Re: Barge (was Houseboat Concept)
There's also this little gem that could almost be a Bolger design:
http://www.mission-base.com/pedal-power/pp_escargot_layout.html
Howard
http://www.mission-base.com/pedal-power/pp_escargot_layout.html
Howard
Try this:
http://www.triloboats.com/
Some interesting ideas there.
Howard
http://www.triloboats.com/
Some interesting ideas there.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "kellymike44" <kellymike44@...> wrote:
>
> There is a guy in Alaska named Dave Zieger who builds "barges" for
pleasure cruising. He
> seems to like them quite a bit. Go to www.triloboat.com
There is a guy in Alaska named Dave Zieger who builds "barges" for pleasure cruising. He
seems to like them quite a bit. Go to www.triloboat.com for more info. He is also a PB
fan and his barge designs reflect that.
Mike Kelly!
seems to like them quite a bit. Go to www.triloboat.com for more info. He is also a PB
fan and his barge designs reflect that.
Mike Kelly!
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bob Johnson <dredbob@...> wrote:
>
> On Friday, March 28, 2008, 8:14 am PDT, daschultz2000 wrote:
>
> > Ugly word, barge. No nice connotations. I've always liked Illinois
> > and never thought of it as a barge.
>
> I must disagree. Barge is an ancient nautical term that has been
> applied to various forms of watercraft over the centuries, and it is
> only in the last half century or so that it has come to be associated
> in most people's (or at least most Americans) mind primarily with the
> pushed or towed scow shaped cargo carrier that I'm sure you were
> thinking of.
>
> But there are other types of vessels that are or have been called
> barges, and most of them have been shapely, seaworthy vessels. Some
> have been utilitarian cargo carriers, while others have been the most
> opulent varieties of pleasure craft, both large and small.
>
> Among the cargo craft, the sailing Thames Barges come immediately to
> mind as a beautiful, yet functional craft that plied the coastal trade
> in England right up to the second world war. The influence of these
> craft can be seen in many of PCB's larger designs.
>
> Then there was the barge that was one of the boats of a sailing ship,
> usually one of the most ornate and used by the captain.
>
> There are the ceremonial barges used down through the centuries for
> matters of state, funerals, coronations, etc. In fact, one of PCB's
> designs is called "Ceremonial Barge", and is a vee-bottomed plywood
> interpretation of the type. It is described in his book _Boats with an
> Open Mind_.
>
> In our own history, barge was used to refer to several form of rowing
> and sailing military craft, most of which were round hulled while
> others were of scow form. Consider Joshua Barney's actions against the
> British during the revolution.
>
> The very etymology of the word goes back to Greek and Egyptian words
> meaning simply boat or rowboat (as do a majority of the words which we
> use today to refer to specific type of craft).
>
> The pleasure barges of the Nile river were opulently decorated sailing
> houseboats used by wealthy personages traveling through Egypt.
>
> Even today in Europe one can charter a motorized barge to cruise
> through the extensive network of inland canals and waterways. Many of
> these are very traditional, such as the narrowboats of Britain.
>
> So, to me, "barge" has many nice connotations.
>
> ---
> Bob
>
There is a guy in Alaska named Dave Zieger who builds "barges" for pleasure cruising. He
seems to like them quite a bit. Go to www.triloboat.com for more info. He is also a PB
fan and his barge designs reflect that.
Mike Kelly!
seems to like them quite a bit. Go to www.triloboat.com for more info. He is also a PB
fan and his barge designs reflect that.
Mike Kelly!
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bob Johnson <dredbob@...> wrote:
>
> On Friday, March 28, 2008, 8:14 am PDT, daschultz2000 wrote:
>
> > Ugly word, barge. No nice connotations. I've always liked Illinois
> > and never thought of it as a barge.
>
> I must disagree. Barge is an ancient nautical term that has been
> applied to various forms of watercraft over the centuries, and it is
> only in the last half century or so that it has come to be associated
> in most people's (or at least most Americans) mind primarily with the
> pushed or towed scow shaped cargo carrier that I'm sure you were
> thinking of.
>
> But there are other types of vessels that are or have been called
> barges, and most of them have been shapely, seaworthy vessels. Some
> have been utilitarian cargo carriers, while others have been the most
> opulent varieties of pleasure craft, both large and small.
>
> Among the cargo craft, the sailing Thames Barges come immediately to
> mind as a beautiful, yet functional craft that plied the coastal trade
> in England right up to the second world war. The influence of these
> craft can be seen in many of PCB's larger designs.
>
> Then there was the barge that was one of the boats of a sailing ship,
> usually one of the most ornate and used by the captain.
>
> There are the ceremonial barges used down through the centuries for
> matters of state, funerals, coronations, etc. In fact, one of PCB's
> designs is called "Ceremonial Barge", and is a vee-bottomed plywood
> interpretation of the type. It is described in his book _Boats with an
> Open Mind_.
>
> In our own history, barge was used to refer to several form of rowing
> and sailing military craft, most of which were round hulled while
> others were of scow form. Consider Joshua Barney's actions against the
> British during the revolution.
>
> The very etymology of the word goes back to Greek and Egyptian words
> meaning simply boat or rowboat (as do a majority of the words which we
> use today to refer to specific type of craft).
>
> The pleasure barges of the Nile river were opulently decorated sailing
> houseboats used by wealthy personages traveling through Egypt.
>
> Even today in Europe one can charter a motorized barge to cruise
> through the extensive network of inland canals and waterways. Many of
> these are very traditional, such as the narrowboats of Britain.
>
> So, to me, "barge" has many nice connotations.
>
> ---
> Bob
>
To paraphrase an old song:
The Captain, he rides in a motorboat
The Admiral he rides in a barge
It don't go a single bit faster
But it makes the old buzzard feel large.
Bob Johnson wrote:
The Captain, he rides in a motorboat
The Admiral he rides in a barge
It don't go a single bit faster
But it makes the old buzzard feel large.
Bob Johnson wrote:
> On Friday, March 28, 2008, 8:14 am PDT, daschultz2000 wrote:
>
>
>> Ugly word, barge. No nice connotations. I've always liked Illinois
>> and never thought of it as a barge.
>>
>
> I must disagree. Barge is an ancient nautical term that has been
> applied to various forms of watercraft over the centuries, and it is
> only in the last half century or so that it has come to be associated
> in most people's (or at least most Americans) mind primarily with the
> pushed or towed scow shaped cargo carrier that I'm sure you were
> thinking of.
>
>
>
On Friday, March 28, 2008, 8:14 am PDT, daschultz2000 wrote:
applied to various forms of watercraft over the centuries, and it is
only in the last half century or so that it has come to be associated
in most people's (or at least most Americans) mind primarily with the
pushed or towed scow shaped cargo carrier that I'm sure you were
thinking of.
But there are other types of vessels that are or have been called
barges, and most of them have been shapely, seaworthy vessels. Some
have been utilitarian cargo carriers, while others have been the most
opulent varieties of pleasure craft, both large and small.
Among the cargo craft, the sailing Thames Barges come immediately to
mind as a beautiful, yet functional craft that plied the coastal trade
in England right up to the second world war. The influence of these
craft can be seen in many of PCB's larger designs.
Then there was the barge that was one of the boats of a sailing ship,
usually one of the most ornate and used by the captain.
There are the ceremonial barges used down through the centuries for
matters of state, funerals, coronations, etc. In fact, one of PCB's
designs is called "Ceremonial Barge", and is a vee-bottomed plywood
interpretation of the type. It is described in his book _Boats with an
Open Mind_.
In our own history, barge was used to refer to several form of rowing
and sailing military craft, most of which were round hulled while
others were of scow form. Consider Joshua Barney's actions against the
British during the revolution.
The very etymology of the word goes back to Greek and Egyptian words
meaning simply boat or rowboat (as do a majority of the words which we
use today to refer to specific type of craft).
The pleasure barges of the Nile river were opulently decorated sailing
houseboats used by wealthy personages traveling through Egypt.
Even today in Europe one can charter a motorized barge to cruise
through the extensive network of inland canals and waterways. Many of
these are very traditional, such as the narrowboats of Britain.
So, to me, "barge" has many nice connotations.
---
Bob
> Ugly word, barge. No nice connotations. I've always liked IllinoisI must disagree. Barge is an ancient nautical term that has been
> and never thought of it as a barge.
applied to various forms of watercraft over the centuries, and it is
only in the last half century or so that it has come to be associated
in most people's (or at least most Americans) mind primarily with the
pushed or towed scow shaped cargo carrier that I'm sure you were
thinking of.
But there are other types of vessels that are or have been called
barges, and most of them have been shapely, seaworthy vessels. Some
have been utilitarian cargo carriers, while others have been the most
opulent varieties of pleasure craft, both large and small.
Among the cargo craft, the sailing Thames Barges come immediately to
mind as a beautiful, yet functional craft that plied the coastal trade
in England right up to the second world war. The influence of these
craft can be seen in many of PCB's larger designs.
Then there was the barge that was one of the boats of a sailing ship,
usually one of the most ornate and used by the captain.
There are the ceremonial barges used down through the centuries for
matters of state, funerals, coronations, etc. In fact, one of PCB's
designs is called "Ceremonial Barge", and is a vee-bottomed plywood
interpretation of the type. It is described in his book _Boats with an
Open Mind_.
In our own history, barge was used to refer to several form of rowing
and sailing military craft, most of which were round hulled while
others were of scow form. Consider Joshua Barney's actions against the
British during the revolution.
The very etymology of the word goes back to Greek and Egyptian words
meaning simply boat or rowboat (as do a majority of the words which we
use today to refer to specific type of craft).
The pleasure barges of the Nile river were opulently decorated sailing
houseboats used by wealthy personages traveling through Egypt.
Even today in Europe one can charter a motorized barge to cruise
through the extensive network of inland canals and waterways. Many of
these are very traditional, such as the narrowboats of Britain.
So, to me, "barge" has many nice connotations.
---
Bob