Re: Smaller version of Light Schooner
Bruce I believe he first speaks of racing them then reflects on the
other option.
Considering the built was designed for a client who wanted to sail to
the Catilina Island speaks of it's stability. A ballested double ender
can take a pounding in trailing seas.
For shoal purposes in lake use I think I would diffinitely build in a
kickup lee board and try to incorperate a new haven style rudder with
kickup on the end such as Ruel Parker speaks of in "The Sharpie Book"
The only drawback being possible brakeing but on the other hand less
demand at the helm for tacking. I considered a round stern on the
light schooner with that type of rudder.
The tiller according to the plans for the light schooner demands
putting her down hard for tacking. I havent installed my captians
wheel yet but it will give me better tacking ability. As is, you might
get a 15-20degree angle on the rudder. With a wheel I would be able to
get 45 degrees if wanted.
Jim
other option.
Considering the built was designed for a client who wanted to sail to
the Catilina Island speaks of it's stability. A ballested double ender
can take a pounding in trailing seas.
For shoal purposes in lake use I think I would diffinitely build in a
kickup lee board and try to incorperate a new haven style rudder with
kickup on the end such as Ruel Parker speaks of in "The Sharpie Book"
The only drawback being possible brakeing but on the other hand less
demand at the helm for tacking. I considered a round stern on the
light schooner with that type of rudder.
The tiller according to the plans for the light schooner demands
putting her down hard for tacking. I havent installed my captians
wheel yet but it will give me better tacking ability. As is, you might
get a 15-20degree angle on the rudder. With a wheel I would be able to
get 45 degrees if wanted.
Jim
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> On 10/23/07, Jim Kessler <jkess777@...> wrote:
> >
> > His and hers meaning each would
> > have their own schooner and possibly race one another.
>
> Actually, PCB tells a charming story how racing of the His and Hers
> Schooners is not advised, but rather they should be sailed in unison,
> ballet like, following the ancient nautical art of station keeping.
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
Someone at my club was making noises about building one last year;
I'll have to see if he got anywhere with that....
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Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
> On 10/23/07, Jim Kessler <jkess777@...> wrote:I'd settle for just seeing a second one in waters where I was sailing.
> >
> > His and hers meaning each would
> > have their own schooner and possibly race one another.
>
> Actually, PCB tells a charming story how racing of the His and Hers
> Schooners is not advised, but rather they should be sailed in unison,
> ballet like, following the ancient nautical art of station keeping.
Someone at my club was making noises about building one last year;
I'll have to see if he got anywhere with that....
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
On 10/23/07, Jim Kessler <jkess777@...> wrote:
Schooners is not advised, but rather they should be sailed in unison,
ballet like, following the ancient nautical art of station keeping.
>Actually, PCB tells a charming story how racing of the His and Hers
> His and hers meaning each would
> have their own schooner and possibly race one another.
Schooners is not advised, but rather they should be sailed in unison,
ballet like, following the ancient nautical art of station keeping.
As most know I built the light schooner. She is wonderful. I have
sailed her solo a few times in 10-15 knot winds with main and jib
only.
But I agree with others here for a solo boat the his and her
schooners are the best selection. His and hers meaning each would
have thier own schooner and possibly race one another.
I believe I would make a kickup daggerboard for the his and hers due
to the ballast.
You can find plans here....
http://www.instantboats.com/boats.html
Jim
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Christopher C. Wetherill"
<wetherillc@...> wrote:
sailed her solo a few times in 10-15 knot winds with main and jib
only.
But I agree with others here for a solo boat the his and her
schooners are the best selection. His and hers meaning each would
have thier own schooner and possibly race one another.
I believe I would make a kickup daggerboard for the his and hers due
to the ballast.
You can find plans here....
http://www.instantboats.com/boats.html
Jim
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Christopher C. Wetherill"
<wetherillc@...> wrote:
>use in
> Terrell,
>
> Plans are available from H.H. Payson at instantboats.com
> <www.instantboats.com>.
