and because im by myself often itd be really nice. Plus i own a 4runner, i dont want to be hauling the titanic around you know? I wonder how much it would be to build one of these? I found the plans online once, but i didnt purchase them. It doesnt require a bunch of woodworking skills if i remember right. thanks for the info!
>

http://www.instantboats.com/boats.html

On 6/14/2010 2:56 AM, Raykun D wrote:
I think this is such a beautiful little boat, i love the dual mast, and because im by myself often itd be really nice. Plus i own a 4runner, i dont want to be hauling the titanic around you know? I wonder how much it would be to build one of these? I found the plans online once, but i didnt purchase them. It doesnt require a bunch of woodworking skills if i remember right. thanks for the info!._,___

I think this is such a beautiful little boat, i love the dual mast, and because im by myself often itd be really nice. Plus i own a 4runner, i dont want to be hauling the titanic around you know? I wonder how much it would be to build one of these? I found the plans online once, but i didnt purchase them. It doesnt require a bunch of woodworking skills if i remember right. thanks for the info!

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: boatbuilder@...
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:09:29 +0000
Subject: [bolger] Re: Single Handed Schooner

I'm fairly sure I took that pic of Sue. There were several chase boats out there doing the photo shoot thing. Someplace I have several pics of Sue's boat including one or even two on her trailer. I'll check if you like.

You'd have to check in with Sue re your questions. I don't recall it being that windy that day and Shrike was all over Colonel By lake like she owned it. As for handling I can tell you that passengers are pretty well ballast except for the odd moment when changing tack when it's easier for the "ballast" to bring the jib over. No doubt a club foot would resolve that. As I remember all the lines come back to the helm. And I'm fairly sure Sue trotted about getting the sails up on her own.

Bryant Owen

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <hallman@...> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 2:31 PM, chikokishi <chikokishi@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anyone own one of these or have pictures of one? The only images I can find are of that one on the duckworks (?) website. I live in Montana and I would love to build one of these (Once I finish my ultralight project!) Are they easy enough to handle? Do they do well in light wind? Etc etc. All information is appreciated!
> >
> > Chikokishi
>
> I think that Susan Davis posted a picture of her boat on Wikipedia
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shrike-port-beam.jpg
>
> Plus, searching old email I see that she posted photos in 2004 to the
> Yahoo group with the group name "Bolger3".
>

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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <hallman@...> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 2:31 PM, chikokishi <chikokishi@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anyone own one of these or have pictures of one? The only images I can find are of that one on the duckworks (?) website. I live in Montana and I would love to build one of these (Once I finish my ultralight project!) Are they easy enough to handle? Do they do well in light wind? Etc etc. All information is appreciated!
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> > Chikokishi
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> I think that Susan Davis posted a picture of her boat on Wikipedia
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>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shrike-port-beam.jpg
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> Plus, searching old email I see that she posted photos in 2004 to the
> Yahoo group with the group name "Bolger3".
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On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 2:31 PM, chikokishi <chikokishi@...> wrote:

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> Does anyone own one of these or have pictures of one? The only images I can find are of that one on the duckworks (?) website. I live in Montana and I would love to build one of these (Once I finish my ultralight project!) Are they easy enough to handle? Do they do well in light wind? Etc etc. All information is appreciated!
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> Chikokishi

I think that Susan Davis posted a picture of her boat on Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shrike-port-beam.jpg

Plus, searching old email I see that she posted photos in 2004 to the
Yahoo group with the group name "Bolger3".

Does anyone own one of these or have pictures of one? The only images I can find are of that one on the duckworks (?) website. I live in Montana and I would love to build one of these (Once I finish my ultralight project!) Are they easy enough to handle? Do they do well in light wind? Etc etc. All information is appreciated!

Chikokishi

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Chris Kottaridis <chriskot@...> wrote:

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> Gee, at 200 lbs it's borderline car topable.

This boat is really, *really* not cartoppable. At the very least,
mine isn't, although as I mentioned, I reinforced mine with multiple
courses of heavily saturated Xynole for durability, which added
considerably to the weight.

--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>

Thanks for the responses.

Gee, at 200 lbs it's borderline car topable. At least Bolger's Wisp is
supposed to come in around 200 lbs and he considers that car topable.
Certainly need more able bodies then me alone for that to happen! I'll
be keeping my eye out for old trailers.

Straight lines will be a lot easier.I've done some stitch and glue and
there you want to cut curved lines that then define the shape.

The diagram with the curved drawing is a profile view that I think shows
the ultimate sheer line. There is a note that says "Lines and offsets to
outside of sides, underside of bottom, NOT USED IF DESIGNED ASSEMBLY
METHOD IS USED". So, I think this diagram is for completeness or if you
wanted to use a different build method. I was pretty sure I wanted
straight line cuts.

I go back and forth about the strong back. From the "Instant Boats" book
it seems that just springing the side panels around the bulkheads will
get the right shape for this boat. I assume you need to take some care
to get the centerlines all lined up. If I make a strong back then I'll
need the diagram to ensure that the bulkheads are at the proper heights
with respect to each other. That'll take some extra work that mostly I
am convinced I should take the time to do. But, once in a while I talk
myself out of it. This thing is taking long enough as it is, seems hard
to get boatbuilding to the top of my list.

I didn't find any singlehanded schooner build photos on the Bolger web
site. I'll try to look closer again later. Maybe I wasn't looking in the
right place.

Thanks
Chris Kottaridis (chriskot@...)

> Is it right that I should cut the side panels in a perfect straight line
> 16" wide ?

As other have pointed out, it seems dead straight is what you want.

What is the curved picture you're looking at? You will understand your
building process better if you know why that particular drawing appears
on the plans.

It's possible that it's a plan view, and it's possible that it's for
marking out the waterline--because a "level" line on the boat in the
water is a wacky curve on the panel laid flat on the ground, you may be
looking at direction for painting.

-Chris