Re: AS29 Repower- Options?
Bob, Derek, thanks much for the suggestions and the links. I've been
interested in electric final drive for quite a while, and it seems to
be a viable proposition.
And thanks again, Bob, for the "Doelfins" idea. :-)
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AS29 Weather helm:
Michael, you *do* have a problem there... My AS29 was built to plan,
and to windward I have very neutral helm; so there is something about
your boat or trim specifically that is giving you the problem.
For going to windward, I peak up the gaff pretty hard, and there is a
distinct wrinkle in the mainsail (when the sail is not full), which
tends to reduce twist. The other thing you can try, which I do
close-reaching and farther off, is to set the vang to the lee rail (as
shown on the plans, but mine is double purchase), even to windward,
and haul it down hard. This really reduces twist, and I can get the
tell-tales at top, middle, and bottom of the sail all showing good
trim at the same time. If you can reduce twist, you can ease the boom
quite a ways out, so there will be less steering effect from having it
tight-in.
I know there are at least a couple AS29's that have the hard-top and
solar panel set-up; I wonder if the other one(s) are having the same
weather helm problem you are? Interested, as I would like the weather
protection also.
John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "loosemoosefilmworks"
<loosemoosefilmworks@...> wrote:
interested in electric final drive for quite a while, and it seems to
be a viable proposition.
And thanks again, Bob, for the "Doelfins" idea. :-)
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AS29 Weather helm:
Michael, you *do* have a problem there... My AS29 was built to plan,
and to windward I have very neutral helm; so there is something about
your boat or trim specifically that is giving you the problem.
For going to windward, I peak up the gaff pretty hard, and there is a
distinct wrinkle in the mainsail (when the sail is not full), which
tends to reduce twist. The other thing you can try, which I do
close-reaching and farther off, is to set the vang to the lee rail (as
shown on the plans, but mine is double purchase), even to windward,
and haul it down hard. This really reduces twist, and I can get the
tell-tales at top, middle, and bottom of the sail all showing good
trim at the same time. If you can reduce twist, you can ease the boom
quite a ways out, so there will be less steering effect from having it
tight-in.
I know there are at least a couple AS29's that have the hard-top and
solar panel set-up; I wonder if the other one(s) are having the same
weather helm problem you are? Interested, as I would like the weather
protection also.
John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "loosemoosefilmworks"
<loosemoosefilmworks@...> wrote:
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> I built my current electric drive out of off the shelf golf cart
> parts. The total price for a system that has worked very well for five
> years was less than $1000.(snip)
> I'm thinking I've got too much twist in the main. I also have a lotIt is hard to diagnose via email, but excess windage aft would tend to
> of windage aft because of the hard bimini/pilothouse, solar panels and
> wind generator all mounted just forward of the mizzen.
cause a problem similar to the problem you describe. I too recommend
asking PB&F for advice. I am guessing you either need more lateral
plane aft, or sail area forward. Using the spinnaker might do the
trick.
See:
http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/3266168457/
Have you consulted the designer, and if so what did he have to say?
paul
paul
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Michael Wagner <willers32@...> wrote:
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> Tried furling the mizzen, she still rounds up. Tried reefing the
main, she still rounds up. Tried lifting the board, no luck. Even
going to windward, there is so much weather helm, I have to keep the
tiller at about 45 degrees and that slows the boat down to a crawl.
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> I'm thinking I've got too much twist in the main. I also have a lot
of windage aft because of the hard bimini/pilothouse, solar panels and
wind generator all mounted just forward of the mizzen.
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> I'm thinking of putting a big junk sail on the mainmast instead of
the gaff. That will move the CE forward and I'll be able to control
the twist in the sail.
>
> Ideas? suggestions?
> --- On Sat, 2/7/09, lancefgunderson <lancefgunderson@...> wrote:
> From: lancefgunderson <lancefgunderson@...>
> Subject: [bolger] Re: AS29 Repower- Options?
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
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I built my current electric drive out of off the shelf golf cart
parts. The total price for a system that has worked very well for five
years was less than $1000.
