Re: [bolger] Re: clam skiff?
Can they comb the moss, if not they are in a drought zone.
HJ ( who shaves the moss off every morning in SE AK)
John Kohnen wrote:
HJ ( who shaves the moss off every morning in SE AK)
John Kohnen wrote:
> Myles has a dock on Tenmile Lakes on the Oregon coast. Not a lot of sun,
> but plenty of rain, fog and wind. <g> Even the people who live on the
> Oregon coast have moss groing on 'em...
>
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:55:41 -0800, Christopher C. W. wrote:
>
>
>> Where is the dock?
>>
>> Myles J. Swift wrote:
>>
>>> My 10 year old June Bug was built with 1088 ply. It lived upside down
>>> on the dock for the first 5 years of life. It has been painted twice in
>>> all that time with exterior latex both times. The only problem I got
>>> was rot in a spray rail made of clear fir. No checks or marks on any of
>>> the ply so far.
>>>
>
>
Now John we know the weather has been better on the Oregon Coast then
the lower inland valley this last week. One thing about the Oregon
Coast is that there is always salt in the air. Salt helps slow dry
rot but with the weather you get wet rot 300 days a year.
Jon
the lower inland valley this last week. One thing about the Oregon
Coast is that there is always salt in the air. Salt helps slow dry
rot but with the weather you get wet rot 300 days a year.
Jon
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Kohnen" <jhkohnen@...> wrote:
>
> Myles has a dock on Tenmile Lakes on the Oregon coast. Not a lot of
sun,
> but plenty of rain, fog and wind. <g> Even the people who live on
the
> Oregon coast have moss groing on 'em...
>
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:55:41 -0800, Christopher C. W. wrote:
>
> > Where is the dock?
> >
> > Myles J. Swift wrote:
> >> My 10 year old June Bug was built with 1088 ply. It lived upside
down
> >> on the dock for the first 5 years of life. It has been painted
twice in
> >> all that time with exterior latex both times. The only problem I
got
> >> was rot in a spray rail made of clear fir. No checks or marks on
any of
> >> the ply so far.
>
> --
> John <jkohnen@...>
> You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image
> when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
> <Anne Lamott>
>
Myles has a dock on Tenmile Lakes on the Oregon coast. Not a lot of sun,
but plenty of rain, fog and wind. <g> Even the people who live on the
Oregon coast have moss groing on 'em...
but plenty of rain, fog and wind. <g> Even the people who live on the
Oregon coast have moss groing on 'em...
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:55:41 -0800, Christopher C. W. wrote:
> Where is the dock?
>
> Myles J. Swift wrote:
>> My 10 year old June Bug was built with 1088 ply. It lived upside down
>> on the dock for the first 5 years of life. It has been painted twice in
>> all that time with exterior latex both times. The only problem I got
>> was rot in a spray rail made of clear fir. No checks or marks on any of
>> the ply so far.
--
John <jkohnen@...>
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image
when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
<Anne Lamott>
The paint was the best Baer from Home Depot the first time. The second time I bought it from a local hardware store. I can't remember the brand but the paint guy said it was the same company that made Baer.
The only glass on my June Bug is tape on the seams. The rest is just paint over ply.
MylesJ
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The only glass on my June Bug is tape on the seams. The rest is just paint over ply.
MylesJ
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The dock is on south Ten Mile Lake which is just north of Coos Bay, Oregon. The lake is one of several fresh water lakes in the dunes. Daily weather report is winds 10 to 20 with gusts to 35.
MylesJ
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MylesJ
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Did u glass the inside and outside of the ply?
In a message dated 1/20/2009 3:56:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
wetherillc@...writes:
Where is the dock?
Myles J. Swift wrote:
time with exterior latex both times. The only problem I got was rot in a
spray rail made of clear fir. No checks or marks on any of the ply so far.
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Where is the dock?
Myles J. Swift wrote:
> My 10 year old June Bug was built with 1088 ply. It lived upside down onthe dock for the first 5 years of life. It has been painted twice in all that
time with exterior latex both times. The only problem I got was rot in a
spray rail made of clear fir. No checks or marks on any of the ply so far.
>horses
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Hi good results,
Who's latex?
