Re: Tiny, water-ballasted boats
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bklnbrick" <rickspiano@...> wrote:
Flying Cloud was built. Here is what I remember. It was a Brick iwth
a pointed at both ends Microtrawler kinda keel. It was designed and
built only to prove the concept of a box keel. Although the boat was
built heavy, it was necessary to flood portions of the keel to get the
boat down on its lines. This made more sense than other ballast
because the boat was already very very heavy.
I believe one result of the design's success was the concept cartoon
called SMS, for Small Motor Sailer. SMS was a 22' durable coastal
cruiser intended to use power and sail full time. Had a small diesel
for power.
Hope this helps, and someone knows where the scan resides.
>use water or metal
> Does anyone know of a Brick Flying Cloud on the water, and does it
> ballast? I'm interested in really small boats using water ballast.What is the smallest such
> Bolger design? I would include free-flooding deadwood or cutwater,rudders and other such
> details as pertinent to my inquiry. I suppose a longer boat wouldmake better use of the
> enhanced sail-carrying capacity, but corky little rowing doriesmight do well with a small pot
> of water underneath as well, right? There would be trimpossibilities...
>I read from a scan of an issue of MAIB (I think??) that at least one
Flying Cloud was built. Here is what I remember. It was a Brick iwth
a pointed at both ends Microtrawler kinda keel. It was designed and
built only to prove the concept of a box keel. Although the boat was
built heavy, it was necessary to flood portions of the keel to get the
boat down on its lines. This made more sense than other ballast
because the boat was already very very heavy.
I believe one result of the design's success was the concept cartoon
called SMS, for Small Motor Sailer. SMS was a 22' durable coastal
cruiser intended to use power and sail full time. Had a small diesel
for power.
Hope this helps, and someone knows where the scan resides.
Do any exist? The designer had mentioned that someone was thinking of building a few at
one time.
one time.
Tiny boats are already heavily ballasted by crew weight (and in most tiny boats, the crew weight exceeds the weight of the boat). Therefore, I would suggest that most tiny boats are already heavily ballasted (at least with crew on board) and that there is no need for additional ballast--water or otherwise.If you are sailing a tiny boat and you want to change the trim, slide your butt in the desired direction until the trim suits you.
JohnT
JohnT
----- Original Message -----
From: bklnbrick
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 11:43 AM
Subject: [bolger] Tiny, water-ballasted boats
Does anyone know of a Brick Flying Cloud on the water, and does it use water or metal
ballast? I'm interested in really small boats using water ballast. What is the smallest such
Bolger design? I would include free-flooding deadwood or cutwater, rudders and other such
details as pertinent to my inquiry. I suppose a longer boat would make better use of the
enhanced sail-carrying capacity, but corky little rowing dories might do well with a small pot
of water underneath as well, right? There would be trim possibilities...
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Does anyone know of a Brick Flying Cloud on the water, and does it use water or metal
ballast? I'm interested in really small boats using water ballast. What is the smallest such
Bolger design? I would include free-flooding deadwood or cutwater, rudders and other such
details as pertinent to my inquiry. I suppose a longer boat would make better use of the
enhanced sail-carrying capacity, but corky little rowing dories might do well with a small pot
of water underneath as well, right? There would be trim possibilities...
ballast? I'm interested in really small boats using water ballast. What is the smallest such
Bolger design? I would include free-flooding deadwood or cutwater, rudders and other such
details as pertinent to my inquiry. I suppose a longer boat would make better use of the
enhanced sail-carrying capacity, but corky little rowing dories might do well with a small pot
of water underneath as well, right? There would be trim possibilities...