Re: Casting from Gypsy
Hi, uh, shall I call you Sloppy?
how satisfying is it to row for a long time and distance. A longer,
leaner design might be more enjoyable - like the two I use now.
bat. I was trying to save weight so I could carry it, but now that I
concocted a "boat barrow" I don't have to worry about it so much.
some in my files somewhere. The problem is that the machine I use for
image processessing and to maintain my website went Tango Uniform in
July and I haven't got around to fixing or replacing it yet. Stay
tuned.
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
> I had the same problem as you. I went with the 10'6" Pointy Skiff.IThat's how big my alleged PWD is, too. The question with Pointy is
> fish with my 50# dog it is fine.
how satisfying is it to row for a long time and distance. A longer,
leaner design might be more enjoyable - like the two I use now.
> Another option would be the 12' Fisherman's skiff. I would recommendThat one has crossed my mind as well.
> putting a skeg on either.
> I have read that the cross braces on the QT can be removed if you addYeah, modifying QT is a snap and I should have done it right off the
> frames. Look in Duckworks projects section. It sounds as if you
> *might* remove them without modification.
bat. I was trying to save weight so I could carry it, but now that I
concocted a "boat barrow" I don't have to worry about it so much.
> Do you have any photos of you QT build.I don't have any QT photos posted on my website, although I do have
> I am looking at the power version of the QT, as the Pointy skiff has
> rocker.
some in my files somewhere. The problem is that the machine I use for
image processessing and to maintain my website went Tango Uniform in
July and I haven't got around to fixing or replacing it yet. Stay
tuned.
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the suggestion. I have the book and will look that one up.
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
> It isn't a Bolger, but have you looked at the modified McInnisBateau in
> John Gardner's _Building Classic Small Craft vol 2_ ? The originaland
> design is multichine plywood that might lend itself to modern tape
> glue, and is said to be 63 lb and stable enough to stand in whilecasting.
Thanks for the suggestion. I have the book and will look that one up.
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
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<jon@...> wrote:
I had the same problem as you. I went with the 10'6" Pointy Skiff.I
fish with my 50# dog it is fine.
Another option would be the 12' Fisherman's skiff. I would recommend
putting a skeg on either.
I have read that the cross braces on the QT can be removed if you add
frames. Look in Duckworks projects section. It sounds as if you
*might* remove them without modification.
Do you have any photos of you QT build.
I am looking at the power version of the QT, as the Pointy skiff has
rocker.
Good Luck
<jon@...> wrote:
>Canoe &
> Bob and all,
>
> > You don't have to stand to fly cast. Read the July issue of
> > Kayak to see how popular fly fishing from kayaks has become! Idid
> somethat
> > fly fishing from my solo canoe last winter in Florida without any
> > problems. Well, no problems with the casting anyway. I had never
> > fished saltwater before and found out that I hadn't a clue as to
> what
> > kind of flies to use, so the catching wasn't to great!
>
> Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. I should have mentioned
> I'm only interested in light rowing designs. A couple of the lakesI
> like to fish are hand launch only, no IC engines, and some of themthe
> can't be reached with trailers. Some others are simply easier on
> boat on if it can fit in the bed of the pickup instead of beingI
> hammered to death by trailering over bad roads.
>
> Kayaks, or double paddle canoes in my case, certainly work fine and
> have use mine for fishing. I've also rowed/trolled my Long LightDory
> and Michalak Robote craft for over five hours at a time. Timeflies
> when the fish are hitting. When they aren't, good rowing qualitiesmy
> are a must in order to get satisfying workout. The motivation for
> question was the desire to stand up and stretch my legs and backafter
> sitting for so long, without having to beach and get out of theboat.
> I can stand briefly in the dory, but I'm with Sam that this is muchoars,
> better to do on the shore than in the middle of the lake.
>
> I thought of Gypsy first because it is a known performer under
> is quick and cheap to build, and I have the plans at hand. Junebugprobably
> would also fit my requirements, as would Redmond's Whisp, and
> a couple of Welsford's designs. I don't see where the Nichollsclutter
> Flyfisher will be any more stable than a Junebug or the others.
>
> I built a Michalk QT Skiff that still needs some interior finishing
> before launching, but I don't like the way the cross-braces
> up the interior, especially if my dog is aboard. I should have,and
> may still, deck over the ends to solve this problem. I doubt Ihave
> $100 in the boat, so it can be an ongoing experiment.Hi Jon,
>
> Jon Kolb
> www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
>
I had the same problem as you. I went with the 10'6" Pointy Skiff.I
fish with my 50# dog it is fine.