Thank you
From: Myles J. Swift
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:50 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: clam skiff?
My 10 year old June Bug was built with 1088 ply. It lived upside down on the dock for the first 5 years of life. It has been painted twice in all that time with exterior latex both times. The only problem I got was rot in a spray rail made of clear fir. No checks or marks on any of the ply so far.
MylesJ
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Who's latex?
Thank you
From: Myles J. Swift
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:50 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: clam skiff?
My 10 year old June Bug was built with 1088 ply. It lived upside down on the dock for the first 5 years of life. It has been painted twice in all that time with exterior latex both times. The only problem I got was rot in a spray rail made of clear fir. No checks or marks on any of the ply so far.
MylesJ
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I would not consider the LYS series to be any better than the Clam skiff boats.
I have plans to both, LYS have slightly taller and angled sides. The clam skiffs have heavier bottoms.
The plans also actually have LESS details than Payson's, which is quite amazing.
You might build a Diablo Grande with out all the crap. A very stable design.
It looks as if Bolger was trying to crank out a bass boats with the Diablo Grande.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:27 PM
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Subject: [bolger] Re: clam skiff?
http://www.oldwharf.com/ow_building20lys.html<http://www.oldwharf.com/ow_building20lys.html>
I don't know the waters you intend to use, but others have wondered
about Bolger's Clam Skiff in them. The link above describes a power
dory that may be a better choice and is no doubt about the same money
and effort as the Clam Skiff. Also, review of the build up sequence
is similar to the Bolger, so should be of value.
Can also look at Glenn-L's dorys which are a bit complex, IMO, but
they offer plans for cabin add ons which could be adapted.
Don
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I would not consider the LYS series to be any better than the Clam skiff boats.
I have plans to both, LYS have slightly taller and angled sides. The clam skiffs have heavier bottoms.
The plans also actually have LESS details than Payson's, which is quite amazing.
You might build a Diablo Grande with out all the crap. A very stable design.
It looks as if Bolger was trying to crank out a bass boats with the Diablo Grande.
If you built the Diablo Grande with the interior of the 15' Diablo version, you would have a boat, that
I hope, would grow with your family.
Here is my little Diablo.
<http://c3agzq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pY1b3iax2kO_NWLY5Jt-Bnxx2BGr61mVzYfObEqzJ2GbHKw_3yBjjzUbBXRq-gLyxy4ou0MqZgfk/Imported%20Photos%2000018.jpg?download>
From: daschultz2000<mailto:daschultz8275@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:27 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com<mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [bolger] Re: clam skiff?
http://www.oldwharf.com/ow_building20lys.html<http://www.oldwharf.com/ow_building20lys.html>
I don't know the waters you intend to use, but others have wondered
about Bolger's Clam Skiff in them. The link above describes a power
dory that may be a better choice and is no doubt about the same money
and effort as the Clam Skiff. Also, review of the build up sequence
is similar to the Bolger, so should be of value.
Can also look at Glenn-L's dorys which are a bit complex, IMO, but
they offer plans for cabin add ons which could be adapted.
Don
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> I am planning my first boat building project and have found
> myself in a dilema. I find the designs for Pilgrim's Pride and Humble
> Peasant from Shoestring Shipyard appealing, but, I have my
> reservations aboat them as well.
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http://www.oldwharf.com/ow_building20lys.html
I don't know the waters you intend to use, but others have wondered
about Bolger's Clam Skiff in them. The link above describes a power
dory that may be a better choice and is no doubt about the same money
and effort as the Clam Skiff. Also, review of the build up sequence
is similar to the Bolger, so should be of value.
Can also look at Glenn-L's dorys which are a bit complex, IMO, but
they offer plans for cabin add ons which could be adapted.
Don
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "john_reinhagen" <john_reinhagen@...>
wrote:
I don't know the waters you intend to use, but others have wondered
about Bolger's Clam Skiff in them. The link above describes a power
dory that may be a better choice and is no doubt about the same money
and effort as the Clam Skiff. Also, review of the build up sequence
is similar to the Bolger, so should be of value.
Can also look at Glenn-L's dorys which are a bit complex, IMO, but
they offer plans for cabin add ons which could be adapted.
