Re: Fluke Fishing sail?
I now remember what has been bothering me about this strand. I have
used my Diablo for fluke fishing on a couple of occassions off the
flats of Monomoy (off Chatham, MA). We always use a natural drift
with a fluke rig drifting slowly to windward since the Diablo drifts
diagonally. If rigged with a fresh chub, a shiny spoon (Mepps
#2 spinner works well)and a little weight to keep it down, you should
catch fluke even without a sail. The problem then becomes getting
home before your catch rots in the noonday sun ( never mind, we are
talking persistant fog here).
So, my opinion is to get the biggest sail you can get and set it
up in a real hurry. If you fish to windward you can boogie back home
to leeward and enjoy a cold one faster! A Laser rig would work!
Happy Fishing,
David Jost
used my Diablo for fluke fishing on a couple of occassions off the
flats of Monomoy (off Chatham, MA). We always use a natural drift
with a fluke rig drifting slowly to windward since the Diablo drifts
diagonally. If rigged with a fresh chub, a shiny spoon (Mepps
#2 spinner works well)and a little weight to keep it down, you should
catch fluke even without a sail. The problem then becomes getting
home before your catch rots in the noonday sun ( never mind, we are
talking persistant fog here).
So, my opinion is to get the biggest sail you can get and set it
up in a real hurry. If you fish to windward you can boogie back home
to leeward and enjoy a cold one faster! A Laser rig would work!
Happy Fishing,
David Jost
David-
Yes, you can brail a spritsail up while seated at the helm. After fitting
one to my boat I'm amazed anyone would use a spritsail without one! If you
modify the mast thwart with a gate you can probably raise and lower the
mast without standing too. Dynamite Payson sells a spritsail for the
Cartopper that should work in a Teal, if you aren't going to make your own.
It sounds like you may want to use a pretty small sail, with consequently
smaller and lighter spars, striving for handiness rather than performance.
Yes, you can brail a spritsail up while seated at the helm. After fitting
one to my boat I'm amazed anyone would use a spritsail without one! If you
modify the mast thwart with a gate you can probably raise and lower the
mast without standing too. Dynamite Payson sells a spritsail for the
Cartopper that should work in a Teal, if you aren't going to make your own.
It sounds like you may want to use a pretty small sail, with consequently
smaller and lighter spars, striving for handiness rather than performance.
On Mon, 3 Jul 2000 11:23:34 -0400, David wrote:
> Can brailing be accomplished while remaining seated or kneeling in
> the boat? I have to stand (in the very center of the teal,) to boat
> larger fish and I don't like it too much when there's any wind chop
> at all.....
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--- Inbolger@egroups.com, StepHydro@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 00-07-03 09:59:33 EDT, you write:
>
> << What I need is a sail that is easy to take down and wrap up so I
can
> drift fsnip
>
> Might try a Sunfish-type lateen with a boom and yard pivoted at the
forward
> apex. snip
One of Bolger books has a boat especially made for similar use that
used a rig like that. Is it in Small Boats or in BwaOM?
I think it was this thread where you were not finding 100SBR. New
edition is 103SBR. I think Payson carries it, and I bet others do.
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
available directly from PB&F.
Carter
>anywhere
> I haven't been able to find a copy of 100 SBR at Strands or
> online. Anyone got a source?I remember seeing on this list that the new, improved 103 SBR is
>
>
available directly from PB&F.
Carter
In a message dated 00-07-03 09:59:33 EDT, you write:
<< What I need is a sail that is easy to take down and wrap up so I can
drift for fluke, and then is easily re-deployed when I want to reset
my drift or head back to the beach with my load of fish. Handiness is
more important than performance. >>
Might try a Sunfish-type lateen with a boom and yard pivoted at the forward
apex. With the downhaul left fast to the bottom of the boat (not to the mast,
so it will stay in the boat in a spill), you can just let off the halyard,
scissor the spars, and lay it in the boat or "brail" it to the mast with a
couple turns of the halyard.
I have a friend who fishes just off the TX gulf coast beaches with this rig
and he likes it a lot.
Cheers/Step
<< What I need is a sail that is easy to take down and wrap up so I can
drift for fluke, and then is easily re-deployed when I want to reset
my drift or head back to the beach with my load of fish. Handiness is
more important than performance. >>
Might try a Sunfish-type lateen with a boom and yard pivoted at the forward
apex. With the downhaul left fast to the bottom of the boat (not to the mast,
so it will stay in the boat in a spill), you can just let off the halyard,
scissor the spars, and lay it in the boat or "brail" it to the mast with a
couple turns of the halyard.
