Re: Chebacco Study Plans
I want to thank everyone for their input. I took the advice and
bought Paysons New book. Ihave now been able to compare the
differences between the two types of Chebaccos, and what Jamie says
here confirms my conclusion. The best of the Chebacco's ...for me...
is the original. I like the looks, the fact that it is considered to
be fairly stable without adding ballast, and is very trailerable. I
also talked to Ed Heins, he confirms that he loves his boat. It
sails well and he is content with the original cabin. I am not going
to live on the boat, I want to be able to get the kids out of the
weather and camp ocasionally. I am looking foraward to this build,
unfortunately, I have several honey-dos to get done before I can
start and I need more shop space!!!!
Bobby
bought Paysons New book. Ihave now been able to compare the
differences between the two types of Chebaccos, and what Jamie says
here confirms my conclusion. The best of the Chebacco's ...for me...
is the original. I like the looks, the fact that it is considered to
be fairly stable without adding ballast, and is very trailerable. I
also talked to Ed Heins, he confirms that he loves his boat. It
sails well and he is content with the original cabin. I am not going
to live on the boat, I want to be able to get the kids out of the
weather and camp ocasionally. I am looking foraward to this build,
unfortunately, I have several honey-dos to get done before I can
start and I need more shop space!!!!
Bobby
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jamie Orr" <jas_orr@...> wrote:
>
> I can't help it, I've got to add my two bits worth!
>
> I've been sailing the standard (vanilla) Chebacco since 2000 and
> she's a great boat. The cabin is small, but both myself and my
> father are 6 feet and over 200 pounds and we fit in comfortably
> without crowding. We use air mattresses, strapping them up against
> the hull during the day -- this way we don't lose any useful space
> in the cabin but don't have to pump then up every night. Headroom
> is sacrificed to good looks, when I sit upright my hair brushes the
> cabin top but I only go in there to sleep.
>
> If two people are sleeping in the cabin, the gear comes out into
the
> cockpit (plenty room for gear inside when single handed). We can
> also sleep in the cockpit. I have narrow rails running just below
> the cockpit seat tops that will take the floorboards, converting
the
> whole cockpit into a sleeping area. The boom tent covers the
> cockpit and has spreaders to give sitting headroom right out to the
> coaming.
>
> I keep galley equipment and food in two Rubbermaid storage boxes,
> these are a good size but don't ding the paint. The two burner
> propane stove goes under the cockpit seat, reached from the cabin,
> while the one pound propane bottles fit nicely into the storage
> under the motor well, entirely separate from the living space.
>
> The storage spaces on either side of the motor well hold all PFDs,
> two Mustang cruiser suits, regular wet weather gear, headsails
> (which are not necessary), fenders, ropes, boom tent and a three
man
> (two, really) inflatable with paddles and a decent sized stirrup
> type air pump.
>
> We usually cruise with two aboard, and have often been out for a
> week at a time, we have also spent several consecutive nights
> cruising with three. We've slept four, but it takes coordination
to
> get everything stowed and unstowed. The gear fitted under the
> raised floorboards but rather than risk having to pull them up
> multiple times we left one bag on the dock -- but we had space for
> it!
>
> We also carry a five gallon, hard plastic barrel for water, and a
> small porta-potti. We try to avoid using the porta potti, but it
> has saved the day once or twice. Placed just inside the cabin,
with
> the drop boards in place, you have perfect privacy from the neck
> down....
>
> So yes, the Chebacco is a small cruiser, but compared to
> backpacking, canoeing or kayaking, its downright palatial. And all
> this comes in a shallow draft, trailerable hull that would make far
> greater sacrifices well worthwhile.
>
> Jamie Orr,
> Chebacco "Wayward Lass"
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <wmjones56@> wrote:
> >
> > The cabin of the standard Chebacco is slightly larger than a
> standard
> > 2 person backpacking tent - just enough room for 2 people to lie
> down
> > with a little room at the hatch end for small items. I'm 6'2 and
> can
> > stretch out pretty good and sitting head room is adequate, but any
> > bulky items need to go out in the cockpit if 2 people are to
sleep
> in
> > the cabin.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "txsailor37" <txsailor37@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I guess the big question I am trying to get an answer to
> is...how big
> > > is the cabin? I can see from the study plans of the raised
deck
> > > version that it has 2 berths and would be acceptable for 2
> people to
> > > spend the weekend. I am concerned about the stability of the
> raised
> > > deck version though, and I like the lines of the standard more.
> But I
> > > am afraid the cabin on the standard version is so small as to
be
> > > unacceptable for a two people.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
I can't help it, I've got to add my two bits worth!
