Re: [bolger] Re: Elegant Punt Question
Screwed in, no glue. You can pull it for repainting etc.
HJ
tlakin2002 wrote:
HJ
tlakin2002 wrote:
> i've another question on the EP, does the long bench seat go in permanently? or is to be built removable? anyone know? has anyone built the boat with typical dinghy/tender seating (mid, stern and bow seats with the bow seat doubling as a mast partner)?
>
> thanks,
> trevor
>
>
>
>
I made my longitudinal seat removable. It was held to a cleat on the
bow and stern with two screws. i also glued several layers of blue
house insulation sheet under the seat for floatation (though I never
needed it).
I would strongly advise to build this type of seat and install the
separate mast partner board. Using a seat in a lower position as a
mast partner could put the bracing too low.
The longitudinal seat is a stroke of genius. It's quite comfortable,
while allowing you to easily balance the boat in any loading condition
(I installed row locks at two positions, to compensate for when I was
solo, or when my wife and small kids were with me, tendering out to
our sailboat. I also had a row of three rowing cleats on the bottom
of the hull side interior, so I always had a place to brace my feet).
David
bow and stern with two screws. i also glued several layers of blue
house insulation sheet under the seat for floatation (though I never
needed it).
I would strongly advise to build this type of seat and install the
separate mast partner board. Using a seat in a lower position as a
mast partner could put the bracing too low.
The longitudinal seat is a stroke of genius. It's quite comfortable,
while allowing you to easily balance the boat in any loading condition
(I installed row locks at two positions, to compensate for when I was
solo, or when my wife and small kids were with me, tendering out to
our sailboat. I also had a row of three rowing cleats on the bottom
of the hull side interior, so I always had a place to brace my feet).
David
On Nov 18, 2009, at 12:12 PM, tlakin2002 wrote:
> i've another question on the EP, does the long bench seat go in
> permanently? or is to be built removable? anyone know? has anyone
> built the boat with typical dinghy/tender seating (mid, stern and
> bow seats with the bow seat doubling as a mast partner)?
>
> thanks,
> trevor
>
>
>
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i've another question on the EP, does the long bench seat go in permanently? or is to be built removable? anyone know? has anyone built the boat with typical dinghy/tender seating (mid, stern and bow seats with the bow seat doubling as a mast partner)?
thanks,
trevor
thanks,
trevor
Identical measurement from opposite corners front to back helps
ensure you're square.
ensure you're square.
On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:25 PM, tlakin2002 wrote:
> got the transoms and chines on this evening. starting by getting
> her upside down on saw horses. thanks for the info everyone. much
> appreciated. and thanks for the pic, HJ.
>
> that chine bending part was fun (being very sarcastic).
>
> trevor
>
got the transoms and chines on this evening. starting by getting her upside down on saw horses. thanks for the info everyone. much appreciated. and thanks for the pic, HJ.
that chine bending part was fun (being very sarcastic).
trevor
that chine bending part was fun (being very sarcastic).
trevor
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
>
> I have always built bottom up from the start, don't have to flip until
> interior work. I am going to send a pic off line.
>
> HJ
>
> tlakin2002 wrote:
> > I'm a little ways into an Elegant Punt build that I'm building from the book "Instant Boats". I've got the midship frame attached to the sides and I'm planning on attaching the transoms this evening. Anyone know if I flip the boat upside down before putting on the transoms on? Or do I flip it over after I put on the transoms and just before I put on the chine logs? I know it's got to go upside down and level to avoid building in a twist, I just don't know when.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Trevor
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
I have always built bottom up from the start, don't have to flip until
interior work. I am going to send a pic off line.
HJ
tlakin2002 wrote:
interior work. I am going to send a pic off line.
HJ
tlakin2002 wrote:
> I'm a little ways into an Elegant Punt build that I'm building from the book "Instant Boats". I've got the midship frame attached to the sides and I'm planning on attaching the transoms this evening. Anyone know if I flip the boat upside down before putting on the transoms on? Or do I flip it over after I put on the transoms and just before I put on the chine logs? I know it's got to go upside down and level to avoid building in a twist, I just don't know when.
>
> Thanks,
> Trevor
>
>
>
>
i'll likely go ahead and flip it over before the transoms are installed, then. that seems to be the consensus. i was going to just build it on the floor of my garage (where it currently sits), but i think i may drag out the sawhorses now, as well. i've got an old door that i may put across them to use as a big work table. i'll just have to make sure all is level.
thanks everyone,
trevor
thanks everyone,
trevor
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter" <pvanderwaart@...> wrote:
>
>
> > > Anyone know if I flip the boat upside down before putting on the
> > > transoms on?