I have a friend who fishes just off the TX gulf coast beaches with this rig
and he likes it a lot.
Cheers/Step
Can brailing be accomplished while remaining seated or kneeling in
the boat? I have to stand (in the very center of the teal,) to boat
larger fish and I don't like it too much when there's any wind chop
at all.
I haven't been able to find a copy of 100 SBR at Strands or anywhere
online. Anyone got a source?
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the boat? I have to stand (in the very center of the teal,) to boat
larger fish and I don't like it too much when there's any wind chop
at all.
I haven't been able to find a copy of 100 SBR at Strands or anywhere
online. Anyone got a source?
>Consider a spritsail: this sail can be brailed or gathered up against theCRUMBLING EMPIRE PRODUCTIONS
>mast with lines specifically for this purpose. According to Bolger in "100
>Small Boat Rigs" on page 104, A sail can be furled "with ease and speed
>this way". There is also a diagram on Page 105 showing the arrangement of
>the sail and its lines.
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>You could use a "sharpie sprit" (sprit boom) rig in a rotating socket, andYou'd think this would work, but I can tell you from experience (I've
>do like the old time sharpie fishermen did and let the thing weathervane.
got a round sailboard mast in a round hole,) that even a sail let
completely go will pull you down wind at a surprising speed. Also,
I've noticed that in a boat as small as a teal, that sail and boom
flopping around can cause some unexpected and unwelcome shifts of
weight at the most unwelcome times.
-D
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David:
Consider a spritsail: this sail can be brailed or gathered up against the
mast with lines specifically for this purpose. According to Bolger in "100
Small Boat Rigs" on page 104, A sail can be furled "with ease and speed
this way". There is also a diagram on Page 105 showing the arrangement of
the sail and its lines. The spritsail has some other things going for it
too. It is an easy sail to make, the spars are short, and there is no boom
to hit you in the head when you are landing that trophy fish.
Chuck
Consider a spritsail: this sail can be brailed or gathered up against the
mast with lines specifically for this purpose. According to Bolger in "100
Small Boat Rigs" on page 104, A sail can be furled "with ease and speed
this way". There is also a diagram on Page 105 showing the arrangement of
the sail and its lines. The spritsail has some other things going for it
too. It is an easy sail to make, the spars are short, and there is no boom
to hit you in the head when you are landing that trophy fish.
Chuck
> FBBB --
>
> My sail type experience is limited to sleeve rigs, (sabots, lasers,
> bastard teal rig,) and factory track and halyard rigs.
>
> Neither one of these is suitable to my next endeavor.
>
> The fluke fishing is all time just out from the beach I sail off of.
> What I need is a sail that is easy to take down and wrap up so I can
> drift for fluke, and then is easily re-deployed when I want to reset
> my drift or head back to the beach with my load of fish. Handiness is
> more important than performance.
>
> Any opinions out there?
>
> YIBB,
>
> David
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You could use a "sharpie sprit" (sprit boom) rig in a rotating socket, and
do like the old time sharpie fishermen did and let the thing weathervane.
Richard Spelling,http://www.spellingbusiness.com/boats
From the muddy waters of Oklahoma
do like the old time sharpie fishermen did and let the thing weathervane.
Richard Spelling,http://www.spellingbusiness.com/boats
From the muddy waters of Oklahoma
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ryan" <david@...>
To: <bolger@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 8:58 AM
Subject: [bolger] Fluke Fishing sail?
> FBBB --
>
> My sail type experience is limited to sleeve rigs, (sabots, lasers,
> bastard teal rig,) and factory track and halyard rigs.
>
> Neither one of these is suitable to my next endeavor.
>
> The fluke fishing is all time just out from the beach I sail off of.
> What I need is a sail that is easy to take down and wrap up so I can
> drift for fluke, and then is easily re-deployed when I want to reset
> my drift or head back to the beach with my load of fish. Handiness is
> more important than performance.
>
> Any opinions out there?
>
> YIBB,
>
> David
>
> CRUMBLING EMPIRE PRODUCTIONS
> 134 W.26th St. 12th Floor
> New York, NY 10001
> (212) 247-0296
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Instant Approval!
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>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing
> - stay on topic
> - use punctuation
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
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