Re: Bamboo, Canoes and More Garveys

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
>
> ***I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could scan and email me
> the article "Building a Sailing Garvey" from SBJ #53 of March 1987



This article is in the Files section of the boatdesign Yahoo group.

Peter
Yep,

this is a great group all right. Thanks again Mike.

Graeme


--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
>
> ***I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could scan and email me
> the article "Building a Sailing Garvey" from SBJ #53 of March 1987 as
> listed in 1) below.***
***I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could scan and email me
the article "Building a Sailing Garvey" from SBJ #53 of March 1987 as
listed in 1) below.***

All sorts of neat boater stuff here worth browsing, but the
archiving/searching takes some getting used to -
http://www.sailboatowners.com/then goto
http://www.sailboatowners.com/trailersailor/index.htmlook at the
archived articles. Below I've posted 2 items for instance:
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1) (I have no way of knowing how valid the SBJ index below is,
nevertheless it may be of interest to many Bolgerados.)
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Small Boat Journal Index to Articles
Rich Edmonson <Send E-Mail> -- 3/17/01 2:50p.m.

Small Boat Journal Index
Legend
Format of presentation is:
Year
Issues start with Issue Number (#XX) and month.
Review multiple page article dedicated to a review of a particular
boat
Article General Interest
Small Review Review of a boat less than 1 page (usually a side bar)
Boat length dimensions are those in name of boat or what is
specified. Example; Newport 16 is the name of a boat that is 15' 7"
LOA. Delvin Winter Wren 22' 7" is a kit boat whose LOA is 22' 7"
mono-sail = monohull sailboat
cruise = berths for sleeping are part of boat
row = boat is small enough to row
kit/plans = boat is either a kit or made from plans or both.
race = boat is/was used in Olympic competition or is primarily a
racer..
canoe = sailing canoe
tri. = trimaran
cat. = catamaran
steel = hull is steel
wood = hull is plywood or of other wood construction.
All other boats are assumed to be fiberglass
1983
#31-July
Review - Haine Hunter Tramp 19' 6" - tri - sail - cruise
Review - Solo 22 - mono - sail - cruise
Review - Bateau 15' - mono - sail - row
Article - The Shipwreck That Wasn't - Red Sea cruise in an open
Lugger.
Article - Cruise and Carry outboards. Maintenance
#32-September
Review - Gloucester 16 - mono - sail - cruise
Review - Fjording 19.5 - mono - sail - cruise - wood - custom
Review - Bolger Little Fuss 18' 10" - mono - sail
Article - A-Class Catamarans - Racing cats.
Article - Small Outboard Ignition Systems.
Small Review - Narrasketuck 20' 6" - mono - sail
#33- November
Review - Ranger 20 - mono - sail - cruise
Review - H-Boat 27' 3" - mono - sail - cruise
Article - The Darndest Duckboat Afloat.
Article - Small Outboard Lower Units. Maintenance
1984
#34- January
Review - Delvin Winter Wren 22' 7" - mono - sail - cruise - wood
Article - DN Iceboat Warming Up Winter
#35- March
Review - Wylie Wabbit 23' 9" - mono - sail - cruise - race
Review - Hartley TS-16 - mono - sail - cruise - kit/plans
Review - Bolger Presto-style Cruiser 27' - mono - sail - cruise -
kit/plans
Review - Appledore Pod 16' & 19' - mono - sail - row -custom wood
