Re: Looking for info
Never thought about there being compatibility problems but I know I
can change the region on my pc cd drive.I will keep in mind what you
mentioned and see how it goes.Thanks.
Ben
can change the region on my pc cd drive.I will keep in mind what you
mentioned and see how it goes.Thanks.
Ben
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, ANDREW AIREY <andyairey@...> wrote:
>
> I'd a vague recollection of reading some comments about the
'Progress' - mostly of the "you shouldn't encourage people to do that
variety" - when I came across a couple for sale on Ebay - 'Wash and
Go' and 'A canal too far" which I bought for about $6.The videos are
brilliantly produced and very evocative of the English canal/coastal
scene.I'd recommend them to anyone - even at full price - which I've
just paid for a copy of the DVD of 'A cut to Caernarvon'.Not sure if
you would have compatibility problems on your side of the pond but if
you buy direct Laurence Hogg productions would be able to advise.I
shouldn't take Terry Darlington's 'amiable idiot' literary persona too
seriously though
> cheers
> andy airey
>
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I'd a vague recollection of reading some comments about the 'Progress' - mostly of the "you shouldn't encourage people to do that variety" - when I came across a couple for sale on Ebay - 'Wash and Go' and 'A canal too far" which I bought for about $6.The videos are brilliantly produced and very evocative of the English canal/coastal scene.I'd recommend them to anyone - even at full price - which I've just paid for a copy of the DVD of 'A cut to Caernarvon'.Not sure if you would have compatibility problems on your side of the pond but if you buy direct Laurence Hogg productions would be able to advise.I shouldn't take Terry Darlington's 'amiable idiot' literary persona too seriously though
cheers
andy airey
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cheers
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Krissie
Did you ever do the Herring Season in Norton Sound?
HJ
Kristine Bennett wrote:
Did you ever do the Herring Season in Norton Sound?
HJ
Kristine Bennett wrote:
> Yep you know the waters as well I can tell. Blaine Washington to Bristol Bay via the Gulf of Alaska with stops along the way for the hearing openings and then wait for Salmon openings and then work our way back to SE Alaska then back to Blaine.
>
> The Gulf can be some very rough water.... Yep when I was standing wheel watch on the Hallo Bay I felt like a bb in a match box and someone was shaking it like hell! The Dancer was a much better riding boat she was also 200 or so tons. Before the chilling tanks were full of water. I've also seen it as flat as a mill pound!
>
> Blessings Krissie
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Chris Crandall <crandall@...> wrote:
> From: Chris Crandall <crandall@...>
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:29 AM
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> Krissie is right, a scow can be quite the thing. Of course there's the
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> Like Krissie, I have sailed Alaskan waters on a large power scow
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> (although it was Bristol Bay, not Gulf of Alaska). And like hers, my
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> boat was wooden, and built in the 1940's, sailing every year from Alaska
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> to Seattle and back. These boats are The Real Thing.
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> And there's nothing like heading up a muddy Alaskan tidal river, and
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> seeing creamy white blobs appear and disappear, to discover that they
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Yep you know the waters as well I can tell. Blaine Washington to Bristol Bay via the Gulf of Alaska with stops along the way for the hearing openings and then wait for Salmon openings and then work our way back to SE Alaska then back to Blaine.
The Gulf can be some very rough water.... Yep when I was standing wheel watch on the Hallo Bay I felt like a bb in a match box and someone was shaking it like hell! The Dancer was a much better riding boat she was also 200 or so tons. Before the chilling tanks were full of water. I've also seen it as flat as a mill pound!
Blessings Krissie
The Gulf can be some very rough water.... Yep when I was standing wheel watch on the Hallo Bay I felt like a bb in a match box and someone was shaking it like hell! The Dancer was a much better riding boat she was also 200 or so tons. Before the chilling tanks were full of water. I've also seen it as flat as a mill pound!
Blessings Krissie
--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Chris Crandall <crandall@...> wrote:
From: Chris Crandall <crandall@...>
Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:29 AM
>Hey don't sell the scows short on being sea worthy! I've been across
> the Gulf of Alaska in a few power scows.
> With most scows they are 3 to 1 LOA to beam ratio. A scow is hard to
> beat if you have to carry a load!
Krissie is right, a scow can be quite the thing. Of course there's the
Pelican, which sails some pretty rugged water and wind in SF Bay.
Like Krissie, I have sailed Alaskan waters on a large power scow
(although it was Bristol Bay, not Gulf of Alaska). And like hers, my
boat was wooden, and built in the 1940's, sailing every year from Alaska
to Seattle and back. These boats are The Real Thing.
And there's nothing like heading up a muddy Alaskan tidal river, and
seeing creamy white blobs appear and disappear, to discover that they
are Beluga whales, chasing salmon. In a power scow.
-Chris
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Thanks Andy.I needed cheering up today.I checked the Narrow Dog
website and never seen a dog like theirs.I also looked into Hogg
Productions.I didn't see anything about shipping to the US.I'll have
to send them both an email.I'm interested in the video that Hogg has
about restoring a canal boat.Could give some ideas that could be
included in a boat build.Thanks again.
Ben
website and never seen a dog like theirs.I also looked into Hogg
Productions.I didn't see anything about shipping to the US.I'll have
to send them both an email.I'm interested in the video that Hogg has
about restoring a canal boat.Could give some ideas that could be
included in a boat build.Thanks again.
Ben
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, ANDREW AIREY <andyairey@...> wrote:
>
> As a guide to what has been used try reading 'Narrow dog to Indian
River',a sequel to 'Narrow dog to Carcassonne',both by Terrry
Darlington about his adventures with an English narrow canal
boat(think Weston Martyr but about 15ft longer).Laurence Hogg
productions do a very good series of videos about the adventures of
the full sized (72'x7')narrow boat 'Progress' which mostly involve
some coastal voyaging to publicise canal restoration in the UK.Not
that either of the above would recommend this type of craft for the
purpose but with suitable preparation,and a suitable weather
forecast,they can be used.
> cheers
> andy airey
>
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Beluga's are really good eating too.
HJ
Chris Crandall wrote:
HJ
Chris Crandall wrote:
> >Hey don't sell the scows short on being sea worthy! I've been across
> > the Gulf of Alaska in a few power scows.
>
> > With most scows they are 3 to 1 LOA to beam ratio. A scow is hard to
> > beat if you have to carry a load!
>
>
> Krissie is right, a scow can be quite the thing. Of course there's the
> Pelican, which sails some pretty rugged water and wind in SF Bay.
>
> Like Krissie, I have sailed Alaskan waters on a large power scow
> (although it was Bristol Bay, not Gulf of Alaska). And like hers, my
> boat was wooden, and built in the 1940's, sailing every year from Alaska
> to Seattle and back. These boats are The Real Thing.
>
> And there's nothing like heading up a muddy Alaskan tidal river, and
> seeing creamy white blobs appear and disappear, to discover that they
> are Beluga whales, chasing salmon. In a power scow.
>
> -Chris
>
>
>
>Hey don't sell the scows short on being sea worthy! I've been acrossKrissie is right, a scow can be quite the thing. Of course there's the
> the Gulf of Alaska in a few power scows.
> With most scows they are 3 to 1 LOA to beam ratio. A scow is hard to
> beat if you have to carry a load!
Pelican, which sails some pretty rugged water and wind in SF Bay.
Like Krissie, I have sailed Alaskan waters on a large power scow
(although it was Bristol Bay, not Gulf of Alaska). And like hers, my
boat was wooden, and built in the 1940's, sailing every year from Alaska
to Seattle and back. These boats are The Real Thing.
And there's nothing like heading up a muddy Alaskan tidal river, and
seeing creamy white blobs appear and disappear, to discover that they
are Beluga whales, chasing salmon. In a power scow.
-Chris
As a guide to what has been used try reading 'Narrow dog to Indian River',a sequel to 'Narrow dog to Carcassonne',both by Terrry Darlington about his adventures with an English narrow canal boat(think Weston Martyr but about 15ft longer).Laurence Hogg productions do a very good series of videos about the adventures of the full sized (72'x7')narrow boat 'Progress' which mostly involve some coastal voyaging to publicise canal restoration in the UK.Not that either of the above would recommend this type of craft for the purpose but with suitable preparation,and a suitable weather forecast,they can be used.
cheers
andy airey
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Jocassee, Keowee, & Hartwell all have deep water sailng.
Dave
Dave
--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Ben <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
From: Ben <ben_2_go@...>
Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 5:35 PM
OK.I understand what you're telling me.There are no sail boats on the
lakes in my area because of the depth.Even with a removable/raisable
center board running aground is still likely.I've never seen a sail
boat in the upstate,on a lake or for sell.The lake that I go to
frequently has an average depth of 15 feet at full pool(we're in a
drought)and most areas are less than 5 feet.I just want the option of
being able to cruise the inter coastal waterways when the kids are
away for the summer.I dunno maybe I ain't undurstandin.
--- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Brian Anderson" <bawrytr@... > wrote:
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> But I wouldn't reject the sailboat idea. What Kristine meant was to
> find an old centerboarder trailer sailboat, take the mast off, and
> maybe remove and glass over the centerboard slot/housing. Since they
> are designed to be driven by sail, you then have a ready-made boat
> that can be driven with minimal power and a lot of the stuff you are
> looking for would already be built into the thing. The trick would be
> finding one big enough for your 6 guests. It wouldn't be as stable as
> a flat-bottomed scow design or the Bantam, but it would take a lot
> less power to drive.
>
> Cheers, Brian
>
>
> --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> >
> > Sail boats are out.Most of the boats life will be on small lakes and
> > rivers.Sails would be impractical in my main area.I wanna be able to
> > take the boat to the coast and be safe on the ICW.
> > Thanks,
> > Ben
> >
> > --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Mike.Do you have some links to Martha Jane?I don't think
I've seen
> > > this one.I will try searching.Thanks.
> > >
> > > Let me clear this up a bit.I may be misleading.I wanna do day trips
> > > with 6 or 7 people and take weekenders with the misses without
having
> > > to leave the boat unless we want to.I would like a small galley and
> > > small RV type head with shower.Standing head room is a must,6 feet
> > > would be perfect.I would have a few inches to install overhead
> > > lighting without knocking myself out.I have designed a large 30 foot
> > > scow type cabin cruiser but it is not sea worthy to me.I would
> > > consider it strictly a flat water vessel.
