Re: [bolger] Re: Sneakeasy Length for registration?
On my little 17 footer it's just 17 feet. The didn't
count the outboard. The outboard is "removeable".
What is it now? I don't know, they change how they do
things almost yearly.
When Bill got his Bayliner he got it our of state and
he had to deal with the State Patrol and have them
look at it.
It use to be what ever the builder called it, for size
was on the title.
Thats why I said check with the State and see what
they want.
Blessings Krissie
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count the outboard. The outboard is "removeable".
What is it now? I don't know, they change how they do
things almost yearly.
When Bill got his Bayliner he got it our of state and
he had to deal with the State Patrol and have them
look at it.
It use to be what ever the builder called it, for size
was on the title.
Thats why I said check with the State and see what
they want.
Blessings Krissie
--- "Jon & Wanda(Tink)" <windyjon@...> wrote:
> Kristine in Wa. do you include outboards and rudders____________________________________________________________________________________
> in the length?
> The Coast Guard calls the Wheel on a Sternwheeler a
> outboard and
> monkey rudders are just rudders.
>
> Jon
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Kristine Bennett
> <femmpaws@...> wrote:
> >
> > Ron the best thing to do is ask the state where
> you
> > live and or register it. Some states want bow to
> > transom and others want over all lenght.
> >
> > I know for a long time here in Washington it was
> bow
> > to transom, about 15 or so years ago they went
> over
> > all lenght.
> >
> > That's why a friends 23'9" Bayliner went to 26'6"
> when
> > he added the swimstep and bow roller. And his
> taxes
> > went up too. The boat was in the 25 and over class
> > then.
> >
> > Who knows how they come up with the tax rates
> anymore.
> >
> > Blessings Krissie
>
>
>
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Looked in the US DOT, United States Coast Guard, Safety Standards for
Backyard Boat Builders and it depicts the length of a vessel as the hull
from bow to transom. This does not include bow rollers, bow sprits or
outboard style engine mounts. There is nothing regarding swim platforms. I
would note that while the USCG does have authority regarding vessel safety
it is up to each state to regulate many facets of boating, including
registration of vessels. Along with that I would assume is the ability to
define vessel length.
Caloosarat
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From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Chester Young
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:02 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [bolger] Sneakeasy Length for registration?
As mentioned it depends. In Florida the length of the vessel for
registration is based on the title and statements from the owner, along with
an inspection from Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. The
statutes define it as "measurement from end to end over the deck parallel to
the centerline excluding sheer". When a vessel is moored at a dock with a
lease from State Lands, (as is the case most often except for manmade bodies
of water) it is the full length of the vessel, including bow rollers, swim
platform, and in the case of an outboard, the engine tilted up. The minor
difference in registration length is financially insignificant, it is the
cost of mooring that really hurts the wallet.
The Esther Mae is registered as 30', if in a slip at a marina they would
likely charge me for 33'. Since I would rather anchor out or keep her at
private exempt dock it does not matter. The annual cost difference in
registration length between 30'& 33' would be exceeded by the difference in
one nights cost as a transient at a high end marina for the extra 3'.
Register as the longer and avoid the hassle, Esther Mae was registered when
I bought her so she is what she is.
Caloosarat
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From: bolger@yahoogroups. <mailto:bolger%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups. <mailto:bolger%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf
Of
Ron Schroeder
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 3:19 PM
To: bolger@yahoogroups. <mailto:bolger%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [bolger] Sneakeasy Length for registration?
How is a boat like the Sneakeasy with drake tails registered? Is the
over all length of 26' 6" or is it the stem to transom length which is
about 3 feet shorter?
Thanks,
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Backyard Boat Builders and it depicts the length of a vessel as the hull
from bow to transom. This does not include bow rollers, bow sprits or
outboard style engine mounts. There is nothing regarding swim platforms. I
would note that while the USCG does have authority regarding vessel safety
it is up to each state to regulate many facets of boating, including
registration of vessels. Along with that I would assume is the ability to
define vessel length.
Caloosarat
_____
From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Chester Young
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:02 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [bolger] Sneakeasy Length for registration?
As mentioned it depends. In Florida the length of the vessel for
registration is based on the title and statements from the owner, along with
an inspection from Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. The
statutes define it as "measurement from end to end over the deck parallel to
the centerline excluding sheer". When a vessel is moored at a dock with a
lease from State Lands, (as is the case most often except for manmade bodies
of water) it is the full length of the vessel, including bow rollers, swim
platform, and in the case of an outboard, the engine tilted up. The minor
difference in registration length is financially insignificant, it is the
cost of mooring that really hurts the wallet.
The Esther Mae is registered as 30', if in a slip at a marina they would
likely charge me for 33'. Since I would rather anchor out or keep her at
private exempt dock it does not matter. The annual cost difference in
registration length between 30'& 33' would be exceeded by the difference in
one nights cost as a transient at a high end marina for the extra 3'.
Register as the longer and avoid the hassle, Esther Mae was registered when
I bought her so she is what she is.