Don
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "john_reinhagen" <john_reinhagen@...>
wrote:
>
> I am planning my first boat building project and have found
> myself in a dilema. I find the designs for Pilgrim's Pride and Humble
> Peasant from Shoestring Shipyard appealing, but, I have my
> reservations aboat them as well.
Where is the dock?
Myles J. Swift wrote:
Myles J. Swift wrote:
> My 10 year old June Bug was built with 1088 ply. It lived upside down on the dock for the first 5 years of life. It has been painted twice in all that time with exterior latex both times. The only problem I got was rot in a spray rail made of clear fir. No checks or marks on any of the ply so far.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> MylesJ
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My 10 year old June Bug was built with 1088 ply. It lived upside down on the dock for the first 5 years of life. It has been painted twice in all that time with exterior latex both times. The only problem I got was rot in a spray rail made of clear fir. No checks or marks on any of the ply so far.
MylesJ
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MylesJ
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I find the quality varies quite a bit. I find that some shipments
contain very high quality while some are poor and as you might guess
most are in between.
I also find that 1/4 inch SYP BC Plywood tends to have fewer voids
than 3/8 inch. I am building a Michalak AF4 now with 1/4 inch BC and
have not found a void yet. For 1/2 inch I always use MDO. I can get
some pretty nice stuff at the local stores here for $45.00 a sheet.
You just have to go to all of the local home stores and see what you
can find. The other day I needed a sheet of 1/4 inch and had to go to
four different stores before I found a nice sheet (No visible voids).
Persistence has always payed off for me.
Chris Feller
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Christopher Wetherill <wetherillc@...>
wrote:
there has been considerable drift in the quality of sheet products in
15 years. I looked at Home Depot the other day and could not find a
piece of 3/8 without voids at the edge.
contain very high quality while some are poor and as you might guess
most are in between.
I also find that 1/4 inch SYP BC Plywood tends to have fewer voids
than 3/8 inch. I am building a Michalak AF4 now with 1/4 inch BC and
have not found a void yet. For 1/2 inch I always use MDO. I can get
some pretty nice stuff at the local stores here for $45.00 a sheet.
You just have to go to all of the local home stores and see what you
can find. The other day I needed a sheet of 1/4 inch and had to go to
four different stores before I found a nice sheet (No visible voids).
Persistence has always payed off for me.
Chris Feller
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Christopher Wetherill <wetherillc@...>
wrote:
>discussion. One point, among several that were germaine was that
> It might be a good idea to read the recent threads containing this
there has been considerable drift in the quality of sheet products in
15 years. I looked at Home Depot the other day and could not find a
piece of 3/8 without voids at the edge.
>dead horses
> V/R
> Chris
>
> --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Chris Feller <chrisbfeller@...> wrote:
>
> From: Chris Feller <chrisbfeller@...>
> Subject: [bolger] Re: clam skiff?
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:32 PM
>
> I would definitely recommend using off the shelf lumber yard plywood.
> My 15 year old Bolger 10 1/2 pointy skiff is still going strong.
> It's made of AC exterior plywood. I think if you take care of it you
> could easily get 10 years of use out of it. I am sure that the best
> materials will give you a longer life however I also believe that
> standard materials will survive much longer than most peoples interest
> in any given boat. This is certainly true of me. I find I want a new
> boat every few years.
>
> Also when Harold Payson built the prototype he used cheap materials too.
>
> Chris Feller
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "john_reinhagen"
> <john_reinhagen@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I am planning my first boat building project and have found
> > myself in a dilema. I find the designs for Pilgrim's Pride and Humble
> > Peasant from Shoestring Shipyard appealing, but, I have my
> > reservations aboat them as well.
> > I have not had much experience in flat bottom boats and question
> > whether I should spend the time and money to build them if my family
> > and I might out grow them fairly quickly. While reading boats with an
> > open mind, I came across clam skiff. It would seem to be a much
> > simpler build. If I can keep time and labor costs down I could build
> > clam skiff to meet our needs for the next five years or so. I could
> > then use the time and experience gained to build a hull for our
> > future needs.
