Re: [bolger] Re: Bolger designed Friendship Sloop
The price of the Smithy's plans skyrocketed to $10 a sheet! :o(
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:21:00 -0700, Lewis wrote:
> Actually, the plans from the Smithsonian are exactly what you see in
> the book, just a larger (more readable) scale and suitable for scaling
> measurement from them.
>
> The plan numbers are:
> ACCS-100 Pemaquid, Friendship sloop lines, offsets
> ACCS-101 Pemaquid construction
> ACCS-102 Pemaquid Sail plan
>
> The pre December 2004 prices were $4, $4, & $2, but there has been a
> price increase....
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A facility for quotation covers the absence of original thought.
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Actually, the plans from the Smithsonian are exactly what you see in
the book, just a larger (more readable) scale and suitable for scaling
measurement from them.
The plan numbers are:
ACCS-100 Pemaquid, Friendship sloop lines, offsets
ACCS-101 Pemaquid construction
ACCS-102 Pemaquid Sail plan
The pre December 2004 prices were $4, $4, & $2, but there has been a
price increase. This is a BIG 25 footer, but beautiful; and not at all
suitable for plywood construction (except some form of cold moulding).
It is shown with one berth in a very small cuddy, so it would be a
perfect day sailer.
Lewis
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Richard Johnson
<rishar_johnson2001@...> wrote:
"American Small Sailing Craft" - which book you might find in your
local library. Its a great looking day sailer and any competent boat
designer should be able to modify the design to add such amenties as
an engine and head, although I think the boat would be great with the
single addition of a chemical head. The boat was originally "carvel"
planked, but the design shouldn't be a big problem for an amateur to
build using the strip plank method using today's super materials -
epoxy resins and fiberglass cloth to create a monoque hull.
to shape my tastes in boats than anything else. It wasn't until i saw
a picture of a finished boat in "Woodenboat" some 15 years later that
I realized that monhegan has been scaled down to the point where it is
almost a model and unsuitable for normal size people (Sort of like a
Cape Dory Typhoon).
small full keel sloop with lovely lines is 'Yarrow'--a miniature
Tancook Whaler in Small Boats or the somewhat larger 'Keel Whaler
Sloop' in 30 Odd Boats. Neither is a Friendship Sloop. but they are
both awfully pretty and, IMHO, more useful daysailers than Monhegan.
the book, just a larger (more readable) scale and suitable for scaling
measurement from them.
The plan numbers are:
ACCS-100 Pemaquid, Friendship sloop lines, offsets
ACCS-101 Pemaquid construction
ACCS-102 Pemaquid Sail plan
The pre December 2004 prices were $4, $4, & $2, but there has been a
price increase. This is a BIG 25 footer, but beautiful; and not at all
suitable for plywood construction (except some form of cold moulding).
It is shown with one berth in a very small cuddy, so it would be a
perfect day sailer.
Lewis
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Richard Johnson
<rishar_johnson2001@...> wrote:
>Chapelle records the lines of a 25 foot Friendship Sloop in his book
> As an alternative, you may be interested in the real thing. Howard
"American Small Sailing Craft" - which book you might find in your
local library. Its a great looking day sailer and any competent boat
designer should be able to modify the design to add such amenties as
an engine and head, although I think the boat would be great with the
single addition of a chemical head. The boat was originally "carvel"
planked, but the design shouldn't be a big problem for an amateur to
build using the strip plank method using today's super materials -
epoxy resins and fiberglass cloth to create a monoque hull.
>Sailing" in the early '70's. I was smitten and that drawing did more
> Richard Johnson (rishar_johnson2001@...)
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: John and Kathy Trussell <jtrussell2@...>
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:44:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Bolger designed Friendship Sloop
>
> A profile drawing of Monhegan was published in "Motor Boating and
to shape my tastes in boats than anything else. It wasn't until i saw
a picture of a finished boat in "Woodenboat" some 15 years later that
I realized that monhegan has been scaled down to the point where it is
almost a model and unsuitable for normal size people (Sort of like a
Cape Dory Typhoon).