I've been sailing the standard (vanilla) Chebacco since 2000 and
she's a great boat. The cabin is small, but both myself and my
father are 6 feet and over 200 pounds and we fit in comfortably
without crowding. We use air mattresses, strapping them up against
the hull during the day -- this way we don't lose any useful space
in the cabin but don't have to pump then up every night. Headroom
is sacrificed to good looks, when I sit upright my hair brushes the
cabin top but I only go in there to sleep.
If two people are sleeping in the cabin, the gear comes out into the
cockpit (plenty room for gear inside when single handed). We can
also sleep in the cockpit. I have narrow rails running just below
the cockpit seat tops that will take the floorboards, converting the
whole cockpit into a sleeping area. The boom tent covers the
cockpit and has spreaders to give sitting headroom right out to the
coaming.
I keep galley equipment and food in two Rubbermaid storage boxes,
these are a good size but don't ding the paint. The two burner
propane stove goes under the cockpit seat, reached from the cabin,
while the one pound propane bottles fit nicely into the storage
under the motor well, entirely separate from the living space.
The storage spaces on either side of the motor well hold all PFDs,
two Mustang cruiser suits, regular wet weather gear, headsails
(which are not necessary), fenders, ropes, boom tent and a three man
(two, really) inflatable with paddles and a decent sized stirrup
type air pump.
We usually cruise with two aboard, and have often been out for a
week at a time, we have also spent several consecutive nights
cruising with three. We've slept four, but it takes coordination to
get everything stowed and unstowed. The gear fitted under the
raised floorboards but rather than risk having to pull them up
multiple times we left one bag on the dock -- but we had space for
it!
We also carry a five gallon, hard plastic barrel for water, and a
small porta-potti. We try to avoid using the porta potti, but it
has saved the day once or twice. Placed just inside the cabin, with
the drop boards in place, you have perfect privacy from the neck
down....
So yes, the Chebacco is a small cruiser, but compared to
backpacking, canoeing or kayaking, its downright palatial. And all
this comes in a shallow draft, trailerable hull that would make far
greater sacrifices well worthwhile.
Jamie Orr,
Chebacco "Wayward Lass"
I've been sailing the standard (vanilla) Chebacco since 2000 and
she's a great boat. The cabin is small, but both myself and my
father are 6 feet and over 200 pounds and we fit in comfortably
without crowding. We use air mattresses, strapping them up against
the hull during the day -- this way we don't lose any useful space
in the cabin but don't have to pump then up every night. Headroom
is sacrificed to good looks, when I sit upright my hair brushes the
cabin top but I only go in there to sleep.
If two people are sleeping in the cabin, the gear comes out into the
cockpit (plenty room for gear inside when single handed). We can
also sleep in the cockpit. I have narrow rails running just below
the cockpit seat tops that will take the floorboards, converting the
whole cockpit into a sleeping area. The boom tent covers the
cockpit and has spreaders to give sitting headroom right out to the
coaming.
I keep galley equipment and food in two Rubbermaid storage boxes,
these are a good size but don't ding the paint. The two burner
propane stove goes under the cockpit seat, reached from the cabin,
while the one pound propane bottles fit nicely into the storage
under the motor well, entirely separate from the living space.
The storage spaces on either side of the motor well hold all PFDs,
two Mustang cruiser suits, regular wet weather gear, headsails
(which are not necessary), fenders, ropes, boom tent and a three man
(two, really) inflatable with paddles and a decent sized stirrup
type air pump.
We usually cruise with two aboard, and have often been out for a
week at a time, we have also spent several consecutive nights
cruising with three. We've slept four, but it takes coordination to
get everything stowed and unstowed. The gear fitted under the
raised floorboards but rather than risk having to pull them up
multiple times we left one bag on the dock -- but we had space for
it!
We also carry a five gallon, hard plastic barrel for water, and a
small porta-potti. We try to avoid using the porta potti, but it
has saved the day once or twice. Placed just inside the cabin, with
the drop boards in place, you have perfect privacy from the neck
down....
So yes, the Chebacco is a small cruiser, but compared to
backpacking, canoeing or kayaking, its downright palatial. And all
this comes in a shallow draft, trailerable hull that would make far
greater sacrifices well worthwhile.
Jamie Orr,
Chebacco "Wayward Lass"
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <wmjones56@...> wrote:
>
> The cabin of the standard Chebacco is slightly larger than a
standard
> 2 person backpacking tent - just enough room for 2 people to lie
down
> with a little room at the hatch end for small items. I'm 6'2 and
can
> stretch out pretty good and sitting head room is adequate, but any
> bulky items need to go out in the cockpit if 2 people are to sleep
in
> the cabin.