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Mike" <mkstocks@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If "cruise 6 or 7" means only "go for a boat ride" then the Martha
> > > Jane Revised will work. If
> > > > "cruise 6 or 7" means the ability to have 6 or 7 lie down at the
> > > same time, then consider an
> > > > AS-39 as a comfortable low-power cruiser. Both are well under 50
> > > HP, the MJ being easy to
> > > > build.
%2
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Jocassee, Keowee, & Hartwell all have deep water sailng.
Dave
Dave
--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Ben <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
From: Ben <ben_2_go@...>
Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 5:35 PM
OK.I understand what you're telling me.There are no sail boats on the
lakes in my area because of the depth.Even with a removable/raisable
center board running aground is still likely.I've never seen a sail
boat in the upstate,on a lake or for sell.The lake that I go to
frequently has an average depth of 15 feet at full pool(we're in a
drought)and most areas are less than 5 feet.I just want the option of
being able to cruise the inter coastal waterways when the kids are
away for the summer.I dunno maybe I ain't undurstandin.
--- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Brian Anderson" <bawrytr@... > wrote:
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> But I wouldn't reject the sailboat idea. What Kristine meant was to
> find an old centerboarder trailer sailboat, take the mast off, and
> maybe remove and glass over the centerboard slot/housing. Since they
> are designed to be driven by sail, you then have a ready-made boat
> that can be driven with minimal power and a lot of the stuff you are
> looking for would already be built into the thing. The trick would be
> finding one big enough for your 6 guests. It wouldn't be as stable as
> a flat-bottomed scow design or the Bantam, but it would take a lot
> less power to drive.
>
> Cheers, Brian
>
>
> --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> >
> > Sail boats are out.Most of the boats life will be on small lakes and
> > rivers.Sails would be impractical in my main area.I wanna be able to
> > take the boat to the coast and be safe on the ICW.
> > Thanks,
> > Ben
> >
> > --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Mike.Do you have some links to Martha Jane?I don't think
I've seen
> > > this one.I will try searching.Thanks.
> > >
> > > Let me clear this up a bit.I may be misleading.I wanna do day trips
> > > with 6 or 7 people and take weekenders with the misses without
having
> > > to leave the boat unless we want to.I would like a small galley and
> > > small RV type head with shower.Standing head room is a must,6 feet
> > > would be perfect.I would have a few inches to install overhead
> > > lighting without knocking myself out.I have designed a large 30 foot
> > > scow type cabin cruiser but it is not sea worthy to me.I would
> > > consider it strictly a flat water vessel.
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Mike" <mkstocks@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If "cruise 6 or 7" means only "go for a boat ride" then the Martha
> > > Jane Revised will work. If
> > > > "cruise 6 or 7" means the ability to have 6 or 7 lie down at the
> > > same time, then consider an
> > > > AS-39 as a comfortable low-power cruiser. Both are well under 50
> > > HP, the MJ being easy to
> > > > build.
> > > >
> > > > Hope that helps.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans or full
> plans
> > > > > would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or widened
> > one?I
> > > > > am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise
> > up to 6
> > > > > or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2
> > nonstop,and
> > > > > uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are welcome.This will
> be my
> > > > > first time building a boat.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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What you can do is glue 3 inch foam to the hull and glue your floor on top of that you will have a stiffer bottom and you will also gain floation as well. If you are making it 30 or so feet I would look at 1/2 for the hull sides. You can find the info you need inn Nature of Boats. If you glue the foam in and then glue ply on top you could use 1/2 ply on the bottom and 3/8 for the inner floor.
Blessings Krissie
Blessings Krissie
--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Ben <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
From: Ben <ben_2_go@...>
Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:12 PM
That sounds good.Make a gentle curve from the nose down to the flat
bottom and use the inverted V out back like a Toleman/Sebright skiff.I
had planned on a 3/4 inch,floor 3/8 sides,built in furniture for
bracing instead of framing.Of course I will use stiffeners in key
areas where there will be little furniture,like in the forward
birth.To bad my design soft ware wont allow for odd shaped
arches.Everything has to be based on a radius.Thanks.
Ben
--- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, Kristine Bennett <femmpaws@.. .> wrote:
>
> Hey what you have there looks good to me the only thing I would do
and it's more for beaching. Is use a curved panel for the bow just
below your bow gate and get rid of the brake at the bottom. Also doing
it that way will help it slide up and over things in shallow water.
And to make the curve use a number of layers of thin ply. Some times
you can find killer deals on the thiner ply. And stager the joints.
>
> I helped a friend put the bottom on a small barge and I think he
used four or five layers of 3/16. Also all the sheets were just butted
together and set in slow cure epoxy and then bagged. He molded the
whole bottom that way and even put in the inverted vee in the back to
help get the outboard up 6 or 8 inches more. The front was like an LCM
6 and the back was like the LCVP both of WW II time frame. As I recall
it was 32 by 9 feet. And light she would do a fair clip with a 150 on
the back.
>
> If you can get a copy of Dave Geer's book Nature of Boats and you
will find he gives you all the info to work out what you need and how
to size it. Just make the bottom tough! You will abuse it!! HEHEHE
>
> Part of the fun of boat building at home is being able to design
your own boat and then build it! Also you get to build it into what
you want and to fit your needs not what someone else things you need.
It's the same thing with those of us that design and build homebuilt
aircraft! Why? Because we CAN!
>
> Blessings Krissie
>
> --- On Mon, 8/4/08, Ben <ben_2_go@.. .> wrote:
> From: Ben <ben_2_go@.. .>
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
> To: bolger@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 11:04 PM
>
>
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>
> The scow type boat I designed is a spin off of the WWII
landing craft
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> with out the landing ramps.Size is 8 feet wide by 30 feet or something
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> close to 3.5 or 3.8 to 1,if my math is correct.I've had some builder
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> look at it and tell me it looks good for my application. One builder
>
> said I could possibly sell plan sets of the design to home builders.I
>
> dunno about that but I am working out the details of the boat.Maybe I
>
> don't have confidence in my ability to design and feel more comfy
>
> building a custom version of a proven design.Here are links to my
>
> design only this one is smaller at 6 feet by 20 feet.I have to do some
>
> more work to this design to get it to the scow shape.I abandon this
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> design because of it's small interior.
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> --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, Harry James <welshman@ .> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > The Power scows were built for the Army to carry cargo in WWII in AK.
>
> > They may have been in other areas also. Built out of seriously large
>
> > hunks of clear Doug Fir. I have delivered to and been towed around by
>
> > them in Norton Sound back when I lived in Nome and had a herring
>
> permit.
>
> > Neat old boats, there is a video of one out there somewhere in 70 kts
>
> > plus in the Dutch harbor area on its way North. Dancer sure sounds
>
> > familiar.
>
> >
>
> > HJ
>
> >
>
> > Kristine Bennett wrote:
>
> > > Hey don't sell the scows short on being sea worthy! I've been
>
> across the Gulf of Alaska in a few power scows. They were anywhere
>
> from 58 feet to 86 feet. The Dancer was built in 42, and who knows how
>
> many thousands of tons of cargo she has carried from the lower 48 to
>
> Alaska. If she could talk there would be countless stories to be told!
>
> Hmmm maybe it's a good thing she can't!
>
> > >
>
> > > With most scows they are 3 to 1 LOA to beam ratio. A scow is hard
>
> to beat if you have to carry a load!
>
> > >
>
> > > Blessings Krissie
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That sounds good.Make a gentle curve from the nose down to the flat
bottom and use the inverted V out back like a Toleman/Sebright skiff.I
had planned on a 3/4 inch,floor 3/8 sides,built in furniture for
bracing instead of framing.Of course I will use stiffeners in key
areas where there will be little furniture,like in the forward
birth.To bad my design soft ware wont allow for odd shaped
arches.Everything has to be based on a radius.Thanks.
Ben
bottom and use the inverted V out back like a Toleman/Sebright skiff.I
had planned on a 3/4 inch,floor 3/8 sides,built in furniture for
bracing instead of framing.Of course I will use stiffeners in key
areas where there will be little furniture,like in the forward
birth.To bad my design soft ware wont allow for odd shaped
arches.Everything has to be based on a radius.Thanks.
Ben
--- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, Kristine Bennett <femmpaws@...> wrote:
>
> Hey what you have there looks good to me the only thing I would do
and it's more for beaching. Is use a curved panel for the bow just
below your bow gate and get rid of the brake at the bottom. Also doing
it that way will help it slide up and over things in shallow water.
And to make the curve use a number of layers of thin ply. Some times
you can find killer deals on the thiner ply. And stager the joints.
>
> I helped a friend put the bottom on a small barge and I think he
used four or five layers of 3/16. Also all the sheets were just butted
together and set in slow cure epoxy and then bagged. He molded the
whole bottom that way and even put in the inverted vee in the back to
help get the outboard up 6 or 8 inches more. The front was like an LCM
6 and the back was like the LCVP both of WW II time frame. As I recall
it was 32 by 9 feet. And light she would do a fair clip with a 150 on
the back.
>
> If you can get a copy of Dave Geer's book Nature of Boats and you
will find he gives you all the info to work out what you need and how
to size it. Just make the bottom tough! You will abuse it!! HEHEHE
>
> Part of the fun of boat building at home is being able to design
your own boat and then build it! Also you get to build it into what
you want and to fit your needs not what someone else things you need.
It's the same thing with those of us that design and build homebuilt
aircraft! Why? Because we CAN!
>
> Blessings Krissie
>
> --- On Mon, 8/4/08, Ben <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
> From: Ben <ben_2_go@...>
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
> To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 11:04 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The scow type boat I designed is a spin off of the WWII
landing craft
>
> with out the landing ramps.Size is 8 feet wide by 30 feet or something
>
> close to 3.5 or 3.8 to 1,if my math is correct.I've had some builder
>
> look at it and tell me it looks good for my application. One builder
>
> said I could possibly sell plan sets of the design to home builders.I
>
> dunno about that but I am working out the details of the boat.Maybe I
>
> don't have confidence in my ability to design and feel more comfy
>
> building a custom version of a proven design.Here are links to my
>
> design only this one is smaller at 6 feet by 20 feet.I have to do some
>
> more work to this design to get it to the scow shape.I abandon this
>
> design because of it's small interior.
