Re: Identify this Bolger Boat : Slight Correction
That is a nice looking design. I'm glad you saved it from the landfill. Good luck on completing the build.
Ralph
Ralph
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <gaff_rigged72@...> wrote:
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> If anyone is interested I've posted some medium res scans to my boat project website so you can get a better look at the design.
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>http://sites.google.com/site/gaffersunite/home/bolger-design-139
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> Just double click the thumbnail plans to see a larger version.
> Chris B
If anyone is interested I've posted some medium res scans to my boat project website so you can get a better look at the design.
http://sites.google.com/site/gaffersunite/home/bolger-design-139
Just double click the thumbnail plans to see a larger version.
Chris B
http://sites.google.com/site/gaffersunite/home/bolger-design-139
Just double click the thumbnail plans to see a larger version.
Chris B
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gaff_rigged72" <gaff_rigged72@...> wrote:
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> Well I need to make a small correction due to my occasionally faulty memory. This design is number 139-11-60, not 105 as I previously reported.
>
> The good news is that it hasn't been cut up, I've decided to take it on as my new project, so now the fun begins. I plan to build it to plan, including the gaff rigged main, so my email can finally be justified.
>
> Any thoughts on rigging as a cat yawl? The main thing I was thinking is that the yawl's mizzen is added to the sharpie types mainly to keep them bow to wind, and that the full keel design may not be in need of this to the same degree. Any opinions on this?
>
>
> Some basic Stats
> Design 139-11-60 - Full keel Double ended daysailor
> Length overall 23'0"
> Length Waterline 18'9"
> Beam 6'0"
> Draft 2'9"
> Displacement unknown (I'd estimate 2500 lbs)
> Ballast Casting 850 lbs lead
>
> Interestingly back in the fall of 2007, I posted an inquiry about birdwatcher material cost and as a result Bruce Hallman had me look at Summer Ease. This boat seems to fit the general purpose, and has almost identical dimensions, but has a rounded hull, canoe stern, and full keel. I do think my boat ( I like the sound of that ) may be a bit more pretty than that one, with the obvious volume loss.
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> I uploaded a few more pictures as it is now, plus small sized plan scans at the main bolger file server, under the folder design 139
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>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/files/Design%20139/
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> Chris Brunette
> Bedford, MA
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> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Brunette" <gaff_rigged72@> wrote:
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> >
> > I went to check it out on saturday, it is nice project boat, and the hull is solid. Needs a keel casting, and exterior fiberglass. There isn't anything other than the hull, though. Hull is strip built, edge nailed cedar and is glassed inside, but not out.
> >
> >
> > The design number is 105-11-60 if I'm remembering correctly. Charlie the present owner (also owner of a newfoundlander from BWaOM ) has had the hull twenty years after acquiring it from another builder.
> >
> > I'm very tempted, despite the fact that it's not big enough to live on or put on my car.
> > Chris
> > Bedford, ma
> >
>
Well I need to make a small correction due to my occasionally faulty memory. This design is number 139-11-60, not 105 as I previously reported.
The good news is that it hasn't been cut up, I've decided to take it on as my new project, so now the fun begins. I plan to build it to plan, including the gaff rigged main, so my email can finally be justified.
Any thoughts on rigging as a cat yawl? The main thing I was thinking is that the yawl's mizzen is added to the sharpie types mainly to keep them bow to wind, and that the full keel design may not be in need of this to the same degree. Any opinions on this?
Some basic Stats
Design 139-11-60 - Full keel Double ended daysailor
Length overall 23'0"
Length Waterline 18'9"
Beam 6'0"
Draft 2'9"
Displacement unknown (I'd estimate 2500 lbs)
Ballast Casting 850 lbs lead
Interestingly back in the fall of 2007, I posted an inquiry about birdwatcher material cost and as a result Bruce Hallman had me look at Summer Ease. This boat seems to fit the general purpose, and has almost identical dimensions, but has a rounded hull, canoe stern, and full keel. I do think my boat ( I like the sound of that ) may be a bit more pretty than that one, with the obvious volume loss.