> > There is, naturaly, a fly in the ointment. Mr Bolger specifies a
> > one inch botom with a shoe sheathed in fiberglass for clam skiff. If
> > I were to build it in bs 1088 meranti plywood, it would become quite
> > expensive for a project of limited ambition. I would like to know if
> > less expensive materials might be adequate for this project.
> > I will use the boat to take my daughter on local ponds and lakes.
> > I would also like to take my family out for short trips in fair
> > weather on Narragansett and Buzzards Bays. It will spend most of its
> > life on a trailer outside. I would like to power it with an outboard
> > of less than twenty horse power. Any feed back will be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > John
> >
>
>
>
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It might be a good idea to read the recent threads containing this discussion. One point, among several that were germaine was that there has been considerable drift in the quality of sheet products in 15 years. I looked at Home Depot the other day and could not find a piece of 3/8 without voids at the edge.
V/R
Chris
V/R
Chris
--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Chris Feller <chrisbfeller@...> wrote:
From: Chris Feller <chrisbfeller@...>
Subject: [bolger] Re: clam skiff?
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:32 PM
I would definitely recommend using off the shelf lumber yard plywood.
My 15 year old Bolger 10 1/2 pointy skiff is still going strong.
It's made of AC exterior plywood. I think if you take care of it you
could easily get 10 years of use out of it. I am sure that the best
materials will give you a longer life however I also believe that
standard materials will survive much longer than most peoples interest
in any given boat. This is certainly true of me. I find I want a new
boat every few years.
Also when Harold Payson built the prototype he used cheap materials too.
Chris Feller
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "john_reinhagen"
<john_reinhagen@...>
wrote:
>
> I am planning my first boat building project and have found
> myself in a dilema. I find the designs for Pilgrim's Pride and Humble
> Peasant from Shoestring Shipyard appealing, but, I have my
> reservations aboat them as well.
> I have not had much experience in flat bottom boats and question
> whether I should spend the time and money to build them if my family
> and I might out grow them fairly quickly. While reading boats with an
> open mind, I came across clam skiff. It would seem to be a much
> simpler build. If I can keep time and labor costs down I could build
> clam skiff to meet our needs for the next five years or so. I could
> then use the time and experience gained to build a hull for our
> future needs.
> There is, naturaly, a fly in the ointment. Mr Bolger specifies a
> one inch botom with a shoe sheathed in fiberglass for clam skiff. If
> I were to build it in bs 1088 meranti plywood, it would become quite
> expensive for a project of limited ambition. I would like to know if
> less expensive materials might be adequate for this project.
> I will use the boat to take my daughter on local ponds and lakes.
> I would also like to take my family out for short trips in fair
> weather on Narragansett and Buzzards Bays. It will spend most of its
> life on a trailer outside. I would like to power it with an outboard
> of less than twenty horse power. Any feed back will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
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I would definitely recommend using off the shelf lumber yard plywood.
My 15 year old Bolger 10 1/2 pointy skiff is still going strong.
It's made of AC exterior plywood. I think if you take care of it you
could easily get 10 years of use out of it. I am sure that the best
materials will give you a longer life however I also believe that
standard materials will survive much longer than most peoples interest
in any given boat. This is certainly true of me. I find I want a new
boat every few years.
Also when Harold Payson built the prototype he used cheap materials too.
Chris Feller
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "john_reinhagen" <john_reinhagen@...>
wrote:
My 15 year old Bolger 10 1/2 pointy skiff is still going strong.
It's made of AC exterior plywood. I think if you take care of it you
could easily get 10 years of use out of it. I am sure that the best
materials will give you a longer life however I also believe that
standard materials will survive much longer than most peoples interest
in any given boat. This is certainly true of me. I find I want a new
boat every few years.
Also when Harold Payson built the prototype he used cheap materials too.
Chris Feller
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "john_reinhagen" <john_reinhagen@...>
wrote:
>
> I am planning my first boat building project and have found
> myself in a dilema. I find the designs for Pilgrim's Pride and Humble
> Peasant from Shoestring Shipyard appealing, but, I have my
> reservations aboat them as well.
> I have not had much experience in flat bottom boats and question
> whether I should spend the time and money to build them if my family
> and I might out grow them fairly quickly. While reading boats with an
> open mind, I came across clam skiff. It would seem to be a much
> simpler build. If I can keep time and labor costs down I could build
> clam skiff to meet our needs for the next five years or so. I could
> then use the time and experience gained to build a hull for our
> future needs.