>
> One thing to be aware of is that this may be a difficult boat to
> shoal waters. In order to stay upright with a fairly large sailarea
> and no excess crew for hiking, it has a long centerboard with aheavy
> counterbalance. There has been a long discussion on this forum inthe
> last year regarding ways to manipulate the board.schooner?
>
> V/R
> Chris
>
> Terrell V. Norris wrote:
> > Thanks to all. Where can I get plans for the His & Her's
> >Behalf Of
> > Terrell V. Norris
> > Keeper of the Zoo
> > Various Colubrids
> > Morelia viridis
> >
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> > Susan Davistypical
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:39 PM
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> > Subject: [bolger] Re: Smaller version of Light Schooner
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> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "tvnorris" <tvnorris@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is there a similar boat about 16 ft. long?
> >
> > There's one 19 1/2 feet long, that's really the size of a
> > 16-foot boat: the "His and Her" (or "Singlehanded") Schooner.I have
> > one, and they're neat little boats; pictures of mine in actioncan be
> > found on my Photobucket page atare
> >http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v627/futabachan, and there
> > construction photos on Bolger3.dimensions and
> >
> > > If there is not a similar boat, can I reduce all the
> > > still have a workable boat?flogging dead horses
> >
> > No.
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Terrell,
Plans are available from H.H. Payson at instantboats.com
<www.instantboats.com>.
One thing to be aware of is that this may be a difficult boat to use in
shoal waters. In order to stay upright with a fairly large sail area
and no excess crew for hiking, it has a long centerboard with a heavy
counterbalance. There has been a long discussion on this forum in the
last year regarding ways to manipulate the board.
V/R
Chris
Terrell V. Norris wrote:
Plans are available from H.H. Payson at instantboats.com
<www.instantboats.com>.
One thing to be aware of is that this may be a difficult boat to use in
shoal waters. In order to stay upright with a fairly large sail area
and no excess crew for hiking, it has a long centerboard with a heavy
counterbalance. There has been a long discussion on this forum in the
last year regarding ways to manipulate the board.
V/R
Chris
Terrell V. Norris wrote:
> Thanks to all. Where can I get plans for the His & Her's schooner?
>
> Terrell V. Norris
> Keeper of the Zoo
> Various Colubrids
> Morelia viridis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
> Susan Davis
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:39 PM
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Smaller version of Light Schooner
>
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> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "tvnorris" <tvnorris@...> wrote:
> >
> > Is there a similar boat about 16 ft. long?
>
> There's one 19 1/2 feet long, that's really the size of a typical
> 16-foot boat: the "His and Her" (or "Singlehanded") Schooner. I have
> one, and they're neat little boats; pictures of mine in action can be
> found on my Photobucket page at
>http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v627/futabachan, and there are
> construction photos on Bolger3.
>
> > If there is not a similar boat, can I reduce all the dimensions and
> > still have a workable boat?
>
> No.
>
> --
> Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
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> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
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Thanks to all. Where can I get plans for the His & Her's schooner?
Terrell V. Norris
Keeper of the Zoo
Various Colubrids
Morelia viridis
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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:39 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Smaller version of Light Schooner
Terrell V. Norris
Keeper of the Zoo
Various Colubrids
Morelia viridis
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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:39 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Smaller version of Light Schooner
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "tvnorris" <tvnorris@...> wrote:
>
> Is there a similar boat about 16 ft. long?
There's one 19 1/2 feet long, that's really the size of a typical
16-foot boat: the "His and Her" (or "Singlehanded") Schooner. I have
one, and they're neat little boats; pictures of mine in action can be
found on my Photobucket page at
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v627/futabachan, and there are
construction photos on Bolger3.
> If there is not a similar boat, can I reduce all the dimensions and
> still have a workable boat?
No.
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Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "tvnorris" <tvnorris@...> wrote:
16-foot boat: the "His and Her" (or "Singlehanded") Schooner. I have
one, and they're neat little boats; pictures of mine in action can be
found on my Photobucket page at
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v627/futabachan, and there are
construction photos on Bolger3.