I uploaded a few more pictures as it is now, plus small sized plan scans at the main bolger file server, under the folder design 139
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/files/Design%20139/
Chris Brunette
Bedford, MA
The good news is that it hasn't been cut up, I've decided to take it on as my new project, so now the fun begins. I plan to build it to plan, including the gaff rigged main, so my email can finally be justified.
Any thoughts on rigging as a cat yawl? The main thing I was thinking is that the yawl's mizzen is added to the sharpie types mainly to keep them bow to wind, and that the full keel design may not be in need of this to the same degree. Any opinions on this?
Some basic Stats
Design 139-11-60 - Full keel Double ended daysailor
Length overall 23'0"
Length Waterline 18'9"
Beam 6'0"
Draft 2'9"
Displacement unknown (I'd estimate 2500 lbs)
Ballast Casting 850 lbs lead
Interestingly back in the fall of 2007, I posted an inquiry about birdwatcher material cost and as a result Bruce Hallman had me look at Summer Ease. This boat seems to fit the general purpose, and has almost identical dimensions, but has a rounded hull, canoe stern, and full keel. I do think my boat ( I like the sound of that ) may be a bit more pretty than that one, with the obvious volume loss.
I uploaded a few more pictures as it is now, plus small sized plan scans at the main bolger file server, under the folder design 139
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/files/Design%20139/
Chris Brunette
Bedford, MA
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Brunette" <gaff_rigged72@...> wrote:
>
>
> I went to check it out on saturday, it is nice project boat, and the hull is solid. Needs a keel casting, and exterior fiberglass. There isn't anything other than the hull, though. Hull is strip built, edge nailed cedar and is glassed inside, but not out.
>
>
> The design number is 105-11-60 if I'm remembering correctly. Charlie the present owner (also owner of a newfoundlander from BWaOM ) has had the hull twenty years after acquiring it from another builder.
>
> I'm very tempted, despite the fact that it's not big enough to live on or put on my car.
> Chris
> Bedford, ma
>
> I went to check it out on saturday, it is nice project boat, and the hull is solid. Needs a keel casting, and exterior fiberglass. There isn't anything other than the hull, though. Hull is strip built, edge nailed cedar and is glassed inside, but not out.Thanks Chris for doing this reconnaissance work!
>
> The design number is 105-11-60 if I'm remembering correctly. Charlie the present owner (also owner of a newfoundlander from BWaOM ) has had the hull twenty years after acquiring it from another builder.
> Chris
> Bedford, ma
I went to check it out on saturday, it is nice project boat, and the hull is solid. Needs a keel casting, and exterior fiberglass. There isn't anything other than the hull, though. Hull is strip built, edge nailed cedar and is glassed inside, but not out.
The design number is 105-11-60 if I'm remembering correctly. Charlie the present owner (also owner of a newfoundlander from BWaOM ) has had the hull twenty years after acquiring it from another builder.
I'm very tempted, despite the fact that it's not big enough to live on or put on my car.
Chris
Bedford, ma
The design number is 105-11-60 if I'm remembering correctly. Charlie the present owner (also owner of a newfoundlander from BWaOM ) has had the hull twenty years after acquiring it from another builder.
I'm very tempted, despite the fact that it's not big enough to live on or put on my car.
Chris
Bedford, ma
> It does look like Wenda. Ref MAIB V18N11 but the MAIB article shows
> only photos of a boat and not any 'drawings' or lines.
>
> But not exactly enough for me to agree it is the same PCB design.
> Unfortunately the resolution of the pictures of the Craigslist
> advertisement are quite poor, so much guessing is needed. A big
> difference is the location of the rudder post. Also, I think, the
> extent of the ballasted flat keel. Not to mention the cat rig versus
> the yawl rig. I still think this is a new PB&F design to my eye.