> There is, naturaly, a fly in the ointment. Mr Bolger specifies a
> one inch botom with a shoe sheathed in fiberglass for clam skiff. If
> I were to build it in bs 1088 meranti plywood, it would become quite
> expensive for a project of limited ambition. I would like to know if
> less expensive materials might be adequate for this project.
> I will use the boat to take my daughter on local ponds and lakes.
> I would also like to take my family out for short trips in fair
> weather on Narragansett and Buzzards Bays. It will spend most of its
> life on a trailer outside. I would like to power it with an outboard
> of less than twenty horse power. Any feed back will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
I am in the midst of the 18' Workskiff, and started with 1/2" ACX for
the transom, as it is many layers thick. Then found that Downes and
Reader in Stoughton carries 1/2" marine grade ply in stock for not
much more money. It is a pleasure to work with and I have not found a
void yet. In either case, I would recommend glassing the exterior and
giving the inside several coats of resin (glass it if you can afford
to.)
Be careful in Buzzards Bay, it can get nasty there. Narraganset is a
safer bet. The flat bottom skiff can be a liability in a steep chop. I
went with the 18 footer for a little more weight under me when fishing.
See you on the water.
David Jost
the transom, as it is many layers thick. Then found that Downes and
Reader in Stoughton carries 1/2" marine grade ply in stock for not
much more money. It is a pleasure to work with and I have not found a
void yet. In either case, I would recommend glassing the exterior and
giving the inside several coats of resin (glass it if you can afford
to.)
Be careful in Buzzards Bay, it can get nasty there. Narraganset is a
safer bet. The flat bottom skiff can be a liability in a steep chop. I
went with the 18 footer for a little more weight under me when fishing.
See you on the water.
David Jost
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:09 AM, john_reinhagen
<john_reinhagen@...> wrote:
appropriate. If it was me, I would be using the cheap 5 ply CDX
plywood they sell at Home Depot. A "five year horizon" sounds easily
achievable.
<john_reinhagen@...> wrote:
> open mind, I came across clam skiff. It would seem to be a muchClam Skiff is a work boat, and work boat materials are entirely
> simpler build. If I can keep time and labor costs down I could build
> clam skiff to meet our needs for the next five years or so.
appropriate. If it was me, I would be using the cheap 5 ply CDX
plywood they sell at Home Depot. A "five year horizon" sounds easily
achievable.
Well...
Certainly, you could put that hull down in two layers, the inner layer
being some decent ACX plywood, the outer being your BS 1088. As long as
you encapsulate the inner layer w/Fiberglass & maybe some non-skid where
appropriate, it should last quite well.
PCB says in one of his books that they built the original clam skiff in
just a couple of days, with off-the-shelf materials, if I recall
correctly. I'll look it up when I get home and comment further if
there's more or if I am mistaken.
--Gabriel
john_reinhagen wrote:
Certainly, you could put that hull down in two layers, the inner layer
being some decent ACX plywood, the outer being your BS 1088. As long as
you encapsulate the inner layer w/Fiberglass & maybe some non-skid where
appropriate, it should last quite well.
PCB says in one of his books that they built the original clam skiff in
just a couple of days, with off-the-shelf materials, if I recall
correctly. I'll look it up when I get home and comment further if
there's more or if I am mistaken.
--Gabriel
john_reinhagen wrote:
>
> I am planning my first boat building project and have found
> myself in a dilema. I find the designs for Pilgrim's Pride and Humble
> Peasant from Shoestring Shipyard appealing, but, I have my
> reservations aboat them as well.
> I have not had much experience in flat bottom boats and question
> whether I should spend the time and money to build them if my family
> and I might out grow them fairly quickly. While reading boats with an
> open mind, I came across clam skiff. It would seem to be a much
> simpler build. If I can keep time and labor costs down I could build
> clam skiff to meet our needs for the next five years or so. I could
> then use the time and experience gained to build a hull for our
> future needs.
