RE: [bolger] Re: Brick
Thanks Mark. What's different with this version? It's not any longer is
it? --FrankB
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From: Mark [mailto:marka@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 6:10 PM
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Subject: [bolger] Re: Brick
Dreams are true.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Fast%20Brick/
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it? --FrankB
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark [mailto:marka@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 6:10 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Brick
Dreams are true.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Fast%20Brick/
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Dreams are true.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Fast%20Brick/
Frank Bales wrote:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Fast%20Brick/
Frank Bales wrote:
>
> I thought someone mention not long ago a larger version of the Brick? Not
> the Super version with the cabin and all, just a larger version of the
> Brick. I looked but couldn't find the post. Was I dreaming, or does such a
> beast exist?
As I see it, since the Big Tortoise is not actually the same boat as
the Brick the placement of the rig, the mast and leeboard would have
to be changed from the Brick to account for the different dimensions.
Actually I Emailed Payson and asked about the sail, he said he
thought the lamb chop sail designed for the Brick would be O.K. on
the Big Tortoise. In other words the size, 59 sq. Ft. isn't it, is
O.K, but the placement on the boat would be different than the brick.
The area of the leeboard and rudder are probably about correct. If
you're not comfortable placing them yourself and you want to sail,
(I'm making mine for rowing and then I'll decide if I want to add a
rig) then it sounds like you need Brick plans. Do you have Bolger's
"Boats With an Open Mind"? Brick plans are in there. I understand
your frustration. I just kind of like the idea of making the Big
Tortoise. Actually it's practice for making a Micro. Charles
the Brick the placement of the rig, the mast and leeboard would have
to be changed from the Brick to account for the different dimensions.
Actually I Emailed Payson and asked about the sail, he said he
thought the lamb chop sail designed for the Brick would be O.K. on
the Big Tortoise. In other words the size, 59 sq. Ft. isn't it, is
O.K, but the placement on the boat would be different than the brick.
The area of the leeboard and rudder are probably about correct. If
you're not comfortable placing them yourself and you want to sail,
(I'm making mine for rowing and then I'll decide if I want to add a
rig) then it sounds like you need Brick plans. Do you have Bolger's
"Boats With an Open Mind"? Brick plans are in there. I understand
your frustration. I just kind of like the idea of making the Big
Tortoise. Actually it's practice for making a Micro. Charles
> I got design #597. I appears to have been designed for Montgomery
> Boat Yard. The dimesions are 8'0" x 3'2". Will the sailing rig
> dimensions from the Bolger Brick work? I hate to think that I just
> bought these plans and now need to buy another set.
>
> James Stytle
>
I got design #597. I appears to have been designed for Montgomery
Boat Yard. The dimesions are 8'0" x 3'2". Will the sailing rig
dimensions from the Bolger Brick work? I hate to think that I just
bought these plans and now need to buy another set.
James Stytle
Boat Yard. The dimesions are 8'0" x 3'2". Will the sailing rig
dimensions from the Bolger Brick work? I hate to think that I just
bought these plans and now need to buy another set.
James Stytle
--- In bolger@y..., "zavalacat" <zavala@s...> wrote:
> On the Payson Brick. You did about what I did. Payson's plans are
for a Big Tortoise, Brick. It's a Stretch Tortoise and includes the
enlargement and nothing more. Actually, the dimensions are somewhat
different than the Brick. I think the Brick itself can be obtained
from Bolger, or else just get a copy of Boats With an Open Mind and
enlarge the Brick plans for easy use. I'm building the Big Tortoise,
but I considered the original Brick and decided the stretch tortoise
would be fun. You are right -the plans don't have the rig or
leeboard. Charles
On the Payson Brick. You did about what I did. Payson's plans are for a Big Tortoise, Brick. It's a Stretch Tortoise and includes the enlargement and nothing more. Actually, the dimensions are somewhat different than the Brick. I think the Brick itself can be obtained from Bolger, or else just get a copy of Boats With an Open Mind and enlarge the Brick plans for easy use. I'm building the Big Tortoise, but I considered the original Brick and decided the stretch tortoise would be fun. You are right -the plans don't have the rig or leeboard. Charles
How about Linseed oil on Doug Fir plywood? I read somewhere that
it pretty well stops it checking. The one disadvantage is that it
commits you to Oil base paints instead of Latex. I have no
experience of this myself, other than real good experience with
Linseed oil in other uses. Any body out there try it on plywood.
HJ
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% Harrywelshman@...
it pretty well stops it checking. The one disadvantage is that it
commits you to Oil base paints instead of Latex. I have no
experience of this myself, other than real good experience with
Linseed oil in other uses. Any body out there try it on plywood.