>
> It's been a long time since I built mine, but I think I did it upside down from the beginning. I agree that it's entirely a matter of what seems best/easiest for you.
>
> > Anyone know if I flip the boat upside down before putting on theIt's been a long time since I built mine, but I think I did it upside down from the beginning. I agree that it's entirely a matter of what seems best/easiest for you.
> > transoms on?
My advice is that building upside down on saw horses can be a bit
easier, but it could be done either way with success. No matter what
technique you use, every so often, take a step back and take a
critical look for squareness, twist and just the overall "looks
right". Sometimes when I do this I close one eye and move my head
around aligning my eye of sight horizontally down the shear line,
etc., comparing the alignments of the various pieces.
In the end, actually, boats are defined "as boats" depending on what
people agree "looks like a boat". So, looking at the boat in progress
is important, and can catch the 'twist' errors early while they can
still be easily corrected. Also, even if the boat has a built-in
twist, it can still function nicely as a useful boat. The water
flowing by the hull doesn't really care much about twist.
easier, but it could be done either way with success. No matter what
technique you use, every so often, take a step back and take a
critical look for squareness, twist and just the overall "looks
right". Sometimes when I do this I close one eye and move my head
around aligning my eye of sight horizontally down the shear line,
etc., comparing the alignments of the various pieces.
In the end, actually, boats are defined "as boats" depending on what
people agree "looks like a boat". So, looking at the boat in progress
is important, and can catch the 'twist' errors early while they can
still be easily corrected. Also, even if the boat has a built-in
twist, it can still function nicely as a useful boat. The water
flowing by the hull doesn't really care much about twist.
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:01 AM, tlakin2002 <tlakin2002@...> wrote:
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>
>
> thanks for the reply. the book isn't real specific on the EP build process. i guess it's pretty straightforward for someone that halfway knows what they are doing. i don't happen to be one of those people, so i appreciate the comment.
>
> trev
>
thanks for the reply. the book isn't real specific on the EP build process. i guess it's pretty straightforward for someone that halfway knows what they are doing. i don't happen to be one of those people, so i appreciate the comment.
trev
trev
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, David Cassidy <d.cassidy@...> wrote:
>
> I built mine on a set of sawhorses, and I think I started with
> everything right-side up until I flipped it to install the chines and
> the bottom.
>
> As long as you are careful to make sure everything is square when you
> install the bottom, I don;t think it really matters which way you do
> it -- do what seems easiest for you.
>
> David
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2009, at 9:27 AM, tlakin2002 wrote:
>
> > I'm a little ways into an Elegant Punt build that I'm building from
> > the book "Instant Boats". I've got the midship frame attached to the
> > sides and I'm planning on attaching the transoms this evening.
> > Anyone know if I flip the boat upside down before putting on the
> > transoms on? Or do I flip it over after I put on the transoms and
> > just before I put on the chine logs? I know it's got to go upside
> > down and level to avoid building in a twist, I just don't know when.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Trevor
> >
> >
> >
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I built mine on a set of sawhorses, and I think I started with
everything right-side up until I flipped it to install the chines and
the bottom.
As long as you are careful to make sure everything is square when you
install the bottom, I don;t think it really matters which way you do
it -- do what seems easiest for you.
David
everything right-side up until I flipped it to install the chines and
the bottom.
As long as you are careful to make sure everything is square when you
install the bottom, I don;t think it really matters which way you do
it -- do what seems easiest for you.
David
On Nov 12, 2009, at 9:27 AM, tlakin2002 wrote:
> I'm a little ways into an Elegant Punt build that I'm building from
> the book "Instant Boats". I've got the midship frame attached to the
> sides and I'm planning on attaching the transoms this evening.
> Anyone know if I flip the boat upside down before putting on the
> transoms on? Or do I flip it over after I put on the transoms and
> just before I put on the chine logs? I know it's got to go upside
> down and level to avoid building in a twist, I just don't know when.
>
> Thanks,
> Trevor
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, respamming, or flogging
> dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred'
> posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930,
> Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
I'm a little ways into an Elegant Punt build that I'm building from the book "Instant Boats". I've got the midship frame attached to the sides and I'm planning on attaching the transoms this evening. Anyone know if I flip the boat upside down before putting on the transoms on? Or do I flip it over after I put on the transoms and just before I put on the chine logs? I know it's got to go upside down and level to avoid building in a twist, I just don't know when.
Thanks,
Trevor
Thanks,
Trevor