>possible that 'Fancy' is the boat you saw. Another possibility for a
> Since your recollection of the design is for a lapstrake boat, it is
small full keel sloop with lovely lines is 'Yarrow'--a miniature
Tancook Whaler in Small Boats or the somewhat larger 'Keel Whaler
Sloop' in 30 Odd Boats. Neither is a Friendship Sloop. but they are
both awfully pretty and, IMHO, more useful daysailers than Monhegan.
>9/11/2007 1:37 PM
> JohnT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: maicorick3
> To: bolger@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:47 PM
> Subject: [bolger] Bolger designed Friendship Sloop
>
> I believe I once came across a small sloop designed by Mr. Bolger in
> the fashion of a Friendship Sloop. It was relatively small, something
> like 20 foot LOD as I recall. Maybe a little less or a little more.
>
> Searching the web for Bolger designs has not turned up a trace, nor is
> it in the Bolger books at the local bookstore.
>
> Anyone know about this design? (Or maybe I just dreamt I saw it?)
>
> -rcf
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On 9/21/07, Tim Anderson <lebateautim@...> wrote:
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>http://americanhistory.si.edu/csr/shipplan.htm
> All of Chapelle's plans are available from the Smithsonian. Tim P
> Anderson
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All of Chapelle's plans are available from the Smithsonian. Tim P Anderson
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From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Richard Johnson
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:56 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] Bolger designed Friendship Sloop
As an alternative, you may be interested in the real thing. Howard Chapelle
records the lines of a 25 foot Friendship Sloop in his book "American Small
Sailing Craft" - which book you might find in your local library. Its a
great looking day sailer and any competent boat designer should be able to
modify the design to add such amenties as an engine and head, although I
think the boat would be great with the single addition of a chemical head.
The boat was originally "carvel" planked, but the design shouldn't be a big
problem for an amateur to build using the strip plank method using today's
super materials - epoxy resins and fiberglass cloth to create a monoque
hull.
Richard Johnson (rishar_johnson2001@ <mailto:rishar_johnson2001%40yahoo.com>
yahoo.com)
----- Original Message ----
From: John and Kathy Trussell <jtrussell2@sc.
<mailto:jtrussell2%40sc.rr.com> rr.com>
To: bolger@yahoogroups. <mailto:bolger%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:44:15 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Bolger designed Friendship Sloop
A profile drawing of Monhegan was published in "Motor Boating and Sailing"
in the early '70's. I was smitten and that drawing did more to shape my
tastes in boats than anything else. It wasn't until i saw a picture of a
finished boat in "Woodenboat" some 15 years later that I realized that
monhegan has been scaled down to the point where it is almost a model and
unsuitable for normal size people (Sort of like a Cape Dory Typhoon).
Since your recollection of the design is for a lapstrake boat, it is
possible that 'Fancy' is the boat you saw. Another possibility for a small
full keel sloop with lovely lines is 'Yarrow'--a miniature Tancook Whaler in
Small Boats or the somewhat larger 'Keel Whaler Sloop' in 30 Odd Boats.
Neither is a Friendship Sloop. but they are both awfully pretty and, IMHO,
more useful daysailers than Monhegan.
JohnT
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From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Richard Johnson
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:56 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] Bolger designed Friendship Sloop
As an alternative, you may be interested in the real thing. Howard Chapelle
records the lines of a 25 foot Friendship Sloop in his book "American Small
Sailing Craft" - which book you might find in your local library. Its a
great looking day sailer and any competent boat designer should be able to
modify the design to add such amenties as an engine and head, although I
think the boat would be great with the single addition of a chemical head.
The boat was originally "carvel" planked, but the design shouldn't be a big
problem for an amateur to build using the strip plank method using today's
super materials - epoxy resins and fiberglass cloth to create a monoque
hull.
Richard Johnson (rishar_johnson2001@ <mailto:rishar_johnson2001%40yahoo.com>
yahoo.com)
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From: John and Kathy Trussell <jtrussell2@sc.
<mailto:jtrussell2%40sc.rr.com> rr.com>
To: bolger@yahoogroups. <mailto:bolger%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:44:15 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Bolger designed Friendship Sloop
A profile drawing of Monhegan was published in "Motor Boating and Sailing"
in the early '70's. I was smitten and that drawing did more to shape my
tastes in boats than anything else. It wasn't until i saw a picture of a
finished boat in "Woodenboat" some 15 years later that I realized that
monhegan has been scaled down to the point where it is almost a model and
unsuitable for normal size people (Sort of like a Cape Dory Typhoon).