Another option would be the 12' Fisherman's skiff. I would recommend
putting a skeg on either.
I have read that the cross braces on the QT can be removed if you add
frames. Look in Duckworks projects section. It sounds as if you
*might* remove them without modification.
Do you have any photos of you QT build.
I am looking at the power version of the QT, as the Pointy skiff has
rocker.
Good Luck
It isn't a Bolger, but have you looked at the modified McInnis Bateau in
John Gardner's _Building Classic Small Craft vol 2_ ? The original
design is multichine plywood that might lend itself to modern tape and
glue, and is said to be 63 lb and stable enough to stand in while casting.
- Mike
John Gardner's _Building Classic Small Craft vol 2_ ? The original
design is multichine plywood that might lend itself to modern tape and
glue, and is said to be 63 lb and stable enough to stand in while casting.
- Mike
Bob and all,
I'm only interested in light rowing designs. A couple of the lakes I
like to fish are hand launch only, no IC engines, and some of them
can't be reached with trailers. Some others are simply easier on the
boat on if it can fit in the bed of the pickup instead of being
hammered to death by trailering over bad roads.
Kayaks, or double paddle canoes in my case, certainly work fine and I
have use mine for fishing. I've also rowed/trolled my Long Light Dory
and Michalak Robote craft for over five hours at a time. Time flies
when the fish are hitting. When they aren't, good rowing qualities
are a must in order to get satisfying workout. The motivation for my
question was the desire to stand up and stretch my legs and back after
sitting for so long, without having to beach and get out of the boat.
I can stand briefly in the dory, but I'm with Sam that this is much
better to do on the shore than in the middle of the lake.
I thought of Gypsy first because it is a known performer under oars,
is quick and cheap to build, and I have the plans at hand. Junebug
would also fit my requirements, as would Redmond's Whisp, and probably
a couple of Welsford's designs. I don't see where the Nicholls
Flyfisher will be any more stable than a Junebug or the others.
I built a Michalk QT Skiff that still needs some interior finishing
before launching, but I don't like the way the cross-braces clutter
up the interior, especially if my dog is aboard. I should have, and
may still, deck over the ends to solve this problem. I doubt I have
$100 in the boat, so it can be an ongoing experiment.
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
> You don't have to stand to fly cast. Read the July issue of Canoe &some
> Kayak to see how popular fly fishing from kayaks has become! I did
> fly fishing from my solo canoe last winter in Florida without anywhat
> problems. Well, no problems with the casting anyway. I had never
> fished saltwater before and found out that I hadn't a clue as to
> kind of flies to use, so the catching wasn't to great!Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. I should have mentioned that
I'm only interested in light rowing designs. A couple of the lakes I
like to fish are hand launch only, no IC engines, and some of them
can't be reached with trailers. Some others are simply easier on the
boat on if it can fit in the bed of the pickup instead of being
hammered to death by trailering over bad roads.
Kayaks, or double paddle canoes in my case, certainly work fine and I
have use mine for fishing. I've also rowed/trolled my Long Light Dory
and Michalak Robote craft for over five hours at a time. Time flies
when the fish are hitting. When they aren't, good rowing qualities
are a must in order to get satisfying workout. The motivation for my
question was the desire to stand up and stretch my legs and back after
sitting for so long, without having to beach and get out of the boat.
I can stand briefly in the dory, but I'm with Sam that this is much
better to do on the shore than in the middle of the lake.
I thought of Gypsy first because it is a known performer under oars,
is quick and cheap to build, and I have the plans at hand. Junebug
would also fit my requirements, as would Redmond's Whisp, and probably
a couple of Welsford's designs. I don't see where the Nicholls
Flyfisher will be any more stable than a Junebug or the others.
I built a Michalk QT Skiff that still needs some interior finishing
before launching, but I don't like the way the cross-braces clutter
up the interior, especially if my dog is aboard. I should have, and
may still, deck over the ends to solve this problem. I doubt I have
$100 in the boat, so it can be an ongoing experiment.
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
You don't have to stand to fly cast. Read the July issue of Canoe &
Kayak to see how popular fly fishing from kayaks has become! I did some
fly fishing from my solo canoe last winter in Florida without any
problems. Well, no problems with the casting anyway. I had never
fished saltwater before and found out that I hadn't a clue as to what
kind of flies to use, so the catching wasn't to great!
