Re: [bolger] Re: Puget Sound
On Nov 12, 2007 5:54 AM, Chris Crandall <crandall@...> wrote:
first hand experience with Puget Sound waters. His comments on those
photos is copied below:
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These kinds of very rare inland "seas" result from a strong southerly
winter blow acting against an opposite tidal current. Upon departure
we would usually run parallel to the wave action, in the "trough" (the
first two photos) until we could get behind a headland where the seas
were calmer so we could make whatever turn was needed to make the
dock. This kind of action was much more common on the Port Townsend
route than "down sound." Sometimes the turn was required where there
was no headland to get behind (as in this case) and then you see the
action captured in the rest of the photos. Anyway, while cars have
been known to get moved around in this weather much of the water
action you see is spray (although from the looks of the scuppers there
is a significant amount of "green water" on deck) and it is unlikely
that cars got forced into each other - although that has happened on
very rare occasions. Anyway, it is good to relive my days on the
water.
>An old friend of mine is an ex-seaman on the ferries, with lots of
> I've never seen 8-10 foot waves on Puget Sound, in my memory (but I
> -Chris
first hand experience with Puget Sound waters. His comments on those
photos is copied below:
=========pasted text below =====
These kinds of very rare inland "seas" result from a strong southerly
winter blow acting against an opposite tidal current. Upon departure
we would usually run parallel to the wave action, in the "trough" (the
first two photos) until we could get behind a headland where the seas
were calmer so we could make whatever turn was needed to make the
dock. This kind of action was much more common on the Port Townsend
route than "down sound." Sometimes the turn was required where there
was no headland to get behind (as in this case) and then you see the
action captured in the rest of the photos. Anyway, while cars have
been known to get moved around in this weather much of the water
action you see is spray (although from the looks of the scuppers there
is a significant amount of "green water" on deck) and it is unlikely
that cars got forced into each other - although that has happened on
very rare occasions. Anyway, it is good to relive my days on the
water.
Posted by: "Kristine Bennett"femmpaws@...femmpaws
Keep in mind that many of the sailboats have no particular provision for
shortening sail.
I've never seen 8-10 foot waves on Puget Sound, in my memory (but I
moved away a few years ago). Five-footers, though, for sure, and they
are *plenty*. I used to go down to the Sound at the south end of
Lincoln Park and watch them smash into the WPA sea wall (wow!).
I'll be there for sailing this winter.
-Chris
> Yes a lot of people think do to Puget Sound being well enclosed the water doesn't get all that rough.... Off West Seattle I've seen 8 to 10 foot waves heading north up the sound... I was also on one of the ferries in said storm.I don't know--8-10 foots waves are too extreme for my Teal, for example.
>
> Would I want to be out in that kind of stuff in a small sailboat? NO! But I'm very sure any of the small boats that Phil has designed would handle it the bigger question would you?
Keep in mind that many of the sailboats have no particular provision for
shortening sail.
I've never seen 8-10 foot waves on Puget Sound, in my memory (but I
moved away a few years ago). Five-footers, though, for sure, and they
are *plenty*. I used to go down to the Sound at the south end of
Lincoln Park and watch them smash into the WPA sea wall (wow!).
I'll be there for sailing this winter.
-Chris
Yes a lot of people think do to Puget Sound being well enclosed the water doesn't get all that rough.... Off West Seattle I've seen 8 to 10 foot waves heading north up the sound... I was also on one of the ferries in said storm.
Would I want to be out in that kind of stuff in a small sailboat? NO! But I'm very sure any of the small boats that Phil has designed would handle it the bigger question would you?
Blessings Krissie
"Jon & Wanda(Tink)" <windyjon@...> wrote: You got my atention as soon as you said PS it is a wounderful place and
was even better 30 years ago.
Jon
Would I want to be out in that kind of stuff in a small sailboat? NO! But I'm very sure any of the small boats that Phil has designed would handle it the bigger question would you?
Blessings Krissie
"Jon & Wanda(Tink)" <windyjon@...> wrote: You got my atention as soon as you said PS it is a wounderful place and
was even better 30 years ago.
Jon
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
>http://www.pbase.com/trackside_photography/landscape__nautical
>
> I will have to stretch to get a 'Bolger on-topic context' for posting
> a link to the page of photos above; showing some tough weather on
> Puget Sound. Still, so many of the Bolger boats were designed for the
> 'inland' waters of Puget Sound, which at times are not all that calm.
> Certainly, when I evaluate Bolger boats in my mind, I measure them up
> to my lifetime memories of the waters of Puget Sound, which
> occasionally get really wicked.
>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan, who,due to pirate influences various, confesses to
bouts of wickedness, but usually only in the summer months,near the
waters edge and yes, the demon alcohol has been known to pay a visit
along with coachings of my mentor, Big Bad Bruce Hector,aka Pirate
extrodinaire of the eastern shores of Lake Ontario..............
> Certainly, when I evaluate Bolger boats in my mind, I measure them upWicked memories?! Bruce Hallman?! Nah.....say it ain't so!! :-)
> to my lifetime memories of the waters of Puget Sound, which
> occasionally get really wicked.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan, who,due to pirate influences various, confesses to
bouts of wickedness, but usually only in the summer months,near the
waters edge and yes, the demon alcohol has been known to pay a visit
along with coachings of my mentor, Big Bad Bruce Hector,aka Pirate
extrodinaire of the eastern shores of Lake Ontario..............
You got my atention as soon as you said PS it is a wounderful place and
was even better 30 years ago.
Jon
was even better 30 years ago.
Jon
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
>http://www.pbase.com/trackside_photography/landscape__nautical
>
> I will have to stretch to get a 'Bolger on-topic context' for posting
> a link to the page of photos above; showing some tough weather on
> Puget Sound. Still, so many of the Bolger boats were designed for the
> 'inland' waters of Puget Sound, which at times are not all that calm.
> Certainly, when I evaluate Bolger boats in my mind, I measure them up
> to my lifetime memories of the waters of Puget Sound, which
> occasionally get really wicked.
>
http://www.pbase.com/trackside_photography/landscape__nautical
I will have to stretch to get a 'Bolger on-topic context' for posting
a link to the page of photos above; showing some tough weather on
Puget Sound. Still, so many of the Bolger boats were designed for the
'inland' waters of Puget Sound, which at times are not all that calm.
Certainly, when I evaluate Bolger boats in my mind, I measure them up
to my lifetime memories of the waters of Puget Sound, which
occasionally get really wicked.
I will have to stretch to get a 'Bolger on-topic context' for posting
a link to the page of photos above; showing some tough weather on
Puget Sound. Still, so many of the Bolger boats were designed for the
'inland' waters of Puget Sound, which at times are not all that calm.
Certainly, when I evaluate Bolger boats in my mind, I measure them up
to my lifetime memories of the waters of Puget Sound, which
occasionally get really wicked.