>
>
>
> http://i205. photobucket. com/albums/ bb17/ben_ 2_go/chugger16bo
ttomveiw. jpg
>
> http://i205. photobucket. com/albums/ bb17/ben_ 2_go/chugger16re
arview.jpg
>
> http://i205. photobucket. com/albums/ bb17/ben_ 2_go/chugger16ri
ghtview.jpg
>
> http://i205. photobucket. com/albums/ bb17/ben_ 2_go/chugger16si
deview.jpg
>
>
>
> --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, Harry James <welshman@ .> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > The Power scows were built for the Army to carry cargo in WWII in AK.
>
> > They may have been in other areas also. Built out of seriously large
>
> > hunks of clear Doug Fir. I have delivered to and been towed around by
>
> > them in Norton Sound back when I lived in Nome and had a herring
>
> permit.
>
> > Neat old boats, there is a video of one out there somewhere in 70 kts
>
> > plus in the Dutch harbor area on its way North. Dancer sure sounds
>
> > familiar.
>
> >
>
> > HJ
>
> >
>
> > Kristine Bennett wrote:
>
> > > Hey don't sell the scows short on being sea worthy! I've been
>
> across the Gulf of Alaska in a few power scows. They were anywhere
>
> from 58 feet to 86 feet. The Dancer was built in 42, and who knows how
>
> many thousands of tons of cargo she has carried from the lower 48 to
>
> Alaska. If she could talk there would be countless stories to be told!
>
> Hmmm maybe it's a good thing she can't!
>
> > >
>
> > > With most scows they are 3 to 1 LOA to beam ratio. A scow is hard
>
> to beat if you have to carry a load!
>
> > >
>
> > > Blessings Krissie
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Exit 1 on 85 is a shade of 2 hours if I remember correctly.I have been down that far in 15 years or more.Man,I feel old.LOL
I have been to Hartwell but not on it.I have some friends that fish Hartwell and said a few people have been hurt because of boats running aground in what would normally be 20 feet of water.Seems like the bottom is building up with sediment and causing sand bars that weren't there the year before.I am currently working on a punt.I think it's going to turn into a jon,by the looks of it.LOL
Ben
----- Original Message ----
From: dave seeton <daveseeton@...>
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2008 9:26:55 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
Hi
Too far for lunch, we're at exit 1 on 85, but maybe. Have you ever boated on Lake Hartwell? Even with no water its still got 900 miles of shoreline.
What boats have you built so far?
Dave
I have been to Hartwell but not on it.I have some friends that fish Hartwell and said a few people have been hurt because of boats running aground in what would normally be 20 feet of water.Seems like the bottom is building up with sediment and causing sand bars that weren't there the year before.I am currently working on a punt.I think it's going to turn into a jon,by the looks of it.LOL
Ben
----- Original Message ----
From: dave seeton <daveseeton@...>
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2008 9:26:55 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
Hi
Too far for lunch, we're at exit 1 on 85, but maybe. Have you ever boated on Lake Hartwell? Even with no water its still got 900 miles of shoreline.
What boats have you built so far?
Dave
--- On Mon, 8/4/08, Ben <ben_2_go@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Ben <ben_2_go@yahoo. com>
Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
To: bolger@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 11:36 PM
Hey Dave.
Spartanburg County near the SC/NC state line.Anderson county line is
about 1.5 hours from me.I have a friend in Williamston.
Ben
--- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, dave seeton <daveseeton@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ben
> What part of SC are you in?
> Dave
> In Anderson SC
>
.
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Hey what you have there looks good to me the only thing I would do and it's more for beaching. Is use a curved panel for the bow just below your bow gate and get rid of the brake at the bottom. Also doing it that way will help it slide up and over things in shallow water. And to make the curve use a number of layers of thin ply. Some times you can find killer deals on the thiner ply. And stager the joints.
I helped a friend put the bottom on a small barge and I think he used four or five layers of 3/16. Also all the sheets were just butted together and set in slow cure epoxy and then bagged. He molded the whole bottom that way and even put in the inverted vee in the back to help get the outboard up 6 or 8 inches more. The front was like an LCM 6 and the back was like the LCVP both of WW II time frame. As I recall it was 32 by 9 feet. And light she would do a fair clip with a 150 on the back.
If you can get a copy of Dave Geer's book Nature of Boats and you will find he gives you all the info to work out what you need and how to size it. Just make the bottom tough! You will abuse it!! HEHEHE
Part of the fun of boat building at home is being able to design your own boat and then build it! Also you get to build it into what you want and to fit your needs not what someone else things you need. It's the same thing with those of us that design and build homebuilt aircraft! Why? Because we CAN!
Blessings Krissie
I helped a friend put the bottom on a small barge and I think he used four or five layers of 3/16. Also all the sheets were just butted together and set in slow cure epoxy and then bagged. He molded the whole bottom that way and even put in the inverted vee in the back to help get the outboard up 6 or 8 inches more. The front was like an LCM 6 and the back was like the LCVP both of WW II time frame. As I recall it was 32 by 9 feet. And light she would do a fair clip with a 150 on the back.
If you can get a copy of Dave Geer's book Nature of Boats and you will find he gives you all the info to work out what you need and how to size it. Just make the bottom tough! You will abuse it!! HEHEHE
Part of the fun of boat building at home is being able to design your own boat and then build it! Also you get to build it into what you want and to fit your needs not what someone else things you need. It's the same thing with those of us that design and build homebuilt aircraft! Why? Because we CAN!
Blessings Krissie
--- On Mon, 8/4/08, Ben <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
From: Ben <ben_2_go@...>
Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 11:04 PM
The scow type boat I designed is a spin off of the WWII landing craft
with out the landing ramps.Size is 8 feet wide by 30 feet or something
close to 3.5 or 3.8 to 1,if my math is correct.I've had some builder
look at it and tell me it looks good for my application. One builder
said I could possibly sell plan sets of the design to home builders.I
dunno about that but I am working out the details of the boat.Maybe I
don't have confidence in my ability to design and feel more comfy
building a custom version of a proven design.Here are links to my
design only this one is smaller at 6 feet by 20 feet.I have to do some
more work to this design to get it to the scow shape.I abandon this
design because of it's small interior.
http://i205. photobucket. com/albums/ bb17/ben_ 2_go/chugger16bo ttomveiw. jpg
http://i205. photobucket. com/albums/ bb17/ben_ 2_go/chugger16re arview.jpg
http://i205. photobucket. com/albums/ bb17/ben_ 2_go/chugger16ri ghtview.jpg
http://i205. photobucket. com/albums/ bb17/ben_ 2_go/chugger16si deview.jpg
--- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, Harry James <welshman@.. .> wrote:
>
> The Power scows were built for the Army to carry cargo in WWII in AK.
> They may have been in other areas also. Built out of seriously large
> hunks of clear Doug Fir. I have delivered to and been towed around by
> them in Norton Sound back when I lived in Nome and had a herring
permit.
> Neat old boats, there is a video of one out there somewhere in 70 kts
> plus in the Dutch harbor area on its way North. Dancer sure sounds
> familiar.
>
> HJ
>
> Kristine Bennett wrote:
> > Hey don't sell the scows short on being sea worthy! I've been
across the Gulf of Alaska in a few power scows. They were anywhere
from 58 feet to 86 feet. The Dancer was built in 42, and who knows how
many thousands of tons of cargo she has carried from the lower 48 to
Alaska. If she could talk there would be countless stories to be told!
Hmmm maybe it's a good thing she can't!
> >
> > With most scows they are 3 to 1 LOA to beam ratio. A scow is hard
to beat if you have to carry a load!
> >
> > Blessings Krissie
>
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Hi
Too far for lunch, we're at exit 1 on 85, but maybe. Have you ever boated on Lake Hartwell? Even with no water its still got 900 miles of shoreline.
What boats have you built so far?
Dave
Too far for lunch, we're at exit 1 on 85, but maybe. Have you ever boated on Lake Hartwell? Even with no water its still got 900 miles of shoreline.
What boats have you built so far?
Dave
--- On Mon, 8/4/08, Ben <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
From: Ben <ben_2_go@...>
Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 11:36 PM
Hey Dave.
Spartanburg County near the SC/NC state line.Anderson county line is
about 1.5 hours from me.I have a friend in Williamston.
Ben
--- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, dave seeton <daveseeton@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ben
> What part of SC are you in?
> Dave
> In Anderson SC
>
> --- On Mon, 8/4/08, Ben <ben_2_go@.. .> wrote:
> From: Ben <ben_2_go@.. .>
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
> To: bolger@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 9:09 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sail boats are out.Most of the boats life will be on
small lakes and
>
> rivers.Sails would be impractical in my main area.I wanna be able to
>
> take the boat to the coast and be safe on the ICW.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@ .> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Hey Mike.Do you have some links to Martha Jane?I don't think I've seen
>
> > this one.I will try searching.Thanks.
>
> >
>
> > Let me clear this up a bit.I may be misleading.I wanna do day trips
>
> > with 6 or 7 people and take weekenders with the misses without having
>
> > to leave the boat unless we want to.I would like a small galley and
>
> > small RV type head with shower.Standing head room is a must,6 feet
>
> > would be perfect.I would have a few inches to install overhead
>
> > lighting without knocking myself out.I have designed a large 30 foot
>
> > scow type cabin cruiser but it is not sea worthy to me.I would
>
> > consider it strictly a flat water vessel.
>
> >
>
> > Ben
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Mike" <mkstocks@> wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > If "cruise 6 or 7" means only "go for a boat ride" then the Martha
>
> > Jane Revised will work. If
>
> > > "cruise 6 or 7" means the ability to have 6 or 7 lie down at the
>
> > same time, then consider an
>
> > > AS-39 as a comfortable low-power cruiser. Both are well under 50
>
> > HP, the MJ being easy to
>
> > > build.
>
> > >
>
> > > Hope that helps.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
>
> > > >
>
> > > > I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans or full
plans
>
> > > > would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or widened
>
> one?I
>
> > > > am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise
>
> up to 6
>
> > > > or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2
>
> nonstop,and
>
> > > > uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are welcome.This will
be my
>
> > > > first time building a boat.
>
> > > >
>
> > >
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> >
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I have an issue in that a sailing TBird has been on my wish list for
years. They are such a great sailing boat it would seem a shame to
convert one to power.
HJ
Bryant Owen wrote:
years. They are such a great sailing boat it would seem a shame to
convert one to power.
HJ
Bryant Owen wrote:
> A couple of years ago I saw an ad for an unfinished Seaborn
> Thunderbird. Not sure why the recommendation was that it be converted
> to power cruising only but it was done in all essentials except finish
> and rigging. I somehow got the impression that this "conversion" or
> more accurately built up for power cruising only was not an uncommon
> thing. Anybody ever heard of this? I have to admit that it looked like
> it would make a nice little displacement cruiser that wouldn't look
> too much like a sailboat conversion.
>
> Bryant
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Anderson" <bawrytr@...> wrote:
>
>> One other thing is that I don't know if money is a big factor, but a
>> lot of times used boats come with odds and ends of things that you
>> will need, anchor(s), life jackets, spare parts, fenders, a swim
>> ladder, dock lines, cushions, awnings, bug screens, and other things,
>> that can add up to quite a bit.
>>
>> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Anderson" <bawrytr@> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a link to a boat:
>>>
>>>http://www.sailingtexas.com/samf2100a.html
>>>
>>> It doesn't draw more than about 12" I'd say, and has a completed
>>> cabin. 15hp would push the boat as fast as it is going to want to go
>>> into a a pretty stiff wind. You couldn't get near that price for that
>>> much boat building it yourself. You just forget the mast and sails,
>>> hang an outboard on it, do some fixing here and there, paint it, and
>>> you're good to go with much less time and much less money involved.
>>>
>>> Here is a page with a similar boat:
>>>
>>>http://www.sailingtexas.com/smacgregor19c.html
>>>
>>> and down a bit there's a diagram of how these boats are laid out. You
>>> can see the centerboard there, which could be taken out and the slot
>>> glassed over, or just left where it is and could come in handy
>>> sometimes when motoring across the wind.
>>>
>>> The thing is that these kind of boats can be found cheap, are pretty
>>> common, and the amount of work, and cash, to get one up to motor
>>> cruising would be minimal compared to building what you are talking
>>> about. Some of them are even sort of hybrids designed to sail OK but
>>> also to plane with a medium sized, in these degenerate days, engine in
>>> back.
>>>
>>> On the other hand if you want to build a boat, there have been some
>>> really good suggestions that might fit pretty much exactly what you
>>> want and maybe also that picture in your head of the perfect boat, and
>>> just the fun of building and cruising in it can be worth 100 times the
>>> price of admission.
>>>
>>> So I don't know these boats well enough to be able to suggest a model
>>> that might fit all your criteria, but it might be worth thinking about
>>> and hunting around a bit. O'Day, MacGregor, Hunter, AMF, and some
>>> others make similar boats. Might be worth having a look.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Brian
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK.I understand what you're telling me.There are no sail boats
>>>>
> on the
>
>>>> lakes in my area because of the depth.Even with a removable/raisable
>>>> center board running aground is still likely.I've never seen a sail
>>>> boat in the upstate,on a lake or for sell.The lake that I go to
>>>> frequently has an average depth of 15 feet at full pool(we're in a
>>>> drought)and most areas are less than 5 feet.I just want the
>>>>
> option of
>
>>>> being able to cruise the inter coastal waterways when the kids are
>>>> away for the summer.I dunno maybe I ain't undurstandin.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Anderson" <bawrytr@> wrote:
>>>>
>
A couple of years ago I saw an ad for an unfinished Seaborn
Thunderbird. Not sure why the recommendation was that it be converted
to power cruising only but it was done in all essentials except finish
and rigging. I somehow got the impression that this "conversion" or
more accurately built up for power cruising only was not an uncommon
thing. Anybody ever heard of this? I have to admit that it looked like
it would make a nice little displacement cruiser that wouldn't look
too much like a sailboat conversion.
Bryant
Thunderbird. Not sure why the recommendation was that it be converted
to power cruising only but it was done in all essentials except finish
and rigging. I somehow got the impression that this "conversion" or
more accurately built up for power cruising only was not an uncommon
thing. Anybody ever heard of this? I have to admit that it looked like
it would make a nice little displacement cruiser that wouldn't look
too much like a sailboat conversion.
Bryant
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Anderson" <bawrytr@...> wrote:
>
> One other thing is that I don't know if money is a big factor, but a
> lot of times used boats come with odds and ends of things that you
> will need, anchor(s), life jackets, spare parts, fenders, a swim
> ladder, dock lines, cushions, awnings, bug screens, and other things,
> that can add up to quite a bit.
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Anderson" <bawrytr@> wrote:
> >
> > Here's a link to a boat:
> >
> >http://www.sailingtexas.com/samf2100a.html
> >
> > It doesn't draw more than about 12" I'd say, and has a completed
> > cabin. 15hp would push the boat as fast as it is going to want to go
> > into a a pretty stiff wind. You couldn't get near that price for that
> > much boat building it yourself. You just forget the mast and sails,
> > hang an outboard on it, do some fixing here and there, paint it, and
> > you're good to go with much less time and much less money involved.
> >
> > Here is a page with a similar boat:
> >
> >http://www.sailingtexas.com/smacgregor19c.html
> >
> > and down a bit there's a diagram of how these boats are laid out. You
> > can see the centerboard there, which could be taken out and the slot
> > glassed over, or just left where it is and could come in handy
> > sometimes when motoring across the wind.
> >
> > The thing is that these kind of boats can be found cheap, are pretty
> > common, and the amount of work, and cash, to get one up to motor
> > cruising would be minimal compared to building what you are talking
> > about. Some of them are even sort of hybrids designed to sail OK but
> > also to plane with a medium sized, in these degenerate days, engine in
> > back.
> >
> > On the other hand if you want to build a boat, there have been some
> > really good suggestions that might fit pretty much exactly what you
> > want and maybe also that picture in your head of the perfect boat, and
> > just the fun of building and cruising in it can be worth 100 times the
> > price of admission.
> >
> > So I don't know these boats well enough to be able to suggest a model
> > that might fit all your criteria, but it might be worth thinking about
> > and hunting around a bit. O'Day, MacGregor, Hunter, AMF, and some
> > others make similar boats. Might be worth having a look.
> >
> > Cheers, Brian
> >
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > >
> > > OK.I understand what you're telling me.There are no sail boats
on the
> > > lakes in my area because of the depth.Even with a removable/raisable
> > > center board running aground is still likely.I've never seen a sail
> > > boat in the upstate,on a lake or for sell.The lake that I go to
> > > frequently has an average depth of 15 feet at full pool(we're in a
> > > drought)and most areas are less than 5 feet.I just want the
option of
> > > being able to cruise the inter coastal waterways when the kids are
> > > away for the summer.I dunno maybe I ain't undurstandin.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Anderson" <bawrytr@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ben,
> > > >
> > > > But I wouldn't reject the sailboat idea. What Kristine meant
was to
> > > > find an old centerboarder trailer sailboat, take the mast off, and
> > > > maybe remove and glass over the centerboard slot/housing.
Since they
> > > > are designed to be driven by sail, you then have a ready-made boat
> > > > that can be driven with minimal power and a lot of the stuff
you are
> > > > looking for would already be built into the thing. The trick
> would be
> > > > finding one big enough for your 6 guests. It wouldn't be as
> stable as
> > > > a flat-bottomed scow design or the Bantam, but it would take a lot
> > > > less power to drive.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, Brian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sail boats are out.Most of the boats life will be on small
> lakes and
> > > > > rivers.Sails would be impractical in my main area.I wanna be
> able to
> > > > > take the boat to the coast and be safe on the ICW.
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Ben
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Mike.Do you have some links to Martha Jane?I don't think
> > > I've seen
> > > > > > this one.I will try searching.Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let me clear this up a bit.I may be misleading.I wanna do day
> > trips
> > > > > > with 6 or 7 people and take weekenders with the misses without
> > > having
> > > > > > to leave the boat unless we want to.I would like a small
> > galley and
> > > > > > small RV type head with shower.Standing head room is a
> must,6 feet
> > > > > > would be perfect.I would have a few inches to install overhead
> > > > > > lighting without knocking myself out.I have designed a large
> > 30 foot
> > > > > > scow type cabin cruiser but it is not sea worthy to me.I would
> > > > > > consider it strictly a flat water vessel.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ben
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mkstocks@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If "cruise 6 or 7" means only "go for a boat ride" then the
> > Martha
> > > > > > Jane Revised will work. If
> > > > > > > "cruise 6 or 7" means the ability to have 6 or 7 lie down
> at the
> > > > > > same time, then consider an
> > > > > > > AS-39 as a comfortable low-power cruiser. Both are well
> > under 50
> > > > > > HP, the MJ being easy to
> > > > > > > build.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hope that helps.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans
> or full
> > > > plans
> > > > > > > > would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or
> > widened
> > > > > one?I
> > > > > > > > am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can
> cruise
> > > > > up to 6
> > > > > > > > or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2
> > > > > nonstop,and
> > > > > > > > uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are
> welcome.This will
> > > > be my
> > > > > > > > first time building a boat.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
One other thing is that I don't know if money is a big factor, but a
lot of times used boats come with odds and ends of things that you
will need, anchor(s), life jackets, spare parts, fenders, a swim
ladder, dock lines, cushions, awnings, bug screens, and other things,
that can add up to quite a bit.
lot of times used boats come with odds and ends of things that you
will need, anchor(s), life jackets, spare parts, fenders, a swim
ladder, dock lines, cushions, awnings, bug screens, and other things,
that can add up to quite a bit.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Anderson" <bawrytr@...> wrote:
>
> Here's a link to a boat:
>
>http://www.sailingtexas.com/samf2100a.html
>
> It doesn't draw more than about 12" I'd say, and has a completed
> cabin. 15hp would push the boat as fast as it is going to want to go
> into a a pretty stiff wind. You couldn't get near that price for that
> much boat building it yourself. You just forget the mast and sails,
> hang an outboard on it, do some fixing here and there, paint it, and
> you're good to go with much less time and much less money involved.
>
> Here is a page with a similar boat:
>
>http://www.sailingtexas.com/smacgregor19c.html
>
> and down a bit there's a diagram of how these boats are laid out. You
> can see the centerboard there, which could be taken out and the slot
> glassed over, or just left where it is and could come in handy
> sometimes when motoring across the wind.
>
> The thing is that these kind of boats can be found cheap, are pretty
> common, and the amount of work, and cash, to get one up to motor
> cruising would be minimal compared to building what you are talking
> about. Some of them are even sort of hybrids designed to sail OK but
> also to plane with a medium sized, in these degenerate days, engine in
> back.