Caloosarat
_____
From: bolger@yahoogroups. <mailto:bolger%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups. <mailto:bolger%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf
Of
Ron Schroeder
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 3:19 PM
To: bolger@yahoogroups. <mailto:bolger%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [bolger] Sneakeasy Length for registration?
How is a boat like the Sneakeasy with drake tails registered? Is the
over all length of 26' 6" or is it the stem to transom length which is
about 3 feet shorter?
Thanks,
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
How does the USCG define length?
As mentioned it depends. In Florida the length of the vessel for
registration is based on the title and statements from the owner, along with
an inspection from Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. The
statutes define it as "measurement from end to end over the deck parallel to
the centerline excluding sheer". When a vessel is moored at a dock with a
lease from State Lands, (as is the case most often except for manmade bodies
of water) it is the full length of the vessel, including bow rollers, swim
platform, and in the case of an outboard, the engine tilted up. The minor
difference in registration length is financially insignificant, it is the
cost of mooring that really hurts the wallet.
The Esther Mae is registered as 30', if in a slip at a marina they would
likely charge me for 33'. Since I would rather anchor out or keep her at
private exempt dock it does not matter. The annual cost difference in
registration length between 30'& 33' would be exceeded by the difference in
one nights cost as a transient at a high end marina for the extra 3'.
Register as the longer and avoid the hassle, Esther Mae was registered when
I bought her so she is what she is.
Caloosarat
_____
From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Ron Schroeder
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 3:19 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Sneakeasy Length for registration?
How is a boat like the Sneakeasy with drake tails registered? Is the
over all length of 26' 6" or is it the stem to transom length which is
about 3 feet shorter?
Thanks,
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
registration is based on the title and statements from the owner, along with
an inspection from Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. The
statutes define it as "measurement from end to end over the deck parallel to
the centerline excluding sheer". When a vessel is moored at a dock with a
lease from State Lands, (as is the case most often except for manmade bodies
of water) it is the full length of the vessel, including bow rollers, swim
platform, and in the case of an outboard, the engine tilted up. The minor
difference in registration length is financially insignificant, it is the
cost of mooring that really hurts the wallet.
The Esther Mae is registered as 30', if in a slip at a marina they would
likely charge me for 33'. Since I would rather anchor out or keep her at
private exempt dock it does not matter. The annual cost difference in
registration length between 30'& 33' would be exceeded by the difference in
one nights cost as a transient at a high end marina for the extra 3'.
Register as the longer and avoid the hassle, Esther Mae was registered when
I bought her so she is what she is.
Caloosarat
_____
From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Ron Schroeder
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 3:19 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Sneakeasy Length for registration?
How is a boat like the Sneakeasy with drake tails registered? Is the
over all length of 26' 6" or is it the stem to transom length which is
about 3 feet shorter?
Thanks,
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Kristine in Wa. do you include outboards and rudders in the length?
The Coast Guard calls the Wheel on a Sternwheeler a outboard and
monkey rudders are just rudders.
Jon
The Coast Guard calls the Wheel on a Sternwheeler a outboard and
monkey rudders are just rudders.
Jon
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Kristine Bennett <femmpaws@...> wrote:
>
> Ron the best thing to do is ask the state where you
> live and or register it. Some states want bow to
> transom and others want over all lenght.
>
> I know for a long time here in Washington it was bow
> to transom, about 15 or so years ago they went over
> all lenght.
>
> That's why a friends 23'9" Bayliner went to 26'6" when
> he added the swimstep and bow roller. And his taxes
> went up too. The boat was in the 25 and over class
> then.
>
> Who knows how they come up with the tax rates anymore.
>
> Blessings Krissie
Ron the best thing to do is ask the state where you
live and or register it. Some states want bow to
transom and others want over all lenght.
I know for a long time here in Washington it was bow
to transom, about 15 or so years ago they went over
all lenght.
That's why a friends 23'9" Bayliner went to 26'6" when
he added the swimstep and bow roller. And his taxes
went up too. The boat was in the 25 and over class
then.
Who knows how they come up with the tax rates anymore.
Blessings Krissie
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live and or register it. Some states want bow to
transom and others want over all lenght.
I know for a long time here in Washington it was bow
to transom, about 15 or so years ago they went over
all lenght.
That's why a friends 23'9" Bayliner went to 26'6" when
he added the swimstep and bow roller. And his taxes
went up too. The boat was in the 25 and over class
then.
Who knows how they come up with the tax rates anymore.
Blessings Krissie
--- Ron Schroeder <rjs@...> wrote:
> How is a boat like the Sneakeasy with drake tails____________________________________________________________________________________
> registered? Is the
> over all length of 26' 6" or is it the stem to
> transom length which is
> about 3 feet shorter?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
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How is a boat like the Sneakeasy with drake tails registered? Is the
over all length of 26' 6" or is it the stem to transom length which is
about 3 feet shorter?
Thanks,
over all length of 26' 6" or is it the stem to transom length which is
about 3 feet shorter?
Thanks,