>
> Bill
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "txsailor37" <txsailor37@> wrote:
> >
> > I guess the big question I am trying to get an answer to
is...how big
> > is the cabin? I can see from the study plans of the raised deck
> > version that it has 2 berths and would be acceptable for 2
people to
> > spend the weekend. I am concerned about the stability of the
raised
> > deck version though, and I like the lines of the standard more.
But I
> > am afraid the cabin on the standard version is so small as to be
> > unacceptable for a two people.
> >
> >
>
"Boats with an Open Mind" shows plans for a sheet-ply 20-ft. version
with a shallow fixed lead-ballasted keel, higher topsides and a
longer, higher shelter house with large windows.
Inside there's a settee-berth on each side, with a shelf for a stove
on the centreline forward and a space for stowing a Porta-Potti on the
centreline aft, under the self-draining cockpit.
Howard
with a shallow fixed lead-ballasted keel, higher topsides and a
longer, higher shelter house with large windows.
Inside there's a settee-berth on each side, with a shelf for a stove
on the centreline forward and a space for stowing a Porta-Potti on the
centreline aft, under the self-draining cockpit.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Clyde Wisner <clydewis@...> wrote:
>
> Is there a navigator version of Chebacco?
The cabin of the standard Chebacco is slightly larger than a standard
2 person backpacking tent - just enough room for 2 people to lie down
with a little room at the hatch end for small items. I'm 6'2 and can
stretch out pretty good and sitting head room is adequate, but any
bulky items need to go out in the cockpit if 2 people are to sleep in
the cabin.
Bill
2 person backpacking tent - just enough room for 2 people to lie down
with a little room at the hatch end for small items. I'm 6'2 and can
stretch out pretty good and sitting head room is adequate, but any
bulky items need to go out in the cockpit if 2 people are to sleep in
the cabin.
Bill
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "txsailor37" <txsailor37@...> wrote:
>
> I guess the big question I am trying to get an answer to is...how big
> is the cabin? I can see from the study plans of the raised deck
> version that it has 2 berths and would be acceptable for 2 people to
> spend the weekend. I am concerned about the stability of the raised
> deck version though, and I like the lines of the standard more. But I
> am afraid the cabin on the standard version is so small as to be
> unacceptable for a two people.
>
>
Is there a navigator version of Chebacco? Clyde
Bruce Hallman wrote:
Bruce Hallman wrote:
> On Jan 18, 2008 9:06 AM, txsailor37 <txsailor37@...[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> <mailto:txsailor37%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I am seriously considering building a Chebacco. I would like to do a
>
> > have looked everywhere, the entire Chebacco News website. Does anyone
> > know where I can study plans for this version?????
>
>
>
>
Hey guys --
Don't take it offline! There's a number of us here who would love to
eavesdrop on everything Ed has to say. Or, if you talk on the phone,
at least post the highlights . . .
All best,
Garth
(who never tires of hearing about Chebaccos)
Don't take it offline! There's a number of us here who would love to
eavesdrop on everything Ed has to say. Or, if you talk on the phone,
at least post the highlights . . .
All best,
Garth
(who never tires of hearing about Chebaccos)
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Heins" <eheins@...> wrote:
>
> I've built a Chebacco and would be glad to talk to you off line
about cabin
> size, building issues or any other areas of concern you might have.
> Email me off line and I'll give you my cell number.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "txsailor37" <txsailor37@...>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 4:14 PM
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Chebacco Study Plans
>
>
> >I guess the big question I am trying to get an answer to is...how big
> > is the cabin? I can see from the study plans of the raised deck
> > version that it has 2 berths and would be acceptable for 2 people to
> > spend the weekend. I am concerned about the stability of the raised
> > deck version though, and I like the lines of the standard more. But I
> > am afraid the cabin on the standard version is so small as to be
> > unacceptable for a two people.
>
I doubt that you will get a better offer than the one from Ed, but
there is an entire chapter in "Boats with an open mind" devoted to the
Chebacco boats. I've uploaded a scruffy scan of the construction
drawings to the Study Plans group, under the Chebacco heading where
you found the Raised deck images. [my apologies for the quality, the
computer to hand has no image edit software installed :) ]
there is an entire chapter in "Boats with an open mind" devoted to the
Chebacco boats. I've uploaded a scruffy scan of the construction
drawings to the Study Plans group, under the Chebacco heading where
you found the Raised deck images. [my apologies for the quality, the
computer to hand has no image edit software installed :) ]
I've built a Chebacco and would be glad to talk to you off line about cabin
size, building issues or any other areas of concern you might have.
Email me off line and I'll give you my cell number.
Regards,
Ed
size, building issues or any other areas of concern you might have.
Email me off line and I'll give you my cell number.