Bob
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "adventures_in_astrophotography"
<jon@...> wrote:
Kayak to see how popular fly fishing from kayaks has become! I did some
fly fishing from my solo canoe last winter in Florida without any
problems. Well, no problems with the casting anyway. I had never
fished saltwater before and found out that I hadn't a clue as to what
kind of flies to use, so the catching wasn't to great!
Bob
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "adventures_in_astrophotography"
<jon@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone with a Gypsy care to comment on whether it's stable enough to
> stand up and fly-fish or cast from? Both my Long Light Dory and
> Michalak Robote are too tender for these activities, the latter
> disastrously so (although they work great for trolling).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jon Kolb
> www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
>
Maybe called a "Brick"
Bryant Owen wrote:
Bryant Owen wrote:
> As stable as it is, June Bug would not be my first choice for a[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> casting boat if that was it's main purpose.
>
> All things considered - and if money/time are not a major issue -
> there are more flyfishing specific designs out there. Nicholl's Lutra
> Flyfisher comes to mind. (see Duckworks Plan section).
>
> Having said that, I'd certainly argue for the development of a good
> "cost efficient" fly fishing boat.
>
> Bryant
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com<mailto:bolger%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
> >
> > On 9/17/07, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > You need a June Bug for that.
> >
> > See specifically this picture:
> >
> >http://www.akzeigers.com/Images/stability02.jpg
> <http://www.akzeigers.com/Images/stability02.jpg>
> >
> > Amazing.
> >
> > The slab sides give initial stability. Both for the June Bug, but
> > also for all the Bolger designs with slab sides. (First hand
> > testimony: With the Tortoise and the Micro too.)
> >
>
>
> > I'd certainly argue for the development of a goodYes they are, and Jon boats are known to be some of the best fly fishing
> > "cost efficient" fly fishing boat.
>
> How about Jim Mikalak's Jonsboat? As an added
> bonus, the plans are free with his "Boatbuilding
> for Beginners and Beyond" book.
boats out there. Few designers create plans for boats that are easier
to build than Jim Michalak too.
Sincerely,
Ken Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
www.bagacayboatworks.com
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
Fishcat.
wrote:
>Two Pirogues with a bridgedeck?
> Robote with a Toto outrigger?
Fishcat.
Oddly I was thinking more along the lines of rowing version of Jon Jr.
Jonboat is great but a bit oversized for the job at hand. Absolutely
right about the book. Almost built a Jonboat this spring and you can
definitely do it with what's in the book.
Bryant
Jonboat is great but a bit oversized for the job at hand. Absolutely
right about the book. Almost built a Jonboat this spring and you can
definitely do it with what's in the book.
Bryant
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Breton Losch" <b.losch@...> wrote:
>
> On 9/17/07, Bryant Owen <mariner@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Having said that, I'd certainly argue for the development of a good
> > "cost efficient" fly fishing boat.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> How about Jim Mikalak's Jonsboat?
>
>http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/jonsboat/index.htm
>
> as an added bonus, the plans are free with his "Boatbuilding for
Beginners
> and Beyond" book.
>
>
>
> --
> "Govern a great nation as you would cook a small fish. Do not overdo
it."
>
> -- Lao Tzu
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Robote with a Toto outrigger?
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Breton Losch" <b.losch@...> wrote:
>
> On 9/17/07, Bryant Owen <mariner@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Having said that, I'd certainly argue for the development of a
good
> > "cost efficient" fly fishing boat.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> How about Jim Mikalak's Jonsboat?
>
>http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/jonsboat/index.htm
>
> as an added bonus, the plans are free with his "Boatbuilding for
Beginners
> and Beyond" book.
>
>
>
> --
> "Govern a great nation as you would cook a small fish. Do not
overdo it."
>
> -- Lao Tzu
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
On 9/17/07, Bryant Owen <mariner@...> wrote:
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/jonsboat/index.htm
as an added bonus, the plans are free with his "Boatbuilding for Beginners
and Beyond" book.
--
"Govern a great nation as you would cook a small fish. Do not overdo it."
-- Lao Tzu
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>How about Jim Mikalak's Jonsboat?
>
> Having said that, I'd certainly argue for the development of a good
> "cost efficient" fly fishing boat.
>
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/jonsboat/index.htm
as an added bonus, the plans are free with his "Boatbuilding for Beginners
and Beyond" book.
--
"Govern a great nation as you would cook a small fish. Do not overdo it."