On the Loose Moose design or AS29 I be more inclined to go with a
shaft and prop solution rather than an E-Pod sort. There are many
reasons for this but the first and foremost is cost followed by the
fact that a motor connected to a shaft is pretty darn simple and
anyone able to build his own Bolger boat is plenty handy enough to
keep it running.
If you are interested in going the DIY/golf cart route you can get a
pretty complete kit for right around $1000 from Thunderstruck
http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/sailboatkit.htmor if you want to step
up to the next level Electric Yachthttp://www.electricyacht.com/
makes and awesome drop in unit that uses a real state of the art
controller designed for a boats electric propulsion needs...Point of
fact is I'm installing one of the Electric Yacht systems in my boat
this week and am designing it into the next Loose Moose ( a Sharpie a
bit bigger than LM2 but not a Bolger design) which I will be building
next year.
I'd also add a bit of a keelet to protect the prop...Which would also
have the side effect of solving your problems with the weather helm
that the Loose Moose and AS29 are prone to due to the rather small
size of their respective rudders. While Sheila and I were in The
Canaries we talked with Phil about solving the weather helm problem
and one of his suggestions was the keelet. As it happens we did not
use the keelet but instead added a a pair of small vertical wings to
the wing on the rudder which made the handling of LM2 pretty close to
perfect. FYI the winglets we used were simply outboard Doelfins (
http://www.davisnet.com/Marine/products/list_marine.asp?grp=m18-2)
that we bolted on...a simple and cheap solution!
Hope this helps...
Bob
http://boatbits.blogspot.com/
parts. The total price for a system that has worked very well for five
years was less than $1000.
On the Loose Moose design or AS29 I be more inclined to go with a
shaft and prop solution rather than an E-Pod sort. There are many
reasons for this but the first and foremost is cost followed by the
fact that a motor connected to a shaft is pretty darn simple and
anyone able to build his own Bolger boat is plenty handy enough to
keep it running.
If you are interested in going the DIY/golf cart route you can get a
pretty complete kit for right around $1000 from Thunderstruck
http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/sailboatkit.htmor if you want to step
up to the next level Electric Yachthttp://www.electricyacht.com/
makes and awesome drop in unit that uses a real state of the art
controller designed for a boats electric propulsion needs...Point of
fact is I'm installing one of the Electric Yacht systems in my boat
this week and am designing it into the next Loose Moose ( a Sharpie a
bit bigger than LM2 but not a Bolger design) which I will be building
next year.
I'd also add a bit of a keelet to protect the prop...Which would also
have the side effect of solving your problems with the weather helm
that the Loose Moose and AS29 are prone to due to the rather small
size of their respective rudders. While Sheila and I were in The
Canaries we talked with Phil about solving the weather helm problem
and one of his suggestions was the keelet. As it happens we did not
use the keelet but instead added a a pair of small vertical wings to
the wing on the rudder which made the handling of LM2 pretty close to
perfect. FYI the winglets we used were simply outboard Doelfins (
http://www.davisnet.com/Marine/products/list_marine.asp?grp=m18-2)
that we bolted on...a simple and cheap solution!
Hope this helps...
Bob
http://boatbits.blogspot.com/
Hi Derek, Good thinking you have going on there, as well as link to good web site, thanks, Mike
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, djdecker2002 <djdecker2002@...> wrote:
> From: djdecker2002 <djdecker2002@...>
> Subject: [bolger] Re: AS29 Repower- Options?
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 5:44 AM
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "freshairfiend"
> <freshairfiend@...> wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > Can you describe, at least in general terms, how you
> would go about
> > putting electric final drive on the LM2 or the AS29?
> Some sort of
> > electric outboard, or would you move the propulsive
> gear inboard? 'X'
> > battery capacity for 'Y' range? A genset for
> getting up longer rivers
> > and canals?
>
> I'm not Bob, and my Bolger Cruising Boat is in the
> dream stage, but if
> I were to consider converting an AS29, or another sailing
> vessel that
> used an outboard for auxiliary power, to electric drive
> I'd consider
> looking at the E-Pods from RE-E-Power at
> <http://re-e-power.com/>
>
> These are self-contained units that can be attached to the
> outside of
> the hull, and used for propulsion, or for electrical
> generation while
> under sail. You'd have to pull the boat to install
> these, but you'd
> have to do that in any case if converting to inboard
> propulsion.
