Re: A floppy Rubens Nymph
He was also famous for his sculptures!
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The Rubens Nymph is indeed named after the painter Rubens. The earlier
incarnation of the design was called "Nymph" but it proved too tender
and not burdensome enough. And so, Bolger widened the beam, making it
significantly more corpulent, and redubbed it "Rubens Nymph" for its
larger frame.
bolger@yahoogroups.comwrote:
incarnation of the design was called "Nymph" but it proved too tender
and not burdensome enough. And so, Bolger widened the beam, making it
significantly more corpulent, and redubbed it "Rubens Nymph" for its
larger frame.
bolger@yahoogroups.comwrote:
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> Posted by: "N/A"jim_blessing@...tenn_squire7
> Date: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:24 am ((PDT))
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> If I remember right Peter Paul Rubens painted scantily clad ladies of
> somewhat large proportion back at the end of the 16th century. The
> paintings were so famous that even today you will hear the
> term "Rubenesque" used to describe the figure of attractive "big
> girls". You can imagine my interest when I saw the title to this
> string... Unfortuneately, it looks like we are staying on topic and
> talking about boats rather than shapely mythical forest creatures :-(
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> Hope some of you will share my warped sense of humor,
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> Jim
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> Posted by: "N/A"jim_blessing@...tenn_squire7
> Date: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:25 am ((PDT))
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> If I remember right Peter Paul Rubens painted scantily clad ladies of
> somewhat large proportion back at the end of the 16th century. The
> paintings were so famous that even today you will hear the
> term "Rubenesque" used to describe the figure of attractive "big
> girls". You can imagine my interest when I saw the title to this
> string... Unfortuneately, it looks like we are staying on topic and
> talking about boats rather than shapely mythical forest creatures :-(
>
> Hope some of you will share my warped sense of humor,
>
> Jim
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If I remember right Peter Paul Rubens painted scantily clad ladies of
somewhat large proportion back at the end of the 16th century. The
paintings were so famous that even today you will hear the
term "Rubenesque" used to describe the figure of attractive "big
girls". You can imagine my interest when I saw the title to this
string... Unfortuneately, it looks like we are staying on topic and
talking about boats rather than shapely mythical forest creatures :-(
Hope some of you will share my warped sense of humor,
Jim
somewhat large proportion back at the end of the 16th century. The
paintings were so famous that even today you will hear the
term "Rubenesque" used to describe the figure of attractive "big
girls". You can imagine my interest when I saw the title to this
string... Unfortuneately, it looks like we are staying on topic and
talking about boats rather than shapely mythical forest creatures :-(
Hope some of you will share my warped sense of humor,
Jim
I have built and sailed the Rubens Nymph. It will stiffen up a bit
when the seams are epoxied and taped. My boat did not get really
stiff until the center seat was installed. I did not use the blocks
to hold the panels together that Payson calls for in the building
instructions. I just wired everything together then made the fillets
and installed fiberglass tape over the wire. The boat should be
supported well enough while gluing the seams to keep it from becoming
twisted.
I generally sit very near the center of the boat while sailing. I am
centered both side to side and fore and aft. The boat is so wide that
if you sat near the side it would list to windward in anything less
than a full gale. The fore and aft seat works to keep the crew weight
where it needs to be in reasonable breezes, but you might get only one
cheek of support. You do need flexibility to move your weight fore
and aft as well to get proper longitudinal trim. When it gets going
well, you want to slide aft a bit to keep the bow transom from burying.
I found the tiller was too long as drawn and have since shortened
mine. I may elect to shorten it some more. You don't need much
tiller length to reach it in a 7'-9" boat. If it gets too short, you
might run out of leverage in a puff though.
Doug
when the seams are epoxied and taped. My boat did not get really
stiff until the center seat was installed. I did not use the blocks
to hold the panels together that Payson calls for in the building
instructions. I just wired everything together then made the fillets
and installed fiberglass tape over the wire. The boat should be
supported well enough while gluing the seams to keep it from becoming
twisted.
I generally sit very near the center of the boat while sailing. I am
centered both side to side and fore and aft. The boat is so wide that
if you sat near the side it would list to windward in anything less
than a full gale. The fore and aft seat works to keep the crew weight
where it needs to be in reasonable breezes, but you might get only one
cheek of support. You do need flexibility to move your weight fore
and aft as well to get proper longitudinal trim. When it gets going
well, you want to slide aft a bit to keep the bow transom from burying.