Since your recollection of the design is for a lapstrake boat, it is
possible that 'Fancy' is the boat you saw. Another possibility for a small
full keel sloop with lovely lines is 'Yarrow'--a miniature Tancook Whaler in
Small Boats or the somewhat larger 'Keel Whaler Sloop' in 30 Odd Boats.
Neither is a Friendship Sloop. but they are both awfully pretty and, IMHO,
more useful daysailers than Monhegan.
JohnT
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From: maicorick3
To: bolger@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:47 PM
Subject: [bolger] Bolger designed Friendship Sloop
I believe I once came across a small sloop designed by Mr. Bolger in
the fashion of a Friendship Sloop. It was relatively small, something
like 20 foot LOD as I recall. Maybe a little less or a little more.
Searching the web for Bolger designs has not turned up a trace, nor is
it in the Bolger books at the local bookstore.
Anyone know about this design? (Or maybe I just dreamt I saw it?)
-rcf
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As an alternative, you may be interested in the real thing. Howard Chapelle records the lines of a 25 foot Friendship Sloop in his book "American Small Sailing Craft" - which book you might find in your local library. Its a great looking day sailer and any competent boat designer should be able to modify the design to add such amenties as an engine and head, although I think the boat would be great with the single addition of a chemical head. The boat was originally "carvel" planked, but the design shouldn't be a big problem for an amateur to build using the strip plank method using today's super materials - epoxy resins and fiberglass cloth to create a monoque hull.
Richard Johnson (rishar_johnson2001@...)
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From: John and Kathy Trussell <jtrussell2@...>
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:44:15 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Bolger designed Friendship Sloop
A profile drawing of Monhegan was published in "Motor Boating and Sailing" in the early '70's. I was smitten and that drawing did more to shape my tastes in boats than anything else. It wasn't until i saw a picture of a finished boat in "Woodenboat" some 15 years later that I realized that monhegan has been scaled down to the point where it is almost a model and unsuitable for normal size people (Sort of like a Cape Dory Typhoon).
Since your recollection of the design is for a lapstrake boat, it is possible that 'Fancy' is the boat you saw. Another possibility for a small full keel sloop with lovely lines is 'Yarrow'--a miniature Tancook Whaler in Small Boats or the somewhat larger 'Keel Whaler Sloop' in 30 Odd Boats. Neither is a Friendship Sloop. but they are both awfully pretty and, IMHO, more useful daysailers than Monhegan.
JohnT
Richard Johnson (rishar_johnson2001@...)
----- Original Message ----
From: John and Kathy Trussell <jtrussell2@...>
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:44:15 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Bolger designed Friendship Sloop
A profile drawing of Monhegan was published in "Motor Boating and Sailing" in the early '70's. I was smitten and that drawing did more to shape my tastes in boats than anything else. It wasn't until i saw a picture of a finished boat in "Woodenboat" some 15 years later that I realized that monhegan has been scaled down to the point where it is almost a model and unsuitable for normal size people (Sort of like a Cape Dory Typhoon).
Since your recollection of the design is for a lapstrake boat, it is possible that 'Fancy' is the boat you saw. Another possibility for a small full keel sloop with lovely lines is 'Yarrow'--a miniature Tancook Whaler in Small Boats or the somewhat larger 'Keel Whaler Sloop' in 30 Odd Boats. Neither is a Friendship Sloop. but they are both awfully pretty and, IMHO, more useful daysailers than Monhegan.
JohnT
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From: maicorick3
To: bolger@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:47 PM
Subject: [bolger] Bolger designed Friendship Sloop
I believe I once came across a small sloop designed by Mr. Bolger in
the fashion of a Friendship Sloop. It was relatively small, something
like 20 foot LOD as I recall. Maybe a little less or a little more.
Searching the web for Bolger designs has not turned up a trace, nor is
it in the Bolger books at the local bookstore.
Anyone know about this design? (Or maybe I just dreamt I saw it?)
-rcf
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Sweet lines, I'm liking that fantail better than the transom I'm
seeing on what I believe is Fancy. Thanks for the references. I like
that Liseroid too.
seeing on what I believe is Fancy. Thanks for the references. I like
that Liseroid too.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> Here are isometric renderings of a Monhegan...
>
>http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/1382822104/
>
> 18 feet LOA, not counting the bowsprit.
>
> She looks complex, but not really. I think she would be a
relatively
> easy strip built from longwise ripped Home Depot cheap 2x6's. Made
> fair with a 4 1/2" angle grinder and sanding pad with 36 grit
paper.
> Fast because of the small size.
>
> One of those rare Bolger boats that uses interior concrete ballast,
> poured in concrete.
>
> The plans call for an inside motor, and I have been dreaming of
trying
> one of those $800 old fashion cast iron low RPM (800rpm) Lister
clone
> 1 cylinder diesel single bangers, which I think would fit nice in
that
> cuddy.
>
> Listoroids
>
>http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/001011.php
>
Here are isometric renderings of a Monhegan...
http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/1382822104/
18 feet LOA, not counting the bowsprit.
She looks complex, but not really. I think she would be a relatively
easy strip built from longwise ripped Home Depot cheap 2x6's. Made
fair with a 4 1/2" angle grinder and sanding pad with 36 grit paper.
Fast because of the small size.
One of those rare Bolger boats that uses interior concrete ballast,
poured in concrete.
The plans call for an inside motor, and I have been dreaming of trying
one of those $800 old fashion cast iron low RPM (800rpm) Lister clone
1 cylinder diesel single bangers, which I think would fit nice in that
cuddy.
Listoroids
http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/001011.php
http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/1382822104/
18 feet LOA, not counting the bowsprit.
She looks complex, but not really. I think she would be a relatively
easy strip built from longwise ripped Home Depot cheap 2x6's. Made
fair with a 4 1/2" angle grinder and sanding pad with 36 grit paper.
Fast because of the small size.
One of those rare Bolger boats that uses interior concrete ballast,
poured in concrete.
The plans call for an inside motor, and I have been dreaming of trying
one of those $800 old fashion cast iron low RPM (800rpm) Lister clone
1 cylinder diesel single bangers, which I think would fit nice in that
cuddy.
Listoroids
http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/001011.php
> more useful daysailers than Monhegan.If I recall correctly, Monhegan was designed as a 'daysailer' for a
very special niche. Those being able to sail in the confused waters
chopped by motorboat wakes (and be pretty whilst doing so). I bet
that big chunk of concrete ballast in her bilge, plus the fine lines
of her hull probably would make Monhegan a great daysailer for use
around motorboat chop.
A profile drawing of Monhegan was published in "Motor Boating and Sailing" in the early '70's. I was smitten and that drawing did more to shape my tastes in boats than anything else. It wasn't until i saw a picture of a finished boat in "Woodenboat" some 15 years later that I realized that monhegan has been scaled down to the point where it is almost a model and unsuitable for normal size people (Sort of like a Cape Dory Typhoon).
Since your recollection of the design is for a lapstrake boat, it is possible that 'Fancy' is the boat you saw. Another possibility for a small full keel sloop with lovely lines is 'Yarrow'--a miniature Tancook Whaler in Small Boats or the somewhat larger 'Keel Whaler Sloop' in 30 Odd Boats. Neither is a Friendship Sloop. but they are both awfully pretty and, IMHO, more useful daysailers than Monhegan.
JohnT
Since your recollection of the design is for a lapstrake boat, it is possible that 'Fancy' is the boat you saw. Another possibility for a small full keel sloop with lovely lines is 'Yarrow'--a miniature Tancook Whaler in Small Boats or the somewhat larger 'Keel Whaler Sloop' in 30 Odd Boats. Neither is a Friendship Sloop. but they are both awfully pretty and, IMHO, more useful daysailers than Monhegan.
JohnT
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From: maicorick3
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:47 PM
Subject: [bolger] Bolger designed Friendship Sloop
I believe I once came across a small sloop designed by Mr. Bolger in
the fashion of a Friendship Sloop. It was relatively small, something
like 20 foot LOD as I recall. Maybe a little less or a little more.
