Re: Payson sails - anyone tried them?
Just another endorsement of all things Payson. I purchased a sail for
my Gypsy and sails for my Chebacco from Mr. Payson. They were made by
Bohndel as mentioned above and are good quality and a good value as is
everything else I have purchased from Dynamite.
You can't go wrong.
Paul
my Gypsy and sails for my Chebacco from Mr. Payson. They were made by
Bohndel as mentioned above and are good quality and a good value as is
everything else I have purchased from Dynamite.
You can't go wrong.
Paul
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "nsimms" <nsimms@...> wrote:
>
> Am considering a leg-o-mutton sail from Dynamite for my newly
> constructed Nymph. Has anybody purchased a sail from him? How's the
> quality? As I understand it, he has a local sailmaker make them, so
> I'm assuming they're not Chinese made like everything else these days...
>
> I'd make one from a Sailrite kit but I'm not sure my sewing machine is
> up to the task.
>
> Neil S.
>
As does Stu Hopkins of Dabbler.
On Jul 23, 2008, at 11:06 PM, Susan Davis wrote:
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "efemiket" <efemike@...> wrote:
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I recall reading that Payson uses Bohndell Sails and Rigging,
> >
> > I have sails from Payson for my Single Handed Schooner. I have not
> > actually used them yet, but they look well made.
>
> I have the same sails for mine. They are from Bohndell, and they're
> quite nice. This is less important for a Nymph, but Bohndell seems to
> actually understand how to cut quadrilateral sails properly.
>
> -- Sue --
> (regrettably, my schooner isn't on the water yet this season -- need
> to get that done soon)
>
> --
> Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
>
>
>
=== craig o'donnell
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Box 232 Betterton Md 21610
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "efemiket" <efemike@...> wrote:
quite nice. This is less important for a Nymph, but Bohndell seems to
actually understand how to cut quadrilateral sails properly.
-- Sue --
(regrettably, my schooner isn't on the water yet this season -- need
to get that done soon)
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@> wrote:I have the same sails for mine. They are from Bohndell, and they're
> >
> > I recall reading that Payson uses Bohndell Sails and Rigging,
>
> I have sails from Payson for my Single Handed Schooner. I have not
> actually used them yet, but they look well made.
quite nice. This is less important for a Nymph, but Bohndell seems to
actually understand how to cut quadrilateral sails properly.
-- Sue --
(regrettably, my schooner isn't on the water yet this season -- need
to get that done soon)
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
actually used them yet, but they look well made.
Mike
>days...
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:31 AM, nsimms <nsimms@...> wrote:
> > Am considering a leg-o-mutton sail from Dynamite for my newly
> > constructed Nymph. Has anybody purchased a sail from him? How's the
> > quality? As I understand it, he has a local sailmaker make them, so
> > I'm assuming they're not Chinese made like everything else these
>I have sails from Payson for my Single Handed Schooner. I have not
> I recall reading that Payson uses Bohndell Sails and Rigging, (located
> a few miles up the road in Rockport). I have no first hand opinion,
> but based on what I have read they seem to have an excellent
> reputation.
>
actually used them yet, but they look well made.
Mike
Dynomite Payson is a great guy, if you ever got to meet him it would be
a day you'd never forget. He and his lovely wife live in a modest New
England home w/boatshop right next door. Spending some time talking in
his shop makes you see he does this not for money but the deep love of
boats. As the prototype builder for Phil Bolger he helped develop many
of the early small boat plans so he knows what they need for sails. When
I met him 4 years ago he was spending most his time building scaled
models of larger Bolger designs to help prospective builders decide on
the right boat for them. It was my honor to meet the man and his wife.
Lovely people.
Wampom.. the native american word for money is usually thought of as
the beads traded to the natives for Manhattan Island.....in truth it
refers to the concept that you spend a piece of your life creating a
thing of utility or beauty (very often both) and in trading it to
another you share a piece of your life with them. So while it was a
means of commerce it also had deep social consciousness to it
nsimms wrote:
a day you'd never forget. He and his lovely wife live in a modest New
England home w/boatshop right next door. Spending some time talking in
his shop makes you see he does this not for money but the deep love of
boats. As the prototype builder for Phil Bolger he helped develop many
of the early small boat plans so he knows what they need for sails. When
I met him 4 years ago he was spending most his time building scaled
models of larger Bolger designs to help prospective builders decide on
the right boat for them. It was my honor to meet the man and his wife.
Lovely people.
Wampom.. the native american word for money is usually thought of as
the beads traded to the natives for Manhattan Island.....in truth it
refers to the concept that you spend a piece of your life creating a
thing of utility or beauty (very often both) and in trading it to
another you share a piece of your life with them. So while it was a
means of commerce it also had deep social consciousness to it
nsimms wrote:
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> Thanks for the replies. The original Nymph sail is 40 sg ft. Rubens
> Nymph (1 ft wider) takes the 59 sq ft sail. I built mine in between
> (4' beam) and will rig it using the smaller sail as it will be a
> trainer for the kids and low-stress sailing platform for the wife. I
> also added flotation chambers fore and aft, and left out the middle
> frame and longitudinal seat, to basically make it a big open sailing
> bathtub between frames 1 and 3. Rowing will be from atop a movable
> seat box. So it's still a Bolger hull, but pretty heavily modified inside.
>
> I think I'll go with the Payson sail, and mail Dynamite a check.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Neil S.