HJ
>--
> The paint is key. Lauan does not check like douglas fir--checking comes
> from swelling and shrinking due to moisture cycling. It happens far more
> in wood that has different density in earlywood/latewood, and douglas fir
> is the king of that. So DF plywood is the check-monster. Lauan ain't so
> bad. frankly.
>
> >
>
_ _ _ _ _
% Harrywelshman@...
That's interesting. However, I've had a luan boat before that checked
all over the place. Finish was spar varnish. I put on 3 coats after I
got it and still got more checks. Maybe there's different sorts of
luan, or maybe you get a few years free before it flakes out?
all over the place. Finish was spar varnish. I put on 3 coats after I
got it and still got more checks. Maybe there's different sorts of
luan, or maybe you get a few years free before it flakes out?
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, Chris Crandall <crandall@u...> wrote:
snip
> The paint is key. Lauan does not check like douglas fir--checking
comes
> from swelling and shrinking due to moisture cycling. It happens
far
more
> in wood that has different density in earlywood/latewood, and
douglas fir
> is the king of that. So DF plywood is the check-monster. Lauan
ain't so
> bad. frankly.
>
>
>
> >
> > There are a couple of spots to fix where polyester resin is
letting
> > go, but these were pointed out to me before the sale. I would
> > hesitate
> > to use polyester on any boat that would be kept outside.
> >
> > The boat is lighter than I anticipated, seems very easy for two
> > people
> > to handle, and not impossible for one, with a little thought.
> >
> > Anyway, Matthew did a good job, and it's very cute. We
anticipate
a
> > lot of fun with it, but
> > won't have a chance to use it for a couple of weeks.
> >
> > For you entomologists, cartopping a Brick is a great way to
collect
> > bugs.
> >
> >
> >
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> Chris Crandall crandall@u... (785) 864-4131
> Department of Psychology University of Kansas Lawrence, KS
66045
> I have data convincingly disconfirming the Duhem-Quine hypothesis.
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Lincoln Ross wrote:
from swelling and shrinking due to moisture cycling. It happens far more
in wood that has different density in earlywood/latewood, and douglas fir
is the king of that. So DF plywood is the check-monster. Lauan ain't so
bad. frankly.
Department of Psychology University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045
I have data convincingly disconfirming the Duhem-Quine hypothesis.
> After all the horror stories I've heard, I'm kind of surprised thatThe paint is key. Lauan does not check like douglas fir--checking comes
> this boat which has been outside for two years has no plywood
> checking. If I recall it's luan with latex paint from Ace Hardware,
> but the paint looks great.
from swelling and shrinking due to moisture cycling. It happens far more
in wood that has different density in earlywood/latewood, and douglas fir
is the king of that. So DF plywood is the check-monster. Lauan ain't so
bad. frankly.
>Chris Crandallcrandall@...(785) 864-4131
> There are a couple of spots to fix where polyester resin is letting
> go, but these were pointed out to me before the sale. I would
> hesitate
> to use polyester on any boat that would be kept outside.
>
> The boat is lighter than I anticipated, seems very easy for two
> people
> to handle, and not impossible for one, with a little thought.
>
> Anyway, Matthew did a good job, and it's very cute. We anticipate a
> lot of fun with it, but
> won't have a chance to use it for a couple of weeks.
>
> For you entomologists, cartopping a Brick is a great way to collect
> bugs.
>
>
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>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing
> - stay on topic
> - use punctuation
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
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>
>
Department of Psychology University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045
I have data convincingly disconfirming the Duhem-Quine hypothesis.
Yes, it's true, we bought Matthew Long's Brick, Tetard.
After all the horror stories I've heard, I'm kind of surprised that
this boat which has been outside for two years has no plywood
checking. If I recall it's luan with latex paint from Ace Hardware,
but the paint looks great.
There are a couple of spots to fix where polyester resin is letting
go, but these were pointed out to me before the sale. I would
hesitate
to use polyester on any boat that would be kept outside.
The boat is lighter than I anticipated, seems very easy for two
people
to handle, and not impossible for one, with a little thought.
Anyway, Matthew did a good job, and it's very cute. We anticipate a
lot of fun with it, but
won't have a chance to use it for a couple of weeks.
For you entomologists, cartopping a Brick is a great way to collect
bugs.
After all the horror stories I've heard, I'm kind of surprised that
this boat which has been outside for two years has no plywood
checking. If I recall it's luan with latex paint from Ace Hardware,
but the paint looks great.
There are a couple of spots to fix where polyester resin is letting
go, but these were pointed out to me before the sale. I would
hesitate
to use polyester on any boat that would be kept outside.
The boat is lighter than I anticipated, seems very easy for two
people
to handle, and not impossible for one, with a little thought.
Anyway, Matthew did a good job, and it's very cute. We anticipate a
lot of fun with it, but
won't have a chance to use it for a couple of weeks.
For you entomologists, cartopping a Brick is a great way to collect
bugs.