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
>There's one 19 1/2 feet long, that's really the size of a typical
> Is there a similar boat about 16 ft. long?
16-foot boat: the "His and Her" (or "Singlehanded") Schooner. I have
one, and they're neat little boats; pictures of mine in action can be
found on my Photobucket page at
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v627/futabachan, and there are
construction photos on Bolger3.
> If there is not a similar boat, can I reduce all the dimensions andNo.
> still have a workable boat?
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
There were small (20-ft) schooners in the Good Old Days. I suggest
looking at Chapelle's American Small Sailing Craft for a small garvey
or scow schooner.
The Bolger schooner won't scale down well. In fact, a scow schooner
will be far more fun to sail and roomier. They're not as ugly as you
might surmise.
looking at Chapelle's American Small Sailing Craft for a small garvey
or scow schooner.
The Bolger schooner won't scale down well. In fact, a scow schooner
will be far more fun to sail and roomier. They're not as ugly as you
might surmise.
On Oct 23, 2007, at 2:21 AM, Joe Tribulato wrote:
> Search for Single Handed Schooner. It is 19 feet I believe.
> There are several options for sails. Try Duckworks.
>
> Joe T
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "tvnorris" <tvnorris@...> wrote:
> >
> > Years ago, I started to build the 23 1/2 ft. Schooner. I got the
> hull
> > finnished when I ran into a few snags. The sails were going to cost
> > more than I could afford. Also, finding a boat trailer to carry a 23
> > 1/2 ft. boat was too expensive.
> >
> > Is there a similar boat about 16 ft. long? I really liked the
> lines of
> > the schooner and the ease it was constructed. If there is not a
> > similar boat, can I reduce all the dimensions and still have a
> workable
> > boat?
> >
>
>
>
=== c o'donnell
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Search for Single Handed Schooner. It is 19 feet I believe.
There are several options for sails. Try Duckworks.
Joe T
There are several options for sails. Try Duckworks.
Joe T
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "tvnorris" <tvnorris@...> wrote:
>
> Years ago, I started to build the 23 1/2 ft. Schooner. I got the hull
> finnished when I ran into a few snags. The sails were going to cost
> more than I could afford. Also, finding a boat trailer to carry a 23
> 1/2 ft. boat was too expensive.
>
> Is there a similar boat about 16 ft. long? I really liked the lines of
> the schooner and the ease it was constructed. If there is not a
> similar boat, can I reduce all the dimensions and still have a workable
> boat?
>
may be blue tarp sails are for you.
I havent used them but others have with success I believe.
I havent used them but others have with success I believe.
On 23/10/2007, tvnorris <tvnorris@...> wrote:
>
> Years ago, I started to build the 23 1/2 ft. Schooner. I got the hull
> finnished when I ran into a few snags. The sails were going to cost
> more than I could afford. Also, finding a boat trailer to carry a 23
> 1/2 ft. boat was too expensive.
>
> Is there a similar boat about 16 ft. long? I really liked the lines of
> the schooner and the ease it was constructed. If there is not a
> similar boat, can I reduce all the dimensions and still have a workable
> boat?
>
>
>
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Years ago, I started to build the 23 1/2 ft. Schooner. I got the hull
finnished when I ran into a few snags. The sails were going to cost
more than I could afford. Also, finding a boat trailer to carry a 23
1/2 ft. boat was too expensive.
Is there a similar boat about 16 ft. long? I really liked the lines of
the schooner and the ease it was constructed. If there is not a
similar boat, can I reduce all the dimensions and still have a workable
boat?
finnished when I ran into a few snags. The sails were going to cost
more than I could afford. Also, finding a boat trailer to carry a 23
1/2 ft. boat was too expensive.
Is there a similar boat about 16 ft. long? I really liked the lines of
the schooner and the ease it was constructed. If there is not a
similar boat, can I reduce all the dimensions and still have a workable
boat?