Re: non-planing cruising boat for 4?
For 4? IMO Tennesee would be tight for 4, and Idaho is a picnic boat,
and even with a Birdwatcher slot in the top, just not suitable for 4.
Dakota could be built w' a comfortable layout for 4 if planned that
way from the start. Maybe a house like Dakota/Topaz could be scarfed
onto the light Tennesee hull.
I like the idea of a pair of 10hp motors with independent fuel tanks.
Reliability/redundancy, extreme economy (single motor at times), and
an edge in maneuverability. Bravo!
The other good advice is to take a big power cruiser, and gut it of
the big power, skegs, props, etc. Would never be as efficient as a
converted sailboat, or a displacement hull, but wouldn't be bad for a
single season.
Don
and even with a Birdwatcher slot in the top, just not suitable for 4.
Dakota could be built w' a comfortable layout for 4 if planned that
way from the start. Maybe a house like Dakota/Topaz could be scarfed
onto the light Tennesee hull.
I like the idea of a pair of 10hp motors with independent fuel tanks.
Reliability/redundancy, extreme economy (single motor at times), and
an edge in maneuverability. Bravo!
The other good advice is to take a big power cruiser, and gut it of
the big power, skegs, props, etc. Would never be as efficient as a
converted sailboat, or a displacement hull, but wouldn't be bad for a
single season.
Don
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bill shamblin" <bshamblin2002@...> wrote:
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> thanks, everyone. these are some good ideas.
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> bill
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thanks, everyone. these are some good ideas.
bill
bill
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
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> The Tennessee fills most of what you want here. It has been reported at
> 10mph on 10 hp. I love this picture of one overpowered with 15 hp
>
>http://www.boatdesign.com/jumps/dixtenn/tenn4.jpg
>
> For more
>
>http://www.boatdesign.com/jumps/dixtenn/Page.html
>
> HJ
>
> bill shamblin wrote:
> > a friend and i are thinking of a long circular cruise by powerboat
> > along icw as well as rivers/canals inland. im wondering if any
> > commercial boat company makes the sort of non-planing efficient
> > cruiser that pb would design instead of the monster engine planing gas
> > hogs i see everywhere???
> >
> > it seems pb said the main points were keeping both ends out of the
> > water and not letting her be too wide? im thinking a light 30'x6'
> > might make 5 knots with dual 10 hp completely redundant system
outboards?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > bill in nc
> >
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Bill
Hey Bill.I am looking at building a boat along the same lines.I am on
the NC/SC state line.I will probably be in some of the same ICW
areas.I'm looking to day trip with 6 and a weekender with 2 without
having to touch land for supplies.I am looking at some other non
Bolger designs but I'll leave that out seeing how this is a Bolger
based site.I prefer to stick with a Bolger design or a spin off for
ease of building.Good luck.
Hey Bill.I am looking at building a boat along the same lines.I am on
the NC/SC state line.I will probably be in some of the same ICW
areas.I'm looking to day trip with 6 and a weekender with 2 without
having to touch land for supplies.I am looking at some other non
Bolger designs but I'll leave that out seeing how this is a Bolger
based site.I prefer to stick with a Bolger design or a spin off for
ease of building.Good luck.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Sam Glasscock <glasscocklanding@...> wrote:
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> If you are looking for Bolger designs you might look at Tennessee or
Idaho. The Topaz is rated for 50 hp for planing purposes, but PB says
she will handle well at displacement speeds with a ten horse
high-thrust outboard, and I know from experience that she makes a
great ICW cruiser. I doubt if you will find a commercially-built boat
to fill these requirements, although one of the electric boat hulls,
built for displacement, could be modified. It would probably be much
cheaper to hire someone to build you a Tennessee or Topaz, if you are
not inclined to build your own. Sounds like a great trip--good luck.
>
> --- On Sun, 8/3/08, bill shamblin <bshamblin2002@...> wrote:
>
> From: bill shamblin <bshamblin2002@...>
> Subject: [bolger] non-planing cruising boat for 4?
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 7:52 PM
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> a friend and i are thinking of a long circular cruise by powerboat
> along icw as well as rivers/canals inland. im wondering if any
> commercial boat company makes the sort of non-planing efficient
> cruiser that pb would design instead of the monster engine planing gas
> hogs i see everywhere?? ?
>
> it seems pb said the main points were keeping both ends out of the
> water and not letting her be too wide? im thinking a light 30'x6'
> might make 5 knots with dual 10 hp completely redundant system
outboards?
>
> thanks,
>
> bill in nc
>
>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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If you are building, you might want to consider these plans by Michael
Storer - developments of the Tennessee type.
http://www.storerboatplans.com/TC35/TC35.html
http://www.storerboatplans.com/Solarboat/solarboat.html
If you are "buying off the shelf" or second-hand, you'll probably (in this
day & age) be looking at an older
cruiser, pre-plastic-fantastics.
cheers
Alan J.