>
> On the other hand if you want to build a boat, there have been some
> really good suggestions that might fit pretty much exactly what you
> want and maybe also that picture in your head of the perfect boat, and
> just the fun of building and cruising in it can be worth 100 times the
> price of admission.
>
> So I don't know these boats well enough to be able to suggest a model
> that might fit all your criteria, but it might be worth thinking about
> and hunting around a bit. O'Day, MacGregor, Hunter, AMF, and some
> others make similar boats. Might be worth having a look.
>
> Cheers, Brian
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> >
> > OK.I understand what you're telling me.There are no sail boats on the
> > lakes in my area because of the depth.Even with a removable/raisable
> > center board running aground is still likely.I've never seen a sail
> > boat in the upstate,on a lake or for sell.The lake that I go to
> > frequently has an average depth of 15 feet at full pool(we're in a
> > drought)and most areas are less than 5 feet.I just want the option of
> > being able to cruise the inter coastal waterways when the kids are
> > away for the summer.I dunno maybe I ain't undurstandin.
> >
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Anderson" <bawrytr@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ben,
> > >
> > > But I wouldn't reject the sailboat idea. What Kristine meant was to
> > > find an old centerboarder trailer sailboat, take the mast off, and
> > > maybe remove and glass over the centerboard slot/housing. Since they
> > > are designed to be driven by sail, you then have a ready-made boat
> > > that can be driven with minimal power and a lot of the stuff you are
> > > looking for would already be built into the thing. The trick
would be
> > > finding one big enough for your 6 guests. It wouldn't be as
stable as
> > > a flat-bottomed scow design or the Bantam, but it would take a lot
> > > less power to drive.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Brian
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sail boats are out.Most of the boats life will be on small
lakes and
> > > > rivers.Sails would be impractical in my main area.I wanna be
able to
> > > > take the boat to the coast and be safe on the ICW.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ben
> > > >
> > > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey Mike.Do you have some links to Martha Jane?I don't think
> > I've seen
> > > > > this one.I will try searching.Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let me clear this up a bit.I may be misleading.I wanna do day
> trips
> > > > > with 6 or 7 people and take weekenders with the misses without
> > having
> > > > > to leave the boat unless we want to.I would like a small
> galley and
> > > > > small RV type head with shower.Standing head room is a
must,6 feet
> > > > > would be perfect.I would have a few inches to install overhead
> > > > > lighting without knocking myself out.I have designed a large
> 30 foot
> > > > > scow type cabin cruiser but it is not sea worthy to me.I would
> > > > > consider it strictly a flat water vessel.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ben
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mkstocks@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If "cruise 6 or 7" means only "go for a boat ride" then the
> Martha
> > > > > Jane Revised will work. If
> > > > > > "cruise 6 or 7" means the ability to have 6 or 7 lie down
at the
> > > > > same time, then consider an
> > > > > > AS-39 as a comfortable low-power cruiser. Both are well
> under 50
> > > > > HP, the MJ being easy to
> > > > > > build.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope that helps.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans
or full
> > > plans
> > > > > > > would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or
> widened
> > > > one?I
> > > > > > > am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can
cruise
> > > > up to 6
> > > > > > > or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2
> > > > nonstop,and
> > > > > > > uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are
welcome.This will
> > > be my
> > > > > > > first time building a boat.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Here's a link to a boat:
http://www.sailingtexas.com/samf2100a.html
It doesn't draw more than about 12" I'd say, and has a completed
cabin. 15hp would push the boat as fast as it is going to want to go
into a a pretty stiff wind. You couldn't get near that price for that
much boat building it yourself. You just forget the mast and sails,
hang an outboard on it, do some fixing here and there, paint it, and
you're good to go with much less time and much less money involved.
Here is a page with a similar boat:
http://www.sailingtexas.com/smacgregor19c.html
and down a bit there's a diagram of how these boats are laid out. You
can see the centerboard there, which could be taken out and the slot
glassed over, or just left where it is and could come in handy
sometimes when motoring across the wind.
The thing is that these kind of boats can be found cheap, are pretty
common, and the amount of work, and cash, to get one up to motor
cruising would be minimal compared to building what you are talking
about. Some of them are even sort of hybrids designed to sail OK but
also to plane with a medium sized, in these degenerate days, engine in
back.
On the other hand if you want to build a boat, there have been some
really good suggestions that might fit pretty much exactly what you
want and maybe also that picture in your head of the perfect boat, and
just the fun of building and cruising in it can be worth 100 times the
price of admission.
So I don't know these boats well enough to be able to suggest a model
that might fit all your criteria, but it might be worth thinking about
and hunting around a bit. O'Day, MacGregor, Hunter, AMF, and some
others make similar boats. Might be worth having a look.
Cheers, Brian
http://www.sailingtexas.com/samf2100a.html
It doesn't draw more than about 12" I'd say, and has a completed
cabin. 15hp would push the boat as fast as it is going to want to go
into a a pretty stiff wind. You couldn't get near that price for that
much boat building it yourself. You just forget the mast and sails,
hang an outboard on it, do some fixing here and there, paint it, and
you're good to go with much less time and much less money involved.
Here is a page with a similar boat:
http://www.sailingtexas.com/smacgregor19c.html
and down a bit there's a diagram of how these boats are laid out. You
can see the centerboard there, which could be taken out and the slot
glassed over, or just left where it is and could come in handy
sometimes when motoring across the wind.
The thing is that these kind of boats can be found cheap, are pretty
common, and the amount of work, and cash, to get one up to motor
cruising would be minimal compared to building what you are talking
about. Some of them are even sort of hybrids designed to sail OK but
also to plane with a medium sized, in these degenerate days, engine in
back.
On the other hand if you want to build a boat, there have been some
really good suggestions that might fit pretty much exactly what you
want and maybe also that picture in your head of the perfect boat, and
just the fun of building and cruising in it can be worth 100 times the
price of admission.
So I don't know these boats well enough to be able to suggest a model
that might fit all your criteria, but it might be worth thinking about
and hunting around a bit. O'Day, MacGregor, Hunter, AMF, and some
others make similar boats. Might be worth having a look.
Cheers, Brian
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
>
> OK.I understand what you're telling me.There are no sail boats on the
> lakes in my area because of the depth.Even with a removable/raisable
> center board running aground is still likely.I've never seen a sail
> boat in the upstate,on a lake or for sell.The lake that I go to
> frequently has an average depth of 15 feet at full pool(we're in a
> drought)and most areas are less than 5 feet.I just want the option of
> being able to cruise the inter coastal waterways when the kids are
> away for the summer.I dunno maybe I ain't undurstandin.
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Anderson" <bawrytr@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ben,
> >
> > But I wouldn't reject the sailboat idea. What Kristine meant was to
> > find an old centerboarder trailer sailboat, take the mast off, and
> > maybe remove and glass over the centerboard slot/housing. Since they
> > are designed to be driven by sail, you then have a ready-made boat
> > that can be driven with minimal power and a lot of the stuff you are
> > looking for would already be built into the thing. The trick would be
> > finding one big enough for your 6 guests. It wouldn't be as stable as
> > a flat-bottomed scow design or the Bantam, but it would take a lot
> > less power to drive.
> >
> > Cheers, Brian
> >
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sail boats are out.Most of the boats life will be on small lakes and
> > > rivers.Sails would be impractical in my main area.I wanna be able to
> > > take the boat to the coast and be safe on the ICW.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ben
> > >
> > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey Mike.Do you have some links to Martha Jane?I don't think
> I've seen
> > > > this one.I will try searching.Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Let me clear this up a bit.I may be misleading.I wanna do day
trips
> > > > with 6 or 7 people and take weekenders with the misses without
> having
> > > > to leave the boat unless we want to.I would like a small
galley and
> > > > small RV type head with shower.Standing head room is a must,6 feet
> > > > would be perfect.I would have a few inches to install overhead
> > > > lighting without knocking myself out.I have designed a large
30 foot
> > > > scow type cabin cruiser but it is not sea worthy to me.I would
> > > > consider it strictly a flat water vessel.
> > > >
> > > > Ben
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mkstocks@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > If "cruise 6 or 7" means only "go for a boat ride" then the
Martha
> > > > Jane Revised will work. If
> > > > > "cruise 6 or 7" means the ability to have 6 or 7 lie down at the
> > > > same time, then consider an
> > > > > AS-39 as a comfortable low-power cruiser. Both are well
under 50
> > > > HP, the MJ being easy to
> > > > > build.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope that helps.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans or full
> > plans
> > > > > > would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or
widened
> > > one?I
> > > > > > am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise
> > > up to 6
> > > > > > or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2
> > > nonstop,and
> > > > > > uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are welcome.This will
> > be my
> > > > > > first time building a boat.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> I just want the option ofIf you want to go cruising, buy a boat (don't build).
> being able to cruise the inter coastal waterways when the kids are
> away for the summer.I dunno maybe I ain't undurstandin.
If you want cheap, buy a used boat (don't build).
OK.I understand what you're telling me.There are no sail boats on the
lakes in my area because of the depth.Even with a removable/raisable
center board running aground is still likely.I've never seen a sail
boat in the upstate,on a lake or for sell.The lake that I go to
frequently has an average depth of 15 feet at full pool(we're in a
drought)and most areas are less than 5 feet.I just want the option of
being able to cruise the inter coastal waterways when the kids are
away for the summer.I dunno maybe I ain't undurstandin.
lakes in my area because of the depth.Even with a removable/raisable
center board running aground is still likely.I've never seen a sail
boat in the upstate,on a lake or for sell.The lake that I go to
frequently has an average depth of 15 feet at full pool(we're in a
drought)and most areas are less than 5 feet.I just want the option of
being able to cruise the inter coastal waterways when the kids are
away for the summer.I dunno maybe I ain't undurstandin.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Anderson" <bawrytr@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> But I wouldn't reject the sailboat idea. What Kristine meant was to
> find an old centerboarder trailer sailboat, take the mast off, and
> maybe remove and glass over the centerboard slot/housing. Since they
> are designed to be driven by sail, you then have a ready-made boat
> that can be driven with minimal power and a lot of the stuff you are
> looking for would already be built into the thing. The trick would be
> finding one big enough for your 6 guests. It wouldn't be as stable as
> a flat-bottomed scow design or the Bantam, but it would take a lot
> less power to drive.
>
> Cheers, Brian
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> >
> > Sail boats are out.Most of the boats life will be on small lakes and
> > rivers.Sails would be impractical in my main area.I wanna be able to
> > take the boat to the coast and be safe on the ICW.
