Re: Amherst Galley Vs Whalewatcher
Hello all-- I'm chiming in on the questions about Birdwatcher, Whalewatcher, and Amherst Galley. All I know about the AG is what I read in Bolger's fiction about it, which made clear, if I remember, that it was really for a kids' outward-bound sort of camp. Sounded great and looks funny. I knkow more about BW and WWm having owned two BWs and the original WW. So I can answer a coupld of questions.
1, yes, you have to go over the top and around the tabernacle to get into the anchor well. That's about the only inconvenience on that boat, and it is not too bad.
2.BW does very well with a simple motor mount such as I found already on my first BW, which was the first one built. Simply a 2 x 8 or so of mahogany stuck through the port side and mated with the well baffle in the stern. This is far simpler than the motor arrangements for BWII. I put the same sort of mount on my second BW, which is, or recently was, for sale again, in Newport, RI. That one, by the way, has the semi-complicated but fast Solent sloop rig too. Great sails. I would recommend it to anywone considering BW.
Cored sandwich construction for BW? By all means. It is even specified for the new version, BW II. I don't think it's at all necessasry but it would be very good for lots of reasons.
And finally, anybody considering building as Whalewatcher, please be aware that I have some valuable Whalewatcher assets. If I keep them, I almost have to build a Whalewatcher to make use of them. If I can sell them, I will. They are the perfect custom trailer, wide, low, tilting, with brakes. Built for the boat, and well designed and done. The brand new sails, from a name sailmaker in Dartmouth, MA. With a nifty whale's tail logo on the main. The spars, all of them, masts, yard, booms, and the little gaff for the mizzen.
I had the hull, too, but last spring when I cut into it I decided it simply was too bad to rebuild, and I destroyed it.
Am now finishing up a Micro which will probably be available for sale after I use it a bit. I got it very cheap without ballast keel or sails or spars, so I have put quite a lot into it. It came with a good, but too-high, new Long trailer and Honda 8 motor. I am getting a drop-axle for the trailer, with underslung springs, so it will be a fine outfit. Best to all---Mason Smith
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1, yes, you have to go over the top and around the tabernacle to get into the anchor well. That's about the only inconvenience on that boat, and it is not too bad.
2.BW does very well with a simple motor mount such as I found already on my first BW, which was the first one built. Simply a 2 x 8 or so of mahogany stuck through the port side and mated with the well baffle in the stern. This is far simpler than the motor arrangements for BWII. I put the same sort of mount on my second BW, which is, or recently was, for sale again, in Newport, RI. That one, by the way, has the semi-complicated but fast Solent sloop rig too. Great sails. I would recommend it to anywone considering BW.
Cored sandwich construction for BW? By all means. It is even specified for the new version, BW II. I don't think it's at all necessasry but it would be very good for lots of reasons.
And finally, anybody considering building as Whalewatcher, please be aware that I have some valuable Whalewatcher assets. If I keep them, I almost have to build a Whalewatcher to make use of them. If I can sell them, I will. They are the perfect custom trailer, wide, low, tilting, with brakes. Built for the boat, and well designed and done. The brand new sails, from a name sailmaker in Dartmouth, MA. With a nifty whale's tail logo on the main. The spars, all of them, masts, yard, booms, and the little gaff for the mizzen.
I had the hull, too, but last spring when I cut into it I decided it simply was too bad to rebuild, and I destroyed it.
Am now finishing up a Micro which will probably be available for sale after I use it a bit. I got it very cheap without ballast keel or sails or spars, so I have put quite a lot into it. It came with a good, but too-high, new Long trailer and Honda 8 motor. I am getting a drop-axle for the trailer, with underslung springs, so it will be a fine outfit. Best to all---Mason Smith
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dproasit" <knic0014@...> wrote:
>board.
> Thank you Bruce and all
> A couple more qu's : Access to bow for WW. In photos it
> looks like you gotta climb thru a window to get there or crawl over
> the top. Any ideas?
> : In AG I think have read that there
> are bench seats along sides, not open floor as in BW, with some sort
> of insert to put in place for having a camp. Is this so?
> : Would BW be a better sailer than
> AG or WW?
> : I keep on waffling on about these
> types since I checked out a BW. However I "think" I need to have an
> outboard which may be a bit untidy on BW and BW is a tad too small in
> the sleeping area for me, hence looking at larger animals.
> : What do you reckon about
> stretching BW a whisker to accommodate required berth length as it is
> everything else that I need apart from a little difficult to get on
> : Do you think these designs are
> adaptable to foam s'wich construction and what thoughts does anyone
> have on this. From what I've seen it may be a lot quicker to build
> this way along with less weight for launch and trail.
>
> See you and thanks again = Darrell
>
>
>
>
> > > Amherst Galley Vs Whalewatcher
> >
> > The Amherst Galley compares much closer to Birdwatcher. Whalewatcher,
> > by my guess, is triple the displacement of the Amherst Galley.
> >
>
Thank you Bruce and all
A couple more qu's : Access to bow for WW. In photos it
looks like you gotta climb thru a window to get there or crawl over
the top. Any ideas?
: In AG I think have read that there
are bench seats along sides, not open floor as in BW, with some sort
of insert to put in place for having a camp. Is this so?
: Would BW be a better sailer than
AG or WW?
: I keep on waffling on about these
types since I checked out a BW. However I "think" I need to have an
outboard which may be a bit untidy on BW and BW is a tad too small in
the sleeping area for me, hence looking at larger animals.
: What do you reckon about
stretching BW a whisker to accommodate required berth length as it is
everything else that I need apart from a little difficult to get on board.
: Do you think these designs are
adaptable to foam s'wich construction and what thoughts does anyone
have on this. From what I've seen it may be a lot quicker to build
this way along with less weight for launch and trail.
See you and thanks again = Darrell
A couple more qu's : Access to bow for WW. In photos it
looks like you gotta climb thru a window to get there or crawl over
the top. Any ideas?
: In AG I think have read that there
are bench seats along sides, not open floor as in BW, with some sort
of insert to put in place for having a camp. Is this so?
: Would BW be a better sailer than
AG or WW?
: I keep on waffling on about these
types since I checked out a BW. However I "think" I need to have an
outboard which may be a bit untidy on BW and BW is a tad too small in
the sleeping area for me, hence looking at larger animals.
: What do you reckon about
stretching BW a whisker to accommodate required berth length as it is
everything else that I need apart from a little difficult to get on board.
: Do you think these designs are
adaptable to foam s'wich construction and what thoughts does anyone
have on this. From what I've seen it may be a lot quicker to build
this way along with less weight for launch and trail.
See you and thanks again = Darrell
> > Amherst Galley Vs Whalewatcher
>
> The Amherst Galley compares much closer to Birdwatcher. Whalewatcher,
> by my guess, is triple the displacement of the Amherst Galley.
>
On 8/30/07, dproasit <knic0014@...> wrote:
by my guess, is triple the displacement of the Amherst Galley.
> Amherst Galley Vs WhalewatcherThe Amherst Galley compares much closer to Birdwatcher. Whalewatcher,
by my guess, is triple the displacement of the Amherst Galley.
Exam Question 1
Amherst Galley Vs Whalewatcher - Potential use, ease
of build and cost, sailing and motoring ability,
dimensions, trailing weights, ballast etc.
Please discuss.
Thanks - Darrell
Amherst Galley Vs Whalewatcher - Potential use, ease
of build and cost, sailing and motoring ability,
dimensions, trailing weights, ballast etc.
Please discuss.
Thanks - Darrell