>
> I suspect a sufficiently clever individual could arrange to
> mount one
> off the stern in an outboard-like arrangement, so the pod
> could be
> raised if not required for propulsion or generation, or for
> maintenance after you hit that log. This would power the
> boat in the
> manner most similar to what the designer intended. I
> don't know if
> this has ever been done, though.
>
> -Derek
>
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Tried furling the mizzen, she still rounds up. Tried reefing the main, she still rounds up. Tried lifting the board, no luck. Even going to windward, there is so much weather helm, I have to keep the tiller at about 45 degrees and that slows the boat down to a crawl.
I'm thinking I've got too much twist in the main. I also have a lot of windage aft because of the hard bimini/pilothouse, solar panels and wind generator all mounted just forward of the mizzen.
I'm thinking of putting a big junk sail on the mainmast instead of the gaff. That will move the CE forward and I'll be able to control the twist in the sail.
Ideas? suggestions?
I'm thinking I've got too much twist in the main. I also have a lot of windage aft because of the hard bimini/pilothouse, solar panels and wind generator all mounted just forward of the mizzen.
I'm thinking of putting a big junk sail on the mainmast instead of the gaff. That will move the CE forward and I'll be able to control the twist in the sail.
Ideas? suggestions?
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, lancefgunderson <lancefgunderson@...> wrote:
From: lancefgunderson <lancefgunderson@...>
Subject: [bolger] Re: AS29 Repower- Options?
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 10:22 PM
--- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> >sometimes have trouble with getting the boat to run downwind.
> >She always tries to round up on me, and generates a lot of weather
helm. Any ideas?
>
> Cat Yawl rigs like the AS-29, have a big main sail forward and a small
> mizzen sail hanging off the stern transom.
> The standard advice when you have trouble pointing downwind is to furl
> the mizzen sail.
> This shifts the center of the sail area forward which, hopefully,
> should help the problem.
>
If the mizzen is sheeted in too tight she won't bear off; slacken it.
Also raise your centerboard. Cat yawls usually have the opposite
problem..they don't like to go to windward. I've never had a problem
getting them to go downwind. When under power in a fresh breeze I've
had trouble getting them to round up. The windage on that big mast is
considerable.
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RE-E-POWER have an interesting Yahoo!Group named
RE-E-POWER_World_Forum. This group deserves the attention of any one
interested by the electric repowering of a boat.
jcjglt
RE-E-POWER_World_Forum. This group deserves the attention of any one
interested by the electric repowering of a boat.
jcjglt
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "djdecker2002" <djdecker2002@...> wrote:
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> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "freshairfiend" <freshairfiend@> wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > Can you describe, at least in general terms, how you would go about
> > putting electric final drive on the LM2 or the AS29? Some sort of
> > electric outboard, or would you move the propulsive gear inboard? 'X'
> > battery capacity for 'Y' range? A genset for getting up longer rivers
> > and canals?
>
> I'm not Bob, and my Bolger Cruising Boat is in the dream stage, but if
> I were to consider converting an AS29, or another sailing vessel that
> used an outboard for auxiliary power, to electric drive I'd consider
> looking at the E-Pods from RE-E-Power at <http://re-e-power.com/>
>
> These are self-contained units that can be attached to the outside of
> the hull, and used for propulsion, or for electrical generation while
> under sail. You'd have to pull the boat to install these, but you'd
> have to do that in any case if converting to inboard propulsion.
>
> I suspect a sufficiently clever individual could arrange to mount one
> off the stern in an outboard-like arrangement, so the pod could be
> raised if not required for propulsion or generation, or for
> maintenance after you hit that log. This would power the boat in the
> manner most similar to what the designer intended. I don't know if
> this has ever been done, though.
>
> -Derek
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "freshairfiend" <freshairfiend@...> wrote:
I were to consider converting an AS29, or another sailing vessel that
used an outboard for auxiliary power, to electric drive I'd consider
looking at the E-Pods from RE-E-Power at <http://re-e-power.com/>
These are self-contained units that can be attached to the outside of
the hull, and used for propulsion, or for electrical generation while
under sail. You'd have to pull the boat to install these, but you'd
have to do that in any case if converting to inboard propulsion.
