Re: Hatch building
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bryant Owen" <mariner@...> wrote:
Yup, it is my hatch which I built straight out of Bud MacIntosh'
book"How to Build a Wooden Boat".The text is clear and the drawings by
Sam Manning are,well as usual, outstanding! Even I was able to make
sense of them :-)
The picture Bruce links to was taken by a visitor,Mark, who was at
that time sorta considering building a Micro up on the Ottawa river
and paid me a visit.....he even brought along a wee bottle(bless his
soul!) of fortified grape juice!
Some other shots are available of the hatch here:
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Canadianboatbuilder/photos/browse/555d
?b=1&m=t&o=0 and of course,right in our own files under MICRO, in
the "Lenihans' Micro" folder.
I chose to build my hatch the way I did since I figured the boat was
flat and square enough and a wee bit of yachty looking hatch crown
couldn't hurt :-) Bolger liked it too when he came on board down in
Newport during the Woodenboat show in 1993(!)
It was an easy thing to build,with Buds' book as a guide, and did
wonders for the boats looks :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Hatchbuilder Lenihan..............:-D !!
>thank.):
> That's Peter Lenihan's boat so probably Peter took the pic.
>
> Bryant
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@> wrote:
> >
> > I put a picture of the Le Stat companionway here (credit is due to
> > whomever took that photo, it wasn't me, but I forget who to
> >Hi Guys,
> >http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2074783398&size=o
Yup, it is my hatch which I built straight out of Bud MacIntosh'
book"How to Build a Wooden Boat".The text is clear and the drawings by
Sam Manning are,well as usual, outstanding! Even I was able to make
sense of them :-)
The picture Bruce links to was taken by a visitor,Mark, who was at
that time sorta considering building a Micro up on the Ottawa river
and paid me a visit.....he even brought along a wee bottle(bless his
soul!) of fortified grape juice!
Some other shots are available of the hatch here:
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Canadianboatbuilder/photos/browse/555d
?b=1&m=t&o=0 and of course,right in our own files under MICRO, in
the "Lenihans' Micro" folder.
I chose to build my hatch the way I did since I figured the boat was
flat and square enough and a wee bit of yachty looking hatch crown
couldn't hurt :-) Bolger liked it too when he came on board down in
Newport during the Woodenboat show in 1993(!)
It was an easy thing to build,with Buds' book as a guide, and did
wonders for the boats looks :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Hatchbuilder Lenihan..............:-D !!
>
I can't believe I overlooked that. Thanks.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> On Nov 29, 2007 2:19 PM, Col <cmoone11@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi group,
> > Never having built or seen a Bolger hatch before,I have to
admit I'm
> > having trouble getting my head around the design in the Micro
> > plans. I've searched the archives with no luck, and any advice
> > would be much appreciated.
>
> It is confusing I agree. Have you also read note 54 of the
building key?
>
Group,
Should be right now, found some good closeups in Golger 5
photos "Applecross".
Cheers,
Col
Should be right now, found some good closeups in Golger 5
photos "Applecross".
Cheers,
Col
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "mason smith" <masonsmith@...> wrote:
>
> For me, the hardest thing about the companionway plans for the Micro
was the after ends of the hatch-rails. They don't seem to have any
lateral support, and I wasn't sure where to end them, and how to trap
the sompanionway slides in at the top. Took a little drawing and
thinking and studying of the plans but I think I got it right, or
adequately near.
> The "slot" for the slides, which you refer to, was not built
according to plans on my hull, and I decided to cope with it the way
it was. On a new boat, I'd do it like the plans. Don't they show the
bulkhead itself as the inner frame of the slot? So that the slides lie
outside, or aft, of the bulkhead, and go in rabbetted frame-pieces?
However you do the slots, be sure to carry the hatch-rails aft as far
as necessary to cover the edges of the slides. Tricky.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Thanks Mason,
If "the slides lie outside, or aft, of the bulkhead, and go in
rabbetted frame-pieces?", I guess that means the slides don't finish
flush with the ply in the bulkhead?
Thanks for the tips re the hatch rails, I know one thing, nothing will
be glued until all is working!
Col
If "the slides lie outside, or aft, of the bulkhead, and go in
rabbetted frame-pieces?", I guess that means the slides don't finish
flush with the ply in the bulkhead?
Thanks for the tips re the hatch rails, I know one thing, nothing will
be glued until all is working!
Col
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "mason smith" <masonsmith@...> wrote:
>
> For me, the hardest thing about the companionway plans for the Micro
was the after ends of the hatch-rails. They don't seem to have any
lateral support, and I wasn't sure where to end them, and how to trap
the sompanionway slides in at the top. Took a little drawing and
thinking and studying of the plans but I think I got it right, or
adequately near.
> The "slot" for the slides, which you refer to, was not built
according to plans on my hull, and I decided to cope with it the way
it was. On a new boat, I'd do it like the plans. Don't they show the
bulkhead itself as the inner frame of the slot? So that the slides lie
outside, or aft, of the bulkhead, and go in rabbetted frame-pieces?