Regards,
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "txsailor37" <txsailor37@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 4:14 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Chebacco Study Plans
>I guess the big question I am trying to get an answer to is...how big
> is the cabin? I can see from the study plans of the raised deck
> version that it has 2 berths and would be acceptable for 2 people to
> spend the weekend. I am concerned about the stability of the raised
> deck version though, and I like the lines of the standard more. But I
> am afraid the cabin on the standard version is so small as to be
> unacceptable for a two people.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "txsailor37" <txsailor37@...> wrote:
>>
>> I am seriously considering building a Chebacco. I would like to do a
>> comparison between the standard 20' model and the raised deck version.
>> I found the study plans for the rasied deck version in the sudy plans
>> group, but I can not find any study plans for the standard model. I
>> have looked everywhere, including the entire Chebacco News website.
>> Does anyone know where I can study plans for this version?????
>>
>
>
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I guess the big question I am trying to get an answer to is...how big
is the cabin? I can see from the study plans of the raised deck
version that it has 2 berths and would be acceptable for 2 people to
spend the weekend. I am concerned about the stability of the raised
deck version though, and I like the lines of the standard more. But I
am afraid the cabin on the standard version is so small as to be
unacceptable for a two people.
is the cabin? I can see from the study plans of the raised deck
version that it has 2 berths and would be acceptable for 2 people to
spend the weekend. I am concerned about the stability of the raised
deck version though, and I like the lines of the standard more. But I
am afraid the cabin on the standard version is so small as to be
unacceptable for a two people.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "txsailor37" <txsailor37@...> wrote:
>
> I am seriously considering building a Chebacco. I would like to do a
> comparison between the standard 20' model and the raised deck version.
> I found the study plans for the rasied deck version in the sudy plans
> group, but I can not find any study plans for the standard model. I
> have looked everywhere, including the entire Chebacco News website.
> Does anyone know where I can study plans for this version?????
>
You also might consider just buying the standard 20' version plans
from Payson. They are only $60.00 which is not a lot for a set of
plans of a boat of this size and capability. Also you will learn much
more from complete plans than any set of study plans.
I very much like this design. It is just more boat than I can build
in my garage. Otherwise I might build one.
Chris Feller
from Payson. They are only $60.00 which is not a lot for a set of
plans of a boat of this size and capability. Also you will learn much
more from complete plans than any set of study plans.
I very much like this design. It is just more boat than I can build
in my garage. Otherwise I might build one.
Chris Feller
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "txsailor37" <txsailor37@...> wrote:
>
> I am seriously considering building a Chebacco. I would like to do a
> comparison between the standard 20' model and the raised deck version.
> I found the study plans for the rasied deck version in the sudy plans
> group, but I can not find any study plans for the standard model. I
> have looked everywhere, including the entire Chebacco News website.
> Does anyone know where I can study plans for this version?????
>
> I am seriously considering building a Chebacco. I would like to do aversion.
> comparison between the standard 20' model and the raised deck
> I found the study plans for the rasied deck version in the sudy plansThe complete plans for the original sheet-plywood version are in
> group, but I can not find any study plans for the standard model. I
> have looked everywhere, including the entire Chebacco News website.
> Does anyone know where I can study plans for this version?????
Payson's latest book, available from his website www.instantboats.com
or from the WoodenBoat Store. Much of the original plan also appears
in Bolger's book Boats With an Open Mind, available from several
sources, including WB. That book also has some details of the other
versions.
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
On Jan 18, 2008 9:06 AM, txsailor37 <txsailor37@...> wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/Boats-Open-Mind-Seventy-Five-Unconventional/dp/0070063761
starting on page 223 (Chapter 45)
Also, I see that Payson at www.instantboats.com sells Chebacco study
plans for $0.50.
You also may have already seen my 3D study renderings.
http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/1361835861/
>You have probably see the chapter in Bolger's book _Boats With an Open Mind_
> I am seriously considering building a Chebacco. I would like to do a
> have looked everywhere, the entire Chebacco News website. Does anyone
> know where I can study plans for this version?????
http://www.amazon.com/Boats-Open-Mind-Seventy-Five-Unconventional/dp/0070063761
starting on page 223 (Chapter 45)
Also, I see that Payson at www.instantboats.com sells Chebacco study
plans for $0.50.
You also may have already seen my 3D study renderings.
http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/1361835861/
I am seriously considering building a Chebacco. I would like to do a
comparison between the standard 20' model and the raised deck version.
I found the study plans for the rasied deck version in the sudy plans
group, but I can not find any study plans for the standard model. I
have looked everywhere, including the entire Chebacco News website.
Does anyone know where I can study plans for this version?????
comparison between the standard 20' model and the raised deck version.
I found the study plans for the rasied deck version in the sudy plans
group, but I can not find any study plans for the standard model. I
have looked everywhere, including the entire Chebacco News website.
Does anyone know where I can study plans for this version?????