Article - Bahama Sojourn -cruising in a sailing canoe.
Article - Mighty Mite Outboards
Small Review - Camelot 27 - mono - sail - cruise
Small Review - West Wight Potter 19- mono - sail - cruise
#36- May
Review - Gloucester 11 - mono - sail
Review - Great Pelican 16 - mono - sail - cruise - kit/plans
Review - Swampscott Dory 16' - mono -sail - row
Article - Cartop Roof Racks
Article - The Wayfarer Logs -Cruising in a 16' Wayfarer dinghy
Article - Fast 40 - Technical article on 40' racing boats
Small Review - Heritage Cruising Catboat 20' - mono - sail - cruise
Small Review - Minuet Pocket Cruiser 16' 8" - mono - sail - cruise
#37- July
Review - Spindrift 22 - mono - sail - cruise
Article - Chariots of Sail -Olympic race boats Tornado, Windglider,
Flying Dutchman, Soling, Star, Finn, International 470.
Small Review - Cherub 23 - mono - sail - cruise - steel
#38- September
Review - Rob Roy 23 - mono - sail - cruise
Review - Bolger Fast Daysailor 31' - mono - sail - kit/plans
Article - Long Island's Great South Bay
Article - Catapult - 16' 5" inflatable catamaran
Article - Portaboat
Article - Adding Your Own Lead Ballast
Small Review - Fricka 18' - tri -sail - canoe - kit/plans
#39- November
18 foot catboat in Cape Cod and Islands
Sea Trials of: Bay Hen, Dovekie, Drascombe, Gloucester 19, J-22,
Montgomery 17, Old World 18, Slipper 17 (later became Seaward Fox)
Electric motors
1985
#40- January
Review - Frances 26 - mono - sail - cruise
Review - Bolger Catboat 12' - mono - sail - kit/plans
Review - Lightning 19' - mono - sail - racer
Article - Lateen Rigs
Article - Cruising in a 15' Gypsy - Part 1 - mono - sail - row -
kit/plans
Small Review - Illusion 12' - mono - sail
Small Review - Sneakbox 12' - mono - sail - kit/plans
#41- March
Review - West Wight Potter 15' - mono - sail - cruise - by Larry
Brown
Article - Cruising in a 15' Gypsy - Part 2
Article - Outboards - various types looked at.
Article - Junk Rigs
Small Review - Etap 20 - mono - sail - cruise
#42- May
Review - Pears 24 - mono - sail
Review - Bolger Live Aboard Sailboat 18' - mono - sail - cruise -
kit/plans
Review - T-Boat 18' - mono - sail - row - board boat
Review - Cormorant 12' - mono - sail - catboat
Article - Why Small Boats - by Larry Brown
Article - Gunter Rigs
Article - Cruising in a 15' Gypsy - Part 3
Small Review - Tom Thumb 24 - mono - sail - steel
Small Review - Magdalena Catboat 20' - mono - sail - cruise
#43- July
Review - Oysterman 23' - mono - sail - cruise
Review - Calico Jack 32' - mono - sail - cruise
Article - Lazy Jacks
Article - Elliot Power Paddle - outboard
Small Review - Harbor Cat 16' - mono - sail - catboat
Small Review - Typhoon Senior 22' - mono - sail - cruise
#44- September
Review - Sontana 20' - mono - sail - Garvey type - kit/plans
Article - Slab Reefing and Downhauls
Article - Wayfarer Cruises Labrador - Cruising in a 16' Wayfarer
Dingy
Article - Boat Tents for Small Boats
Short Review - Zuma 12' - mono - sail
Short Review - JJTaylor 26' - mono - sail - cruise
#45- November
Sea Trial Review - A comparison of: Spindrift 19, Montego 20, Mirage
5.5, Oday 192, Rhodes 19, X21, Sea Pearl 21 - all are mono - sail -
cruise
Small Review - Peep Hen 14' - mono - sail - cruise
Small Review - X2 Sailing Scow ?' - mono - sail - cruise
Small Review - Scrano 24' - mono - sail - cruise - wood
1986
#46- January
Review - C-Scow 20' - mono - sail - racer
Article - Man Overboard - rescue technical
Article - Cruising the Intercoastal Waterway
