Re: Project Updates
Hi Harry,
I didn't go for Crystal, attractive as she is, because I thought the
flat bottom of this design would be easier on the beach for camping.
Besides, I already had the plans for Gyspy.
It wouldn't be hard to rig it to sail. I purposely left sufficient
framing in the transom to take rudder mounting hardware (there's a
hidden motor well that could be exposed, too), and the gunwales were
cut vertical on their outboard sides, which would allow laminating a
couple of pieces on to make a lee daggerboard slot right at the point
of maximum beam (or just slightly forward). The bulkhead at the
forward end of the cockpit is framed strongly enough to take the load
from a mast partner on deck, and a mast step could be glued on to the
bottom panel up against this bulkhead. This would put the mast
somewhat aft of its position in the original design, but if a
balanced lug were used instead of the original leg-o-mutton, it could
work out. I suspect it would sail quite well, and by using a lee
daggerboard the rowing wouldn't be spoiled by an underwater slot.
The above was actually my plan B, after the plan A I just responded
to Gary about, but I eventually decided that I really just wanted a
good fishing and camping rowboat that would perform well, allow me to
try a sliding seat, and had dry storage. I can always try the
sailing rig later.
Standing around with a cold one (or two) and a cigar, I have also
postulated taking this stretched version and scaling it up all around
by 50%, adding Birdwatcher topsides and raised deck, Chinese lug,
and, well, you can see how this quickly gets away...
Jon
> As always your work is admirable. The stretched Gypsy looks reallygood,
> how hard do you think it would be to put a mast and sail back onit? Out
> of curiosity why didn't you go with Crystal?Thanks very much!
I didn't go for Crystal, attractive as she is, because I thought the
flat bottom of this design would be easier on the beach for camping.
Besides, I already had the plans for Gyspy.
It wouldn't be hard to rig it to sail. I purposely left sufficient
framing in the transom to take rudder mounting hardware (there's a
hidden motor well that could be exposed, too), and the gunwales were
cut vertical on their outboard sides, which would allow laminating a
couple of pieces on to make a lee daggerboard slot right at the point
of maximum beam (or just slightly forward). The bulkhead at the
forward end of the cockpit is framed strongly enough to take the load
from a mast partner on deck, and a mast step could be glued on to the
bottom panel up against this bulkhead. This would put the mast
somewhat aft of its position in the original design, but if a
balanced lug were used instead of the original leg-o-mutton, it could
work out. I suspect it would sail quite well, and by using a lee
daggerboard the rowing wouldn't be spoiled by an underwater slot.
The above was actually my plan B, after the plan A I just responded
to Gary about, but I eventually decided that I really just wanted a
good fishing and camping rowboat that would perform well, allow me to
try a sliding seat, and had dry storage. I can always try the
sailing rig later.
Standing around with a cold one (or two) and a cigar, I have also
postulated taking this stretched version and scaling it up all around
by 50%, adding Birdwatcher topsides and raised deck, Chinese lug,
and, well, you can see how this quickly gets away...
Jon
Hi Gary,
I originally thought about putting the balanced lug from Oughtred's
Willy Boat on it, with the mast just forward of Cartopper's
centerboard, which would be mounted just ahead of the forward cockpit
bulkhead, and using Cartopper's rudder. In theory it should all
balance if you get it just right, and I thought it might make a
competitive solo EC boat.
I'm with you that there's nothing like a long, lean, low-sided boat.
Oar, sail, or power, they all look good to me.
Jon
> Very nice, Jon. Particularly like the stretched Gypsy. My 30-footer,Thanks!
> which Bruce just did one of his excellent isometric series on, is
> basically a Gypsy doubled in length and not quite doubled in width.
> I've always wondered what one in between would look like. Boy, am I a
> sucker for long, lean, low-sided boats. Of course, yours is for
> rowing, but I wonder how it would sail . . .
I originally thought about putting the balanced lug from Oughtred's
Willy Boat on it, with the mast just forward of Cartopper's
centerboard, which would be mounted just ahead of the forward cockpit
bulkhead, and using Cartopper's rudder. In theory it should all
balance if you get it just right, and I thought it might make a
competitive solo EC boat.
I'm with you that there's nothing like a long, lean, low-sided boat.
Oar, sail, or power, they all look good to me.
Jon
Jon
As always your work is admirable. The stretched Gypsy looks really good,
how hard do you think it would be to put a mast and sail back on it? Out
of curiosity why didn't you go with Crystal?
HJ
adventures_in_astrophotography wrote:
As always your work is admirable. The stretched Gypsy looks really good,
how hard do you think it would be to put a mast and sail back on it? Out
of curiosity why didn't you go with Crystal?
HJ
adventures_in_astrophotography wrote:
> I've posted some new material on my website showing progress on two
> new boats. The new internet filters here at work won't let me get to
> the site to copy the links, so hopefully my memory is accurate.
>
> The first is my enlarged Windsprint, Flash. The side panels of the
> original were scaled up by 25% in both dimensions and the original
> molds were made into bulkheads. I still haven't made the spars, but
> she's ready otherwise.
> www.kolbsadventures.com/flash_1.htm
>
> Second is my stretched Gypsy, Scout, which is supposed to be a
> touring rowboat. It is a 25% lengthwise stretch of the original,
> with forward, after, and side decks added. The decking allowed
> elmination of the midships frame, which is replaced by two plywood
> knees to support the deck. I plan to take the dog, backpack, and
> fishing gear on some overnight trips this year, and possibly even do
> part of the Lower Columbia River Water Trail if I get out that way.