>
>
Thanks for the replies. The original Nymph sail is 40 sg ft. Rubens
Nymph (1 ft wider) takes the 59 sq ft sail. I built mine in between
(4' beam) and will rig it using the smaller sail as it will be a
trainer for the kids and low-stress sailing platform for the wife. I
also added flotation chambers fore and aft, and left out the middle
frame and longitudinal seat, to basically make it a big open sailing
bathtub between frames 1 and 3. Rowing will be from atop a movable
seat box. So it's still a Bolger hull, but pretty heavily modified inside.
I think I'll go with the Payson sail, and mail Dynamite a check.
Cheers,
Neil S.
Nymph (1 ft wider) takes the 59 sq ft sail. I built mine in between
(4' beam) and will rig it using the smaller sail as it will be a
trainer for the kids and low-stress sailing platform for the wife. I
also added flotation chambers fore and aft, and left out the middle
frame and longitudinal seat, to basically make it a big open sailing
bathtub between frames 1 and 3. Rowing will be from atop a movable
seat box. So it's still a Bolger hull, but pretty heavily modified inside.
I think I'll go with the Payson sail, and mail Dynamite a check.
Cheers,
Neil S.
I would at least consider Duckworks as another option.
Unfortunately it seems they have gained such a great
reputation for making quality sails for small boats that
they currently have a three month waiting list.
Sincerely,
Ken Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
www.bagacayboatworks.com
Unfortunately it seems they have gained such a great
reputation for making quality sails for small boats that
they currently have a three month waiting list.
Sincerely,
Ken Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
www.bagacayboatworks.com
> As others have said, the sails come from Bohndell. Aside
> from being very nice sails, they were quite the bargain
> as well. I wouldn't go anywhere else for a 59 square foot
> leg 'o mutton.
>
> nsimms wrote:
> > Am considering a leg-o-mutton sail from Dynamite for my
> > newly constructed Nymph. Has anybody purchased a sail
> > from him? How's the quality? As I understand it, he has
> > a local sailmaker make them, so I'm assuming they're
> > not Chinese made like everything else these days...
> >
> > I'd make one from a Sailrite kit but I'm not sure my
> > sewing machine is up to the task.
> >
> > Neil S.
As others have said, the sails come from Bohndell. Aside from being very
nice sails, they were quite the bargain as well. I wouldn't go anywhere
else for a 59 square foot leg 'o mutton.
nsimms wrote:
nice sails, they were quite the bargain as well. I wouldn't go anywhere
else for a 59 square foot leg 'o mutton.
nsimms wrote:
> Am considering a leg-o-mutton sail from Dynamite for my newly
> constructed Nymph. Has anybody purchased a sail from him? How's the
> quality? As I understand it, he has a local sailmaker make them, so
> I'm assuming they're not Chinese made like everything else these days...
>
> I'd make one from a Sailrite kit but I'm not sure my sewing machine is
> up to the task.
>
> Neil S.
>
>
>
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:31 AM, nsimms <nsimms@...> wrote:
a few miles up the road in Rockport). I have no first hand opinion,
but based on what I have read they seem to have an excellent
reputation.
> Am considering a leg-o-mutton sail from Dynamite for my newlyI recall reading that Payson uses Bohndell Sails and Rigging, (located
> constructed Nymph. Has anybody purchased a sail from him? How's the
> quality? As I understand it, he has a local sailmaker make them, so
> I'm assuming they're not Chinese made like everything else these days...
a few miles up the road in Rockport). I have no first hand opinion,
but based on what I have read they seem to have an excellent
reputation.
I can't speak for Payson's sails, but if they are made by Bohndell, then
they're good!
I hade the Chebacco sails made there and in comparison to all other
national shops (Hood, North etc) that I've used, as well as small
independant sailmakers they are head and shoulders above the rest. The
ability to cut something in a traditional geometry is not necessarily a
core competancy of the guys used to making high aspect ratio go fast rigs.
It seems blasphemous to most guys to cut a sail with any camber to speak
of, or a flat mizzen.
I have to say that the folks at Bohndell know their business, and the
quality was excellent.
they're good!
I hade the Chebacco sails made there and in comparison to all other
national shops (Hood, North etc) that I've used, as well as small
independant sailmakers they are head and shoulders above the rest. The
ability to cut something in a traditional geometry is not necessarily a
core competancy of the guys used to making high aspect ratio go fast rigs.
It seems blasphemous to most guys to cut a sail with any camber to speak
of, or a flat mizzen.
I have to say that the folks at Bohndell know their business, and the
quality was excellent.
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:31 AM, nsimms <nsimms@...> wrote:
>> Am considering a leg-o-mutton sail from Dynamite for my newly
>> constructed Nymph. Has anybody purchased a sail from him? How's the
>> quality? As I understand it, he has a local sailmaker make them, so
>> I'm assuming they're not Chinese made like everything else these days...
>
> I recall reading that Payson uses Bohndell Sails and Rigging, (located
> a few miles up the road in Rockport). I have no first hand opinion,
> but based on what I have read they seem to have an excellent
> reputation.
>
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Am considering a leg-o-mutton sail from Dynamite for my newly
constructed Nymph. Has anybody purchased a sail from him? How's the
quality? As I understand it, he has a local sailmaker make them, so
I'm assuming they're not Chinese made like everything else these days...
I'd make one from a Sailrite kit but I'm not sure my sewing machine is
up to the task.
Neil S.
constructed Nymph. Has anybody purchased a sail from him? How's the
quality? As I understand it, he has a local sailmaker make them, so
I'm assuming they're not Chinese made like everything else these days...
I'd make one from a Sailrite kit but I'm not sure my sewing machine is
up to the task.
Neil S.