> > Thanks,
> > Ben
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Mike.Do you have some links to Martha Jane?I don't think
I've seen
> > > this one.I will try searching.Thanks.
> > >
> > > Let me clear this up a bit.I may be misleading.I wanna do day trips
> > > with 6 or 7 people and take weekenders with the misses without
having
> > > to leave the boat unless we want to.I would like a small galley and
> > > small RV type head with shower.Standing head room is a must,6 feet
> > > would be perfect.I would have a few inches to install overhead
> > > lighting without knocking myself out.I have designed a large 30 foot
> > > scow type cabin cruiser but it is not sea worthy to me.I would
> > > consider it strictly a flat water vessel.
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mkstocks@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If "cruise 6 or 7" means only "go for a boat ride" then the Martha
> > > Jane Revised will work. If
> > > > "cruise 6 or 7" means the ability to have 6 or 7 lie down at the
> > > same time, then consider an
> > > > AS-39 as a comfortable low-power cruiser. Both are well under 50
> > > HP, the MJ being easy to
> > > > build.
> > > >
> > > > Hope that helps.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans or full
> plans
> > > > > would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or widened
> > one?I
> > > > > am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise
> > up to 6
> > > > > or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2
> > nonstop,and
> > > > > uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are welcome.This will
> be my
> > > > > first time building a boat.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Hi Ben,
But I wouldn't reject the sailboat idea. What Kristine meant was to
find an old centerboarder trailer sailboat, take the mast off, and
maybe remove and glass over the centerboard slot/housing. Since they
are designed to be driven by sail, you then have a ready-made boat
that can be driven with minimal power and a lot of the stuff you are
looking for would already be built into the thing. The trick would be
finding one big enough for your 6 guests. It wouldn't be as stable as
a flat-bottomed scow design or the Bantam, but it would take a lot
less power to drive.
Cheers, Brian
But I wouldn't reject the sailboat idea. What Kristine meant was to
find an old centerboarder trailer sailboat, take the mast off, and
maybe remove and glass over the centerboard slot/housing. Since they
are designed to be driven by sail, you then have a ready-made boat
that can be driven with minimal power and a lot of the stuff you are
looking for would already be built into the thing. The trick would be
finding one big enough for your 6 guests. It wouldn't be as stable as
a flat-bottomed scow design or the Bantam, but it would take a lot
less power to drive.
Cheers, Brian
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
>
> Sail boats are out.Most of the boats life will be on small lakes and
> rivers.Sails would be impractical in my main area.I wanna be able to
> take the boat to the coast and be safe on the ICW.
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Mike.Do you have some links to Martha Jane?I don't think I've seen
> > this one.I will try searching.Thanks.
> >
> > Let me clear this up a bit.I may be misleading.I wanna do day trips
> > with 6 or 7 people and take weekenders with the misses without having
> > to leave the boat unless we want to.I would like a small galley and
> > small RV type head with shower.Standing head room is a must,6 feet
> > would be perfect.I would have a few inches to install overhead
> > lighting without knocking myself out.I have designed a large 30 foot
> > scow type cabin cruiser but it is not sea worthy to me.I would
> > consider it strictly a flat water vessel.
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mkstocks@> wrote:
> > >
> > > If "cruise 6 or 7" means only "go for a boat ride" then the Martha
> > Jane Revised will work. If
> > > "cruise 6 or 7" means the ability to have 6 or 7 lie down at the
> > same time, then consider an
> > > AS-39 as a comfortable low-power cruiser. Both are well under 50
> > HP, the MJ being easy to
> > > build.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans or full
plans
> > > > would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or widened
> one?I
> > > > am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise
> up to 6
> > > > or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2
> nonstop,and
> > > > uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are welcome.This will
be my
> > > > first time building a boat.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
The scow type boat I designed is a spin off of the WWII landing craft
with out the landing ramps.Size is 8 feet wide by 30 feet or something
close to 3.5 or 3.8 to 1,if my math is correct.I've had some builder
look at it and tell me it looks good for my application.One builder
said I could possibly sell plan sets of the design to home builders.I
dunno about that but I am working out the details of the boat.Maybe I
don't have confidence in my ability to design and feel more comfy
building a custom version of a proven design.Here are links to my
design only this one is smaller at 6 feet by 20 feet.I have to do some
more work to this design to get it to the scow shape.I abandon this
design because of it's small interior.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/chugger16bottomveiw.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/chugger16rearview.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/chugger16rightview.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/chugger16sideview.jpg
with out the landing ramps.Size is 8 feet wide by 30 feet or something
close to 3.5 or 3.8 to 1,if my math is correct.I've had some builder
look at it and tell me it looks good for my application.One builder
said I could possibly sell plan sets of the design to home builders.I
dunno about that but I am working out the details of the boat.Maybe I
don't have confidence in my ability to design and feel more comfy
building a custom version of a proven design.Here are links to my
design only this one is smaller at 6 feet by 20 feet.I have to do some
more work to this design to get it to the scow shape.I abandon this
design because of it's small interior.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/chugger16bottomveiw.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/chugger16rearview.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/chugger16rightview.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/chugger16sideview.jpg
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
>
> The Power scows were built for the Army to carry cargo in WWII in AK.
> They may have been in other areas also. Built out of seriously large
> hunks of clear Doug Fir. I have delivered to and been towed around by
> them in Norton Sound back when I lived in Nome and had a herring
permit.
> Neat old boats, there is a video of one out there somewhere in 70 kts
> plus in the Dutch harbor area on its way North. Dancer sure sounds
> familiar.
>
> HJ
>
> Kristine Bennett wrote:
> > Hey don't sell the scows short on being sea worthy! I've been
across the Gulf of Alaska in a few power scows. They were anywhere
from 58 feet to 86 feet. The Dancer was built in 42, and who knows how
many thousands of tons of cargo she has carried from the lower 48 to
Alaska. If she could talk there would be countless stories to be told!
Hmmm maybe it's a good thing she can't!
> >
> > With most scows they are 3 to 1 LOA to beam ratio. A scow is hard
to beat if you have to carry a load!
> >
> > Blessings Krissie
> >
> > --- On Mon, 8/4/08, Ben <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
> > From: Ben <ben_2_go@...>
> > Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
> > To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 3:51 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey Mike.Do you have some links to Martha Jane?I don't
think I've seen
> >
> > this one.I will try searching.Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Let me clear this up a bit.I may be misleading.I wanna do day trips
> >
> > with 6 or 7 people and take weekenders with the misses without having
> >
> > to leave the boat unless we want to.I would like a small galley and
> >
> > small RV type head with shower.Standing head room is a must,6 feet
> >
> > would be perfect.I would have a few inches to install overhead
> >
> > lighting without knocking myself out.I have designed a large 30 foot
> >
> > scow type cabin cruiser but it is not sea worthy to me.I would
> >
> > consider it strictly a flat water vessel.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Mike" <mkstocks@ .> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> If "cruise 6 or 7" means only "go for a boat ride" then the Martha
> >>
> >
> > Jane Revised will work. If
> >
> >
> >> "cruise 6 or 7" means the ability to have 6 or 7 lie down at the
> >>
> >
> > same time, then consider an
> >
> >
> >> AS-39 as a comfortable low-power cruiser. Both are well under 50
> >>
> >
> > HP, the MJ being easy to
> >
> >
> >> build.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Hope that helps.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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nonstop,and
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posts
> > - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
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01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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The Power scows were built for the Army to carry cargo in WWII in AK.
They may have been in other areas also. Built out of seriously large
hunks of clear Doug Fir. I have delivered to and been towed around by
them in Norton Sound back when I lived in Nome and had a herring permit.
Neat old boats, there is a video of one out there somewhere in 70 kts
plus in the Dutch harbor area on its way North. Dancer sure sounds
familiar.
HJ
Kristine Bennett wrote:
They may have been in other areas also. Built out of seriously large
hunks of clear Doug Fir. I have delivered to and been towed around by
them in Norton Sound back when I lived in Nome and had a herring permit.
Neat old boats, there is a video of one out there somewhere in 70 kts
plus in the Dutch harbor area on its way North. Dancer sure sounds
familiar.
HJ
Kristine Bennett wrote:
> Hey don't sell the scows short on being sea worthy! I've been across the Gulf of Alaska in a few power scows. They were anywhere from 58 feet to 86 feet. The Dancer was built in 42, and who knows how many thousands of tons of cargo she has carried from the lower 48 to Alaska. If she could talk there would be countless stories to be told! Hmmm maybe it's a good thing she can't!
>
> With most scows they are 3 to 1 LOA to beam ratio. A scow is hard to beat if you have to carry a load!
>
> Blessings Krissie
>
> --- On Mon, 8/4/08, Ben <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
> From: Ben <ben_2_go@...>
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 3:51 PM
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> Hey Mike.Do you have some links to Martha Jane?I don't think I've seen
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> this one.I will try searching.Thanks.
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> Let me clear this up a bit.I may be misleading.I wanna do day trips
>
> with 6 or 7 people and take weekenders with the misses without having
>
> to leave the boat unless we want to.I would like a small galley and
>
> small RV type head with shower.Standing head room is a must,6 feet
>
> would be perfect.I would have a few inches to install overhead
>
> lighting without knocking myself out.I have designed a large 30 foot
>
> scow type cabin cruiser but it is not sea worthy to me.I would
>
> consider it strictly a flat water vessel.
>
>
>
> Ben
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>
>
> --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Mike" <mkstocks@.. .> wrote:
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>> If "cruise 6 or 7" means only "go for a boat ride" then the Martha
>>
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> Jane Revised will work. If
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>> "cruise 6 or 7" means the ability to have 6 or 7 lie down at the
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> same time, then consider an
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>> AS-39 as a comfortable low-power cruiser. Both are well under 50
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> HP, the MJ being easy to
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>> build.
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>> --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
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>>> I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans or full plans
>>>
>
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>>> would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or widened one?I
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>>> am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise up to 6
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> Bolger rules!!!
> - NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, respamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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Hey don't sell the scows short on being sea worthy! I've been across the Gulf of Alaska in a few power scows. They were anywhere from 58 feet to 86 feet. The Dancer was built in 42, and who knows how many thousands of tons of cargo she has carried from the lower 48 to Alaska. If she could talk there would be countless stories to be told! Hmmm maybe it's a good thing she can't!
