Re: Grandpa's Pirate Ship
No worries, Bruce, and thanks for sharing the link and the renderings. It really gives you
pause to imagine setting off to uncharted lands in a ship like that without knowing if you'll
ever make it back.
By the way, speaking of renderings, you had posted what looked like a collage of screen
captures of renderings of Grandpa's Pirate Ship in your post "Amazing Grandpa's Pirate Ship"
over a year ago.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/message/52672
Any chance you could add some of those renderings to the growing family on your Flickr
pages?
Thanks!
Matthew
pause to imagine setting off to uncharted lands in a ship like that without knowing if you'll
ever make it back.
By the way, speaking of renderings, you had posted what looked like a collage of screen
captures of renderings of Grandpa's Pirate Ship in your post "Amazing Grandpa's Pirate Ship"
over a year ago.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/message/52672
Any chance you could add some of those renderings to the growing family on your Flickr
pages?
Thanks!
Matthew
Sorry for straying a bit off topic, but last week, that replica tall
ship patterned after Columbus' Nina paid a visit to San Francisco Pier
9. The ship is of a class known as a Portuguese Caraval, and was
painstakingly crafted in traditional methods. Heck-of-fun $5 tour,
too. Anyway, this certainly qualifies as a 'pirate ship' of sorts,
and nothing beats making an isometric model to help oneself to
understand the geometry of the rigging of a tall ship!
The website for the replicahttp://www.thenina.com/
And some isometrics I worked out...
http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2497145617/
ship patterned after Columbus' Nina paid a visit to San Francisco Pier
9. The ship is of a class known as a Portuguese Caraval, and was
painstakingly crafted in traditional methods. Heck-of-fun $5 tour,
too. Anyway, this certainly qualifies as a 'pirate ship' of sorts,
and nothing beats making an isometric model to help oneself to
understand the geometry of the rigging of a tall ship!
The website for the replicahttp://www.thenina.com/
And some isometrics I worked out...
http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2497145617/
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bob Johnson <dredbob@...> wrote:
Those are both good suggestions, especially St. Valery, IMHO. Unfortunately, where we
live now (Tunisia) there are almost no small cruisers for sale, just plastic outboard utilities,
a few very rough traditional boats and large cruising yachts. My family and I will be in
France this summer, so maybe I'll find something used that I can ship back. More than
likely, though, I will just build another small boat and we will make due.
Cheers,
Matthew
>Thanks, Bob.
>
> On Saturday, May 10, 2008, at 12:45 PM, Peillet-Long Family wrote:
>
> > ...something with accommodations of some kind like the Grandpa's
> > Pirate Ship concept design.
>
>
> The two that come to mind for me would be the Jochems Schooner (what
> could be more piratical than a schooner?) and also the St. Valery
> design, which also has a schoonerish aspect, although it is lug rigged.
>
> You might also consider a Birdwatcher, which with the proper decoration
> could look quite piratical.
>
> One thing to keep in mind with all of these, is the time needed to
> build. They will all likely take at least a couple of years, given the
> realities of most folks' lives and the amount of time actually
> available to be devoted to building.
>
> So if you have children who are Right Now at the prime age to enjoy
> such adventures, then my advice is to do whatever it takes to get a
> small cruising boat Right Now and get out there and DO IT. The perfect
> ship too late can never equal the memories and shared experiences that
> you will have by doing it now in any boat. Remember, 90% of any
> adventure takes place in the mind anyway.
>
> The reality is that smaller, older, fiberglass cruising boats can be
> had just about anywhere far cheaper that the cost of building just
> about any thing.
>
> ---
> Bob
Those are both good suggestions, especially St. Valery, IMHO. Unfortunately, where we
live now (Tunisia) there are almost no small cruisers for sale, just plastic outboard utilities,
a few very rough traditional boats and large cruising yachts. My family and I will be in
France this summer, so maybe I'll find something used that I can ship back. More than
likely, though, I will just build another small boat and we will make due.
Cheers,
Matthew
On Saturday, May 10, 2008, at 12:45 PM, Peillet-Long Family wrote:
could be more piratical than a schooner?) and also the St. Valery
design, which also has a schoonerish aspect, although it is lug rigged.
You might also consider a Birdwatcher, which with the proper decoration
could look quite piratical.
One thing to keep in mind with all of these, is the time needed to
build. They will all likely take at least a couple of years, given the
realities of most folks' lives and the amount of time actually
available to be devoted to building.
So if you have children who are Right Now at the prime age to enjoy
such adventures, then my advice is to do whatever it takes to get a
small cruising boat Right Now and get out there and DO IT. The perfect
ship too late can never equal the memories and shared experiences that
you will have by doing it now in any boat. Remember, 90% of any
adventure takes place in the mind anyway.
The reality is that smaller, older, fiberglass cruising boats can be
had just about anywhere far cheaper that the cost of building just
about any thing.
---
Bob
> ...something with accommodations of some kind like the Grandpa'sThe two that come to mind for me would be the Jochems Schooner (what
> Pirate Ship concept design.
could be more piratical than a schooner?) and also the St. Valery
design, which also has a schoonerish aspect, although it is lug rigged.