Article - Sculling - story about oars
Article - Sunfish 13 Converted for Cruising
Article - Tables for Small Boats - for eating on
#47- March
Review - Montgomery 15 - mono - sail - cruise
Review - Compac 16 - mono - sail - cruise
Article - Outboards and Trolling Motors
#48- May
Review - Chebacco 20' - mono - sail - cruise
Review - Bolger's Plywood Canoe Yawl ?' - mono - sail - kit/plans
Article - Selecting A Trailer
Article - Small Outboards
#49- July
Review - 3 Different Mini Scows - all 12' - mono - sail
Article - Outboards for Sailboats - 4 to 9.9 HP.
Article - Silicone Uses
#50- September
Review - Bolger's Seabird 23' - mono - sail - cruise - kit/plans
Review - Town Sharpie 16' 6" - mono - sail
Review - Bolger's Bobcat 12' 3" - mono - sail - catboat - kit/plans
Article - Modifying a Sovereign 17 for Extended Cruising
Article - Kits and Plans Directory
Article - Epoxies
Article - Tanaka 5.5 Outboard Motor
#51- November
Sea Trials of: Starwind 223, Tanzer 22, Merit 22, Sirius 22, San Juan
23
1987
#52- January
Review - Shearwater Sharpies 28' - mono - sail - cruise
Review - Star 22' - mono - sail - racer
Article - Canvas Boat Projects - covers for tillers, motors and
interior storage bags
#53- March
Review - Etap 23 - mono - sail - cruise
Article - "Micro" Boat - You build it from kit or plans
Article - Building a Sailing Garvey
Article - 75 Day Cruise Down the Mississippi River in a 13' Sneakbox
(not the 1800 one)
Article - Canvas Tents and Awnings for Boats
#54- May
Review - Sanibel 18 - mono - sail - cruise
Review - Compac 19/2 - mono - sail - cruise
Review - Naiad Catboat 18' 3" - mono - sail
Article - Modifying a 1974 Venture 23 for Cruising
#55- July
Review - Cornish Crabber 30' - mono - sail - cruise
Review - Chamberlain Dory Skiff 13' 5" - mono - sail - row
Article - Burl Ives Flicka 20
Article - Stepping and Tuning the Mast
Article - Deapthfinders - Old technology
Article - Folding Kayaks: Feathercraft, Folboat, Kelepper, Ecomarine
#56- September
Review - Sand Hen 24' - mono - sail - cruise
Review - Bolger's Plywood 12 1/2 - mono - sail - kit/plans
Article - Homemade Self Steering
Article - Camp Cruising West Grand Lake in Maine in a 15' Gypsy
Article - Building a Kit Sailboat
#57- November
Review - Scarano 22 - mono - sail - cruise
Review - Sea Sprite 23 - mono - sail - cruise
Review - Bridges Point 24 - mono - sail - cruise
Review - Quickstep 24 - mono - sail - cruise
Article - Kelepper Cruising Modifications - sailing kayak
Article - Dale Hollow Lake Tennessee
Article - Almost to Hell and Back - Adventures in a Potter 15 on Lake
Michigan in a storm.
1988
#58- January
Review - Building A Pilot Sloop 20' 8" - mono - sail - cruise -
kit/plans
Article - Shoal Draft Mecca - Chartering a Black Skimmer 25 in
Florida Bay
Article - Experts Choice 10 Best Boats - power and sail
Article - Sea Anchors and Drogues
Article - Outboard Motor Carburetors
#59- March
Review - Nimble 20 - mono - sail - cruise
Review - Bolger's Cat Schooner Dayboat 16' - mono - sail - kit/plans
Review - Tuckup Spider 14' 11" - mono - sail - wood
Article - Lightning Protection
Article - A Big Little Cruiser - modifications to a Potter 15
Article - Carolina Cruising - Down Pamlico Sound in a 17' Harpoon
Article - Which Outboard is for You - selection guide 0.85 to 300 HP.
Article - Mounting Outboards on Sailboats
Article - La Costa Island - Florida's west coast island NOAA chart #
11427
Article - Hatch Boards and Hatch Covers