From: bill shamblin <bshamblin2002@...>
a friend and i are thinking of a long circular cruise by powerboat
along icw as well as rivers/canals inland. im wondering if any
commercial boat company makes the sort of non-planing efficient
cruiser that pb would design instead of the monster engine planing gas
hogs i see everywhere?? ?
it seems pb said the main points were keeping both ends out of the
water and not letting her be too wide? im thinking a light 30'x6'
might make 5 knots with dual 10 hp completely redundant system outboards?
thanks,
bill in nc
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Storer - developments of the Tennessee type.
http://www.storerboatplans.com/TC35/TC35.html
http://www.storerboatplans.com/Solarboat/solarboat.html
If you are "buying off the shelf" or second-hand, you'll probably (in this
day & age) be looking at an older
cruiser, pre-plastic-fantastics.
cheers
Alan J.
From: bill shamblin <bshamblin2002@...>
a friend and i are thinking of a long circular cruise by powerboat
along icw as well as rivers/canals inland. im wondering if any
commercial boat company makes the sort of non-planing efficient
cruiser that pb would design instead of the monster engine planing gas
hogs i see everywhere?? ?
it seems pb said the main points were keeping both ends out of the
water and not letting her be too wide? im thinking a light 30'x6'
might make 5 knots with dual 10 hp completely redundant system outboards?
thanks,
bill in nc
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If you are looking for Bolger designs you might look at Tennessee or Idaho. The Topaz is rated for 50 hp for planing purposes, but PB says she will handle well at displacement speeds with a ten horse high-thrust outboard, and I know from experience that she makes a great ICW cruiser. I doubt if you will find a commercially-built boat to fill these requirements, although one of the electric boat hulls, built for displacement, could be modified. It would probably be much cheaper to hire someone to build you a Tennessee or Topaz, if you are not inclined to build your own. Sounds like a great trip--good luck.
--- On Sun, 8/3/08, bill shamblin <bshamblin2002@...> wrote:
From: bill shamblin <bshamblin2002@...>
Subject: [bolger] non-planing cruising boat for 4?
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 7:52 PM
a friend and i are thinking of a long circular cruise by powerboat
along icw as well as rivers/canals inland. im wondering if any
commercial boat company makes the sort of non-planing efficient
cruiser that pb would design instead of the monster engine planing gas
hogs i see everywhere?? ?
it seems pb said the main points were keeping both ends out of the
water and not letting her be too wide? im thinking a light 30'x6'
might make 5 knots with dual 10 hp completely redundant system outboards?
thanks,
bill in nc
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About the only one that would do that would be a custom boat shop... Look around and find a old sailboat that has had all the sailing gear stripped off it... Craigslist is a good place to find like that as well.
Krissie
Krissie
--- On Sun, 8/3/08, bill shamblin <bshamblin2002@...> wrote:
From: bill shamblin <bshamblin2002@...>
Subject: [bolger] non-planing cruising boat for 4?
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 4:52 PM
a friend and i are thinking of a long circular cruise by powerboat
along icw as well as rivers/canals inland. im wondering if any
commercial boat company makes the sort of non-planing efficient
cruiser that pb would design instead of the monster engine planing gas
hogs i see everywhere?? ?
it seems pb said the main points were keeping both ends out of the
water and not letting her be too wide? im thinking a light 30'x6'
might make 5 knots with dual 10 hp completely redundant system outboards?
thanks,
bill in nc
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The Tennessee fills most of what you want here. It has been reported at
10mph on 10 hp. I love this picture of one overpowered with 15 hp
http://www.boatdesign.com/jumps/dixtenn/tenn4.jpg
For more
http://www.boatdesign.com/jumps/dixtenn/Page.html
HJ
bill shamblin wrote:
10mph on 10 hp. I love this picture of one overpowered with 15 hp
http://www.boatdesign.com/jumps/dixtenn/tenn4.jpg
For more
http://www.boatdesign.com/jumps/dixtenn/Page.html
HJ
bill shamblin wrote:
> a friend and i are thinking of a long circular cruise by powerboat
> along icw as well as rivers/canals inland. im wondering if any
> commercial boat company makes the sort of non-planing efficient
> cruiser that pb would design instead of the monster engine planing gas
> hogs i see everywhere???
>
> it seems pb said the main points were keeping both ends out of the
> water and not letting her be too wide? im thinking a light 30'x6'
> might make 5 knots with dual 10 hp completely redundant system outboards?
>
> thanks,
>
> bill in nc
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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a friend and i are thinking of a long circular cruise by powerboat
along icw as well as rivers/canals inland. im wondering if any
commercial boat company makes the sort of non-planing efficient
cruiser that pb would design instead of the monster engine planing gas
hogs i see everywhere???
it seems pb said the main points were keeping both ends out of the
water and not letting her be too wide? im thinking a light 30'x6'
might make 5 knots with dual 10 hp completely redundant system outboards?
thanks,
bill in nc
along icw as well as rivers/canals inland. im wondering if any
commercial boat company makes the sort of non-planing efficient
cruiser that pb would design instead of the monster engine planing gas
hogs i see everywhere???
it seems pb said the main points were keeping both ends out of the
water and not letting her be too wide? im thinking a light 30'x6'
might make 5 knots with dual 10 hp completely redundant system outboards?
thanks,
bill in nc