With most scows they are 3 to 1 LOA to beam ratio. A scow is hard to beat if you have to carry a load!
Blessings Krissie
With most scows they are 3 to 1 LOA to beam ratio. A scow is hard to beat if you have to carry a load!
Blessings Krissie
--- On Mon, 8/4/08, Ben <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
From: Ben <ben_2_go@...>
Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 3:51 PM
Hey Mike.Do you have some links to Martha Jane?I don't think I've seen
this one.I will try searching.Thanks.
Let me clear this up a bit.I may be misleading.I wanna do day trips
with 6 or 7 people and take weekenders with the misses without having
to leave the boat unless we want to.I would like a small galley and
small RV type head with shower.Standing head room is a must,6 feet
would be perfect.I would have a few inches to install overhead
lighting without knocking myself out.I have designed a large 30 foot
scow type cabin cruiser but it is not sea worthy to me.I would
consider it strictly a flat water vessel.
Ben
--- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Mike" <mkstocks@.. .> wrote:
>
> If "cruise 6 or 7" means only "go for a boat ride" then the Martha
Jane Revised will work. If
> "cruise 6 or 7" means the ability to have 6 or 7 lie down at the
same time, then consider an
> AS-39 as a comfortable low-power cruiser. Both are well under 50
HP, the MJ being easy to
> build.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
>
>
> --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> >
> > I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans or full plans
> > would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or widened one?I
> > am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise up to 6
> > or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2 nonstop,and
> > uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are welcome.This will be my
> > first time building a boat.
> >
>
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Hey Dave.
Spartanburg County near the SC/NC state line.Anderson county line is
about 1.5 hours from me.I have a friend in Williamston.
Ben
Spartanburg County near the SC/NC state line.Anderson county line is
about 1.5 hours from me.I have a friend in Williamston.
Ben
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, dave seeton <daveseeton@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ben
> What part of SC are you in?
> Dave
> In Anderson SC
>
> --- On Mon, 8/4/08, Ben <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
> From: Ben <ben_2_go@...>
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 9:09 PM
>
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> Sail boats are out.Most of the boats life will be on
small lakes and
>
> rivers.Sails would be impractical in my main area.I wanna be able to
>
> take the boat to the coast and be safe on the ICW.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@ .> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Hey Mike.Do you have some links to Martha Jane?I don't think I've seen
>
> > this one.I will try searching.Thanks.
>
> >
>
> > Let me clear this up a bit.I may be misleading.I wanna do day trips
>
> > with 6 or 7 people and take weekenders with the misses without having
>
> > to leave the boat unless we want to.I would like a small galley and
>
> > small RV type head with shower.Standing head room is a must,6 feet
>
> > would be perfect.I would have a few inches to install overhead
>
> > lighting without knocking myself out.I have designed a large 30 foot
>
> > scow type cabin cruiser but it is not sea worthy to me.I would
>
> > consider it strictly a flat water vessel.
>
> >
>
> > Ben
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Mike" <mkstocks@> wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > If "cruise 6 or 7" means only "go for a boat ride" then the Martha
>
> > Jane Revised will work. If
>
> > > "cruise 6 or 7" means the ability to have 6 or 7 lie down at the
>
> > same time, then consider an
>
> > > AS-39 as a comfortable low-power cruiser. Both are well under 50
>
> > HP, the MJ being easy to
>
> > > build.
>
> > >
>
> > > Hope that helps.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
>
> > > >
>
> > > > I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans or full
plans
>
> > > > would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or widened
>
> one?I
>
> > > > am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise
>
> up to 6
>
> > > > or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2
>
> nonstop,and
>
> > > > uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are welcome.This will
be my
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Hi Ben
What part of SC are you in?
Dave
In Anderson SC
What part of SC are you in?
Dave
In Anderson SC
--- On Mon, 8/4/08, Ben <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
From: Ben <ben_2_go@...>
Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 9:09 PM
Sail boats are out.Most of the boats life will be on small lakes and
rivers.Sails would be impractical in my main area.I wanna be able to
take the boat to the coast and be safe on the ICW.
Thanks,
Ben
--- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@.. .> wrote:
>
> Hey Mike.Do you have some links to Martha Jane?I don't think I've seen
> this one.I will try searching.Thanks.
>
> Let me clear this up a bit.I may be misleading.I wanna do day trips
> with 6 or 7 people and take weekenders with the misses without having
> to leave the boat unless we want to.I would like a small galley and
> small RV type head with shower.Standing head room is a must,6 feet
> would be perfect.I would have a few inches to install overhead
> lighting without knocking myself out.I have designed a large 30 foot
> scow type cabin cruiser but it is not sea worthy to me.I would
> consider it strictly a flat water vessel.
>
> Ben
>
>
> --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Mike" <mkstocks@> wrote:
> >
> > If "cruise 6 or 7" means only "go for a boat ride" then the Martha
> Jane Revised will work. If
> > "cruise 6 or 7" means the ability to have 6 or 7 lie down at the
> same time, then consider an
> > AS-39 as a comfortable low-power cruiser. Both are well under 50
> HP, the MJ being easy to
> > build.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans or full plans
> > > would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or widened
one?I
> > > am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise
up to 6
> > > or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2
nonstop,and
> > > uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are welcome.This will be my
> > > first time building a boat.
> > >
> >
>
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Sail boats are out.Most of the boats life will be on small lakes and
rivers.Sails would be impractical in my main area.I wanna be able to
take the boat to the coast and be safe on the ICW.
Thanks,
Ben
rivers.Sails would be impractical in my main area.I wanna be able to
take the boat to the coast and be safe on the ICW.
Thanks,
Ben
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Mike.Do you have some links to Martha Jane?I don't think I've seen
> this one.I will try searching.Thanks.
>
> Let me clear this up a bit.I may be misleading.I wanna do day trips
> with 6 or 7 people and take weekenders with the misses without having
> to leave the boat unless we want to.I would like a small galley and
> small RV type head with shower.Standing head room is a must,6 feet
> would be perfect.I would have a few inches to install overhead
> lighting without knocking myself out.I have designed a large 30 foot
> scow type cabin cruiser but it is not sea worthy to me.I would
> consider it strictly a flat water vessel.
>
> Ben
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mkstocks@> wrote:
> >
> > If "cruise 6 or 7" means only "go for a boat ride" then the Martha
> Jane Revised will work. If
> > "cruise 6 or 7" means the ability to have 6 or 7 lie down at the
> same time, then consider an
> > AS-39 as a comfortable low-power cruiser. Both are well under 50
> HP, the MJ being easy to
> > build.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans or full plans
> > > would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or widened
one?I
> > > am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise
up to 6
> > > or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2
nonstop,and
> > > uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are welcome.This will be my
> > > first time building a boat.
> > >
> >
>
Hey Mike.Do you have some links to Martha Jane?I don't think I've seen
this one.I will try searching.Thanks.
Let me clear this up a bit.I may be misleading.I wanna do day trips
with 6 or 7 people and take weekenders with the misses without having
to leave the boat unless we want to.I would like a small galley and
small RV type head with shower.Standing head room is a must,6 feet
would be perfect.I would have a few inches to install overhead
lighting without knocking myself out.I have designed a large 30 foot
scow type cabin cruiser but it is not sea worthy to me.I would
consider it strictly a flat water vessel.
Ben
this one.I will try searching.Thanks.
Let me clear this up a bit.I may be misleading.I wanna do day trips
with 6 or 7 people and take weekenders with the misses without having
to leave the boat unless we want to.I would like a small galley and
small RV type head with shower.Standing head room is a must,6 feet
would be perfect.I would have a few inches to install overhead
lighting without knocking myself out.I have designed a large 30 foot
scow type cabin cruiser but it is not sea worthy to me.I would
consider it strictly a flat water vessel.
Ben
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mkstocks@...> wrote:
>
> If "cruise 6 or 7" means only "go for a boat ride" then the Martha
Jane Revised will work. If
> "cruise 6 or 7" means the ability to have 6 or 7 lie down at the
same time, then consider an
> AS-39 as a comfortable low-power cruiser. Both are well under 50
HP, the MJ being easy to
> build.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@> wrote:
> >
> > I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans or full plans
> > would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or widened one?I
> > am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise up to 6
> > or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2 nonstop,and
> > uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are welcome.This will be my
> > first time building a boat.
> >
>
If "cruise 6 or 7" means only "go for a boat ride" then the Martha Jane Revised will work. If
"cruise 6 or 7" means the ability to have 6 or 7 lie down at the same time, then consider an
AS-39 as a comfortable low-power cruiser. Both are well under 50 HP, the MJ being easy to
build.
Hope that helps.
"cruise 6 or 7" means the ability to have 6 or 7 lie down at the same time, then consider an
AS-39 as a comfortable low-power cruiser. Both are well under 50 HP, the MJ being easy to
build.
Hope that helps.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
>
> I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans or full plans
> would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or widened one?I
> am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise up to 6
> or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2 nonstop,and
> uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are welcome.This will be my
> first time building a boat.
>
I am feeling better about the Topaz.I am in SC and will be building
outside.I have to take that into consideration.I have no flat hard
surface to build on.I'd like to build a 30 x 30 clearspan
garage/shop,but that would put the boat build off at least 5
years.I've lost touch with all of my builder contacts,so I can't get
standard building materials cheap.I'll come up with something.Thanks.
Ben
outside.I have to take that into consideration.I have no flat hard
surface to build on.I'd like to build a 30 x 30 clearspan
garage/shop,but that would put the boat build off at least 5
years.I've lost touch with all of my builder contacts,so I can't get
standard building materials cheap.I'll come up with something.Thanks.
Ben
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Sam Glasscock <glasscocklanding@...> wrote:
>
> Ben, I built a Topaz, cruised her from Delaware down through the
Chesapeake, up the coast to New York and through the Hudson to
Champlain, and down in the Florida Keys. I got the itch to go
off-shore and sold her to get a bluewater cruiser, which is great
except I don't have the time to use her like I want. I intend to sell
her and to build a Tennessee for local day-cruising over this winter.
If I can answer any Topaz questions, I'll be happy to--she is a nice
boat. Sam
>
> --- On Mon, 8/4/08, Ben <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
>
> From: Ben <ben_2_go@...>
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 3:54 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am considering the Topaz.I just wanna make a well informed choice
> and keep my options open.When I build a big boat.It will be with me
> for a while.Maybe my only big boat and only one I ever build.Well big
> to me.Thanks.