You might also consider a Birdwatcher, which with the proper decoration
could look quite piratical.
One thing to keep in mind with all of these, is the time needed to
build. They will all likely take at least a couple of years, given the
realities of most folks' lives and the amount of time actually
available to be devoted to building.
So if you have children who are Right Now at the prime age to enjoy
such adventures, then my advice is to do whatever it takes to get a
small cruising boat Right Now and get out there and DO IT. The perfect
ship too late can never equal the memories and shared experiences that
you will have by doing it now in any boat. Remember, 90% of any
adventure takes place in the mind anyway.
The reality is that smaller, older, fiberglass cruising boats can be
had just about anywhere far cheaper that the cost of building just
about any thing.
---
Bob
While at a resort with my family a few weeks ago, I was watching my kids and some others
at play on a pirate-ship-shaped fort and having a blast, I got to thinking, hey, I could
build something like this and we could really play pirate!
I should add that we have a Tortoise that I built on an apartment balcony a few years ago
that has never touched the water but nonetheless gets good use in the backyard as "The
Black Pearl" for our three kids ages 8, 4 and 2. It it's latest guise it is even black and white
with painted cannon ports and a little mast so the kids can raise and lower the flag. And
we have lots of plastic swords, eye patches, etc.
Now that I am home, I am wondering what I might realistically build along those lines. I
could try to tackle a 60' schooner, but that's probably a bit much. So I guess what I mean
by "similar" is a small family cruising boat that's not too hard to build or sail that still has
enough of a rakish look for the Jolly Roger and a fake cannon (at least swivel guns!) to
look natural on it.
It comes to me as I am writing this that the Stevenson Weekender and sister ships, for
example, with their exaggerated sheer and false clipper bows seem relatively easy to build
and have the right look.
Just looking for some more ideas...
at play on a pirate-ship-shaped fort and having a blast, I got to thinking, hey, I could
build something like this and we could really play pirate!
I should add that we have a Tortoise that I built on an apartment balcony a few years ago
that has never touched the water but nonetheless gets good use in the backyard as "The
Black Pearl" for our three kids ages 8, 4 and 2. It it's latest guise it is even black and white
with painted cannon ports and a little mast so the kids can raise and lower the flag. And
we have lots of plastic swords, eye patches, etc.
Now that I am home, I am wondering what I might realistically build along those lines. I
could try to tackle a 60' schooner, but that's probably a bit much. So I guess what I mean
by "similar" is a small family cruising boat that's not too hard to build or sail that still has
enough of a rakish look for the Jolly Roger and a fake cannon (at least swivel guns!) to
look natural on it.
It comes to me as I am writing this that the Stevenson Weekender and sister ships, for
example, with their exaggerated sheer and false clipper bows seem relatively easy to build
and have the right look.
Just looking for some more ideas...
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@...> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know if the Grandpa's Pirate Ship design in
> > BWAOM was ever carried beyond the cartoon stage? If not, any ideas on
> > something similar that did make it to the buildable plans stage?
>
> What do you mean by "similar"?
>
> If you mean a boat of similar size and rig, then there is the Leeboard
> Catboat which is slightly larger. The Lynx catboat is a smaller. You
> can find several true Cape Cod Catboats by different designers.
>
> If you mean boats with Pirate, or square rig, themes, there is the
> Pirate Racer (much smaller) and the Brigantine (much bigger at 32').
>
> And there's the triple-keel sloop from which the Pirate ship was derived.
>
> Not PCB and a very different approach, but if the idea is to
> entertain, you might look at the Swiftsure here:
>
>http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jw/swiftsure/index.htm
>
> Does anyone know if the Grandpa's Pirate Ship design inWhat do you mean by "similar"?
> BWAOM was ever carried beyond the cartoon stage? If not, any ideas on
> something similar that did make it to the buildable plans stage?
If you mean a boat of similar size and rig, then there is the Leeboard
Catboat which is slightly larger. The Lynx catboat is a smaller. You
can find several true Cape Cod Catboats by different designers.
If you mean boats with Pirate, or square rig, themes, there is the
Pirate Racer (much smaller) and the Brigantine (much bigger at 32').
And there's the triple-keel sloop from which the Pirate ship was derived.
Not PCB and a very different approach, but if the idea is to
entertain, you might look at the Swiftsure here:
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jw/swiftsure/index.htm
Ahoy, Bolgeristas!
I've been away from the group for quite some time, but I'm back with a
question. Does anyone know if the Grandpa's Pirate Ship design in
BWAOM was ever carried beyond the cartoon stage? If not, any ideas on
something similar that did make it to the buildable plans stage?
I did see the greet Bruce Hallman CAD images of the design, bravo
Bruce, I am still drooling.
Cheers, all,
Matthew
I've been away from the group for quite some time, but I'm back with a
question. Does anyone know if the Grandpa's Pirate Ship design in
BWAOM was ever carried beyond the cartoon stage? If not, any ideas on
something similar that did make it to the buildable plans stage?
I did see the greet Bruce Hallman CAD images of the design, bravo
Bruce, I am still drooling.
Cheers, all,
Matthew