Searching the web for Bolger designs has not turned up a trace, nor is
it in the Bolger books at the local bookstore.
Anyone know about this design? (Or maybe I just dreamt I saw it?)
-rcf
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On Sep 11, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Bruce Hallman wrote:
> I agree you are probably remembering either Monhegan or Fancy, those[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> are two well known from Bolger's books. Though with 700 designs, I
> bet that Phil Bolger has designed several more that are obscure.
>
>
I agree you are probably remembering either Monhegan or Fancy, those
are two well known from Bolger's books. Though with 700 designs, I
bet that Phil Bolger has designed several more that are obscure.
are two well known from Bolger's books. Though with 700 designs, I
bet that Phil Bolger has designed several more that are obscure.
Poking around the web I found a couple pictures of the boat that
started my inquiry. The person who posted the pics thinks it might
be a Bolger Fancy. Thanks for directing me to where I can find the
design info.
http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Truancy-1.jpg
http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Truancy-2.jpg
The PT Wooden Boat Fest is where I saw the boat.
I talked to the guy in the 2nd pic. That boat looked pretty nimble,
and he was pretty impressive in handling her. He sailed around
inside the port some, and heading back to his spot on the dock
(fast) one would swear he was gonna crash on the rocks. But he would
whip her around, let fly the sails, and gently glide to her spot.
My recollection was wrong about her being lapstrake.
-rcf
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bruce couchman" <squarebows@...>
wrote:
started my inquiry. The person who posted the pics thinks it might
be a Bolger Fancy. Thanks for directing me to where I can find the
design info.
http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Truancy-1.jpg
http://www.boat-links.com/PT/PT2000/Truancy-2.jpg
The PT Wooden Boat Fest is where I saw the boat.
I talked to the guy in the 2nd pic. That boat looked pretty nimble,
and he was pretty impressive in handling her. He sailed around
inside the port some, and heading back to his spot on the dock
(fast) one would swear he was gonna crash on the rocks. But he would
whip her around, let fly the sails, and gently glide to her spot.
My recollection was wrong about her being lapstrake.
-rcf
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bruce couchman" <squarebows@...>
wrote:
>in
> Perhaps the boat your describing is the Monhegan, an 18x7x3'6"
> friendship whose plans are in "Small Boats" Also in "Small Boats",
> fact the next design, is Master Hand; a larger friendship atluck.
> 22"6"x18'9"x7'11"x4"0". Try interlibrary loan for the book. Good
> Bruce CouchmanBolger in
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "maicorick3" <rickf@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I believe I once came across a small sloop designed by Mr.
> > the fashion of a Friendship Sloop. It was relatively small,something
> > like 20 foot LOD as I recall. Maybe a little less or a littlemore.
> >nor is
> > Searching the web for Bolger designs has not turned up a trace,
> > it in the Bolger books at the local bookstore.it?)
> >
> > Anyone know about this design? (Or maybe I just dreamt I saw
> >
> > -rcf
> >
>
Thanks for the responses.
Either of those are the appropriate length, I'll check them out.
Is there a place online that I can review these, or am I destined to
the bookstore/library? (I see now one of you already said try inter-
library loan ... I will, but of course, here I sit looking for
instant gratification on the web.)
From my point of view, which is from an 8000 lb 31 foot William
Atkin cutter, the typical Friendship sloop isn't all that deep or
heavy. I believe they were actually intended for relatively shallow
east coast waters.
As I recall, the one I am looking for is not a tack-n-tape design.
I recall it being a rather curvacious lapstrake centerboard board
boat.
-rcf
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bruce couchman" <squarebows@...>
wrote:
Either of those are the appropriate length, I'll check them out.
Is there a place online that I can review these, or am I destined to
the bookstore/library? (I see now one of you already said try inter-
library loan ... I will, but of course, here I sit looking for
instant gratification on the web.)
From my point of view, which is from an 8000 lb 31 foot William
Atkin cutter, the typical Friendship sloop isn't all that deep or
heavy. I believe they were actually intended for relatively shallow
east coast waters.
As I recall, the one I am looking for is not a tack-n-tape design.
I recall it being a rather curvacious lapstrake centerboard board
boat.
