Re: good substitute for fir ply, rescinded

Harry -

I did discover that the 61 lbs. listed on the distributor's site was a
general figure for shipping, not the weight. Aquatek is 30lbs per
1/4" 4X8 sheet. It uses Merenti. That makes it heavier than fir. The
Okoume is listed as 18 lbs per sheet.

It is amazing to me that these stats are so hard to find. I must be
looking in the wrong places.

David Jost
You normally figure 25 lbs per 1/4 inch sheet of plywood plus or minus
depending on species. I find it hard to believe that a 1/4 in sheet of
plywood would weigh 61 lbs. This would be .052 lbs per cubic inch which
means it is heavier than water at .036 lbs per square inch if I did my
calculations correctly. You sure that the 61 lbs isn't for 1/2 inch or
some near metric equivalent?

HJ

dnjost wrote:
> I forgot to check out the weight differences. It looks like if you
> build with the Aquatek you double the weight of the boat! 61 lbs? vs.
> 25 lbs. for Okoume BS 1088. When you add the shipping in, there is not
> much difference.
>
> Oh well, gotta try.
>
> David Jost
>
>
>
> 6mm thick Aquatek is around 30 lbs per sheet. $33 per sheet
> similar panels in Okoume are 18 lbs per sheet. $53 per sheet


I'll bet that AquaTek is Meranti which is stronger and more rot
resistant than Okoume. Heavier too of course ... :)

Sincerely,
Ken Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
www.bagacayboatworks.com
Bill -
That is really cool. The google search bar calculator.

6mm thick Aquatek is around 30 lbs per sheet. $33 per sheet
similar panels in Okoume are 18 lbs per sheet. $53 per sheet

I guess you get what you pay for.

David Jost
In a Google search box, type: 6mm in inches and hit Return. The result
is: 6 millimeters = 0.236220472 inches ; it works for any compatible
pair of units. For instance, 6 millimeters = 6.34214046 × 10-19 lightyears.
- Bill



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From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
derbyrm
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 3:36 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: good substitute for fir ply
I thought England went to the Euro.

The column headings would be useful; e.g. 6 m is probably 6 millimeters,
but, if not, then it's 236 inches.

<http://www.onlineconversion.com/auto_convert.pl>
http://www.onlineconversion.com/auto_convert.plis a useful site.

Roger




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P.S.

If the 1050/m is density, then it's 62% as heavy as Okume.

Roger
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----- Original Message -----
From: dnjost
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:28 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: good substitute for fir ply


This just in from Atlantic Plywood in East Providence. These look
like great prices. It appears as if the Aquatek actually weighs less
than the Okoume. Can anyone convert the metric to lbs?

1 040104 6m 4x8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00 0.00
1050/m $33.60

2 040103 9m 4x8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00
0.00 1450/m $46.40

3 040105 12m 4x8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00
0.00 1850/m $59.20

4 040102 15m 4 x 8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00
0.00 2000/m $ 64.00

5 040101 18m 4 x 8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00
0.00 2550/m $81.60

6 040106 25m 4 x 8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00
0.00 3600/m $115.20

Subject to availability

Currently out of 6mm and 25mm

6mm marine okume BS1088 IN STOCK 1700/M $54.40

I will try some of the Aquatek on a June Bug.

David Jost





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I thought England went to the Euro.

The column headings would be useful; e.g. 6 m is probably 6 millimeters, but, if not, then it's 236 inches.

http://www.onlineconversion.com/auto_convert.plis a useful site.

Roger
derbyrm@...
http://home.insightbb.com/~derbyrm


----- Original Message -----
From: dnjost
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:28 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: good substitute for fir ply


This just in from Atlantic Plywood in East Providence. These look
like great prices. It appears as if the Aquatek actually weighs less
than the Okoume. Can anyone convert the metric to lbs?

1 040104 6m = 236 inches 4x8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00 0.00 1050/m $33.60

2 040103 9m 4x8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00 0.00 1450/m $46.40

3 040105 12m 4x8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00 0.00 1850/m $59.20

4 040102 15m 4 x 8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00 0.00 2000/m $ 64.00

5 040101 18m 4 x 8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00 0.00 2550/m $81.60

6 040106 25m 4 x 8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00 0.00 3600/m $115.20

Subject to availability

Currently out of 6mm and 25mm

6mm marine okume BS1088 IN STOCK 1700/M $54.40

I will try some of the Aquatek on a June Bug.

David Jost
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
This just in from Atlantic Plywood in East Providence. These look
like great prices. It appears as if the Aquatek actually weighs less
than the Okoume. Can anyone convert the metric to lbs?

1 040104 6m 4x8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00 0.00
1050/m $33.60

2 040103 9m 4x8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00
0.00 1450/m $46.40

3 040105 12m 4x8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00
0.00 1850/m $59.20

4 040102 15m 4 x 8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00
0.00 2000/m $ 64.00

5 040101 18m 4 x 8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00
0.00 2550/m $81.60

6 040106 25m 4 x 8 AQUATEK BS6566 MARINE PLYWOOD WBP 1.00
0.00 3600/m $115.20

Subject to availability

Currently out of 6mm and 25mm

6mm marine okume BS1088 IN STOCK 1700/M $54.40

I will try some of the Aquatek on a June Bug.

David Jost
Patrick, you might want to talk to Graham Byrnes at BandB Yacht Design,
in Vandemere,NC (252 745 4293). He disigns and I think, teaches
boatbuilding and in the past I have bought very reasonably priced marine
okoume ply from him, but you would probably have to go get it, as I
don't think he ships. Clyde

Patrick Crockett wrote:

> Shipping to North Carolina is more than the cost of the plywood -- until
> you get up to 20 sheets, when shipping is about equal to the cost of the
> wood. Oh, well.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>




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Shipping to North Carolina is more than the cost of the plywood -- until
you get up to 20 sheets, when shipping is about equal to the cost of the
wood. Oh, well.

Patrick

dnjost wrote:
> Dear Group,
>
> It looks like we have a good alternative to the Marine grade A/B ply
> that has degenerated into crap shoot as to whether or not it will
> delaminate prior to applying paint and sheathing. Allied veneers lists
> Aquatek which is a luan based, marine grade, 5 ply wood that fills the
> void left behind. I will probably order up some and try it on a June
> Bug. Yup, ditch the 10 hp, go with the oars, and possibly add the 40
> lb electric to sneak up on those hungy bass.
>
>http://alliedveneer.com
>
> If you register, they will give you prices. Now to take the saw to the
> Diablo. I really should take some photos of this.
>
> David Jost
I forgot to check out the weight differences. It looks like if you
build with the Aquatek you double the weight of the boat! 61 lbs? vs.
25 lbs. for Okoume BS 1088. When you add the shipping in, there is not
much difference.

Oh well, gotta try.

David Jost
Dear Group,

It looks like we have a good alternative to the Marine grade A/B ply
that has degenerated into crap shoot as to whether or not it will
delaminate prior to applying paint and sheathing. Allied veneers lists
Aquatek which is a luan based, marine grade, 5 ply wood that fills the
void left behind. I will probably order up some and try it on a June
Bug. Yup, ditch the 10 hp, go with the oars, and possibly add the 40
lb electric to sneak up on those hungy bass.

http://alliedveneer.com

If you register, they will give you prices. Now to take the saw to the
Diablo. I really should take some photos of this.

David Jost