-- Lao Tzu
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
As stable as it is, June Bug would not be my first choice for a
casting boat if that was it's main purpose.
All things considered - and if money/time are not a major issue -
there are more flyfishing specific designs out there. Nicholl's Lutra
Flyfisher comes to mind. (see Duckworks Plan section).
Having said that, I'd certainly argue for the development of a good
"cost efficient" fly fishing boat.
Bryant
casting boat if that was it's main purpose.
All things considered - and if money/time are not a major issue -
there are more flyfishing specific designs out there. Nicholl's Lutra
Flyfisher comes to mind. (see Duckworks Plan section).
Having said that, I'd certainly argue for the development of a good
"cost efficient" fly fishing boat.
Bryant
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> On 9/17/07, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
> >
> > You need a June Bug for that.
>
> See specifically this picture:
>
>http://www.akzeigers.com/Images/stability02.jpg
>
> Amazing.
>
> The slab sides give initial stability. Both for the June Bug, but
> also for all the Bolger designs with slab sides. (First hand
> testimony: With the Tortoise and the Micro too.)
>
Thanks Bruce for picking out the individual image I was aiming at when I
pointed to Mark's site. I would like to point out one other pic on the
site that I have mentioned before as it is one of the all time great
Bolger boat sailing shots. I used it as my wallpaper on my computer when
I was deployed to remind me of home.
http://www.akzeigers.com/Images/bernersjb.jpg
HJ
Bruce Hallman wrote:
pointed to Mark's site. I would like to point out one other pic on the
site that I have mentioned before as it is one of the all time great
Bolger boat sailing shots. I used it as my wallpaper on my computer when
I was deployed to remind me of home.
http://www.akzeigers.com/Images/bernersjb.jpg
HJ
Bruce Hallman wrote:
> On 9/17/07, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>> You need a June Bug for that.
>>
>
> See specifically this picture:
>
>http://www.akzeigers.com/Images/stability02.jpg
>
> Amazing.
>
> The slab sides give initial stability. Both for the June Bug, but
> also for all the Bolger designs with slab sides. (First hand
> testimony: With the Tortoise and the Micro too.)
>
>
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Nope
You need a June Bug for that.
http://www.akzeigers.com/JB.html
HJ
adventures_in_astrophotography wrote:
You need a June Bug for that.
http://www.akzeigers.com/JB.html
HJ
adventures_in_astrophotography wrote:
> Anyone with a Gypsy care to comment on whether it's stable enough to
> stand up and fly-fish or cast from? Both my Long Light Dory and
> Michalak Robote are too tender for these activities, the latter
> disastrously so (although they work great for trolling).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jon Kolb
> www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
>
>
>
On 9/17/07, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
http://www.akzeigers.com/Images/stability02.jpg
Amazing.
The slab sides give initial stability. Both for the June Bug, but
also for all the Bolger designs with slab sides. (First hand
testimony: With the Tortoise and the Micro too.)
>See specifically this picture:
> You need a June Bug for that.
http://www.akzeigers.com/Images/stability02.jpg
Amazing.
The slab sides give initial stability. Both for the June Bug, but
also for all the Bolger designs with slab sides. (First hand
testimony: With the Tortoise and the Micro too.)
The key to standing and fly-casting from a Long Light
Dory is to keep it on the beach. I never had any
stability problems stnding in mine unless it was in
the water. Sam
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Dory is to keep it on the beach. I never had any
stability problems stnding in mine unless it was in
the water. Sam
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<jon@...> wrote:
> Anyone with a Gypsy care to comment on whether it's____________________________________________________________________________________
> stable enough to
> stand up and fly-fish or cast from? Both my Long
> Light Dory and
> Michalak Robote are too tender for these activities,
> the latter
> disastrously so (although they work great for
> trolling).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jon Kolb
> www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
>
>
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No, it's not stable at all when you are not sailing. I do not recomend it
for fly-fish neither stand up :)
¿Perhaps a June bug?
Regards, Máximo.
for fly-fish neither stand up :)
¿Perhaps a June bug?
Regards, Máximo.
Anyone with a Gypsy care to comment on whether it's stable enough to
stand up and fly-fish or cast from? Both my Long Light Dory and
Michalak Robote are too tender for these activities, the latter
disastrously so (although they work great for trolling).
Thanks,
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
stand up and fly-fish or cast from? Both my Long Light Dory and
Michalak Robote are too tender for these activities, the latter
disastrously so (although they work great for trolling).
Thanks,
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm