Re: [bolger] Romp isometric
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:27 AM, malcolmf <malcolmf@...> wrote:
job of calculating expanded panels. As to working from the table of
offsets, conventionally, you would loft the table of offsets to
establish the frames and the lines. This lofting smooths out the
errors in the table of offsets (Then you do the spiling to figure the
expanded shapes of the strakes.) Freeship does the smoothing of
errors and if you know the sheerline and keel shape and a midship
section (or two or three) you do not need to worry about all the
offsets. Freeship also expands the shapes of the strakes.
> Bruce,Romp is a strip planked boat. Regardless, yes Freeship does a good
> Can Freeship 2.6 be used to develop the actual shape of the panels for
> stitch & Glue construction, starting from the offsets?
> Calm Seas & A Prosperous Voyage
> Malcolm
job of calculating expanded panels. As to working from the table of
offsets, conventionally, you would loft the table of offsets to
establish the frames and the lines. This lofting smooths out the
errors in the table of offsets (Then you do the spiling to figure the
expanded shapes of the strakes.) Freeship does the smoothing of
errors and if you know the sheerline and keel shape and a midship
section (or two or three) you do not need to worry about all the
offsets. Freeship also expands the shapes of the strakes.
And where can I obtain the building plans for this Romp?
Thanks
jim
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Thanks
jim
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You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take a boat to the sea you don't love,
she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds.
(And, behold, there arose a great tempest in the sea, in-so-much that the ship was covered with the waves)
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Bruce,
Can Freeship 2.6 be used to develop the actual shape of the panels for
stitch & Glue construction, starting from the offsets?
Calm Seas & A Prosperous Voyage
Malcolm
Bruce Hallman wrote:
Can Freeship 2.6 be used to develop the actual shape of the panels for
stitch & Glue construction, starting from the offsets?
Calm Seas & A Prosperous Voyage
Malcolm
Bruce Hallman wrote:
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> Freeship 2.6
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>http://www.softpedia.com/get/Science-CAD/Freeship.shtml
> <http://www.softpedia.com/get/Science-CAD/Freeship.shtml>
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> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:16 AM, eric light <frabjusday@...
> <mailto:frabjusday%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Bruce, what is a good program to open an FBM file in?
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Freeship is now the free version of Delftship:
http://www.delftship.net/delftship/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31&Itemid=4
Harry James wrote:
http://www.delftship.net/delftship/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31&Itemid=4
Harry James wrote:
> Its Freeship, the cad ship designing program that Bruce is a master of[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> and the source of all those wonderful Isometrics he lays out for us.
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Freeship 2.6
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Science-CAD/Freeship.shtml
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Science-CAD/Freeship.shtml
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:16 AM, eric light <frabjusday@...> wrote:
> Bruce, what is a good program to open an FBM file in?
Its Freeship, the cad ship designing program that Bruce is a master of
and the source of all those wonderful Isometrics he lays out for us.
You can Google, the designer has taken it private but there are still
legitimate free versions out therre, here is one
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Science-CAD/Freeship.shtml
HJ
eric light wrote:
and the source of all those wonderful Isometrics he lays out for us.
You can Google, the designer has taken it private but there are still
legitimate free versions out therre, here is one
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Science-CAD/Freeship.shtml
HJ
eric light wrote:
> Bruce, what is a good program to open an FBM file in? I see from my Google[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> search that it's a "fuzzy bitmap" image, but I can't seem to find anything
> to open it with. I use a Mac, and usually Graphic Converter will open
> unusual image files, but I've had no luck with this one.
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
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> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
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>> Here are some iso's
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>>http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2702417976/
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>>http://hallman.org/bolger/romp/RompLines.gif
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>> And a fbm
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>>http://hallman.org/bolger/romp/Romp.fbm
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Bruce, what is a good program to open an FBM file in? I see from my Google
search that it's a "fuzzy bitmap" image, but I can't seem to find anything
to open it with. I use a Mac, and usually Graphic Converter will open
unusual image files, but I've had no luck with this one.
Thanks,
Eric
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search that it's a "fuzzy bitmap" image, but I can't seem to find anything
to open it with. I use a Mac, and usually Graphic Converter will open
unusual image files, but I've had no luck with this one.
Thanks,
Eric
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On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
> Here are some iso's
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>http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2702417976/
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>http://hallman.org/bolger/romp/RompLines.gif
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> And a fbm
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>http://hallman.org/bolger/romp/Romp.fbm
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Here are some iso's
http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2702417976/
http://hallman.org/bolger/romp/RompLines.gif
And a fbm
http://hallman.org/bolger/romp/Romp.fbm
http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2702417976/
http://hallman.org/bolger/romp/RompLines.gif
And a fbm
http://hallman.org/bolger/romp/Romp.fbm
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Gentry" <alias1719@...> wrote:
http://www.thecoastalpassage.com.au/index.html
on the back issues page
http://www.thecoastalpassage.com.au/back_issues.htmlclick on the issue
at the bottom right for the article in pdf on Beluga Too. Page 4.
Graeme
> Another "Romp" - cool! Please, if you could, do you have any picturesThere's a story at
> of "Beluga" that you could post? I think we'd all appreciate seeing
> them!
> Thanks!
> Dave
>
http://www.thecoastalpassage.com.au/index.html
on the back issues page
http://www.thecoastalpassage.com.au/back_issues.htmlclick on the issue
at the bottom right for the article in pdf on Beluga Too. Page 4.
Graeme
> Another "Romp" - cool!Interestingly, Hugo mentions of lightning strike 'fried' engine
electronics. And PCB's writeup mentions that there was no motor in
any known Romps built. (Probably a matter of timing, or missed
communication.) I can imagine Romp going very far over on her side,
and popping right back up. Lots of reserved buoyancy, high deck on
shallow draft, like with St. Valery, Resolution and even with the
Prince William Sound Yawl.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Hugo Tyson <hhetyson@...> wrote:
boat to this design.( "Beluga")
Hi Hugo
Another "Romp" - cool! Please, if you could, do you have any pictures
of "Beluga" that you could post? I think we'd all appreciate seeing
them!
Thanks!
Dave
>experience as my father built the only other ( as far as I know of )
> Yes, the "Romp" design is very good..and I speak from personal
boat to this design.( "Beluga")
Hi Hugo
Another "Romp" - cool! Please, if you could, do you have any pictures
of "Beluga" that you could post? I think we'd all appreciate seeing
them!
Thanks!
Dave
Yes, the "Romp" design is very good..and I speak from personal experience as my father built the only other ( as far as I know of ) boat to this design.( "Beluga")
She sailed very well and actually quite fast for a 30' wl boat. Before Dad sold her he clocked her going at about 12.5 knots through the breaking surf on a very stormy day at the Port Sorell Bar (Sand Bar,....for all you topers!!) this was with the prospective buyers onboard, they were quite inpressed. Dad said it was one of the most exciting moments holding onto the long,curved tiller, guiding his boat through the surging waves that afternoon...surfing down the waves with the long straight keel holding them true!
...Apart from that because she was..(is) fairliy narrow beamed and hard bilged you have to get to know her sailing qualities.........Tender , well not at first but until she heels over a bit it can be a bit alarming at first, well it scared most of the family..but with a Capt.Bligh onboard what can you do!!? I was about to emmulate Jesus and walk on water to get back to dry land!
That passed, once over until her buoancy picked up(really only seconds!) ,she was a fine sailer;fast with and economy of sail,..and safe too!.
My father sold "Beluga"...now named "Beluga Too" and she has cruised the Pacific, weathered out a cyclone or two and Impressed many People who have seen her, and had some dramas like a lightning strike that fused the engines electronics and..well survived - ...
I belive that she now resides in North Queensland , Australia with a very happy owner!
In away ....Dad shouldn't have sold her....!
P.S ...Our Bolger 28' "Bunny R" Lobster Boat is still being built and should touch the water within a few months!...we hope!!!!!
Hugo Tyson,
Tasmania, AustraliaOn Sun, 27/7/08, Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
From: Bruce Hallman <bruce@...>
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Romp isometric
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 27 July, 2008, 12:45 AM
Look at the streamline water flowlines of the Romp hullshape,
http://flickr. com/photos/ hallman/27016035 23
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She sailed very well and actually quite fast for a 30' wl boat. Before Dad sold her he clocked her going at about 12.5 knots through the breaking surf on a very stormy day at the Port Sorell Bar (Sand Bar,....for all you topers!!) this was with the prospective buyers onboard, they were quite inpressed. Dad said it was one of the most exciting moments holding onto the long,curved tiller, guiding his boat through the surging waves that afternoon...surfing down the waves with the long straight keel holding them true!
...Apart from that because she was..(is) fairliy narrow beamed and hard bilged you have to get to know her sailing qualities.........Tender , well not at first but until she heels over a bit it can be a bit alarming at first, well it scared most of the family..but with a Capt.Bligh onboard what can you do!!? I was about to emmulate Jesus and walk on water to get back to dry land!
That passed, once over until her buoancy picked up(really only seconds!) ,she was a fine sailer;fast with and economy of sail,..and safe too!.
My father sold "Beluga"...now named "Beluga Too" and she has cruised the Pacific, weathered out a cyclone or two and Impressed many People who have seen her, and had some dramas like a lightning strike that fused the engines electronics and..well survived - ...
I belive that she now resides in North Queensland , Australia with a very happy owner!
In away ....Dad shouldn't have sold her....!
P.S ...Our Bolger 28' "Bunny R" Lobster Boat is still being built and should touch the water within a few months!...we hope!!!!!
Hugo Tyson,
Tasmania, AustraliaOn Sun, 27/7/08, Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
From: Bruce Hallman <bruce@...>
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Romp isometric
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 27 July, 2008, 12:45 AM
Look at the streamline water flowlines of the Romp hullshape,
http://flickr. com/photos/ hallman/27016035 23
Find a better answer, faster with the new Yahoo!7 Search. www.yahoo7.com.au/search
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Look at the streamline water flowlines of the Romp hullshape,
http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2701603523
http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2701603523
The plans in "Different Boats" show an interior layout that Bolger
says is to the owner's design.
There's a transom berth port and stbd., running forward from a
partial bulkhead that sits level with the forward end of the
doghouse shown on Bruce's rendition. Fwd of the berths there's a
forepeak formed by a bulkhead with a door in it. There's Porta-Potti
shown there, with the mast step just fwd of it.
Aft of the berths there's a galley to stbd with a dresser, stove and
sink. To port there's a seat, a table and a seat, forming a dinette
for two people sitting fore and aft.
There's a sliding hatch up into the cockpit, and hatch in the deck
fwd of the mast.
Howard
says is to the owner's design.
There's a transom berth port and stbd., running forward from a
partial bulkhead that sits level with the forward end of the
doghouse shown on Bruce's rendition. Fwd of the berths there's a
forepeak formed by a bulkhead with a door in it. There's Porta-Potti
shown there, with the mast step just fwd of it.
Aft of the berths there's a galley to stbd with a dresser, stove and
sink. To port there's a seat, a table and a seat, forming a dinette
for two people sitting fore and aft.
There's a sliding hatch up into the cockpit, and hatch in the deck
fwd of the mast.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Stuart Crawford <stuartcnz@...> wrote:
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> Has any one ever seen how the interior was fitted out?
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> Stuart.
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> On 26/7/08 9:36 AM, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
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> > A 30 footer. Romp. come close to being the "perfect sailboat".
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> >http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2702417976/
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Has any one ever seen how the interior was fitted out?
Stuart.
Stuart.
On 26/7/08 9:36 AM, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
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> A 30 footer. Romp. come close to being the "perfect sailboat".
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>http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2702417976/
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A 30 footer. Romp. come close to being the "perfect sailboat".
http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2702417976/
http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2702417976/