I suspect a sufficiently clever individual could arrange to mount one
off the stern in an outboard-like arrangement, so the pod could be
raised if not required for propulsion or generation, or for
maintenance after you hit that log. This would power the boat in the
manner most similar to what the designer intended. I don't know if
this has ever been done, though.
-Derek
>I'm not Bob, and my Bolger Cruising Boat is in the dream stage, but if
> Bob,
>
> Can you describe, at least in general terms, how you would go about
> putting electric final drive on the LM2 or the AS29? Some sort of
> electric outboard, or would you move the propulsive gear inboard? 'X'
> battery capacity for 'Y' range? A genset for getting up longer rivers
> and canals?
I were to consider converting an AS29, or another sailing vessel that
used an outboard for auxiliary power, to electric drive I'd consider
looking at the E-Pods from RE-E-Power at <http://re-e-power.com/>
These are self-contained units that can be attached to the outside of
the hull, and used for propulsion, or for electrical generation while
under sail. You'd have to pull the boat to install these, but you'd
have to do that in any case if converting to inboard propulsion.
I suspect a sufficiently clever individual could arrange to mount one
off the stern in an outboard-like arrangement, so the pod could be
raised if not required for propulsion or generation, or for
maintenance after you hit that log. This would power the boat in the
manner most similar to what the designer intended. I don't know if
this has ever been done, though.
-Derek
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
Also raise your centerboard. Cat yawls usually have the opposite
problem..they don't like to go to windward. I've never had a problem
getting them to go downwind. When under power in a fresh breeze I've
had trouble getting them to round up. The windage on that big mast is
considerable.
>helm. Any ideas?
> >sometimes have trouble with getting the boat to run downwind.
> >She always tries to round up on me, and generates a lot of weather
>If the mizzen is sheeted in too tight she won't bear off; slacken it.
> Cat Yawl rigs like the AS-29, have a big main sail forward and a small
> mizzen sail hanging off the stern transom.
> The standard advice when you have trouble pointing downwind is to furl
> the mizzen sail.
> This shifts the center of the sail area forward which, hopefully,
> should help the problem.
>
Also raise your centerboard. Cat yawls usually have the opposite
problem..they don't like to go to windward. I've never had a problem
getting them to go downwind. When under power in a fresh breeze I've
had trouble getting them to round up. The windage on that big mast is
considerable.
Bob,
Can you describe, at least in general terms, how you would go about
putting electric final drive on the LM2 or the AS29? Some sort of
electric outboard, or would you move the propulsive gear inboard? 'X'
battery capacity for 'Y' range? A genset for getting up longer rivers
and canals?
John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "loosemoosefilmworks"
<loosemoosefilmworks@...> wrote:
Can you describe, at least in general terms, how you would go about
putting electric final drive on the LM2 or the AS29? Some sort of
electric outboard, or would you move the propulsive gear inboard? 'X'
battery capacity for 'Y' range? A genset for getting up longer rivers
and canals?
John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "loosemoosefilmworks"
<loosemoosefilmworks@...> wrote:
>
> We had been planning to get rid of the outboard and were beginning to
> look into an electric propulsion system for Loose Moose 2...Sadly we
> never got around to it before we lost LM2.
>
> We have been very happy with our current experiments with electric
> propulsion on our current boat and now have five years of experience
> and it works plus it is a lot cheaper than a four stroke outboard!
We had been planning to get rid of the outboard and were beginning to
look into an electric propulsion system for Loose Moose 2...Sadly we
never got around to it before we lost LM2.
We have been very happy with our current experiments with electric
propulsion on our current boat and now have five years of experience
and it works plus it is a lot cheaper than a four stroke outboard!
On the downwind problems with the AS29 a very simple solution is to
use the flat cut spinnaker that Phil drew for it or even easier buy a
small used ( ($100) jib with a wire luff at Bacons or other used sail
broker and simply set it flying. we have some 5000 miles of downwind
sailing on LM2 and the Jib made it super easy. The only cost involved
it a block a halyard and a couple of sheets...
Bob
http://boatbits.blogspot.com/
look into an electric propulsion system for Loose Moose 2...Sadly we
never got around to it before we lost LM2.