> There is, naturaly, a fly in the ointment. Mr Bolger specifies a
> one inch botom with a shoe sheathed in fiberglass for clam skiff. If
> I were to build it in bs 1088 meranti plywood, it would become quite
> expensive for a project of limited ambition. I would like to know if
> less expensive materials might be adequate for this project.
> I will use the boat to take my daughter on local ponds and lakes.
> I would also like to take my family out for short trips in fair
> weather on Narragansett and Buzzards Bays. It will spend most of its
> life on a trailer outside. I would like to power it with an outboard
> of less than twenty horse power. Any feed back will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
>
There's no reason why you couldn't use exterior ply for this project -- especially if you are going to fiberglas the bottom (which I highly recommend) and store it on a trailer.
---- john_reinhagen <john_reinhagen@...> wrote:
---- john_reinhagen <john_reinhagen@...> wrote:
> I am planning my first boat building project and have found
> myself in a dilema. I find the designs for Pilgrim's Pride and Humble
> Peasant from Shoestring Shipyard appealing, but, I have my
> reservations aboat them as well.
> I have not had much experience in flat bottom boats and question
> whether I should spend the time and money to build them if my family
> and I might out grow them fairly quickly. While reading boats with an
> open mind, I came across clam skiff. It would seem to be a much
> simpler build. If I can keep time and labor costs down I could build
> clam skiff to meet our needs for the next five years or so. I could
> then use the time and experience gained to build a hull for our
> future needs.
> There is, naturaly, a fly in the ointment. Mr Bolger specifies a
> one inch botom with a shoe sheathed in fiberglass for clam skiff. If
> I were to build it in bs 1088 meranti plywood, it would become quite
> expensive for a project of limited ambition. I would like to know if
> less expensive materials might be adequate for this project.
> I will use the boat to take my daughter on local ponds and lakes.
> I would also like to take my family out for short trips in fair
> weather on Narragansett and Buzzards Bays. It will spend most of its
> life on a trailer outside. I would like to power it with an outboard
> of less than twenty horse power. Any feed back will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
>
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I am planning my first boat building project and have found
myself in a dilema. I find the designs for Pilgrim's Pride and Humble
Peasant from Shoestring Shipyard appealing, but, I have my
reservations aboat them as well.
I have not had much experience in flat bottom boats and question
whether I should spend the time and money to build them if my family
and I might out grow them fairly quickly. While reading boats with an
open mind, I came across clam skiff. It would seem to be a much
simpler build. If I can keep time and labor costs down I could build
clam skiff to meet our needs for the next five years or so. I could
then use the time and experience gained to build a hull for our
future needs.
There is, naturaly, a fly in the ointment. Mr Bolger specifies a
one inch botom with a shoe sheathed in fiberglass for clam skiff. If
I were to build it in bs 1088 meranti plywood, it would become quite
expensive for a project of limited ambition. I would like to know if
less expensive materials might be adequate for this project.
I will use the boat to take my daughter on local ponds and lakes.
I would also like to take my family out for short trips in fair
weather on Narragansett and Buzzards Bays. It will spend most of its
life on a trailer outside. I would like to power it with an outboard
of less than twenty horse power. Any feed back will be appreciated.
Thanks,
John
myself in a dilema. I find the designs for Pilgrim's Pride and Humble
Peasant from Shoestring Shipyard appealing, but, I have my
reservations aboat them as well.
I have not had much experience in flat bottom boats and question
whether I should spend the time and money to build them if my family
and I might out grow them fairly quickly. While reading boats with an
open mind, I came across clam skiff. It would seem to be a much
simpler build. If I can keep time and labor costs down I could build
clam skiff to meet our needs for the next five years or so. I could
then use the time and experience gained to build a hull for our
future needs.
There is, naturaly, a fly in the ointment. Mr Bolger specifies a
one inch botom with a shoe sheathed in fiberglass for clam skiff. If
I were to build it in bs 1088 meranti plywood, it would become quite
expensive for a project of limited ambition. I would like to know if
less expensive materials might be adequate for this project.
I will use the boat to take my daughter on local ponds and lakes.
I would also like to take my family out for short trips in fair
weather on Narragansett and Buzzards Bays. It will spend most of its
life on a trailer outside. I would like to power it with an outboard
of less than twenty horse power. Any feed back will be appreciated.
Thanks,
John