Re: On the water.
Garth,
Nice table. Rend Lake next year will have another boat. Maybe I'll be
able to cox Jim into taking a flight with me...lol.
Jim
Nice table. Rend Lake next year will have another boat. Maybe I'll be
able to cox Jim into taking a flight with me...lol.
Jim
>40
> Great story of sailing the Light Schooner.
>
> Your comment about gusts being like turning on a 10 horse motor are
> pretty spot-on. Recently over on the Michalak list we've been
> discussing HP needed to row or motor against a headwind, and I found
> this table of HP per sq. feet of area for various wind speeds:
>
> Wind MPH HP per sq. foot
> 10 0.013
> 15 0 044
> 20 0.105
> 25 0.205
> 30 0.354
> 40 0.84
> 50 1.64
> 60 2.83
> 80 6.72
> 100 13.12
>
> If you have the LS wung out, main and mizzen all showing, that's 177
> sq. feet, not counting exposed hull area. So a 15 MPH wind gives you
> 7.79 HP. And a 20 MPH wind gets you 18.6 HP. Wowza! Take her out in
> MPH winds and experience the thrill of 148 HP. . . .
>
> Garth
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Kessler" <jkess777@...> wrote:
Great story of sailing the Light Schooner.
Your comment about gusts being like turning on a 10 horse motor are
pretty spot-on. Recently over on the Michalak list we've been
discussing HP needed to row or motor against a headwind, and I found
this table of HP per sq. feet of area for various wind speeds:
Wind MPH HP per sq. foot
10 0.013
15 0 044
20 0.105
25 0.205
30 0.354
40 0.84
50 1.64
60 2.83
80 6.72
100 13.12
If you have the LS wung out, main and mizzen all showing, that's 177
sq. feet, not counting exposed hull area. So a 15 MPH wind gives you
7.79 HP. And a 20 MPH wind gets you 18.6 HP. Wowza! Take her out in 40
MPH winds and experience the thrill of 148 HP. . . .
Garth
>Gusts of wind in this position seem like turning on a 10Jim --
> horse motor.
Great story of sailing the Light Schooner.
Your comment about gusts being like turning on a 10 horse motor are
pretty spot-on. Recently over on the Michalak list we've been
discussing HP needed to row or motor against a headwind, and I found
this table of HP per sq. feet of area for various wind speeds:
Wind MPH HP per sq. foot
10 0.013
15 0 044
20 0.105
25 0.205
30 0.354
40 0.84
50 1.64
60 2.83
80 6.72
100 13.12
If you have the LS wung out, main and mizzen all showing, that's 177
sq. feet, not counting exposed hull area. So a 15 MPH wind gives you
7.79 HP. And a 20 MPH wind gets you 18.6 HP. Wowza! Take her out in 40
MPH winds and experience the thrill of 148 HP. . . .
Garth
Graeme,
Thanks Graeme.
We sailed the boat all night then the next day...yeh call me crazy.
Ended up with 20 knot winds...wow oh wow...this boat is fast. I
really pushed her to the limits of the wind. She is an amazing ride.
We had a great shackdown with her. I beached her on a lee shore (the
local lake beach) and was able to beat back with main only. Sailed
her into a lee marina and did the same with the main only.
With all sails up and sheets pulled tight we heeled like a dinghy and
went for the ride of our lives. This boat is the most exciting boat I
have ever sailed.
Of course knockdown is the result of a continued push and it finally
happened with a big gust while already heeled to the limit. Consider
a 5' drop from the rail and the distance of your body to your eyes.
It seemed like a 10' drop to the water. I swam around quickly and got
on the daggerboard and she righted quickly. The water tight
compartments worked great. The masts allowed around an inch of water
into those compartments(shimming them would stop that much). We
bailed her and went at it again.
We beat up to a bridge and sheeted out wing to wing and she found her
own wind and took us all the way across the lake without touching the
tiller. Gusts of wind in this position seem like turning on a 10
horse motor. Actually any way we sheeted her she found her own wind
and went happily on her way with no regards of the helmsman.
The only way to stop her was to put her in irons which after awhile
was a happy though rare occurance.
This design may not be for everyone. It is a fast exciting boat full
of thrills and possible spills. And I couldnt have picked a better
design to build. She combines function with elegance. PB really out
did himself with this wonderful little ship.
Cheers,
Jim
I'll try to get pictures of sailing her at her formal launching party.
Thanks Graeme.
We sailed the boat all night then the next day...yeh call me crazy.
Ended up with 20 knot winds...wow oh wow...this boat is fast. I
really pushed her to the limits of the wind. She is an amazing ride.
We had a great shackdown with her. I beached her on a lee shore (the
local lake beach) and was able to beat back with main only. Sailed
her into a lee marina and did the same with the main only.
With all sails up and sheets pulled tight we heeled like a dinghy and
went for the ride of our lives. This boat is the most exciting boat I
have ever sailed.
Of course knockdown is the result of a continued push and it finally
happened with a big gust while already heeled to the limit. Consider
a 5' drop from the rail and the distance of your body to your eyes.
It seemed like a 10' drop to the water. I swam around quickly and got
on the daggerboard and she righted quickly. The water tight
compartments worked great. The masts allowed around an inch of water
into those compartments(shimming them would stop that much). We
bailed her and went at it again.
We beat up to a bridge and sheeted out wing to wing and she found her
own wind and took us all the way across the lake without touching the
tiller. Gusts of wind in this position seem like turning on a 10
horse motor. Actually any way we sheeted her she found her own wind
and went happily on her way with no regards of the helmsman.
The only way to stop her was to put her in irons which after awhile
was a happy though rare occurance.
This design may not be for everyone. It is a fast exciting boat full
of thrills and possible spills. And I couldnt have picked a better
design to build. She combines function with elegance. PB really out
did himself with this wonderful little ship.
Cheers,
Jim
I'll try to get pictures of sailing her at her formal launching party.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Kessler" <jkess777@...> wrote:
Hope you have better wind soon. I'm sure those local trailer sailors
will be even more impressed with your Scooner! Be sure to show us some
sailing pics in your album when you can :-)
Graeme
> ...Got the boat on the water today...Hey, congratulations Jim!
Hope you have better wind soon. I'm sure those local trailer sailors
will be even more impressed with your Scooner! Be sure to show us some
sailing pics in your album when you can :-)
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Kessler" <jkess777@...> wrote:
> Got the boat on the water today.
Hello all,
Got the boat on the water today. I didn't get the captains wheel
installed but I slapped together a tiller and hit the water. The light
scooner glides on the water. There was very light winds and they finally
died so we had to paddle her back in. I was surprised how easily one
canoe paddle moved her. As for trailoring she pops right off the trailor
and getting her back in is just as simple.
I joined the local yacht club so the boat is stored there. All the
members can't wait for a ride. They mostly have large displacement cabin
trailor sailors of glass. They are sincerly impressed with the light
scooner.
Cheers,
Jim
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Got the boat on the water today. I didn't get the captains wheel
installed but I slapped together a tiller and hit the water. The light
scooner glides on the water. There was very light winds and they finally
died so we had to paddle her back in. I was surprised how easily one
canoe paddle moved her. As for trailoring she pops right off the trailor
and getting her back in is just as simple.
I joined the local yacht club so the boat is stored there. All the
members can't wait for a ride. They mostly have large displacement cabin
trailor sailors of glass. They are sincerly impressed with the light
scooner.
Cheers,
Jim
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