We have been very happy with our current experiments with electric
propulsion on our current boat and now have five years of experience
and it works plus it is a lot cheaper than a four stroke outboard!
On the downwind problems with the AS29 a very simple solution is to
use the flat cut spinnaker that Phil drew for it or even easier buy a
small used ( ($100) jib with a wire luff at Bacons or other used sail
broker and simply set it flying. we have some 5000 miles of downwind
sailing on LM2 and the Jib made it super easy. The only cost involved
it a block a halyard and a couple of sheets...
Bob
http://boatbits.blogspot.com/
Yamaha has a second factory in China. The OB's are manufactured under the name Parsun.
They are less expensive than Yamaha named OB' ex 9.9hp $1399 USDhttp://www.worldoutboards.com/
They are less expensive than Yamaha named OB' ex 9.9hp $1399 USDhttp://www.worldoutboards.com/
Yes, the AS29 is a real handful off-wind. Dropping the mizzen only
helps a little; Short of a re-rig, I think the only real "solution"
would be to add the single-luff spinnaker shown on the plans, bringing
the center of effort more in line with the hull.
I've sometimes wondered if re-rigging as a balanced lug, with a larger
mizzen to preserve the windward center of effort location, would help
the AS29's downwind control. I think it would, but I haven't tried it.
There's a couple other down-wind (or quartering wave under power)
issues with the AS29; the rudder is very shallow, and perhaps a bit
small, so it tends to get caught in the circular internal flow of the
wave at the surface, and lose power. And the flat bottom/hard chine
aft sections tend to pick up buoyancy from oncoming quartering waves
at the edge of the hull, so she rolls and swings around more easily
than if the buoyancy was more at the centerline of the hull (as in a
V-bottom).
@Gene:
My 9.9 is a 1992 model with high hours, used in salt water, and has
serious corrosion issues. When I pulled the lower unit to see why it
wasn't pumping water, the water tube just fell out; the mounting had
corroded away... When we totted up the cost for parts to rebuild, it
came to over $1500, + time; not worth it.
helps a little; Short of a re-rig, I think the only real "solution"
would be to add the single-luff spinnaker shown on the plans, bringing
the center of effort more in line with the hull.
I've sometimes wondered if re-rigging as a balanced lug, with a larger
mizzen to preserve the windward center of effort location, would help
the AS29's downwind control. I think it would, but I haven't tried it.
There's a couple other down-wind (or quartering wave under power)
issues with the AS29; the rudder is very shallow, and perhaps a bit
small, so it tends to get caught in the circular internal flow of the
wave at the surface, and lose power. And the flat bottom/hard chine
aft sections tend to pick up buoyancy from oncoming quartering waves
at the edge of the hull, so she rolls and swings around more easily
than if the buoyancy was more at the centerline of the hull (as in a
V-bottom).
@Gene:
My 9.9 is a 1992 model with high hours, used in salt water, and has
serious corrosion issues. When I pulled the lower unit to see why it
wasn't pumping water, the water tube just fell out; the mounting had
corroded away... When we totted up the cost for parts to rebuild, it
came to over $1500, + time; not worth it.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> >sometimes have trouble with getting the boat to run downwind.
> >She always tries to round up on me, and generates a lot of weather
helm. Any ideas?
>
> Cat Yawl rigs like the AS-29, have a big main sail forward and a small
> mizzen sail hanging off the stern transom.
> The standard advice when you have trouble pointing downwind is to furl
> the mizzen sail.
> This shifts the center of the sail area forward which, hopefully,
> should help the problem.
>
>sometimes have trouble with getting the boat to run downwind.Cat Yawl rigs like the AS-29, have a big main sail forward and a small
>She always tries to round up on me, and generates a lot of weather helm. Any ideas?
mizzen sail hanging off the stern transom.
The standard advice when you have trouble pointing downwind is to furl
the mizzen sail.
This shifts the center of the sail area forward which, hopefully,
should help the problem.
Michael,
Well first thought was pull up the boards but I think that might
amplify your problem. How about jibing the sails so they are pulling
on the opposite side which would tend to turn the boat the other
direction. Althought that is a dumb suggestion, how do I know what
side the sails are on in the first place... Are you talking dead
down wind or off to the side somewhat?
