Re: Small Clam Skiff
Cool!!. Pics!! Must have construction pics!! Gad, Paul, you're really
up and running on this one. Do you have insider knowledge that the
Rideau will be open early this year <G>>
Bryant
up and running on this one. Do you have insider knowledge that the
Rideau will be open early this year <G>>
Bryant
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Paul McLellan" <paulmclellan@...> wrote:
>
> Progress is fast on this boat. Yesterday I assembled the sides, transom
> and frames. I did it upright on two saw horses and dry fit everything
> first. It went together like a dream, with no adjustments required.
> Then I took it apart, cut the notches for the chines, gunwhales and
> limber holes and glued it together. This is a good looking boat for a
> box. The sheer lines and forward rocker are sweet and it looks better
> than I thought it would. This morning I removed all the screws and
> will start to glue in he chine logs and prepare for the bottom. I
> think a layer of 1" llumber for the shoe then glassed AND a 2 x 4
> sounds interesting and I will consider this. Since I am a use to
> destruction type and beach boats under all sorts of circumstance, the 2
> x 4 would be sacraficial and provide significant area for side drift
> and turning. It would also sit well on the trailer.
> before assembling, I had faired the sides, frames and glassed both
> sides of the bottom so very little finishing will be required to meet
> my orange peel standard.
> All in all this boat has been a great experience, cheap so far and will
> make a great work boat.
> I had considered putting about 3 inches of rocker aft since it will be
> a hull speed boat most of the time but declined. I do see a lot of
> merit in this approach for someone who wants a larger, practical human
> or electric powered craft.
> Build on but use your boats. regards Paul
>
Progress is fast on this boat. Yesterday I assembled the sides, transom
and frames. I did it upright on two saw horses and dry fit everything
first. It went together like a dream, with no adjustments required.
Then I took it apart, cut the notches for the chines, gunwhales and
limber holes and glued it together. This is a good looking boat for a
box. The sheer lines and forward rocker are sweet and it looks better
than I thought it would. This morning I removed all the screws and
will start to glue in he chine logs and prepare for the bottom. I
think a layer of 1" llumber for the shoe then glassed AND a 2 x 4
sounds interesting and I will consider this. Since I am a use to
destruction type and beach boats under all sorts of circumstance, the 2
x 4 would be sacraficial and provide significant area for side drift
and turning. It would also sit well on the trailer.
before assembling, I had faired the sides, frames and glassed both
sides of the bottom so very little finishing will be required to meet
my orange peel standard.
All in all this boat has been a great experience, cheap so far and will
make a great work boat.
I had considered putting about 3 inches of rocker aft since it will be
a hull speed boat most of the time but declined. I do see a lot of
merit in this approach for someone who wants a larger, practical human
or electric powered craft.
Build on but use your boats. regards Paul
and frames. I did it upright on two saw horses and dry fit everything
first. It went together like a dream, with no adjustments required.
Then I took it apart, cut the notches for the chines, gunwhales and
limber holes and glued it together. This is a good looking boat for a
box. The sheer lines and forward rocker are sweet and it looks better
than I thought it would. This morning I removed all the screws and
will start to glue in he chine logs and prepare for the bottom. I
think a layer of 1" llumber for the shoe then glassed AND a 2 x 4
sounds interesting and I will consider this. Since I am a use to
destruction type and beach boats under all sorts of circumstance, the 2
x 4 would be sacraficial and provide significant area for side drift
and turning. It would also sit well on the trailer.
before assembling, I had faired the sides, frames and glassed both
sides of the bottom so very little finishing will be required to meet
my orange peel standard.
All in all this boat has been a great experience, cheap so far and will
make a great work boat.
I had considered putting about 3 inches of rocker aft since it will be
a hull speed boat most of the time but declined. I do see a lot of
merit in this approach for someone who wants a larger, practical human
or electric powered craft.
Build on but use your boats. regards Paul
I like its all business style.
I was thinking along the same lines, as designed, it would be very
tough to pull up a beach.
Build it your way and give it a try.
Obviously, you will loose the stability from the weight of the
bottom.
If you get fex in the sides or bottom, add a splash rail to the
sides and bilge strips to the bottom, or try one 1/2" shoe.
I like the 2x4 keel as well, would certainly help with tracking.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Sloppy
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "donschultz8275" <donschultz@...>
wrote:
I was thinking along the same lines, as designed, it would be very
tough to pull up a beach.
Build it your way and give it a try.
Obviously, you will loose the stability from the weight of the
bottom.
If you get fex in the sides or bottom, add a splash rail to the
sides and bilge strips to the bottom, or try one 1/2" shoe.
I like the 2x4 keel as well, would certainly help with tracking.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Sloppy
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "donschultz8275" <donschultz@...>
wrote:
>was
> According to the essay in "BOATS WITH AN OPEN MIND", the design
> intended to be a rugged boat which would carry substantial power.issue
> IMO the reduced scantlings should work ok for the smallest motor.
>
> It seems possible that once on plane w' the 9.9 there MAY be an
> with directional stability because of the shallower "shoe". Aquick
> fix will be adding a 2x4 down the middle of the shoe. If there isthat's
> any issue with the bottom flexing in heavy chop, you could add a
> couple of 2X4s across as frames to stiffen things. But hey,
> just a guess.the
>
> I would build it light as you are thinking. If there are problems
> they are easily fixed.
>
> Don
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Paul McLellan" <paulmclellan@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I would be interested to hear any comments on the performance of
> the
> > small Clamskiff. We were so impressed with the performance of
> > Junebug last summer I was inspired to continue the fleet.glass
> > I am building the small clam skiff from the plan in Dynamite
> Paysons
> > newest book. It will be lightweight with 1/4 inch sides and
> frames,
> > with only one layer of 1/2 inch ply on the bottom. the sides,
> bottom
> > and frame panels will be glassed, with an additional layer of
> onthe
> > the forward bottom. I plan to use 1x8 inch lumber for the skid
> panel
> > for the bottom. Hopefully this boat will run adequately with
> Hondaspring
> > 2 hp as a lightweight utility, workboat and in a pinch can be
> carried
> > on the roof of the Houseboat the Happy adventure. In the off
> season I
> > could use the 9.9 yamaha on the clamskiff for more adventures on
> the
> > colder water of the St. lawrence and Ottawa Rivers in early
> andfor
> > late fall. I do have aspirations to make a davit for the Happy
> > adventure with the capicity to lift the clamskiff on and off the
> roof
> > but this is still in the thinking phase. Woohoo another boat
> the
> > fleet and the ever growing pile of boat in the backyard.
> >
>
According to the essay in "BOATS WITH AN OPEN MIND", the design was
intended to be a rugged boat which would carry substantial power.
IMO the reduced scantlings should work ok for the smallest motor.
It seems possible that once on plane w' the 9.9 there MAY be an issue
with directional stability because of the shallower "shoe". A quick
fix will be adding a 2x4 down the middle of the shoe. If there is
any issue with the bottom flexing in heavy chop, you could add a
couple of 2X4s across as frames to stiffen things. But hey, that's
just a guess.
I would build it light as you are thinking. If there are problems
they are easily fixed.
Don
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Paul McLellan" <paulmclellan@...>
wrote:
intended to be a rugged boat which would carry substantial power.
IMO the reduced scantlings should work ok for the smallest motor.
It seems possible that once on plane w' the 9.9 there MAY be an issue
with directional stability because of the shallower "shoe". A quick
fix will be adding a 2x4 down the middle of the shoe. If there is
any issue with the bottom flexing in heavy chop, you could add a
couple of 2X4s across as frames to stiffen things. But hey, that's
just a guess.
I would build it light as you are thinking. If there are problems
they are easily fixed.
Don
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Paul McLellan" <paulmclellan@...>
wrote:
>the
> I would be interested to hear any comments on the performance of
> small Clamskiff. We were so impressed with the performance of thePaysons
> Junebug last summer I was inspired to continue the fleet.
> I am building the small clam skiff from the plan in Dynamite
> newest book. It will be lightweight with 1/4 inch sides andframes,
> with only one layer of 1/2 inch ply on the bottom. the sides,bottom
> and frame panels will be glassed, with an additional layer of glasson
> the forward bottom. I plan to use 1x8 inch lumber for the skidpanel
> for the bottom. Hopefully this boat will run adequately with theHonda
> 2 hp as a lightweight utility, workboat and in a pinch can becarried
> on the roof of the Houseboat the Happy adventure. In the offseason I
> could use the 9.9 yamaha on the clamskiff for more adventures onthe
> colder water of the St. lawrence and Ottawa Rivers in early springand
> late fall. I do have aspirations to make a davit for the Happyroof
> adventure with the capicity to lift the clamskiff on and off the
> but this is still in the thinking phase. Woohoo another boat forthe
> fleet and the ever growing pile of boat in the backyard.
>
You go Paul! But you have to bring it to Bruce's Messabout.
Bryant
Bryant
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Paul McLellan" <paulmclellan@...> wrote:
>
> I would be interested to hear any comments on the performance of the
> small Clamskiff. We were so impressed with the performance of the
> Junebug last summer I was inspired to continue the fleet.
> I am building the small clam skiff from the plan in Dynamite Paysons
> newest book. It will be lightweight with 1/4 inch sides and frames,
> with only one layer of 1/2 inch ply on the bottom. the sides, bottom
> and frame panels will be glassed, with an additional layer of glass on
> the forward bottom. I plan to use 1x8 inch lumber for the skid panel
> for the bottom. Hopefully this boat will run adequately with the Honda
> 2 hp as a lightweight utility, workboat and in a pinch can be carried
> on the roof of the Houseboat the Happy adventure. In the off season I
> could use the 9.9 yamaha on the clamskiff for more adventures on the
> colder water of the St. lawrence and Ottawa Rivers in early spring and
> late fall. I do have aspirations to make a davit for the Happy
> adventure with the capicity to lift the clamskiff on and off the roof
> but this is still in the thinking phase. Woohoo another boat for the
> fleet and the ever growing pile of boat in the backyard.
>
I would be interested to hear any comments on the performance of the
small Clamskiff. We were so impressed with the performance of the
Junebug last summer I was inspired to continue the fleet.
I am building the small clam skiff from the plan in Dynamite Paysons
newest book. It will be lightweight with 1/4 inch sides and frames,
with only one layer of 1/2 inch ply on the bottom. the sides, bottom
and frame panels will be glassed, with an additional layer of glass on
the forward bottom. I plan to use 1x8 inch lumber for the skid panel
for the bottom. Hopefully this boat will run adequately with the Honda
2 hp as a lightweight utility, workboat and in a pinch can be carried
on the roof of the Houseboat the Happy adventure. In the off season I
could use the 9.9 yamaha on the clamskiff for more adventures on the
colder water of the St. lawrence and Ottawa Rivers in early spring and
late fall. I do have aspirations to make a davit for the Happy
adventure with the capicity to lift the clamskiff on and off the roof
but this is still in the thinking phase. Woohoo another boat for the
fleet and the ever growing pile of boat in the backyard.
small Clamskiff. We were so impressed with the performance of the
Junebug last summer I was inspired to continue the fleet.
I am building the small clam skiff from the plan in Dynamite Paysons
newest book. It will be lightweight with 1/4 inch sides and frames,
with only one layer of 1/2 inch ply on the bottom. the sides, bottom
and frame panels will be glassed, with an additional layer of glass on
the forward bottom. I plan to use 1x8 inch lumber for the skid panel
for the bottom. Hopefully this boat will run adequately with the Honda
2 hp as a lightweight utility, workboat and in a pinch can be carried
on the roof of the Houseboat the Happy adventure. In the off season I
could use the 9.9 yamaha on the clamskiff for more adventures on the
colder water of the St. lawrence and Ottawa Rivers in early spring and
late fall. I do have aspirations to make a davit for the Happy
adventure with the capicity to lift the clamskiff on and off the roof
but this is still in the thinking phase. Woohoo another boat for the
fleet and the ever growing pile of boat in the backyard.