>
> Here is a side view of a 'Wenda'
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>http://farm1.static.flickr.com/21/34593376_8b4109d926.jpg
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On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Justin M<jmeddock@...> wrote:
only photos of a boat and not any 'drawings' or lines.
But not exactly enough for me to agree it is the same PCB design.
Unfortunately the resolution of the pictures of the Craigslist
advertisement are quite poor, so much guessing is needed. A big
difference is the location of the rudder post. Also, I think, the
extent of the ballasted flat keel. Not to mention the cat rig versus
the yawl rig. I still think this is a new PB&F design to my eye.
Here is a side view of a 'Wenda'
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/21/34593376_8b4109d926.jpg
>It does look like Wenda. Ref MAIB V18N11 but the MAIB article shows
>
> It looks a lot like Canoe Yawl Wenda, only not a yawl and maybe a foot or so
> shorter. Wenda is an Albert Strange design redrawn by PCB.
> Woodenboat sells Wenda plans but doesn't show full profile on website. I'll
> look at my Wenda plans at home tonight to see if below WL shape is similar
> also.
>
> Justin Meddock
only photos of a boat and not any 'drawings' or lines.
But not exactly enough for me to agree it is the same PCB design.
Unfortunately the resolution of the pictures of the Craigslist
advertisement are quite poor, so much guessing is needed. A big
difference is the location of the rudder post. Also, I think, the
extent of the ballasted flat keel. Not to mention the cat rig versus
the yawl rig. I still think this is a new PB&F design to my eye.
Here is a side view of a 'Wenda'
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/21/34593376_8b4109d926.jpg
It looks a lot like Canoe Yawl Wenda, only not a yawl and maybe a foot or so shorter. Wenda is an Albert Strange design redrawn by PCB.
Woodenboat sells Wenda plans but doesn't show full profile on website. I'll look at my Wenda plans at home tonight to see if below WL shape is similar also.
Justin Meddock
Woodenboat sells Wenda plans but doesn't show full profile on website. I'll look at my Wenda plans at home tonight to see if below WL shape is similar also.
Justin Meddock
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
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> Hopefully someone will speak up as to which design that is. Judging
> from the drawing it is a full 'numbered' design. Is my memory failing
> to recall that design published anywhere?
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:31 AM,
> daschultz2000<daschultz8275@...> wrote:
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> > I forwarded the link to the wooden boat rescue foundation.
> >
> > They are based out that way. Someone is gonna get a nice project.
> >
> > Don
>
Hopefully someone will speak up as to which design that is. Judging
from the drawing it is a full 'numbered' design. Is my memory failing
to recall that design published anywhere?
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:31 AM,
daschultz2000<daschultz8275@...> wrote:
from the drawing it is a full 'numbered' design. Is my memory failing
to recall that design published anywhere?
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:31 AM,
daschultz2000<daschultz8275@...> wrote:
>
>
> I forwarded the link to the wooden boat rescue foundation.
>
> They are based out that way. Someone is gonna get a nice project.
>
> Don
I forwarded the link to the wooden boat rescue foundation.
They are based out that way. Someone is gonna get a nice project.
Don
They are based out that way. Someone is gonna get a nice project.
Don
That is a new boat to me.
Here are some isometrics...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hallman/3797335688/
It has similarities to Rosinante for sure, with small differences...
flat plate keel instead of hourglass, Rosinante was motorless, and
Rosinante had a clean (hatchless) cabin top.
Here are some isometrics...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hallman/3797335688/
It has similarities to Rosinante for sure, with small differences...
flat plate keel instead of hourglass, Rosinante was motorless, and
Rosinante had a clean (hatchless) cabin top.
It looks like an adaptation of Rozinante.
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/boa/1308949829.html
The guy is going to cut it up!
Ouch...
D. Jost
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/boa/1308949829.html
The guy is going to cut it up!
Ouch...
D. Jost