Sincerely,
Gene T.
Well first thought was pull up the boards but I think that might
amplify your problem. How about jibing the sails so they are pulling
on the opposite side which would tend to turn the boat the other
direction. Althought that is a dumb suggestion, how do I know what
side the sails are on in the first place... Are you talking dead
down wind or off to the side somewhat?
Sincerely,
Gene T.
On 7 Feb, 2009, at 8:17 AM, Michael Wagner wrote:
> I have an AS-29.
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> I have an old (1991) Yamaha 9.9. It still runs, but it is in need
> of an overhaul. It smokes a little, is sometimes hard to start,
> etc. I doubt I will have the $ to replace it, so we just nurse it
> along. If I do replace it, it will probably be with a new 9.9.
>
> I sometimes have trouble with getting the boat to run downwind. She
> always tries to round up on me, and generates a lot of weather
> helm. Any ideas?
>
> --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Gene Tehansky <goldranger02-boats@...>
> wrote:
> From: Gene Tehansky <goldranger02-boats@...>
> Subject: Re: [bolger] AS29 Repower- Options?
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 6:45 PM
>
> Did you just wear it out?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Gene T.
>
> On 6 Feb, 2009, at 6:38 PM, freshairfiend wrote:
>
> > Howdy all,
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I have an AS-29.
I have an old (1991) Yamaha 9.9. It still runs, but it is in need of an overhaul. It smokes a little, is sometimes hard to start, etc. I doubt I will have the $ to replace it, so we just nurse it along. If I do replace it, it will probably be with a new 9.9.
I sometimes have trouble with getting the boat to run downwind. She always tries to round up on me, and generates a lot of weather helm. Any ideas?
I have an old (1991) Yamaha 9.9. It still runs, but it is in need of an overhaul. It smokes a little, is sometimes hard to start, etc. I doubt I will have the $ to replace it, so we just nurse it along. If I do replace it, it will probably be with a new 9.9.
I sometimes have trouble with getting the boat to run downwind. She always tries to round up on me, and generates a lot of weather helm. Any ideas?
--- On Fri, 2/6/09, Gene Tehansky <goldranger02-boats@...> wrote:
From: Gene Tehansky <goldranger02-boats@...>
Subject: Re: [bolger] AS29 Repower- Options?
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 6:45 PM
Did you just wear it out?
Sincerely,
Gene T.
On 6 Feb, 2009, at 6:38 PM, freshairfiend wrote:
> Howdy all,
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> I need to get a new engine to replace the T9.9 Yamaha on my AS29. The
> obvious course is to replace it with another of the same, but before
> laying out the cash, I'm wondering if anyone here has used a different
> engine on the AS29, and how it worked out- speed, fuel consumption,
> reliability, motoring into strong headwinds, etc.
>
> Or, has everyone just used the Yamaha... :-) Thanks.
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Did you just wear it out?
Sincerely,
Gene T.
Sincerely,
Gene T.
On 6 Feb, 2009, at 6:38 PM, freshairfiend wrote:
> Howdy all,
>
> I need to get a new engine to replace the T9.9 Yamaha on my AS29. The
> obvious course is to replace it with another of the same, but before
> laying out the cash, I'm wondering if anyone here has used a different
> engine on the AS29, and how it worked out- speed, fuel consumption,
> reliability, motoring into strong headwinds, etc.
>
> Or, has everyone just used the Yamaha... :-) Thanks.
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Howdy all,
I need to get a new engine to replace the T9.9 Yamaha on my AS29. The
obvious course is to replace it with another of the same, but before
laying out the cash, I'm wondering if anyone here has used a different
engine on the AS29, and how it worked out- speed, fuel consumption,
reliability, motoring into strong headwinds, etc.
Or, has everyone just used the Yamaha... :-) Thanks.
I need to get a new engine to replace the T9.9 Yamaha on my AS29. The
obvious course is to replace it with another of the same, but before
laying out the cash, I'm wondering if anyone here has used a different
engine on the AS29, and how it worked out- speed, fuel consumption,
reliability, motoring into strong headwinds, etc.
Or, has everyone just used the Yamaha... :-) Thanks.