However you do the slots, be sure to carry the hatch-rails aft as far
as necessary to cover the edges of the slides. Tricky.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
For me, the hardest thing about the companionway plans for the Micro was the after ends of the hatch-rails. They don't seem to have any lateral support, and I wasn't sure where to end them, and how to trap the sompanionway slides in at the top. Took a little drawing and thinking and studying of the plans but I think I got it right, or adequately near.
The "slot" for the slides, which you refer to, was not built according to plans on my hull, and I decided to cope with it the way it was. On a new boat, I'd do it like the plans. Don't they show the bulkhead itself as the inner frame of the slot? So that the slides lie outside, or aft, of the bulkhead, and go in rabbetted frame-pieces? However you do the slots, be sure to carry the hatch-rails aft as far as necessary to cover the edges of the slides. Tricky.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
The "slot" for the slides, which you refer to, was not built according to plans on my hull, and I decided to cope with it the way it was. On a new boat, I'd do it like the plans. Don't they show the bulkhead itself as the inner frame of the slot? So that the slides lie outside, or aft, of the bulkhead, and go in rabbetted frame-pieces? However you do the slots, be sure to carry the hatch-rails aft as far as necessary to cover the edges of the slides. Tricky.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
That's Peter Lenihan's boat so probably Peter took the pic.
Bryant
Bryant
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> I put a picture of the Le Stat companionway here (credit is due to
> whomever took that photo, it wasn't me, but I forget who to thank.):
>
>http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2074783398&size=o
>
Thanks David,
The fog is slowly lifting. I'm sure when I'm up to that stage and
have the problem in front of me it will see a lot clearer.
Col
The fog is slowly lifting. I'm sure when I'm up to that stage and
have the problem in front of me it will see a lot clearer.
Col
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dnjost" <davidjost@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Be certain that the cut out for the hatch are absolutely parallel.
>
> The front plate and rear plates of the hatch hold it in place and
there
> are notches cut out to ride over the ridge on the cabin sides.
>
> I think I recall screwing on a 3/4X3/4 rail for the notches to
ride
> on.
>
> I wound up putting brass strips for the hatch to ride on as it was
a
> little sticky. that seemed to solve it.
>
> There is something in Chapelle's on this.
>
> Bear in mind this was several years ago, so my memory is a tad
hazy.
>
> David Jost
>
Be certain that the cut out for the hatch are absolutely parallel.
The front plate and rear plates of the hatch hold it in place and there
are notches cut out to ride over the ridge on the cabin sides.
I think I recall screwing on a 3/4X3/4 rail for the notches to ride
on.
I wound up putting brass strips for the hatch to ride on as it was a
little sticky. that seemed to solve it.
There is something in Chapelle's on this.
Bear in mind this was several years ago, so my memory is a tad hazy.
David Jost
The front plate and rear plates of the hatch hold it in place and there
are notches cut out to ride over the ridge on the cabin sides.
I think I recall screwing on a 3/4X3/4 rail for the notches to ride
on.
I wound up putting brass strips for the hatch to ride on as it was a
little sticky. that seemed to solve it.
There is something in Chapelle's on this.
Bear in mind this was several years ago, so my memory is a tad hazy.
David Jost
I put a picture of the Le Stat companionway here (credit is due to
whomever took that photo, it wasn't me, but I forget who to thank.):
http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2074783398&size=o
whomever took that photo, it wasn't me, but I forget who to thank.):
http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2074783398&size=o
On Nov 29, 2007 2:19 PM, Col <cmoone11@...> wrote:
> Hi group,It is confusing I agree. Have you also read note 54 of the building key?
> Never having built or seen a Bolger hatch before,I have to admit I'm
> having trouble getting my head around the design in the Micro
> plans. I've searched the archives with no luck, and any advice
> would be much appreciated.
Hi group,
Never having built or seen a Bolger hatch before,I have to admit I'm
having trouble getting my head around the design in the Micro
plans. I've searched the archives with no luck, and any advice
would be much appreciated.
My problem is how to form the slot for the two boards to slip into
at the entranceway. I made the presumtion that the boards once in
place are flush with the ply on Bulkhead B. I see that some framing
needs to go on the aft end of bulkhead B to form the slot. However
in the bulkhead plans the framing on the foward end of bulkhead B
seems to finish flush with the ply edge, and if thats the case it
wouldn't play a role in forming a slot. Do you need to glue a strip
of wood onto the forward framing making it protrude from the ply to
match a protruding frame on the aft side? I'm sure the answer is
simpler than I think and I'll kick myself when I find the answer! (I
failed plan reading 101).
Thanks,
Col
Never having built or seen a Bolger hatch before,I have to admit I'm
having trouble getting my head around the design in the Micro
plans. I've searched the archives with no luck, and any advice
would be much appreciated.
My problem is how to form the slot for the two boards to slip into
at the entranceway. I made the presumtion that the boards once in
place are flush with the ply on Bulkhead B. I see that some framing
needs to go on the aft end of bulkhead B to form the slot. However
in the bulkhead plans the framing on the foward end of bulkhead B
seems to finish flush with the ply edge, and if thats the case it
wouldn't play a role in forming a slot. Do you need to glue a strip
of wood onto the forward framing making it protrude from the ply to
match a protruding frame on the aft side? I'm sure the answer is
simpler than I think and I'll kick myself when I find the answer! (I
failed plan reading 101).
Thanks,
Col