From:
http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/articles/index.cgi/noframes/read/1
18 within:http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/articles/index.cgi

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2)

Lowest Cost Knotmeter/Depth Sounder Combo
Rod Brandon, Ensenada 20, Georgian Bay ON, Canada <Send E-Mail> --
10/14/99 9:42p.m.

If your boat doesn't sport a nifty electronic knotmeter, or the dang
thing packed it in, you can use your GPS speed reading if you average
the results over a few minutes for a reasonably accurate SOG (speed
over ground).
If you don't have a GPS, or the dang thing packed it in, or you need
velocity through water (to account for current effects on SOG),
here's a little trick I picked up from "The Complete Sailor".
1. Tie a 51 foot 1/4 nylon braid line to a tennis ball and cleat the
loose end off at the stern.
2.Toss the ball overboard (ahead of the stern cleat).
3. Time how long it takes the 50 ft cord (1 foot for cleat tie off
and angle compensation) to become taut.
30 sec = 1 knot/1.2 mph/1.8 kmph
15 sec = 2 knots/2.3 mph/3.7 kmph
10 sec = 3 knots/3.5 mph/5.5 kmph
7.5 sec = 4 knots/4.6 mph/7.4 kmph
6 sec = 5 knots/5.8 mph/9.2 kmph
5 sec = 6 knots/6.9 mph/11.0 kmph
4.25 sec = 7 knots/8.1 mph/12.9 kmph
3.75 sec = 8 knots/9.2 mph/ 14.7 kmph
Now here's where I can start taking some credit for this wonderfully
simple yet highly accurate (especially at slower speeds where most
other devices suffer) idea.
We printed the speed/time chart (above) and put it inside the clear
tennis ball container (facing out) so it was always handy, and have
tied a lead to the cord bitter end for a manual 50' sounder.
We always take two speed measurements, and use it if they're
identical. (The first one being slower could be due to a kink in the
line paying out). If the first reading is slower than the second we
make a third, and if the latter two are identical we use it.
The lead, line and tennis ball all stow away in the container.
So there you have it, the most reliable (no batteries or
vibration/corrosion sensitive electronics) anti-theft/vandal
resistant (when stowed) depthsounder/knotmeter combo available, at
the lowest possible cost.
http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/articles/index.cgi/noframes/read/2
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Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, GBroadlick@... wrote:
>
> I use to live in New Jersey and boated out of beatons boat yard in
manaloken

Couldn't find manaloken, but nice wooden boats at 72 Beaton Road
Brick NJ US:

http://www.sjogin.com/?page_id=12
http://www.geocities.com/beatonboats/TheBeatonFamindex.html

I couldn't see any garveys there. Do you know of any good garvey
links?

------------------

I found the Gidge Gandy's sailing garvey from the Cheap Pages

http://www.friend.ly.net/users/dadadata/short/gandy.html

over at DN Goodchilds. It's called the "Sandspur", and goes for $3.50
in their sailboat section in the 10' to 15' daysailers divide.
Probably everything in the 2 page booklet is on Craig's page though.
Also, terrific, I found a 14' one there by Chapelle called "Mule",
and with a sharpie sprit sail too! It's in the small craft section
utility boat divide.http://dngoodchild.com/front_pg_7-06.htm

Why DN Goodchild? Well, everyone that's tried them say good things
about the sailing quality of square ended double enders, and the
rowing if they're narrow bottomed. Chapelle is very positive.
Bolger's real square boats I know of are largish... there's only one
really, the AS19, and I'd like to try something smaller, cheaper, and
maybe more crude before a bigger one if I could. Jim Michalak has
some smallish Bolger inspired square ended designs. They seem largely
untried, but the 100+% 'P&H' charge, usually about $25 at Duckworks,
is a deal breaker for study plans. International P&H from DN
Goodchild is but $6.50!

A cheap small garvey might also make make a good stable platform for
trying out lots of different rigs and foils... want to test a
tacking "dipping" lug idea... have thought of a stretched Brick, but
not so sure it's the best...