-rcf
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bruce couchman" <squarebows@...>
wrote:
>in
> Perhaps the boat your describing is the Monhegan, an 18x7x3'6"
> friendship whose plans are in "Small Boats" Also in "Small Boats",
> fact the next design, is Master Hand; a larger friendship atluck.
> 22"6"x18'9"x7'11"x4"0". Try interlibrary loan for the book. Good
> Bruce CouchmanBolger in
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "maicorick3" <rickf@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I believe I once came across a small sloop designed by Mr.
> > the fashion of a Friendship Sloop. It was relatively small,something
> > like 20 foot LOD as I recall. Maybe a little less or a littlemore.
> >nor is
> > Searching the web for Bolger designs has not turned up a trace,
> > it in the Bolger books at the local bookstore.it?)
> >
> > Anyone know about this design? (Or maybe I just dreamt I saw
> >
> > -rcf
> >
>
Perhaps the boat your describing is the Monhegan, an 18x7x3'6"
friendship whose plans are in "Small Boats" Also in "Small Boats", in
fact the next design, is Master Hand; a larger friendship at
22"6"x18'9"x7'11"x4"0". Try interlibrary loan for the book. Good luck.
Bruce Couchman
friendship whose plans are in "Small Boats" Also in "Small Boats", in
fact the next design, is Master Hand; a larger friendship at
22"6"x18'9"x7'11"x4"0". Try interlibrary loan for the book. Good luck.
Bruce Couchman
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "maicorick3" <rickf@...> wrote:
>
>
> I believe I once came across a small sloop designed by Mr. Bolger in
> the fashion of a Friendship Sloop. It was relatively small, something
> like 20 foot LOD as I recall. Maybe a little less or a little more.
>
> Searching the web for Bolger designs has not turned up a trace, nor is
> it in the Bolger books at the local bookstore.
>
> Anyone know about this design? (Or maybe I just dreamt I saw it?)
>
> -rcf
>
Perhaps "Fancy", design #394, length overall 15'7", length waterline 13'3" ?
From chapter 29 of _30 Odd Boats_ (which has a beautiful picture of
this sloop on the dustjacket):
He said his customer wanted her to "look like a Friendship sloop." My
snap reaction was that it wouldn't be easy to think of a type as
unsuited to the purpose as the deep, heavy, inside-ballasted,
carvel-planked Friendships. Presently, I reflected that there had been
the Muscongus Bay sloops, also built and sailed around Friendship,
Maine, and that they had been light, lapstrake centerboarders. They
looked similar afloat ...
maicorick3 wrote:
From chapter 29 of _30 Odd Boats_ (which has a beautiful picture of
this sloop on the dustjacket):
He said his customer wanted her to "look like a Friendship sloop." My
snap reaction was that it wouldn't be easy to think of a type as
unsuited to the purpose as the deep, heavy, inside-ballasted,
carvel-planked Friendships. Presently, I reflected that there had been
the Muscongus Bay sloops, also built and sailed around Friendship,
Maine, and that they had been light, lapstrake centerboarders. They
looked similar afloat ...
maicorick3 wrote:
> I believe I once came across a small sloop designed by Mr. Bolger in
> the fashion of a Friendship Sloop. It was relatively small, something
> like 20 foot LOD as I recall. Maybe a little less or a little more.
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> Searching the web for Bolger designs has not turned up a trace, nor is
> it in the Bolger books at the local bookstore.
>
> Anyone know about this design? (Or maybe I just dreamt I saw it?)
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> -rcf
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I believe I once came across a small sloop designed by Mr. Bolger in
the fashion of a Friendship Sloop. It was relatively small, something
like 20 foot LOD as I recall. Maybe a little less or a little more.
Searching the web for Bolger designs has not turned up a trace, nor is
it in the Bolger books at the local bookstore.
Anyone know about this design? (Or maybe I just dreamt I saw it?)
-rcf
the fashion of a Friendship Sloop. It was relatively small, something
like 20 foot LOD as I recall. Maybe a little less or a little more.
Searching the web for Bolger designs has not turned up a trace, nor is
it in the Bolger books at the local bookstore.
Anyone know about this design? (Or maybe I just dreamt I saw it?)
-rcf