> www.kolbsadventures.com/scout_1.htm
>
> I know the navigation is crude, and there are few grammar and
> spelling errors, but let me know if you see anything glaring that
> ought to get fixed.
>
> Jon Kolb
> www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
>
>
>
>
Very nice, Jon. Particularly like the stretched Gypsy. My 30-footer,
which Bruce just did one of his excellent isometric series on, is
basically a Gypsy doubled in length and not quite doubled in width.
I've always wondered what one in between would look like. Boy, am I a
sucker for long, lean, low-sided boats. Of course, yours is for
rowing, but I wonder how it would sail . . .
Gary
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "adventures_in_astrophotography"
<jon@...> wrote:
which Bruce just did one of his excellent isometric series on, is
basically a Gypsy doubled in length and not quite doubled in width.
I've always wondered what one in between would look like. Boy, am I a
sucker for long, lean, low-sided boats. Of course, yours is for
rowing, but I wonder how it would sail . . .
Gary
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "adventures_in_astrophotography"
<jon@...> wrote:
>to
> I've posted some new material on my website showing progress on two
> new boats. The new internet filters here at work won't let me get
> the site to copy the links, so hopefully my memory is accurate.but
>
> The first is my enlarged Windsprint, Flash. The side panels of the
> original were scaled up by 25% in both dimensions and the original
> molds were made into bulkheads. I still haven't made the spars,
> she's ready otherwise.do
> www.kolbsadventures.com/flash_1.htm
>
> Second is my stretched Gypsy, Scout, which is supposed to be a
> touring rowboat. It is a 25% lengthwise stretch of the original,
> with forward, after, and side decks added. The decking allowed
> elmination of the midships frame, which is replaced by two plywood
> knees to support the deck. I plan to take the dog, backpack, and
> fishing gear on some overnight trips this year, and possibly even
> part of the Lower Columbia River Water Trail if I get out that way.
> www.kolbsadventures.com/scout_1.htm
>
> I know the navigation is crude, and there are few grammar and
> spelling errors, but let me know if you see anything glaring that
> ought to get fixed.
>
> Jon Kolb
> www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
>
Thanks, Jon. Looks great!
Eric
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "adventures_in_astrophotography"
<jon@...> wrote:
Eric
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "adventures_in_astrophotography"
<jon@...> wrote:
>
> I've posted some new material on my website showing progress on two
> new boats. The new internet filters here at work won't let me get to
> the site to copy the links, so hopefully my memory is accurate.
>
> The first is my enlarged Windsprint, Flash. The side panels of the
> original were scaled up by 25% in both dimensions and the original
> molds were made into bulkheads. I still haven't made the spars, but
> she's ready otherwise.
> www.kolbsadventures.com/flash_1.htm
>
> Second is my stretched Gypsy, Scout, which is supposed to be a
> touring rowboat. It is a 25% lengthwise stretch of the original,
> with forward, after, and side decks added. The decking allowed
> elmination of the midships frame, which is replaced by two plywood
> knees to support the deck. I plan to take the dog, backpack, and
> fishing gear on some overnight trips this year, and possibly even do
> part of the Lower Columbia River Water Trail if I get out that way.
> www.kolbsadventures.com/scout_1.htm
>
> I know the navigation is crude, and there are few grammar and
> spelling errors, but let me know if you see anything glaring that
> ought to get fixed.
>
> Jon Kolb
> www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
>
I've posted some new material on my website showing progress on two
new boats. The new internet filters here at work won't let me get to
the site to copy the links, so hopefully my memory is accurate.
The first is my enlarged Windsprint, Flash. The side panels of the
original were scaled up by 25% in both dimensions and the original
molds were made into bulkheads. I still haven't made the spars, but
she's ready otherwise.
www.kolbsadventures.com/flash_1.htm
Second is my stretched Gypsy, Scout, which is supposed to be a
touring rowboat. It is a 25% lengthwise stretch of the original,
with forward, after, and side decks added. The decking allowed
elmination of the midships frame, which is replaced by two plywood
knees to support the deck. I plan to take the dog, backpack, and
fishing gear on some overnight trips this year, and possibly even do
part of the Lower Columbia River Water Trail if I get out that way.
www.kolbsadventures.com/scout_1.htm
I know the navigation is crude, and there are few grammar and
spelling errors, but let me know if you see anything glaring that
ought to get fixed.
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
new boats. The new internet filters here at work won't let me get to
the site to copy the links, so hopefully my memory is accurate.
The first is my enlarged Windsprint, Flash. The side panels of the
original were scaled up by 25% in both dimensions and the original
molds were made into bulkheads. I still haven't made the spars, but
she's ready otherwise.
www.kolbsadventures.com/flash_1.htm
Second is my stretched Gypsy, Scout, which is supposed to be a
touring rowboat. It is a 25% lengthwise stretch of the original,
with forward, after, and side decks added. The decking allowed
elmination of the midships frame, which is replaced by two plywood
knees to support the deck. I plan to take the dog, backpack, and
fishing gear on some overnight trips this year, and possibly even do
part of the Lower Columbia River Water Trail if I get out that way.
www.kolbsadventures.com/scout_1.htm
I know the navigation is crude, and there are few grammar and
spelling errors, but let me know if you see anything glaring that
ought to get fixed.
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm