Re: Bobcat material list
Hi all,
thank you very mutch for your nice answers, espacialy Jay for your precious remarks!
I will keep you informed about building process and send some pictures.
George
thank you very mutch for your nice answers, espacialy Jay for your precious remarks!
I will keep you informed about building process and send some pictures.
George
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Jay Bazuzi <jay@...> wrote:
>
> As a Bobcat owner (but not builder, I'm afraid), I'll offer some lessons
> from my experience.
>
> The most annoying aspects of my boat are the places the owner deviated from
> the plans. Like replacing the main sheet cleat with a rotating cam cleat.
>
> The original plans don't include deck cleats, other than one at the bow.
> Nowhere to hang fenders. Nowhere to tie mooring lines. I think it needs at
> least one deck cleat all the way aft (both sides) and one at the widest
> point.
>
> The original plans lack details for the centerboard. Just as I finished
> building a new centerboard, I found a detail diagram on the internet. Let me
> know if you need help finding it.
>
> The boat lacks secondary propulsion: it won't row, and there's no good place
> to put a motor. I intend to add a sculling oar; maybe that will work well.
>
> The bilge is hard to drain thoroughly. I've thought about adding drain
> plugs. There'd need to be 2 and that wouldn't be enough to keep the bilge
> completely empty in the rain.
>
> A friend who is building a Bobcat made his mast with 8 1x1 strips, with a V
> cut in one side. It looked like a better approach than the one in Dynamite's
> book.
>
> On mine, where the mast rubs on the mast step is a trouble spot. The finish
> on the mast comes off. The wood gets a little beat up and wants to split.
> Not sure what to do with that.
>
> On mine, where the mast rubs on the deck partner picks up a lot of paint
> from the deck (my mast is varnished). A bit of leather there would be a good
> idea.
>
> It's too heavy for one person to pick up. Two strong people can do it, in a
> pinch. Better 3 or 4. But there aren't a lot of good handholds, either.
>
> I actually love this boat, so don't get me wrong.
>
> -J
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Bruce Hallman <hallman@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > That is exciting! You might also want to cut up ten pieces of thin
> > cardboard into 8 inch by 4 inch pieces and then using a scissors and
> > tape, make a quick and dirty boat model. That way you can work out in
> > your mind the efficient way to layout and sequence the cuts.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:32 PM, snorre_2000 <snorre_2000@...<snorre_2000%40yahoo.de>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > as I have ordered the plans for the Bobcat this week can someone provide
> > me the material list for that boat to start calculating.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot!
> > >
> > > George
> >
> >
> >
>
I have the plans and the book, can you point me to the detail of the center board? I doubt i build this anytime soon but I'd like to have the info. I need to get my feet wet on something a bit more difficult than the one shee skiff that i built. thanks troy --- OnFri, 2/19/10, Jay Bazuzi<jay@...>wrote:
|
As a Bobcat owner (but not builder, I'm afraid), I'll offer some lessons from my experience.
The most annoying aspects of my boat are the places the owner deviated from the plans. Like replacing the main sheet cleat with a rotating cam cleat.
The original plans don't include deck cleats, other than one at the bow. Nowhere to hang fenders. Nowhere to tie mooring lines. I think it needs at least one deck cleat all the way aft (both sides) and one at the widest point.
The original plans lack details for the centerboard. Just as I finished building a new centerboard, I found a detail diagram on the internet. Let me know if you need help finding it.
The boat lacks secondary propulsion: it won't row, and there's no good place to put a motor. I intend to add a sculling oar; maybe that will work well.
The bilge is hard to drain thoroughly. I've thought about adding drain plugs. There'd need to be 2 and that wouldn't be enough to keep the bilge completely empty in the rain.
A friend who is building a Bobcat made his mast with 8 1x1 strips, with a V cut in one side. It looked like a better approach than the one in Dynamite's book.
On mine, where the mast rubs on the mast step is a trouble spot. The finish on the mast comes off. The wood gets a little beat up and wants to split. Not sure what to do with that.
On mine, where the mast rubs on the deck partner picks up a lot of paint from the deck (my mast is varnished). A bit of leather there would be a good idea.
It's too heavy for one person to pick up. Two strong people can do it, in a pinch. Better 3 or 4. But there aren't a lot of good handholds, either.
I actually love this boat, so don't get me wrong.
-J
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Bruce Hallman<hallman@...>wrote:That is exciting! You might also want to cut up ten pieces of thin
cardboard into 8 inch by 4 inch pieces and then using a scissors and
tape, make a quick and dirty boat model. That way you can work out in
your mind the efficient way to layout and sequence the cuts.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:32 PM, snorre_2000 <snorre_2000@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> as I have ordered the plans for the Bobcat this week can someone provide me the material list for that boat to start calculating.
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> George
That is exciting! You might also want to cut up ten pieces of thin
cardboard into 8 inch by 4 inch pieces and then using a scissors and
tape, make a quick and dirty boat model. That way you can work out in
your mind the efficient way to layout and sequence the cuts.
cardboard into 8 inch by 4 inch pieces and then using a scissors and
tape, make a quick and dirty boat model. That way you can work out in
your mind the efficient way to layout and sequence the cuts.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:32 PM, snorre_2000 <snorre_2000@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> as I have ordered the plans for the Bobcat this week can someone provide me the material list for that boat to start calculating.
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> George
Corrected for silly errors:
Briefly, it requires 10 sheets of 1/4"plywood, plus some scraps of 1/4" and 1/2", 20 board feet of 3/4"squarefor framing and gunwales, etc, and a lot (haven't calculated how much) 11/2"wideclearest available spruce, fir, or pine for the mast and spars.
Briefly, it requires 10 sheets of 1/4"plywood, plus some scraps of 1/4" and 1/2", 20 board feet of 3/4"squarefor framing and gunwales, etc, and a lot (haven't calculated how much) 11/2"wideclearest available spruce, fir, or pine for the mast and spars.
On 18/02/2010 10:34, Dan Burrill wrote:If you don't already have a copy, get hold of H.H. Payson's Build the Instant Catboat - there's a fairly comprehensive bill of materials on page 3. I'd type it out but I'm short of time and currently dealing with a torn rotator cuff (sadly not a boating/boatbuildin g injury - I managed to partially dislocate my shoulder whilst asleep). Briefly, it requires 10 sheets of 1/4", plus some scraps of 1/4" and 1/2", 20 board feet of 3/4" for framing and gunwales, etc, and a lot (haven't calculated how much) 11/2" clearest available spruce, fir, or pine for the mast and spars.
Hope that's of some help
Dan
On 18/02/2010 07:32, snorre_2000 wrote:Hi everyone,
as I have ordered the plans for the Bobcat this week can someone provide me the material list for that boat to start calculating.
Thanks a lot!
George
If you don't already have a copy, get hold of H.H. Payson's Build the
Instant Catboat - there's a fairly comprehensive bill of materials on
page 3. I'd type it out but I'm short of time and currently dealing
with a torn rotator cuff (sadly not a boating/boatbuilding injury - I
managed to partially dislocate my shoulder whilst asleep). Briefly, it
requires 10 sheets of 1/4", plus some scraps of 1/4" and 1/2", 20 board
feet of 3/4" for framing and gunwales, etc, and a lot (haven't
calculated how much) 11/2" clearest available spruce, fir, or pine for
the mast and spars.
Hope that's of some help
Dan
Hope that's of some help
Dan
On 18/02/2010 07:32, snorre_2000 wrote:Hi everyone,
as I have ordered the plans for the Bobcat this week can someone provide me the material list for that boat to start calculating.
Thanks a lot!
George
Hi everyone,
as I have ordered the plans for the Bobcat this week can someone provide me the material list for that boat to start calculating.
Thanks a lot!
George
as I have ordered the plans for the Bobcat this week can someone provide me the material list for that boat to start calculating.
Thanks a lot!
George