I found the tiller was too long as drawn and have since shortened
mine. I may elect to shorten it some more. You don't need much
tiller length to reach it in a 7'-9" boat. If it gets too short, you
might run out of leverage in a puff though.
Doug
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "jonny_stone2002" <jonathan@...> wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> I have just begun work on my first ever build - a Rubens Nymph. The
> panels are now wired tightly together and I have masking taped the
> outside of the seams. Having just turned it over I am amazed
> (concerned) at how floppy it is. My questios are -
> 1. will it stiffen up once the seams are epoxied?
> 2. do I "spot weld" the joints between the frames and the panels with
> thickened epoxy before removing the temporary wooden blocks to which I
> have fastened the panels
> 3. How do i epoxy the joint between the transom and the panel ends.
> There is quite a bit of tension there - if I unscrew the temp block the
> boat will spring apart - or does this not happen once the long chine
> seams are epoxied?
> 4. I intend to sail this boat - is the central seat suitable or should
> I think about side seats aft of the centre of the boat to enable me to
> sit on the weather side for trim?
>
> Any thoughts most welcome.
> Jon
>
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:58:39 -0000
"jonny_stone2002" <jonathan@...> wrote:
4. I intend to sail this boat - is the central seat suitable or should I
think about side seats aft of the centre of the boat to enable me to sit on
the weather side for trim?
I sail a 4 foot wide Nymph and found it works best with the center seat
removed entirely and replaced with a folding step stool for rowing and a
folding camp/canoe chair placed in the center of the boat with the center
web reduced in height so that legs go comfortably over it.
with this method you can shift your weight when needed and reach all
controls while seeing where you're going. The tiller is awkward at best and
is supplemented with a yoke and lines under tension to steer.
Jim H
http://pandoradom.org
http://pandoradom.org
"jonny_stone2002" <jonathan@...> wrote:
4. I intend to sail this boat - is the central seat suitable or should I
think about side seats aft of the centre of the boat to enable me to sit on
the weather side for trim?
I sail a 4 foot wide Nymph and found it works best with the center seat
removed entirely and replaced with a folding step stool for rowing and a
folding camp/canoe chair placed in the center of the boat with the center
web reduced in height so that legs go comfortably over it.
with this method you can shift your weight when needed and reach all
controls while seeing where you're going. The tiller is awkward at best and
is supplemented with a yoke and lines under tension to steer.
Jim H
http://pandoradom.org
http://pandoradom.org
Hi all,
I have just begun work on my first ever build - a Rubens Nymph. The
panels are now wired tightly together and I have masking taped the
outside of the seams. Having just turned it over I am amazed
(concerned) at how floppy it is. My questios are -
1. will it stiffen up once the seams are epoxied?
2. do I "spot weld" the joints between the frames and the panels with
thickened epoxy before removing the temporary wooden blocks to which I
have fastened the panels
3. How do i epoxy the joint between the transom and the panel ends.
There is quite a bit of tension there - if I unscrew the temp block the
boat will spring apart - or does this not happen once the long chine
seams are epoxied?
4. I intend to sail this boat - is the central seat suitable or should
I think about side seats aft of the centre of the boat to enable me to
sit on the weather side for trim?
Any thoughts most welcome.
Jon
I have just begun work on my first ever build - a Rubens Nymph. The
panels are now wired tightly together and I have masking taped the
outside of the seams. Having just turned it over I am amazed
(concerned) at how floppy it is. My questios are -
1. will it stiffen up once the seams are epoxied?
2. do I "spot weld" the joints between the frames and the panels with
thickened epoxy before removing the temporary wooden blocks to which I
have fastened the panels
3. How do i epoxy the joint between the transom and the panel ends.
There is quite a bit of tension there - if I unscrew the temp block the
boat will spring apart - or does this not happen once the long chine
seams are epoxied?
4. I intend to sail this boat - is the central seat suitable or should
I think about side seats aft of the centre of the boat to enable me to
sit on the weather side for trim?
Any thoughts most welcome.
Jon