>
> Ben
>
> --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, Sam Glasscock <glasscocklanding@
...> wrote:
> >
> > Ben, you might look at Bolger's Topaz, which meets all you design
> criteria, but is not a catamaran. Otherwise, she would be ideal.
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Ben, I built a Topaz, cruised her from Delaware down through the Chesapeake, up the coast to New York and through the Hudson to Champlain, and down in the Florida Keys. I got the itch to go off-shore and sold her to get a bluewater cruiser, which is great except I don't have the time to use her like I want. I intend to sell her and to build a Tennessee for local day-cruising over this winter. If I can answer any Topaz questions, I'll be happy to--she is a nice boat. Sam
--- On Mon, 8/4/08, Ben <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
From: Ben <ben_2_go@...>
Subject: [bolger] Re: Looking for info
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 3:54 PM
I am considering the Topaz.I just wanna make a well informed choice
and keep my options open.When I build a big boat.It will be with me
for a while.Maybe my only big boat and only one I ever build.Well big
to me.Thanks.
Ben
--- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, Sam Glasscock <glasscocklanding@ ...> wrote:
>
> Ben, you might look at Bolger's Topaz, which meets all you design
criteria, but is not a catamaran. Otherwise, she would be ideal.
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I am considering the Topaz.I just wanna make a well informed choice
and keep my options open.When I build a big boat.It will be with me
for a while.Maybe my only big boat and only one I ever build.Well big
to me.Thanks.
Ben
and keep my options open.When I build a big boat.It will be with me
for a while.Maybe my only big boat and only one I ever build.Well big
to me.Thanks.
Ben
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Sam Glasscock <glasscocklanding@...> wrote:
>
> Ben, you might look at Bolger's Topaz, which meets all you design
criteria, but is not a catamaran. Otherwise, she would be ideal.
>
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I had seen the other links but never found Bruce's flickr
presentation.That gives me a better idea of how the boat is
shaped.Thanks for the links.
Another thing I should add is that planing is not required.It would be
nice but I wanna stay low powered and fuel effiecent.I will tour the
ICW some so some sea worthiness has to be considered.I'm not planning
to be caught in rough water or far from shore.Thanks again.
Ben
presentation.That gives me a better idea of how the boat is
shaped.Thanks for the links.
Another thing I should add is that planing is not required.It would be
nice but I wanna stay low powered and fuel effiecent.I will tour the
ICW some so some sea worthiness has to be considered.I'm not planning
to be caught in rough water or far from shore.Thanks again.
Ben
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
>
> Couple of online sites
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>http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/07/projects/bantam/index.htm
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> Cruising a bantam in FL.
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>http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/08/outings/florida/index.htm
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>http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/08/outings/florida2/index.htm
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> Bruce's flicker presentation
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>http://flickr.com/photos/86125870@N00/2548720606
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> here is another one out there that uses a June bug as a dingy if I
> remember correctly, owner is on the group so he will probably respond.
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> If you haven't built a boat before Krissie is right on in suggesting
> that you start smaller.
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> HJ
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> > I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans
or full plans
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> > would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or widened one?I
> >
> > am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise up to 6
> >
> > or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2 nonstop,and
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> > uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are welcome.This will be my
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> > Bolger rules!!!
> > - NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please!
> > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, respamming, or flogging
dead horses
> > - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred'
posts
> > - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> > - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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Ben, you might look at Bolger's Topaz, which meets all you design criteria, but is not a catamaran. Otherwise, she would be ideal.
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Couple of online sites
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/07/projects/bantam/index.htm
Cruising a bantam in FL.
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/08/outings/florida/index.htm
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/08/outings/florida2/index.htm
Bruce's flicker presentation
http://flickr.com/photos/86125870@N00/2548720606
here is another one out there that uses a June bug as a dingy if I
remember correctly, owner is on the group so he will probably respond.
If you haven't built a boat before Krissie is right on in suggesting
that you start smaller.
HJ
Kristine Bennett wrote:
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/07/projects/bantam/index.htm
Cruising a bantam in FL.
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/08/outings/florida/index.htm
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/08/outings/florida2/index.htm
Bruce's flicker presentation
http://flickr.com/photos/86125870@N00/2548720606
here is another one out there that uses a June bug as a dingy if I
remember correctly, owner is on the group so he will probably respond.
If you haven't built a boat before Krissie is right on in suggesting
that you start smaller.
HJ
Kristine Bennett wrote:
> Ben one of the members has a Bantam and is very happy with it, I know he made a number of changes to is as I remember making it 3 or 4 inches deeper in the hulls and I think adding a couple of feet to it. He is using a lot less then 50 Hp. I think he's using 9.9 or 15 Hp
>
> The Bantam is somewhere near 8 feet wide I think. I wouldn't make it any wider then 8 foot 6 over all. Anything over that becomes a hassle to trailer.
>
> You can get plans right from Mr Bolger and Friends the address is on the bottom of most of the group's pages.
>
> If this is your first boat project I would suggest you build something a little smaller to start. Maybe something that can be used as a tender for the Bantam. I'm not saying don't build a big boat, I'm saying build something small to help start the learning curve of boat building. You will be doing some lofting and fitting and it's better to mess up cheap ply on the small both then a full sheet of the spendy ply.
>
> Blessings Krissie
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Ben <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
> From: Ben <ben_2_go@...>
> Subject: [bolger] Looking for info
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 9:23 PM
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> I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans or full plans
>
> would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or widened one?I
>
> am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise up to 6
>
> or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2 nonstop,and
>
> uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are welcome.This will be my
>
> first time building a boat.
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>
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> Bolger rules!!!
> - NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, respamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links
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Thanks.I am aware of the width being a problem for trailering.I was
unaware of the width of the Bantam.The Bantam sounds good power
wise.This will really be my second boat.First real boat.The boat I am
building now is a Jim Michalak's Polepunt.I should have mention that I
need a boat with a shallow draft of around 12 inches or less with the
motor raised.I am trying to stay with a plywood design.I am not new to
wood work.I have done remodeling work,apartment/dorm maintence,mobile
home rehab,and built a few shops/outbuildings.The thing that confuses
me the most, is the different types of planking,and the varing
thickness and angles of the planking.I guess maybe that's a little to
time consuming and hard to understand for me.Thanks for the info.I
will try to contact them.If anyone else has info to share,please
share. =^)
unaware of the width of the Bantam.The Bantam sounds good power
wise.This will really be my second boat.First real boat.The boat I am
building now is a Jim Michalak's Polepunt.I should have mention that I
need a boat with a shallow draft of around 12 inches or less with the
motor raised.I am trying to stay with a plywood design.I am not new to
wood work.I have done remodeling work,apartment/dorm maintence,mobile
home rehab,and built a few shops/outbuildings.The thing that confuses
me the most, is the different types of planking,and the varing
thickness and angles of the planking.I guess maybe that's a little to
time consuming and hard to understand for me.Thanks for the info.I
will try to contact them.If anyone else has info to share,please
share. =^)
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Kristine Bennett <femmpaws@...> wrote:
>
> Ben one of the members has a Bantam and is very happy with it, I
know he made a number of changes to is as I remember making it 3 or 4
inches deeper in the hulls and I think adding a couple of feet to it.
He is using a lot less then 50 Hp. I think he's using 9.9 or 15 Hp
>
> The Bantam is somewhere near 8 feet wide I think. I wouldn't make it
any wider then 8 foot 6 over all. Anything over that becomes a hassle
to trailer.
>
> You can get plans right from Mr Bolger and Friends the address is on
the bottom of most of the group's pages.
>
> If this is your first boat project I would suggest you build
something a little smaller to start. Maybe something that can be used
as a tender for the Bantam. I'm not saying don't build a big boat, I'm
saying build something small to help start the learning curve of boat
building. You will be doing some lofting and fitting and it's better
to mess up cheap ply on the small both then a full sheet of the spendy
ply.
>
> Blessings Krissie
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Ben <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
> From: Ben <ben_2_go@...>
> Subject: [bolger] Looking for info
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 9:23 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans
or full plans
>
> would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or widened one?I
>
> am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise up to 6
>
> or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2 nonstop,and
>
> uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are welcome.This will be my
>
> first time building a boat.
>
>
>
>
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Ben one of the members has a Bantam and is very happy with it, I know he made a number of changes to is as I remember making it 3 or 4 inches deeper in the hulls and I think adding a couple of feet to it. He is using a lot less then 50 Hp. I think he's using 9.9 or 15 Hp
The Bantam is somewhere near 8 feet wide I think. I wouldn't make it any wider then 8 foot 6 over all. Anything over that becomes a hassle to trailer.
You can get plans right from Mr Bolger and Friends the address is on the bottom of most of the group's pages.
If this is your first boat project I would suggest you build something a little smaller to start. Maybe something that can be used as a tender for the Bantam. I'm not saying don't build a big boat, I'm saying build something small to help start the learning curve of boat building. You will be doing some lofting and fitting and it's better to mess up cheap ply on the small both then a full sheet of the spendy ply.
Blessings Krissie
The Bantam is somewhere near 8 feet wide I think. I wouldn't make it any wider then 8 foot 6 over all. Anything over that becomes a hassle to trailer.
You can get plans right from Mr Bolger and Friends the address is on the bottom of most of the group's pages.
If this is your first boat project I would suggest you build something a little smaller to start. Maybe something that can be used as a tender for the Bantam. I'm not saying don't build a big boat, I'm saying build something small to help start the learning curve of boat building. You will be doing some lofting and fitting and it's better to mess up cheap ply on the small both then a full sheet of the spendy ply.
Blessings Krissie
--- On Sun, 8/3/08, Ben <ben_2_go@...> wrote:
From: Ben <ben_2_go@...>
Subject: [bolger] Looking for info
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 9:23 PM
I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans or full plans
would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or widened one?I
am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise up to 6
or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2 nonstop,and
uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are welcome.This will be my
first time building a boat.
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I am looking for info on the Bolger Bantam.Study plans or full plans
would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or widened one?I
am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise up to 6
or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2 nonstop,and
uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are welcome.This will be my
first time building a boat.
would be good.Is there anyone that has stretched and/or widened one?I
am looking for a boat with full standing cabin that can cruise up to 6
or 7 persons,has the ability to do weekend cruises with 2 nonstop,and
uses an OB with less than 50HP.Any ideas are welcome.This will be my
first time building a boat.