Graeme
I use to live in New Jersey and boated out of beatons boat yard in manaloken


In a message dated 7/14/2008 12:03:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
graeme19121984@...writes:




_http://www.friend.http://www.frhttp://wwhttp://www.fhttp_
(http://www.friend.ly.net/users/dadadata/short/gandy.html)
Any of these built?

I love the look of the bow on the few garvey pics I've seen...

Graeme

...thinking of the merits of double-endedness...

--- In_bolger@..._ (mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com) , c
o'donnell <dadadata@..d> wrote:
>
>
> Much of my small boat and canoeing stuff on the Cheap Pages seems
to
> have vanished from www.friend.ly. have vanished f
>
> I've figured out the problem.
>
>
> The URL is _http://www.friend.http://www.frhttp://w_
(http://www.friend.ly.net/users/dadadata)and
then /whatever
>
>
> -- the "~dadadata" scheme no longer works. Nor does any link
> beginning "www2.friend. beginni
>
>
> So if you are looking for the e-book "The Canoe Aurora" and try:
>
> _http://www.friend.http://www.frienhttp://wwhttp://www.frienhttp_
(http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/CC_Eric/aurora_contents.html)
>
> it won't work.
>
> Use
_http://www.friend.http://www.frhttp://wwhttp://www.friehttp://wwhttp_
(http://www.friend.ly.net/users/dadadata/CC_Eric/aurora_contents.html)
>
> It's probably time to migrate the pages to my new server, but for
> now, please note that little qurik. (Because the pages were
composed
> over a number of years both kinds of URL are included in many
places
> on the Web, including my Cheap Pages themselves. Hence the
apparently
> random problems.)
>
>
> === craig o'donnell
> dadadata@...
> Box 232 Betterton Md 21610
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







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http://www.friend.ly.net/users/dadadata/short/gandy.html
Any of these built?

I love the look of the bow on the few garvey pics I've seen...

Graeme

...thinking of the merits of double-endedness...

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, c o'donnell <dadadata@...> wrote:
>
>
> Much of my small boat and canoeing stuff on the Cheap Pages seems
to
> have vanished from www.friend.ly.net, but not really.
>
> I've figured out the problem.
>
>
> The URL ishttp://www.friend.ly.net/users/dadadataand
then /whatever
>
>
> -- the "~dadadata" scheme no longer works. Nor does any link
> beginning "www2.friend.ly.net/"
>
>
> So if you are looking for the e-book "The Canoe Aurora" and try:
>
>http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/CC_Eric/aurora_contents.html
>
> it won't work.
>
> Use
http://www.friend.ly.net/users/dadadata/CC_Eric/aurora_contents.html
>
> It's probably time to migrate the pages to my new server, but for
> now, please note that little qurik. (Because the pages were
composed
> over a number of years both kinds of URL are included in many
places
> on the Web, including my Cheap Pages themselves. Hence the
apparently
> random problems.)
>
>
> === craig o'donnell
> dadadata@...
> Box 232 Betterton Md 21610
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Much of my small boat and canoeing stuff on the Cheap Pages seems to
have vanished from www.friend.ly.net, but not really.

I've figured out the problem.


The URL ishttp://www.friend.ly.net/users/dadadataand then /whatever


-- the "~dadadata" scheme no longer works. Nor does any link
beginning "www2.friend.ly.net/"


So if you are looking for the e-book "The Canoe Aurora" and try:

http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/CC_Eric/aurora_contents.html

it won't work.

Usehttp://www.friend.ly.net/users/dadadata/CC_Eric/aurora_contents.html

It's probably time to migrate the pages to my new server, but for
now, please note that little qurik. (Because the pages were composed
over a number of years both kinds of URL are included in many places
on the Web, including my Cheap Pages themselves. Hence the apparently
random problems.)


=== craig o'donnell
dadadata@...
Box 232 Betterton Md 21610





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]