Re: [bolger] Re: 1950 Deep Water Utility
It's in the commentary on his 'Slicer' design, on pg 91. His
objections are numerous -- they get fumes in the boat, they're hard to
fair properly, they either block the motor from swinging up or they
take up more space than an inboard, they interfere with reserve
boyancy and watertight integrity, etc. It's worth reading yourself; if
you don't own the book yourself, the passage can be found on Google
Books.
-p
objections are numerous -- they get fumes in the boat, they're hard to
fair properly, they either block the motor from swinging up or they
take up more space than an inboard, they interfere with reserve
boyancy and watertight integrity, etc. It's worth reading yourself; if
you don't own the book yourself, the passage can be found on Google
Books.
-p
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:17 AM, mark hamill <mhamill1@...> wrote:
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> Do you remember what things he said about the wells--too complicated or prone to leaks??
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> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Pierce Nichols" <rocketgeek@...> wrote:
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>> He referred to that boat in one of the essays in BWAOM... in the
>> context of saying nasty things about inboard wells.
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On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Howard Stephenson
<howardstephenson@...> wrote:
V13-N13, including just the plan, a partial profile and a grainy photo
of the boat. Somewhat obscured, so my rendering involves educated
guessing below the waterline, but I'd bet it is pretty close to
accurate.
<howardstephenson@...> wrote:
> Nice rendition as usual, Bruce. Where did you find the plans?Thanks. There was a brief "Bolger on Design" write up in MAIB
V13-N13, including just the plan, a partial profile and a grainy photo
of the boat. Somewhat obscured, so my rendering involves educated
guessing below the waterline, but I'd bet it is pretty close to
accurate.
Nice rendition as usual, Bruce. Where did you find the plans?
Mounting the "outboard" in the middle of the boat was quite common at
one time (and might still be for all I know) in small light flat-
bottomed fishing craft. I guess Bolger calls it a deep-water boat
because it has a higher freeboard than those, and a vee bottom.
These fishing boats were not high-speed planing craft. I suspect a
well in the middle of a planing surface would lead to a great shower
of water coming up through the hole even before planing speed was
reached.
In a chapter by David D. Beach (an appropriate name) in the FAO book
"Fishing Boats of the World 2" (first published 1960) there are
several drawings and photos of small flat-bottomed craft with a
variety of outboard wells, including a few in the centre of the hull,
and even one offset to one side at the stern.
Howard
Mounting the "outboard" in the middle of the boat was quite common at
one time (and might still be for all I know) in small light flat-
bottomed fishing craft. I guess Bolger calls it a deep-water boat
because it has a higher freeboard than those, and a vee bottom.
These fishing boats were not high-speed planing craft. I suspect a
well in the middle of a planing surface would lead to a great shower
of water coming up through the hole even before planing speed was
reached.
In a chapter by David D. Beach (an appropriate name) in the FAO book
"Fishing Boats of the World 2" (first published 1960) there are
several drawings and photos of small flat-bottomed craft with a
variety of outboard wells, including a few in the centre of the hull,
and even one offset to one side at the stern.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
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>http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/3202628608/
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> Here is an isometric of the first Bolger boat built. 15'6" long. I
> think it interesting, that even as a 23 year old kid, Phil Bolger
was
> thinking out of the box. Notice the inboard well mounted 10
> horsepower outboard. This eliminated the need for steering and
> throttle linkage, which was troublesome in 1950.
>
P
Do you remember what things he said about the wells--too complicated or prone to leaks??
Do you remember what things he said about the wells--too complicated or prone to leaks??
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Pierce Nichols" <rocketgeek@...> wrote:
>
> He referred to that boat in one of the essays in BWAOM... in the
> context of saying nasty things about inboard wells.
>
He referred to that boat in one of the essays in BWAOM... in the
context of saying nasty things about inboard wells.
-p
context of saying nasty things about inboard wells.
-p
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
>http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/3202628608/
>
> Here is an isometric of the first Bolger boat built. 15'6" long. I
> think it interesting, that even as a 23 year old kid, Phil Bolger was
> thinking out of the box. Notice the inboard well mounted 10
> horsepower outboard. This eliminated the need for steering and
> throttle linkage, which was troublesome in 1950.
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, respamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
>
http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/3202628608/
Here is an isometric of the first Bolger boat built. 15'6" long. I
think it interesting, that even as a 23 year old kid, Phil Bolger was
thinking out of the box. Notice the inboard well mounted 10
horsepower outboard. This eliminated the need for steering and
throttle linkage, which was troublesome in 1950.
Here is an isometric of the first Bolger boat built. 15'6" long. I
think it interesting, that even as a 23 year old kid, Phil Bolger was
thinking out of the box. Notice the inboard well mounted 10
horsepower outboard. This eliminated the need for steering and
throttle linkage, which was troublesome in 1950.